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Tue Feb 9, 2016, 11:56 PM

When You Ask Me To Vote For Hillary

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robyn-morton/when-you-ask-me-to-vote-for-hillary_b_9197254.html

I'm going to set aside all of the standard issues I might have with Hillary Clinton. This isn't about policies with which I disagree, or the fact that she's never met a war she didn't like, or that she has turned her back on her own policy goals for the sake of political expediency, or that I have the real sense she sold me out three times today before I even got out of bed.

Push all of those issues off to the side and focus on the ask  -- what are you asking me to do when you ask me to vote for her in the primaries over Bernie Sanders?

You are asking me to consciously give up on any hope I may have of living a sane life in our country. To vote for her in the primaries, I would need to believe that the establishment on both the right and the left have so thoroughly strangled the political system that it is no longer "reasonable" to even try for reform. I have to be so scared of political opponents gaining power that it is worth it to sacrifice even the hope of being able to get ahead, have a savings cushion, access healthcare, send our kids to college, retire, or just not feel like we're constantly living on a knife's edge, all because of fear of a potential future.

If this doesn't make sense to you  -- if you think it is reasonable to fear the opposition more than to hope for having a better life  --  then I'm guessing you live a fairly comfortable life and don't feel strong motivation to change it.

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Reply When You Ask Me To Vote For Hillary (Original post)
Ferd Berfel Feb 2016 OP
onecaliberal Feb 2016 #1
Ferd Berfel Feb 2016 #2
onecaliberal Feb 2016 #3
Kelvin Mace Feb 2016 #4
Glamrock Feb 2016 #5
Ferd Berfel Feb 2016 #6
Glamrock Feb 2016 #8
Ferd Berfel Feb 2016 #10
roguevalley Feb 2016 #7
kerry-is-my-prez Feb 2016 #9

Response to Ferd Berfel (Original post)

Tue Feb 9, 2016, 11:59 PM

1. Thank you for such a fantastic articulation of how I feel.

You get a heart for that.

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Response to onecaliberal (Reply #1)

Wed Feb 10, 2016, 12:01 AM

2. Thank you

just to be clear - I didn't write this article. I just though it was excellent and wanted to share

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Response to Ferd Berfel (Reply #2)

Wed Feb 10, 2016, 12:01 AM

3. Works for me. Thanks for the share!

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Response to Ferd Berfel (Original post)

Wed Feb 10, 2016, 12:03 AM

4. Fear is the product

 

and I don't frighten.

I also don't vote for people who consider Henry Kissenger a friend and role model.

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Response to Ferd Berfel (Original post)

Wed Feb 10, 2016, 12:08 AM

5. If I might jump in here for a moment

I'm in full agreement with y'all. My only caveat is that, should she win the popular vote for the nomination, I'll support her. The Supreme Court ain't something to fuck around with...

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Response to Glamrock (Reply #5)

Wed Feb 10, 2016, 12:11 AM

6. The DNC, so far, isn't planning on supporting Bernie

in fact they keep floating Kerry, Biden, now Bloomberg - basically anybody but Bernie
None of their alternatives has a chance but they are miking noises

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Response to Ferd Berfel (Reply #6)

Wed Feb 10, 2016, 12:19 AM

8. I know man, I know

That's why I used the qualifier "popular vote". If Bernie wins and Hillary gets the nom, it's over. The WH, Supreme Court picks, and the Democratic party. I'm hoping we don't have shenanigans at our convention. I'd like to focus on the shenanigans at theirs. (I don't believe the GOP will allow a Trump nomination. I further believe Trump will run 3rd party if that comes to pass.) Should be highly entertaining!

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Response to Glamrock (Reply #8)

Wed Feb 10, 2016, 07:20 PM

10. Ya kjnow, I dont' trust Hillary to put LIberals on SCOTUS.

I think she'll fuck that up too

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Response to Ferd Berfel (Original post)

Wed Feb 10, 2016, 12:14 AM

7. someone read my mind

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Response to Ferd Berfel (Original post)

Wed Feb 10, 2016, 12:58 AM

9. My guess/hope is that she learns something and gets the message....

The fact she is echoing some of things that Bernie says is good. And I'm sure many other Democratic pols are also taking notice.

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