2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumJust heard a political analyst say that Clinton must have some bad internal
polling. This was on my local Vermont station. The comment or is Dr. Garrison Nelson, Professor of American Governnent, Politics and Political Behavior at UVM, as well as being the most prominent political analyst in Vermont.
Dr. Nelson said that he couldn't see any other explanation for the panicked behavior of the campaign, and in particular Bill's fevered attacks on Bernie.
Professor Nelson teaches courses in American government, political leadership and political parties.
He is the author of more than 150 articles and professional papers on national politics with a major focus on the U.S. Congress and elections in Vermont and is a regular media commentator on those topics. He is the author of Pathways to the U.S. Supreme Court: From the Arena to the Monastery (Palgrave Macmillan, 2013) and co-author of The Austin-Boston Connection: Five Decades of House Democratic Leadership, 1937-1989 (Texas A&M University, 2009).
https://www.uvm.edu/~polisci/?Page=GarrisonNelson.php
asuhornets
(2,405 posts)After NH, it's over for Sanders.
cali
(114,904 posts)asuhornets
(2,405 posts)No one is telling him to get out. After, he wins NH, he will enter the phase in the race which is uncharted territory for him. Do u think he is up for it?
pangaia
(24,324 posts)2- The entire campaign has been uncharted territory for
Bernie.
3- Hillary Clinton is toast. The toaster just hasn't popped up yet.
Xipe Totec
(43,889 posts)asuhornets
(2,405 posts)will he be ready for uncharted territory? I think not.
Punkingal
(9,522 posts)PonyUp
(1,680 posts)asuhornets
(2,405 posts)may go head to head for state.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)Joe the Revelator
(14,915 posts)If he wins tonight, the road starts to get rough for Hill.
asuhornets
(2,405 posts)of him winning the nomination.
Joe the Revelator
(14,915 posts)That is what is already underway w. team Hill.
bvar22
(39,909 posts)nor do you remember 2008.
I do, and your claims have no foundation.
asuhornets
(2,405 posts)Bernie is no Obama. Obama was able to bring whites,blacks, Latinos, and Asian together. Bernie will have to become a whole new person(personality) in order to do that.
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)She's repeating 2008 expecting a different result. Obama, Sanders, it doesn't matter because her biggest opponant is herself.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)or was it a cup of tea or perhaps you were scrolling?
asuhornets
(2,405 posts)more diverse states where some don't even know who he is.
Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)no way anyone in those red states figure out who Bernie is, nope no way at all.
asuhornets
(2,405 posts)earthshine
(1,642 posts)or do you just save it for us?
asuhornets
(2,405 posts)Just because I am giving you my perspective I'm being nasty.
TheBlackAdder
(28,182 posts).
I knew this was going to happen 6 weeks ago, and didn't believe it when I was told at first.
Most of ME, RI, and Middle/Western MA are hurting. VT is a given.
CT is having problems, but NYC keeps them afloat, but that is crumbling.
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PyaarRevolution
(814 posts)A headline towards the Financial Times along with a caller mentioned some rate or measure that heralds a coming recession. Definitely creeped Thom out.
Someone will have to flesh it out who watched Thom's show as I'm trying to remember it.
Jarqui
(10,122 posts)It is a sign the Clinton campaign knows it's in trouble.
For them, it may be a bit of a shock, because their internal polling in Iowa told them they were going to cruise to a +5 victory. They probably fixed their polling model and suddenly saw what was happening. Panic set in.
Tonight, the Clintons also know Bernie is going to get heavy, good quality mainstream media coverage - and that will help him in the upcoming states to tighten the polls.
The key questions would be "will it help him significantly?" "Does the momentum break down Clinton's firewall with minorities?" Like a bunch around here think, there's a good chance the answer to both those questions is yes. Bill Clinton knows it too.
TheBlackAdder
(28,182 posts)Jarqui
(10,122 posts)cali
(114,904 posts)temporary311
(955 posts)It probably hasn't looked good since some time before Iowa. You don't do what her campaign has been doing if her polls reflected many of the public polls from back then.