just heard a 'fact'...Hillary has never gone UP in the polls in any race...

[islandmkl]

and then Matthews came on and started making points that I couldn't follow because I didn't have a slide-rule, compass, and ever-sharp pencil...

thankfully, they cut to some kind of update that shut him off...

[Bjornsdotter]

1. I heard that

Lawrence O'Donnell was very interesting, lots of information....I wish I had recorded it.

[roguevalley]

18. what she had she ended with. she has never increased her polls in any race

she's been in. This means whatever she has, that's it. Bernie will only go up and frankly, unless she can attract new voters each time, she has a ceiling.

[JeffHead]

2. And you wonder why they are getting desperate. nt

[Lucinda]

3. That's most likely because she is usually the front runner

The numbers always shift as the race goes on.

[Gorgatron]

6. That's what I was thinking, and the name recognition being a factor in that

[Lucinda]

7. Yep. Kind of a given...but it makes for an interesting soundbite I guess!

[Gorgatron]

4. Yeah that was interesting to hear. I don't know exactly what to make of it tho

[ucrdem]

5. She goes up and down like a punching bag.

And for much the same reasons.

p.s. case in point: Iowa 2016. She was up, she was down, she was up, she was down, and then she won in a photo finish. And that's always been the Clinton way.

[HooptieWagon]

8. Her support is a mile wide, but an inch deep.

Once voters realize there's a viable option, Hillary's support drains.

[Glamrock]

15. B.I.N.G.O.

Dead on, imho.

[islandmkl]

9. for the late-night math-challenged:

you had 70...

then you had 60...

then you had 50...

then you had 40...

see how it works?

she may come back up, but she has never, NEVER come back to where she fell from...and when you don't get back to 50...well, hope for a coin toss

[Gorgatron]

14. Lol nicely put, that punch line

[jfern]

10. She did much better than she polled in NH 8 years ago

But tonight she's doing worse than the polling average.

[islandmkl]

12. didn't she win NH in 2008?

[jfern]

13. Yup, and the polls all had Obama up

[HooptieWagon]

16. I think there were more candidates in 08

[NightWatcher]

11. Well...

[dsc]

17. except the fact, isn't a fact

She went up in her race for Senate. By one measure by 4 by another by 10 (depending if you take her high point before she started any effort toward her race, or count her announcement date. In either case, she went up, not down.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Senate_election_in_New_York,_2000

[MisterP]

19. Sanders supporters don't "go back"