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[pangaia]

1. Ignorance is bliss.

[Avalux]

2. Red herring alert!

[arely staircase]

75. Caption: you suckers thought I didn't take Wall St. money?

Psyche! !!!!!!

[beam me up scottie]

3. Strawman and more red baiting from you.

[gyroscope]

4. Another day, another lame smear tactic

eom

[whatchamacallit]

5. No one is biting

Your bait is rancid.

[Cali_Democrat]

6. Remember, Bernie is so new...so fresh...so different....

so it's OK if he takes Wall Street money.

[arely staircase]

7. Notice how his supporters can never answer a question.

Its all insults.

[HERVEPA]

9. Notice how stupid the questions are.

[beam me up scottie]

12. ^^^THIS^^^

[ChairmanAgnostic]

19. ewe betcha.

[uponit7771]

30. ad homs are an indicator or weak positions

[truedelphi]

102. Well there was that free checking account that he maintained. n/t

[G_j]

11. here is a question

how much DSCC money comes from Wall Street?

[Duckhunter935]

21. bet you get crickets

Of course if you go by the Hillary supporters narrative, it must be 100% from Wall Street.

[randome]

24. Enough for Sanders to move in and use to his advantage.

[hr][font color="blue"][center]Everything is a satellite to some other thing.[/center][/font][hr]

[uponit7771]

32. +1

[arely staircase]

62. How much Wall Street money are you ok with him taking?

I thought it was corrupting? So Bernie can be a little corrupt and you are fine with it?

[G_j]

77. I'm just curious, but it appears

you don't like to answer questions either.

[arely staircase]

85. How much Wall Street money are you ok with him taking?

Lemme guess
Exactly the amount he took.

[Duckhunter935]

16. I answered and no insults

Let's see if the OP actually answers my questions back.

[HERVEPA]

35. Here you go

"I learned long ago, never to wrestle with a pig. You get dirty, and besides, the pig likes it."
- George Bernard Shaw

[arely staircase]

64. Or in Bernies laying down with dogs then condeming

everone's fleas but his own.

[HERVEPA]

79. Wow. what utter stupidity in your posts

Can't tell the difference between apples and Vegetarian General Tso.

[Bohemianwriter]

48. The question was disingenouos to begin with....

Perhaps it's easier to attack with strawmen than to defend the politics and the money ones own candidate have been taking directly from Wall Street, Big Pharma, arms dealers....Shall we continue?

Kind regards
a veteran from Bill's war

[Goblinmonger]

8. If this is the best you've got, you should just quit now.

Also, he's using the DSCC money for his Presidential bid? I bet that's not legal--you should report it.

[truedelphi]

103. But then they may need to give up their day job.

Ever notice how some here disappear the minute it is 5Pm on a Friday?

[Kalidurga]

10. You mean money from the party?

Money that is earmarked to help Democrats win elections? Should we refuse anything that is touched by a corporation, like oh say putting gas in our cars? Like it or not we have to work in the system as corrupt as it is. Now, Bernie isn't taking money directly from them it's filtered through a Democratic organization I am cool with that. It's all we can ask that the money doesn't funnel directly from speaking fees taken from the corporations that will make sure none of us have even enough money to pay rent and buy food all in the same month.

[arely staircase]

100. Those who live in glass houses ahould not throw stones

Those who take corporate money should not criticize others for taking the same.

This will sink Bernie.

[Kalidurga]

104. LOL

I remember when Bernie was going to get whupped in Iowa and New Hampshire and he had 1% of the AA vote and he was at 5% in the national polls. Forgive me if I think your crystal ball is opaque.

[arely staircase]

109. You don't remember me saying that.

I said he would win NH and IA. Then little to nothing else. But I was wrong. He didn't so as well as I predicted.

[ejbr]

13. if you can spare 5 minutes

[Hassin Bin Sober]

36. This should be its own OP.

[jham123]

78. After watching this

The OP should delete his account and hide out in his mothers basement for the remainder of the campaign. The allegation is shameful at best

Again, the Hillary camp "just cannot seem to figure out why the Bernie supporters are feeling so insulted"

[Prism]

14. You do realize Sandinista is an actual word, yes?

Unless you think Sanders' campaign is being financed by Nicaraguan rebels.

Although! They are democratic socialists. So, neatly done there.

[beam me up scottie]

18. Of course they do, it's another dog whistle.

First the red baiting op and now this?

[Duckhunter935]

15. why is he being helped by the DSCC?

I thought the Hillary supporters do not think he is a Democrat.

It is quite different if you take 100% of wall Street money and put it in your personal bank account or as he did take money from the Democratic party for an election.

Question for you, so are you saying 100% of the DSCC funding the Democratic party sent to Bernie came from wall Street and he put it into his personal bank acount? I eagerly await your response.

[NightWatcher]

17. As an Independent, does Bernie even get DSCC help?

But he definitely doesn't go out and shill for it in person.

[arely staircase]

101. Yes he gets Wall Street money through the DSCC

[farleftlib]

20. Ouch! That NH rout last night really struck a nerve

because this is just pitifully weak.

[CajunBlazer]

86. Nah, it's temporary - we'll see how you feel after Nevada, SC and the Feb. 1st primaries

Good luck, Bernie is going to need it.

[arely staircase]

88. Nothing could be finer than a brick wall in Carolina! nt

[GumboYaYa]

22. Really simple answer

Wall Street does not control the purse strings on the $200,000 that Bernie took from the DSCC. There is no quid pro quo between Bernie and Wall Street.

Now on the other hand, I am guessing that Citigroup, Morgan Stanley, JP Morgan etc. expect some return on investment for the hundreds of thousands of dollars each has given directly to Hillary.

There is no equivalency. Hillary and her supporters are making a giant mistake thinking that the voters are not smart enough to see through this nonsense.

[Jefferson23]

23. Some do no want to hear that, nope. n/t

[Duckhunter935]

26. notice how they have sell now run away

They were crowing about no answers and when we do they run and refuse to answer ours, sad and petty.

[Jefferson23]

38. You put out the distortion, you hope it sticks. Stupid, but I guess they play the odds.

Look at Brock, a self admitted career liar, she hires him but they focus
on anonymous online harassment...which is ugly, but I think you get
what I mean. I asked about that, how can anyone control and or
identify these people? How about we focus on ending smearing
by those we can clearly identify..like Brock?

Silence.

[liberal N proud]

29. You believe that?

[uponit7771]

37. Strawman, no one is talking about who controls purse strings but taking money from wall

... street at all is the sin.

Doesn't matter what it is for or who INDIRECTLY it was from

Sounds like Sanders is going to have to write down his bible of who's a progressive sinner and who's a saint no?

ti

[GumboYaYa]

53. Trolling DU will not get votes for Hillary

[uponit7771]

59. Neither will Saint Sanders Shifting Standards (tm) .... lol... I'll keep this one

[TheCowsCameHome]

25. I have a free checking account, so

put the 'cuffs on me, too.

[Fuddnik]

27. New talking point from Camp Trainwreck

[matt819]

61. Or Camp Weathervane

Looks like the wind is blowing progressive at the moment.

[ieoeja]

69. Or Camp Kucinich.

Looks like another Presidential primary loss is blowing in for somebody.

[uponit7771]

28. Yeap, still mostly non answers and a justification here and there but the double standard is now

... going to be illuminated

[Duckhunter935]

39. what double standard

Did Bernie put Wall Street money directly into his personal bank account like hillary? Did she also take money from the DSCC? Did 100 % of the DSCC come from Wall Street? Bet you will not answer any of those simple questions.

[Qutzupalotl]

46. 0.0016% of the DSCC funds came from Wall Street.

Meanwhile, Clinton's speaking fee $$$s went DIRECTLY in her pocket. Not to her campaign, but to her account as a BRIBE.

[uponit7771]

93. Again, can we all get the book on what amount can't or can come from wall street to be able to

... influence somene

The Clintons are worth 150million and 600k is what!??!? .030% of their net worth...

I mean, if we're going to apply standards accross the board

[Qutzupalotl]

96. Are you counting her speaking fees?

I think you should.

[uponit7771]

97. yes, the 600k is in speaking fees their net worth is 150 million and they're not all

... from speaking fees

IF it is then damn, that's a lot of speaking !!!

lol...

make that money honey

[Qutzupalotl]

98. Try $153 MILLION in speaking fees for both Clintons.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/05/politics/hillary-clinton-bill-clinton-paid-speeches/

[AgingAmerican]

92. This is just another Hillary Clinton lie

He has taken zero corporate dollars.

[uponit7771]

94. Unnn, he lobbied money from Wall Street FOR DSCC and then took money from DSCC... that's my ..

... understanding

[AgingAmerican]

99. .0016% of DSCC money comes from Wall Street

Of the alleged $200,000, $36,000 of it actually went to Sanders. $100,000 of it went to the Vermont Democratic Party. Hillary is a liar.

And, there is no quid pro quo between Sanders and Wall Street, he has received $0 from them. These lame false smears you guys keep throwing out here only make people run to Bernie Sanders.

[Goblinmonger]

106. Do you have proof he is using that fund for his Presidential run?

Anything?

[arcane1]

31. Seriously, that dead horse is a skeleton at this point.

Let's try some original material.

[Jarqui]

33. Please provide a list of what Wall Street money Bernie has taken and when

It's a pretty short list so it shouldn't take you too long.

[Orsino]

34. This is why we need to dump the two-drink minimum on DU.

But here's the answer you weren't hoping for: taking money from the Democratic Party is how Sanders proves himself a Democrat.

You don't want him running as an independent, do you?

[Duckhunter935]

40. lol

[Jefferson23]

41. HA HA

[jham123]

80. That right there is funny, I don't care who ya are...

[lumberjack_jeff]

87. Heh. +1 n/t

[Iliyah]

42. Yep, its ok for him but HRC is the devil - LOL

[Kelvin Mace]

47. Cool, I am sure he will give back the $200,000

he AND the Vermont Democratic Party received from the DSCC,, if HRC will give back the $21 million she got from Wall Street this campaign cycle.

[jham123]

81. Watch the posted video

It isn't even $40k....plus, he would be giving back the $37k to the DNC

I guess he could do that and let the DNC divvy it all back up with an attempt to find out where each penny came from and return the the ones that came directly from Wallstreet

[bkkyosemite]

83. He did not do what Hillary did........apples and oranges.

[Kelvin Mace]

43. I'll answer your question

First, not only Wall Street donates to the DSCC. Check are written by Wall Street AND lots of other interest groups big and small. The money is then used to recruit opponents to run against Republicans and to donate to individual senators.

Second, what was Bernie's share of this "largesse"?

- A $37,300 direct donation to his 2006 campaign
- $60,000 in ad buys
- A $100,000 contribution to the Vermont Democratic Party.

So, in 2006 the DSCC gave Bernie less than a single Goldman-Sachs speech worth of cash. The money was not put in his pocket, it went to help him get elected, and to the VDP.

Do you REALLY want me to list all of HRC's Wall Street money?

[jham123]

82. I will

Citigroup Inc $824,402 $816,402 $8,000
Goldman Sachs $760,740 $750,740 $10,000
DLA Piper $700,530 $673,530 $27,000
JPMorgan Chase & Co $696,456 $693,456 $3,000
Morgan Stanley $636,564 $631,564 $5,000
EMILY's List $609,684 $605,764 $3,920
Time Warner $501,831 $476,831 $25,000
Skadden, Arps et al $469,290 $464,790 $4,500
University of California $417,327 $417,327 $0
Sullivan & Cromwell $369,150 $369,150 $0
Akin, Gump et al $364,478 $360,978 $3,500
Lehman Brothers $362,853 $359,853 $3,000
21st Century Fox $340,936 $340,936 $0
Cablevision Systems $336,613 $307,225 $29,388
Kirkland & Ellis $329,141 $312,141 $17,000
National Amusements Inc $328,312 $325,312 $3,000
Squire Patton Boggs $328,306 $322,868 $5,438
Greenberg Traurig LLP $327,890 $319,790 $8,100
Corning Inc $322,450 $304,450 $18,000
Credit Suisse Group $318,120 $308,120 $10,000

[G_j]

107. thanks

Knowledge is good thing.

[Old Codger]

44. Pretty pathetic

Might give e for effort but you are wasting time trying to smear a good man...go back to wherever you and your cronies hang and make up some more BS. Bye Bye

[Vinca]

45. YUUUUUGE difference between DSCC money and a deposit of $225,000 in your personal account.

In any case, release the transcripts. Bernie's. Hillary's. All of them. Let's see who said what.

[jeff47]

49. You're late. This attack was scheduled for 2 days ago.

To actually answer your question, the money for the DSCC fundraisers went to...the DSCC.

The money Clinton was paid for her speeches went to...Clinton. Not even her campaign, her own bank account.

If you can't tell the difference, you're being willfully blind.

[dorkzilla]

73. Even better - look at response #70

So he RAISES money for the DSCC but does not TAKE money from the DSCC - this from the keyboard of a guy who is in the know of the Democratic Party!

How twisted is this going to get?

[arely staircase]

110. He has taken nearly a quarter od a million. Took. Not raised. NT

[dorkzilla]

112. Source please

And I think you know there is a vast difference between taking $250k via the DSCC and all the money Hillary has taken from Wall Street DIRECTLY, so stop the BS. It dishonest at best.

[jham123]

84. Obtuse is the word you are looking for

[jillan]

50. Omg. Please make the lies stop.

[BainsBane]

108. The OP isn't lying.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/05/politics/sanders-democratic-fundraisers/

[HassleCat]

51. Never happened!

Impossible, because Bernie is not a real Democrat, and he hates the party, and he would never raise money for Democratic candidates.

[Mike Nelson]

52. Anyone can donate...

...they should give Bernie more - Hillary, too!

[Depaysement]

54. Which is it?

Bernie's not in the Party! Bad Bernie!

Bernie's in the Party! He took Party money and some of that came indirectly from corporations! Bad Bernie!

[notadmblnd]

55. Why are you obsessed with Sanders? I thought you were a Clinton supporter?

Shouldn't you be singing her praises? How about just listing her accomplishments while SOS? Or even one good result she got while holding that position?

[dchill]

56. Why is it ok for you to post utter BS?

DSCC is not a Wall Street bank.

[in_cog_ni_to]

57. Bernie didn't invite those people, the DSCC did...that's on them . Nice try. n/t

[cyberswede]

58. The answers are non-answers becasue the question is a non-question,.

Duh.

[matt819]

60. My oh my.

He helped raise money for the DSCC, and, yes, he benefited from that. How much of that was from Wall Street and how much from other funders? I'm sure that's checkable. Sadly, that's the state of our political system, and I hope he can change that when elected.

Hillary, on the other hand, earned $14 million directly from Wall Street entities for speeches she gave to those companies, beginning at $225,000 per. She earned another $25 million plus from other, mostly corporate, organizations.

There is a difference between those two types of "fund raising." And this doesn't inlude the other $100 million earned by her husband for similar activities. Nor does it include donations to the Clinton Foundation which resulted in quid pro quos by Bill or Hillary, the latter in her official capacity.

So, yes, there are differences.

[AtomicKitten]

63. Sanders Hits Back at Clinton's Claims That He Took Wall Street Money

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511193787

[beam me up scottie]

66. Nice. Another lie from the Clinton campaign taken down.

[AtomicKitten]

67. We just need to burn down the lies one after another ... NEXT!!!11

[cali]

65. First of all going to DSCC functions isn't going

to Goldman Sachs and making for personal profit speeches. Secondly, he never held big money fundraisers. Thirdly, comparing dscc funds with funds raised from wealthy bundlers who raise big bucks from their corporate buddies, is fucking obscene.

Some Clinton supporters frighten me.

Hilly has sucked up 100 million from corporations. Bernie? Well under 200 grand over 25 years and that wasn't through direct soliciting.

Ugh.

[casperthegm]

68. Clinton supporters should be outraged

That her campaign is trying to blur lines. Just wait until her super pacs start airing ads. You want to talk about blurred lines and half-truths. It's going to get ugly. But we need to stay vigilant and call them out on this and make others aware of the lies. This is a grass roots campaign and it's up to us to make sure that others don't get taken in by these ads that are coming.

[brooklynite]

70. In fairness, he doesn't get DSCC money...

...he hasn't had a competitive re-elect in years; DSCC puts money where it's needed.

[dorkzilla]

71. Thank you, brooklynite

I know you’re not a Bernie fan, and I appreciate your being frank (you could have just said nothing, so thanks).

[brooklynite]

72. As I've said before, I like Bernie a lot...

...and if someone could give me a serious explanation of his electability, I'd be willing to switch sides.

[dorkzilla]

74. you have to admit he’s overcoming at least one of your prior misgivings

and that was he was never going to be able to be competitive without the big donors behind him.

[brooklynite]

76. No - I'll acknowledge he's raising adequate money for the nomination...

...but the question will be: can he raise 10X that for the Presidential? Even with the power of incubency, President Obama raised and spent $1 B. That would mean about 28 M additional contributions on top of what he's done so far.

[dorkzilla]

89. I think his campaign has been a game changer

And I guess we’ll just have to wait and see.

[lob1]

90. You should do more posts like this, because this kind if crap

is why people are pouring over to Bernie's side.

[NurseJackie]

91. There IS an answer to that ...

... but you're unlikely to receive one from a Bernie fan. And you're equally unlikely to receive one from a Hillary fan who wants to avoid having their post hidden.

[H2O Man]

95. I think that this

is one of those things that you either "get," or you don't. I don't believe that it's something that can be explained, in so many words.

[BainsBane]

105. cuz Bernie!