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TipTok

(2,474 posts)
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 01:30 AM Feb 2016

Superdelegates Exist to Protect Party Leaders from Grassroots Competition - DWS

Democratic National Committee chair and Florida Congresswoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz explained the motive behind the Democratic Party’s appointment of unpledged delegates, also called “superdelegates,” who are former party leaders and elected officials who are allowed to ignore the outcome of primary elections’ popular vote totals and instead vote for the presidential candidate of their personal choice at the party’s nominating convention.

CNN’s Jake Tapper asked Wasserman Schultz on Thursday, “Hillary Clinton lost to Bernie Sanders in New Hampshire by 22 percentage points, the biggest victory in a contested Democratic primary there since John F. Kennedy, but it looks as though Clinton and Sanders are leaving the Granite State with the same number of delegates in their pockets because Clinton has the support of New Hampshire’s superdelegates, these party insiders. What do you tell voters who are new to the process who says[sic] this makes them feel like it’s all rigged?”

Wasserman Schultz replied, “Well, let me just make sure that I can clarify exactly what was available during the primaries in Iowa and in New Hampshire. The unpledged delegates are a separate category. The only thing available on the ballot in a primary and a caucus is the pledged delegates— those that are tied to the candidate that they are pledged to support, and they receive a proportional number of delegates going into our convention.”

She added, “Unpledged delegates exist really to make sure that party leaders and elected officials don’t have to be in a position where they are running against grassroots activists. We are as a Democratic Party really highlight and emphasize inclusiveness and diversity at our convention, and so we want to give every opportunity to grassroots activists and diverse, committed Democrats to be able to participate, attend, and be a delegate at the convention. And so we separate out those unpledged delegates to make sure that there isn’t competition between them.”

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WTF...

http://truthinmedia.com/dnc-chair-superdelegates-protect-party-leaders-from-grassroots-competition/

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Avalux

(35,015 posts)
1. So...grassroots are charity cases?
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 01:35 AM
Feb 2016

Isn't that sweet. The DNC tolerates their involvement and throws them a few bones every now and then so they'll vote Dem, but that's it. They have a firewall to keep them from being part of the leadership.

Damn.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
2. Both candidates has the same opportunity to secure the endorsements of the super delegates.
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 01:36 AM
Feb 2016

No, the super delegates are not elected through the primary election, the delegates elected in the election are dedicated. Are the rules going to be changed this year, no will they be changed before the next presidential election, doubtful, why, for the reason they have been put into place in the first place.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
3. I just about choked when I heard that...speaking of Establishment Politics...she's defined it
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 01:37 AM
Feb 2016

and carried it out. The Old Guard and the Young Whippersnappers. What's a Party to do?

JonLeibowitz

(6,282 posts)
4. I was discussing this with a friend, and we think it is a poor choice of phrasing.
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 01:41 AM
Feb 2016

What DWS should have said was "Unpledged delegates exist really to make sure that party leaders and elected officials don’t have to be in a position where they are running against those who do not run on Democratic values"

Imagine a situation where the Tea Party gets marching orders to register as Dems and elect Rubio as the Dem Nominee. I think this is what she should have meant.

If she meant what she actually literally said she is unfit to be Party Chairwoman, let alone a member of Congress.

 

earthshine

(1,642 posts)
10. An old saying ...
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 02:42 AM
Feb 2016
When people show you who they are, believe them.

That was a moment of unusual candor from DWS.

I think she needs to be taken literally.

deathrind

(1,786 posts)
5. So...
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 01:42 AM
Feb 2016

In other words it is rigged. I have lost all respect for DWS/DNC.

The only upside to this is watching Sanders snatch victory from a rigged defeat.

 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
6. So.... Separate but equal?
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 01:44 AM
Feb 2016
we separate out those unpledged delegates to make sure that there isn’t competition between them.”



Seriously?





 

TipTok

(2,474 posts)
8. Separate and equal to the votes of millions of people....
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 02:06 AM
Feb 2016

... and their positions are beholden to the establishment powers in the party.

 

AtomicKitten

(46,585 posts)
7. Since when do they add them in state by state? Oh I can guess when and why.
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 01:49 AM
Feb 2016

To try to minimize Bernie's 22.5% ass-whooping he administered in New Hampshire.

The superdelegates have always been a separate count. Counting them in the running tally is new and will prove to be very embarrassing just like last time when they exited her campaign in droves.

 

earthshine

(1,642 posts)
11. I read so many posts about how Superdelegates are unimportant.
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 02:46 AM
Feb 2016

So, why did Hill and Bill go through so much trouble to court them before she even declared her candidacy?

I think it stinks real bad.

TheBlackAdder

(28,167 posts)
13. DWS has one fucked up view of the Democratic Party!
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 02:52 AM
Feb 2016

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The Republican Party is a Top=Down organization, whereas the Democratic Party is a Bottom-Up structure.

She is trying to act as a gatekeeper, much loke the party bosses of the RNC.



Between her views of the Democratic Party -and- those Norquist-esque "Loyalty Oaths"...

The DNC is showing how similar they are to the RNC!


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