2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumHillary has been pushed to sound progressive, but if she wins she'll go back to the same old DLC/
Third Way corporatism, that's just the way things work with the Wall Street side of the party they pretend to care about the people until elected.
After she's elected she will bring in all of the lobbyists and Wall Street power players in order to help transition into office continuing the corporate dominance on this nation.
djean111
(14,255 posts)Not Hilary's words, your words.
JRLeft
(7,010 posts)TTUBatfan2008
(3,623 posts)The lobbyists are already part of her campaign. Her campaign manager is a lobbyist with a lobbyist brother and lobbyist ex-sister in law.
JRLeft
(7,010 posts)John Podesta's position in her campaign is pretty good indicator of what to expect with a Clinton administration.
farleftlib
(2,125 posts)She claimed to be a proud centrist when it was politically advantageous and now she claims to be a progressive. But when the rubber hits the road, she reliably serves her corporate masters to the detriment of the voters.
JRLeft
(7,010 posts)NorthCarolina
(11,197 posts)YOU HAVE TO BELIEVE.
JRLeft
(7,010 posts)Fuddnik
(8,846 posts)She sounded like she was running against herself.
She was a complete 180 degrees from where she was a month ago. I don't believe a word she says.
JRLeft
(7,010 posts)dchill
(42,660 posts)Just like Obama did.
RiverLover
(7,830 posts)It would seem many people are falling for it.
Tragically.
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/campaign-2016-hillary-clintons-fake-populism-is-a-hit-20150416
potone
(1,701 posts)I am a Bernie supporter, but I don't think that Hillary is evil. She has supported progressive causes in the past. I do believe that politicians with good intentions end up backing bad policies because they are pressured by special interests groups that will try to destroy any politician who defies them. This is what needs to change, and it is hard to see how it can as long as Citizens United and associated SCOTUS decisions remain the law of the land.
JRLeft
(7,010 posts)mikehiggins
(5,614 posts)HRC cannot be trusted to even make the attempt to fight for the possibility of maybe, possibly, taking even the first steps towards implementing a progressive agenda.
She's already pointing out she would appoint Wall Street insiders to her cabinet. She needs, after all, people who know how the system works.
That'd be like Teddy Roosevelt appointing Rockefeller to his cabinet, except HRC is no TR.
RoccoR5955
(12,471 posts)her definition of, "being progressive and getting things done."
What she means by this is that she dresses in a white smock with the word "Progressive" in blue on it and gets done selling insurance to you while wearing bright red lipstick!
Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)bowens43
(16,064 posts)TCJ70
(4,387 posts)...stuff. Why would I believe anyone that needs to be pulled to my viewpoints would stay there? Especially when they should have been there all along?
JRLeft
(7,010 posts)Skwmom
(12,685 posts)Bread and Circus
(9,454 posts)Rosa Luxemburg
(28,627 posts)moondust
(21,286 posts)KansDem
(28,498 posts)"More Of The Same"
Red Knight
(704 posts)You can bet she'd tone down the progressive talk so that later she doesn't have to swim back so hard to the center for the general election. We don't have to argue about this--we'll see if it happens if she wins. And yet--progressives who vote for her would accept that as, "politics'.
Somehow if Bernie won I don't see him drifting toward the center. I see him staying true to his beliefs. Whatever happens, happens.
But Bernie is who he is.
Is Hillary that centrist? Or progressive?
How would she really govern?