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SoLeftIAmRight

(4,883 posts)
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 12:03 PM Feb 2016

Poll - Clinton - Sanders - Greatest Threat

Last edited Wed Feb 10, 2016, 03:54 AM - Edit history (1)


"We have to look at ISIS as the leading threat of an international network. It cannot be contained--it must be defeated," she said, in a seeming rhetorical break from President Obama.


Sanders also defended a comment made at the last debate, when he called climate change the greatest threat facing the world. "Climate change is directly related to the rise of terrorism," he said.


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I support Clinton and I think ISIS is the greatest threat.
0 (0%)
I support Clinton and I think protecting the environment is the number one issue.
0 (0%)
I support Sanders and I think ISIS is the Greatest threat.
0 (0%)
I support Sanders and I think protecting the environment is the number one issue.
26 (79%)
I do not like this poll.
7 (21%)
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Poll - Clinton - Sanders - Greatest Threat (Original Post) SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2016 OP
How many Clinton supporters support her position? SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2016 #1
One SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2016 #2
two SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2016 #6
three SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2016 #18
three SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2016 #39
three SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2016 #40
You can't prop up the military industrial complex by being tough on climate change. Motown_Johnny Feb 2016 #3
I think that individuals who BlueMTexpat Feb 2016 #4
What did Clinton say when asked what is the greatest threat we face? SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2016 #8
The question was posed this way kristopher Feb 2016 #23
Different Debate SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2016 #24
Then you need to quote it - I can't find it. kristopher Feb 2016 #27
I am not confused SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2016 #28
It could be they don't care, but it might be an artifact of the poll itself kristopher Feb 2016 #38
Sanders answered this quite well. trillion Feb 2016 #46
So you don't know Sander's #1 priority? kristopher Feb 2016 #5
you are so silly SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2016 #7
Restoring democracy because the lack of democracy is root of all other "threats". kristopher Feb 2016 #9
So you do not support Clinton's position? SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2016 #11
I have no idea what you are making cryptograms about. kristopher Feb 2016 #14
BTW, I'm pretty sure his answer wasn't ISIS, it was N. Korea. kristopher Feb 2016 #12
you must have missed that debate SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2016 #13
Nope. He said N. Korea was greatest concern. He just acknowledged ISIS as threat. kristopher Feb 2016 #16
Reporting kristopher Feb 2016 #19
it was the debate before that one SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2016 #20
might have been at the town hall SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2016 #21
zero Clinton supporters think the environment is the greatest threat SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2016 #10
Zero SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2016 #22
ZERO - really SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2016 #41
My number one has been environment artislife Feb 2016 #15
Very few Clinton supporters support her position. SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2016 #17
Do any Hillary supporters think that environmental issues should be ... SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2016 #25
I support Sanders EdwardBernays Feb 2016 #26
Air - Water - Food SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2016 #30
I voted "Do not like" firebrand80 Feb 2016 #29
During one of the debates - Question - What is the greatest threat SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2016 #31
My point is that they're both correct IMO firebrand80 Feb 2016 #32
My position - SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2016 #33
The problem with all that military spending firebrand80 Feb 2016 #34
I've knocked out six canvass packets today... You? Agschmid Feb 2016 #35
good work SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2016 #36
I took the day off, lots of work to be done. Agschmid Feb 2016 #37
Unless ISIS gets a moon base Warren DeMontague Feb 2016 #42
Calling all Hillary supporters ... SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2016 #43
Kick! Kelvin Mace Feb 2016 #44
Thanks SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2016 #45
Kick trillion Feb 2016 #47
k&r nt bananas Feb 2016 #48

BlueMTexpat

(15,388 posts)
4. I think that individuals who
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 12:14 PM
Feb 2016

design polls like this might unwittingly be a greater threat than any of the options provided.

kristopher

(29,798 posts)
23. The question was posed this way
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 12:47 PM
Feb 2016
TODD: Alright, as Commander in Chief, Senator Sanders, you've got to prioritize potential threats to the United States. Three countries, North Korea, Iran, Russia. How would you rank them in order of their threat to America's security right now...

SANDERS: ... ISIS...

TODD: ... Starting with the biggest threat.

SANDERS: ISIS, you forgot one...

TODD: ... I didn't say that...

SANDERS: ... No, no...

TODD: ... No...

SANDERS: ... ISIS would be ...

TODD: ... We already had that. I'm talking about these three countries. How would you orient our national security, our national defense posture.

SANDERS: Clearly North Korea is a very strange situation because it is such an isolated country run by a handful of dictators, or maybe just one, who seems to be somewhat paranoid. And, who had nuclear weapons.

And, our goal there, in my view, is to work and lean strongly on China to put as much pressure. China is one of the few major countries in the world that has significant support for North Korea, and I think we got to do everything we can to put pressure on China. I worry very much about an isolated, paranoid country with atomic bombs.

I think, clearly, we got to work closely with China to resolve the serious problems we have, and I worry about Putin and his military adventurism in the Crimea and the Ukraine.

TODD: Secretary of Defense Ash Carter this week picked one of those three, and he has said Russia is, basically, the most important national security threat. Sort of reorienting the defense and the challenges to that. Do you agree with his decisions...

SANDERS: ... No, I don't. I worry very, very much about an isolated country. That's what makes me nervous. Russia lives in the world. China lives in the world. North Korea is a very, very strange country because it is so isolated, and I do feel that a nation with nuclear weapons, they have got to be dealt with. Dealt with effectively.
http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/transcript-msnbc-democratic-candidates-debate-n511036

Clinton agreed with Ash Carter. I agree with Sanders.
 

SoLeftIAmRight

(4,883 posts)
24. Different Debate
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 12:55 PM
Feb 2016

It was an open question - no choices given

You are talking about a "clean up" question at a later event - Hillary given a pass and Sanders was not given the opportunity to voice his position on the "greatest real threat"

kristopher

(29,798 posts)
27. Then you need to quote it - I can't find it.
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 12:59 PM
Feb 2016

CNN's debate with Webb, Chafee et al touched on it, but that seems far less of a considered answer than the MSNBC debate to me.
If you want to refer to that one, it would probably prevent confusion if you gave better references for the questions.

 

SoLeftIAmRight

(4,883 posts)
28. I am not confused
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 01:02 PM
Feb 2016

sorry you are

What do you think about the fact that there are not votes for the environment amoung the Hillary voters?

kristopher

(29,798 posts)
16. Nope. He said N. Korea was greatest concern. He just acknowledged ISIS as threat.
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 12:29 PM
Feb 2016

N. Korea is unstable and has nuclear weapons.

kristopher

(29,798 posts)
19. Reporting
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 12:39 PM
Feb 2016
Sanders also called for a “political revolution,” that Americans need to stand up and fight back.

When the debate steered to foreign policy, Sanders said North Korea poses the greatest threat to the U.S.

“Clearly North Korea is a very strange situation because it is such an isolated country,” he said. “North Korea is ran by handful or dictators or maybe just one.”


http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2016/02/04/clinton-sanders-debate/

But I do see the ambiguity of the back and forth in the debate. It gives a reasonable basis for what you say.
 

SoLeftIAmRight

(4,883 posts)
10. zero Clinton supporters think the environment is the greatest threat
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 12:25 PM
Feb 2016

zero and 2 support her position

very sad

 

artislife

(9,497 posts)
15. My number one has been environment
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 12:29 PM
Feb 2016

And that has been my concern for years.

I live in a beautiful part of the country but it is dying. When I think about moving to other parts of the country, I think about their water supply and if it is viable or clean. I don't think there is a lot of choice out there.

 

SoLeftIAmRight

(4,883 posts)
30. Air - Water - Food
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 01:07 PM
Feb 2016

Housing - Healthcare - Education - Energy - Transportation

Relations - with self - others - and between all entities

firebrand80

(2,760 posts)
29. I voted "Do not like"
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 01:06 PM
Feb 2016

I understand it's hard to distill issues down into a poll, but both these terms are far too vague. To me, "environment" encompasses everything from carbon pollution to infrastructure spending. "ISIS" is simply one aspect of a larger, and very complex problem.

Environmental issues affect my day-to-day life far more than ISIS. On the other hand, if a terrorist detonates a nuclear device within our borders or takes down a significant portion of our electrical grid for an extended period of time, a lot of other problems will start to look very small, very quickly.

 

SoLeftIAmRight

(4,883 posts)
31. During one of the debates - Question - What is the greatest threat
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 01:11 PM
Feb 2016

Open question

Hillary - ISIS

Sanders - Climate change

sorry - just want to see who agrees with their candidates stated position

 

SoLeftIAmRight

(4,883 posts)
33. My position -
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 01:22 PM
Feb 2016

$1,000,000,000,000 every year - military industrial complex - the national security monster

we got ISIS covered

Not a single waterway in New Jersey where it is safe for a pregnant woman to eat the fish

Environment - not so much

firebrand80

(2,760 posts)
34. The problem with all that military spending
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 01:28 PM
Feb 2016

Is that it's very useful in dissuading any conventional military from challenging us, but it's capacity to fight small, decentralized terrorist groups is limited. So we can't really point to military spending and assume that we've got terrorism covered.

I'm not saying I necessarily disagree with your position, like I said, it depends on how you look at it. Environmental issues affect people's lives on a more day-to-day basis. Terrorism is one of those things that we don't really thing about until it happens. There are probably many terrorist attacks that are prevented that we can never hear about, but would send chills up your spine if you knew the details.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
42. Unless ISIS gets a moon base
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 04:41 AM
Feb 2016

the entire argument is moot if we don't have a planet on which to fight over whose invisible friend in the sky is better.

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