A canvasser for Hillary just came by....

[Spitfire of ATJ]

He saw all of the Bernie signs in our windows and said I was on his list as a Hillary supporter.

I told him I suspect when the firewall was down it wasn't Bernie that went in and stole stuff from Hillary it was Hillary that stole stuff from Bernie.

He agreed and said I'm not the first he's met that said that to him. Then he said his union was making him go out and canvass for Hillary but he's personally voting for Bernie and so is everyone he knows.

[Cali_Democrat]

1. Hillary stole stuff from Bernie?

Wasn't it Bernie who apologized for taking Hillary's data?

Was there some sort of revisionist history that has occurred since then?

I can see a post in GDP right now blaming Bill Clinton for GWB's 2008 financial crisis. This place is all about revisionist history now so nothing surprises me anymore.

BTW, got proof Hillary' campaign took Bernie's data? We know Bernie's campaign took Hillary's voter data because he admitted it and apologized.

[bkkyosemite]

10. I started getting swamped with Hillary emails when this occurred...I never

did anything to make that camp think I was for HRC. Never! Yet all of a sudden during this supposed data snatch I start getting swamped by her camp. Can we get an explanation.

[laserhaas]

46. me too. Anti Hillary as they come ..and yet

The very minute the set up...DWS loose lip brigade points the finger at Bernie ...the 3 pointing back slam me with HRC bull chit.
.
No jury should ever get this data miner case; because Schmillary and DWS would be found
.
G U I L T Y

[PatrynXX]

58. +1 N/T

[Fla Dem]

59. Yeah, but I keep getting stuff for Ben Carson saying what a great supporter I am, lol. nt

[weknowvino2]

158. Me too

In 7 days, I received 6 emails from Hill's gang asking for $$.
I replied that each time they solicit me, I will donate $10.00 to Bernie Sander's campaign.
Guess what?
The emails from them magically & suddenly went away.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

11. I never signed up for her campaign and yet I have a stack of glossy mailers from her that's growing.

[winterwar]

22. Same here

I still have all the emails from the Clinton camp. I started getting them about a week or so after the whole "Bernie's people stole info" dust-up. I got them almost daily, so I decided to ask how they got my info. They never responded, so I told them to stop emailing me. I even got one asking for a $1 donation. Bizarre.

[Duval]

26. I get them all the time, even after I replied

about 4 times that I was for Bernie. Got two this morning asking for a $1.00 donation. It is bizarre.

[Bohemianwriter]

31. Did you get the #I'mnotkiddingmaddie appeal as well?

[Duval]

65. Yep. How about "We really need you", and "we keep emailing"??

Ewwww, she looks and sounds so angry and mean.

[TryLogic]

193. I think that is because she IS angry and mean.

[Divernan]

79. Next up: Send me a goddamned penny! You can afford a goddamned penny!

If you don't send me a goddamned penny by return mail, I'm going to make Bill stand on K Street collecting pennies in a goddamned can! And it will be all your fault!

[Art_from_Ark]

178. If she gives me a postage-paid envelope, I'll send her a penny

Heck, I'll even send her a vacuum cleaner penny.

[greiner3]

184. Amazing what you can send via postage paid envelope

I read where someone posted they glued the envelope onto a sturdy box and inside was a 50 lb rock. Just sayin

[Kall]

32. Is that you, Maddi?

[Spitfire of ATJ]

27. Yup. I've been letting the stuff arrive to see what she sends....

One of them uses her "H" logo as a "Hospital" road sign.

Inside is a list of really lame half measures like capping prescription drug costs at $250 a month which is a quarter of an average Social Security recipient's pay. You can score a tax cut (if you itemize) and,....WOW! Actually see your doctor when you're sick even if you haven't met your plan's deductible!

The alternative is Republicans repealing Obamacare. Hillary will protect it and not raise your taxes to do it.

Guess that favor's on the house then.

[FreeState]

39. I haven't got a single piece of information from Hillary and Im on Bernie's lists n/t

[Spitfire of ATJ]

41. Maybe it's because I signed up from a rally.

[phylny]

98. I've gotten absolutely nothing, actually, from

either campaign, even though I've donated to Bernie. However, I did get a call from a Bernie phone bank about a month ago.

[DhhD]

139. I believe that my email address was given to H C by DWS when I answered the reason for

unsubscribing from the DNC: D was so angry she forced the electronic door open to my PC in my house. I received other emails saying I was a H C Supporter. It backfired.

[Beowulf]

13. simple question

Did the deregulation of the banking industry that happened under the Clinton administration contribute to the 2008 financial crisis or not?

[Fantastic Anarchist]

112. Yes, it did. nt

[snot]

124. There'd have been no excuse to bail out the banks if Glass-Steagall had not been repealed.

[bvar22]

194. Deregulation of the Banks was THE cause of the collapse...

...and the resulting Bail Out.

[RoccoR5955]

30. He apologized for the breech

However there was not word one from the Clinton camp. This tells me that they have something to hide, as the breech went both ways. I have no proof, just the proof that the data files were open to ALL during the time period, which has been reported. If past practice is a guideline, than Clinton's people stole data from Bernie. That's all I am saying.

[Lazy Daisy]

33. We still haven't heard

the results of that "independent" investigation, now have we? Wonder why?

[liberal from boston]

183. DNC

I too am still waiting for the results of the Independent Investigation. It was Sanders who first notified the DNC about the data breech (BTW, it happened before & again Bernie was the first to notify DNC). Debbie Wasserman Shultz immediately shut off access to the Sanders Campaign & it was interesting when Bernie was able to get a federal judge to hear the case that same day that DWS backed off & there was no hearing. Senator Sanders was so gracious towards Hillary at the debates. I was troubled too by Hillary's giving a victory speech in Iowa when the media was reporting it was too close to call. I will vote the Democratic nominee but I am praying that it will be Senator Sanders.

[Red Oak]

42. Bill Clinton (and Hillary) had a very large part to play in the 2007-2008 financial crisis

Are you are not aware of the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act and how it resulted in the financial crisis? G W Bush was a bit player compared to this stupid bill that Bill Clinton signed into law.

Maybe things would not look like revisionist history if one knew the history in play.

Here is the Wiki on the bill that Bill Clinton (with Hillary's full backing and even lobbying at the time) signed into law:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gramm%E2%80%93Leach%E2%80%93Bliley_Act

"It repealed part of the Glass–Steagall Act of 1933, removing barriers in the market among banking companies, securities companies and insurance companies that prohibited any one institution from acting as any combination of an investment bank, a commercial bank, and an insurance company. With the bipartisan passage of the Gramm–Leach–Bliley Act, commercial banks, investment banks, securities firms, and insurance companies were allowed to consolidate. Furthermore, it failed to give to the SEC or any other financial regulatory agency the authority to regulate large investment bank holding companies.[1] The legislation was signed into law by President Bill Clinton."

[ellennelle]

44. twist much?

there was no apology for taking any data. there was apology for accessing the list. it was noted the problem with the site went both ways, and no one really knew how often those 'gaps' occurred.

who accuses bill of causing the crisis? tho gosh, repeal of glass-steagel did happen on his watch; he signed that bill, did he not?

so what revisions of history did you want proof of, exactly?

[retrowire]

45. There was never any proof that Bernie's campaign stole anything either.

They accessed it, then bailed out.

No copies were ever made.

[PatrynXX]

57. as far as I know there is no proof Bernie stole any data

you know something we don't?

btw I've been getting tons of stuff from Hillary since a about september. who broke in first??? I've fairly much told them in no certain terms but nicely walk the other direction. but I've had great chats with Rand Paul supporters even though he's out now

[Rocky the Leprechaun]

95. Bill Clinton did cause the 2008 financial crisis

by removing Glass-Stegall act that was designed to PREVENT shadow banking.

[Dustlawyer]

149. Bill sold us all out and Hillary was directly involved the whole time!

Now she says it's her turn to sell us out, she has already received her down payment from Wall Street and Big business and needs to deliver their goods. I will do what I can to ensure Hillary has to breach her contract with them!

[Betty Karlson]

123. She stole it. With Debbie's blessing too, I suspect.

Those women cannot be trusted. Not because of their gender, but because of their Third Way mentality and dishonest campaigning.

[rhett o rick]

195. Wouldn't at all be surprised. Clinton has the financial backing to buy the best

tricksters available. Sen Sanders' team are most likely naive about dirty tricks while Clinton's team are experts.

This is a class war, although some want to deny it, and the Wealthy 1% are not on the side of the 99%. There is no question in my mind that the millions and millions given to Clinton for her personal wealth influence her positions on issues.

[George II]

198. And he fired his top IT guy and a few others.

[JonLeibowitz]

2. Great response

[Punkingal]

3. Wow! What was his union, do you know?

Where are you in Vegas? I lived on the east side, near Sam's Town for a long time.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

12. I did but I'll refrain from details for his sake.

[restorefreedom]

4. i had a feeling that would eventually leak out

about that "firewall" ...typical clinton...they do the deed, and try and spin it that someone else did it and wronged them.

his union is making him do this? ugh..guess they aren't keeping track of those feelingthebern....

[valerief]

9. Yep, false flagging. nt

[Cassiopeia]

5. His union was forcing him to canvass for Hillary?

Yeah, If I was a member the supplies would be recycled and I'd spend my day talking about Bernie.

[restorefreedom]

6. :)

[SusanCalvin]

35. Yeah, one wonders what their system is for checking up. nt

[cui bono]

81. How is that possible? Or is this someone trying to give unions a bad name? n/t

[tavernier]

179. I call bullshit.

Bernie supporters don't canvass for other candidates.

[Cassiopeia]

197. I'm with you.

My guess is he has run into so many Bernie supporters that he has adopted that line just to make his own life easier.

[bvar22]

196. No way can that be true,

Making someone canvass is a good way to produce the opposite effect. I physically and emotionally could NOT stand at someone's front door and lie for a candidate I don't support.
Most people are smarter than that.
They could instantly detect that I was lying out my a**.

I'm not a Con Man.
I could never sell something I don't believe in, and no one could make me do it....effectively.
...but I'm not a Clinton, so there IS that.

[AtomicKitten]

7. Rove 2.0 strategy: Accuse your opponent of what you are doing.

[Cleita]

8. Can unions force you to canvass for candidates you don't support?

That's not cool. My union told us whom they supported but we were never expected to work or vote for them.

[PonyUp]

14. Maybe the union is paying him to do this. Maddi, you better send in that dollar. n/t

[artislife]

18. You get extra points for that!! nt

[Spitfire of ATJ]

16. I imagine the stewards are.

[OrwellwasRight]

118. No. Unions cannot force members to do anything.

Except of course pay dues IF that is in the contract in a non right to work state.

He probably meant that he was cajoled or felt pressured to do so. Unions can be pushy, but if they weren't they wouldn't be doing their job.

[Starry Messenger]

145. No.

[vaberella]

165. They can't force you, but they push it heavily. I was against DeBlasio.

My union was pimping him heavily. I still voted against, but I know my colleagues went with it.

[1StrongBlackMan]

15. Cool story, Bro. eom.

[Lucinda]

17. +1

[bigtree]

20. +100

[retrowire]

47. Did someone else hijack your account?

You're usually a lot more succinct and sharp.

Now you're coming off as internet meme bro-ish.

[Squinch]

115. You might want to look up the meaning of "succinct."

3 words is succinct.

But we'll have to take your word for it in the internet meme bro talk.

[Bonobo]

132. Disagree.

Passive aggressiveness accounts for something like 85% of their posts.

[BeanMusical]

134. +1

[senz]

48. Cool comment, Bro.

[Snotcicles]

52. Tired comment for sure. nt

[treestar]

55. +1

We're supposed to believe this?

[Bonobo]

101. Another passive aggressive comment. Hard to break patterns. nt

[1StrongBlackMan]

102. LOL ... Yes, I'm laughung at you, eom.

[Bonobo]

104. Happy to be of service. But seriously, "Cool story, bro?" Really? nt

[1StrongBlackMan]

108. Yes ... Really ...

I suppose you believe that story, huh?

[Bonobo]

109. That a canvasser for Hillary came by?

It's not exactly "Aliens Land in L.A.", is it?

[BeanMusical]

135. Lol!

[1StrongBlackMan]

138. Yeah ... That's the unbelievable part of the story. eom.

[Squinch]

114. Yep. The poster doesn't seem to understand how unions work. No, unions can't force members to

canvas for a politician.

Jesus! The stuff people say on the internet! And the people who believe it!

[1StrongBlackMan]

140. LOL ... Sad, isn't it? ...

I don't know which is worse that people pass on this stuff, that people believe it, or that so many are so willing to defend it.

[Agschmid]

153. All of the above.

[Logical]

128. So calling the poster liar, classy as usual. Nt

[Squinch]

143. Tell me which unions have the ability to force their members to canvas for a political candidate.

Canvas against their will, I should say.

This isn't how unions work, it isn't what they do.

The story is just silly.

[Logical]

150. Nope. Duh!! You cannot legally force them but pressure them! And paybacks are hell. nt

[Squinch]

152. Nope. Duh! This is a Republican fantasy. It doesn't happen.

I know you are going to say something like "duh! you're wrong!" so save some time and show me any evidence that any union member was ever forced to canvas against his or her will for a candidate he or she doesn't support.

I am a member of one of the few remaining strong unions in America. This just doesn't happen.

[Logical]

154. Yes, it does happen. Nice try. nt

[Squinch]

155. So give me a documented example. It doesn't happen in my union. Nor in the

construction unions that my family members belong to. So where does it happen?

[Hortensis]

180. No, it does not. It would BREAK any union that did it.

Not everyone is a characterless Weak Willie like the OP's imaginary character. The outrage would be enormous, and the liberal members would be outraged right alongside the conservatives and others. Take my word for that last; I'm a liberal and we don't just fight for our own rights or our own equality.

[KingFlorez]

19. I'm skeptical that anyone from a union can be "forced" to canvass

I would imagine that there is a volunteer sign-up list for those who want to canvass or do campaign work. I've never heard of anyone being forced to canvass.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

21. Just using his phrase of "making him". I suspect he's a union rep.

[Live and Learn]

72. They can and they do. nt

[Squinch]

156. No, they don't. Show me any documented case where this has happened.

I am a member of a strong union. My family members are members of other strong unions. It is a Republican fantasy that unions strong arm their members to do anything.

And here it is on DU finding believers.

[Live and Learn]

204. Most don't but a few do. And I am a staunch union defender and member.

Of course, since unions are a dying institution in this country it won't matter in the future unless we turn it around.

[Squinch]

205. Show me proof. This is Right Wing idiocy.

[Live and Learn]

206. Look up some info about the Teamsters Union. nt

[Squinch]

207. I have relatives who are Teamsters. This has never happened. Try another.

[Live and Learn]

208. So do I and it has happened. nt

[Squinch]

209. Cool story bro.

[Old Crow]

23. LOLOLOLOLOL!

I'm guffawing as I ... try... to type this.

Oh, for Pete's sake. If this isn't a sure indication of a candidacy falling apart, what is?

[Spitfire of ATJ]

24. It's like they created false support for investors.

[Kip Humphrey]

25. THIS is PRICELESS!!!

[Respect 88]

28. Unbelivable! His union made him canvas for Hillary?

[Spitfire of ATJ]

29. Worse. They made a Bernie supporter canvass for Hillary.

[Respect 88]

34. Thanks, I fixed my mis-type

[JTFrog]

36. Cool story bro. n/t

[Bobbie Jo]

37. And they lived happily ever after...

[JTFrog]

40. Indeed! n/t

[Spitfire of ATJ]

43. Much easier to stay in the bubble.

[senz]

50. Cool comment, bro. n/t

[MrMickeysMom]

38. Perfect...

I love that story...

"they're making me" doesn't surprise me at all.

[JDPriestly]

49. K&R.

[senz]

51. K&R

Thanks for sharing this, Spitfire.

[nadinbrzezinski]

53. FYI Unions cannot force members to do that

so the story does smell a tad. I mean on his part.

[Logical]

129. Force no, but pressure yes. And hard to tell them no. Nt

[nadinbrzezinski]

189. I am going from what the OP said

As to pressure, it depends on the Union

I know my husbands union would not even suggest this

[BainsBane]

54. There are records of which files were accessed and by whom

and which were downloaded.

There also is no conceivable reason for Clinton to steal data from Sanders. Hers isn't the campaign that has been holding rallies without even registering voters.

There has been all kinds of information on this released, including PDFs of the server activity. You can believe the world is flat. It doesn't make it so.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

62. "There also is no conceivable reason for Clinton to steal data from Sanders"

Yer right,....no reason at all.

[BainsBane]

56. Moreover, Bernie's campaign admitted it

Are you calling Bernie a liar?

[Spitfire of ATJ]

60. LOL!!! Is that where you really expect to go?

He didn't admit to hacking Hillary.

Got that?

Good.

[cui bono]

82. No, he did not. Moreover, he's suing the DNC and DWS and Hillary sure backed down in a hurry

when he called for a thorough investigation.

.

[emsimon33]

61. That's what you get when organizations and unions do not poll their members.

I would have told the young man to use the time to canvass for Bernie.

[dlwickham]

63. Cool story bro

[Spitfire of ATJ]

64. LOL!!! Get in line.

[Hydra]

74. Ya, 3 in a row!

Is Team Hill missing their approved rebuttal talking points, or was that it?

[Spitfire of ATJ]

90. You just can't get good help these days.

[dlwickham]

100. Unlike you all we don't have a place to copy and paste the same post

Over and over and over and over and over again

The whole oligarch thing was amusing the first thousand times I read it. The Annie Oakley thing may be the first 500 times I saw it.

None of you are very creative when it comes to making your arguments for Sanders.

[Hydra]

103. I think you just broke my irony meter

[dlwickham]

186. If it makes you feel better OK

[geologic]

106. Sanders = good...

[Fawke Em]

188. So THAT'S where she got the rightward arrow!

[geologic]

200. You can too: for $3.95 from Lori Ferber Presidential Memorabilia---

(Not spam hillfolk, on-topic campaign stuff)...

http://www.loriferber.com/catalogsearch/result/index/?p=1&q=barry+goldwater

[dlwickham]

80. Great minds think alike

[Spitfire of ATJ]

87. Dittoheads used to say that too.

[dlwickham]

99. So now you're comparing us to Limbaugh fans

Glad to see you're keeping it classy

[geologic]

107. If the ditto fits...

[Spitfire of ATJ]

113. Not all.

[Dr Hobbitstein]

66. Cool story, bro! You should tell it again.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

69. Why is it so difficult for Hillary supporters to believe there are Bernie supporters?

[Dr Hobbitstein]

73. We don't.

We find it difficult to believe there are Bernie supporters canvasing for Hillary.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

91. I can't believe the union leaders didn't ask the members....

Oh wait, yes I can.

[Dr Hobbitstein]

147. Big bad unions. nt

[Hydra]

75. It isn't, that's the problem

They see Bernie EVERYWHERE now. Their job is to cast doubt on anything that looks like their candidate is slipping.

I'm enjoying watching them running out of fingers to stick in the dike.

[brooklynite]

67. So you think the Clinton campaign wants to waste it's energy on committed Sanders' supporters?

Whatever makes you happy...

[Spitfire of ATJ]

70. This isn't about "belief".

[Thespian2]

68. K & R!!!

[Live and Learn]

71. Iron worker's union? None of them looked happy about having to help out Hillary. nt

[bettyellen]

76. Sounds like an idiot if he didn't take a clue from your signs and move on, no?

The whole story is off.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

83. No.

[bettyellen]

85. Well he loves wasting his time and breaking promises. Sounds awesome.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

86. Your right. If he had been a Hillary supporter he would have given up.

[bettyellen]

88. You check a box of Bernie supporter and move on to the next. Signs= waste of time. That is how you

"clean up your list" for GOTV - and it always happens first canvass. New to all of this?
Shame he lied and told people he would canvass for Hillary- what a lying shit head.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

89. I guess we need to track him down and make him pay.

[bettyellen]

92. Nope, being a lying piece of shit is it's own reward. He will have to go back and lie because he

didn't have the guts to stand on principal or be honest about his support.

[SwampG8r]

142. Wow so union members are pieces of shit to you?

[chervilant]

146. Every time

I think I have the worst of the Hi11ary supporters on my IL, another one pops up (actually, this happens infrequently, as most DUers are supporting Bernie ).

[bettyellen]

201. Didn't say that. This cavesser in the OP was a gutless liar though.

If he existed.

[Hydra]

93. *Zing!*

[Spitfire of ATJ]

94. []

[Squinch]

117. Sounds like an idiot if he thinks his union can force him to canvas for a candidate.

It sounds like a Republican's idea of how unions work. A Republican who has been living under a rock for a while.

[Odin2005]

77. His UNION is making him shill for Clinton?

All the labor radicals of a century ago are rolling in their graves. Modern mainstream unions are a fucking joke.

[nashville_brook]

78. i never had any hillary email until the data breach

now i'm swamped with them.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

84. Did you go to a Bernie rally?

[nashville_brook]

96. no, but i signed up for Bernie email

[Spitfire of ATJ]

97. This might be why....

Folks who show up were probably considered to be a priority.

[Dont call me Shirley]

105. K & R

[Nonhlanhla]

110. The blaming of Hillary

for the Bernie campaign's act of data breach is what made me decide for Hillary. I realized then that Bernie's revolution is not something I want to be part of. If you can do something wrong and then have the chutzpah to blame your opponent for it, then I don't want to be part of your team.

[EvolveOrConvolve]

121. LOL, THAT'S why you support Hillary?

Based on your decision making skills, I'm surprised you're not supporting Trump.

[Nonhlanhla]

122. Thanks for proving my point

You're the reason I don't trust Bernie's revolution.

[EvolveOrConvolve]

160. For god's sake, where did I say I was a Bernie supporter?

That's not a fact in evidence and yet you imputed it. If you're making your voting decision based on something like this, there's something really wrong with your decision making skills.

[Nonhlanhla]

168. You are rude and insulting

The Bernie campaign took data from Hillary and proceeded to insinuate that Hillary was the real culprit, and then sued the DNC. Sure, something must be wrong with my decision making skills, since I found that the final straw after weeks of noticing the aggression, anger, and twisting of truth coming from many of the people who are supposed to make up Bernie's revolution. Your rudeness is doing nothing to change my mind.

[EvolveOrConvolve]

171. Will you base your vote on my "rude and insulting" behavior?

[Nonhlanhla]

191. No

But you're just one nasty person.

Placing you on ignore.

[YOHABLO]

111. that's Hillarious! excuse the pun

[UnBlinkingEye]

161. Hillarious!

That's a bumper sticker!!!

[kiva]

116. I got one the other day.

He asked for my roommate, who wasn't here, so we chatted for a minute. He told me he was canvassing for "the best candidate for the working people" and I said as long as he was talking about Bernie we agreed; he paused and said no, Hillary. Then he said that she was the best candidate and that the ACLU was endorsing her.

I was surprised, he left, and I called a friend who's on the local ACLU board, she confirmed that no, the ACLU does not endorse political candidates. I thought I might have misheard, but saw the guy in my yard a couple of hours later with a woman and asked if they were canvassing for Hillary. He said yes, and I said, are you telling people that the ACLU supports Clinton, he said yes.

When I told him that wasn't true, he insisted that his supervisor told them to tell that to people.

After some consideration, I think that this man was confused by ACLU and the initials of the union he said he was with - though honestly, wouldn't you know the name of your own union?

Anyway, I called the union and they were very unhappy to hear that someone wearing their shirt, presumably a member, was misrepresenting the truth...I suspect a bit more training is in order.

[Enthusiast]

119. K&R! This post has hundreds of recommendations!

For good reason.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

120. You never know what's going to score around here.

[MohRokTah]

125. Cool story!

[Spitfire of ATJ]

126. Now serving #5.

[rusty quoin]

127. Stealing stuff.

I have worried about this for years... stealing Democrats' thunder.

Yeah, Hillary is doing it, but at least she's a Democrat.

I have always worried about guys like Rand Paul, and now Donald Trump. Trump supporters act like it has never been said before, that he's the man finally giving us honesty.

Trump knows what he's doing, and it is so easy to fool the same people who festooned teabags on
straw hats in 2010, and applied Purple Heart band aides in 2004.

If Democrats had acted like Democrats, there would not be this confusion.

[upaloopa]

130. Unions can't make you canvas for some candidate

Pretty soon we will all need hip boots with these bull shit anecdotal stories flying around here.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

131. At least you didn't say, "Cool story".

[eridani]

136. Wondering why you believed the canvasser

It could have been a schtick to extract sympathy.

[99th_Monkey]

133. Holy Crap! A Political Revolution is ON!!! ..so clearly illustrates everything else, like a fractal

illumining the whole Bernie v. Hillary race in a tidy nutshell.

[Helen Borg]

137. How can a union "make" people go out and canvass for Hillary?

Makes no sense to me....

[Squinch]

157. It can't and they don't. But the kids here have a story in their teeth and they're running with it.

[joshcryer]

141. He was wrong or lying about the list.

When you canvas you're told to reach out even if you know it's going to be a dud (because of signs outside the house, etc). This is how you build lists, by writing down addresses that have been hit already. Had he skipped you because of a feeling that you wouldn't support Clinton then the list he was building would be incomplete.

Likely it was just a regular list any campaign can buy from the state Democratic Party. If you ever voted in a Democratic primary (and didn't move) before you're very likely going to be on those lists. Now he could've assumed the list he was looking at was specifically campaign related, but that's not how it works.

If you were "on" a Clinton list, that is, as seen as favorable to Clinton, they would not bother to send someone out to you because you would be a waste of effort. That's why the copied data attempt was so nefarious, because they specifically made exclusion lists, which makes it a lot easier to send people out to "lean Sanders" types.

The Sanders staffers did attempt to steal data:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=919460

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=927402

[Spitfire of ATJ]

159. I don't give out my address to just anyone.

I did to Sanders.

Hillary got it.

.........neener neener neener........

[Vattel]

144. Conspiracy theories like this are not helpful.

There is no evidence that campaign Clinton stole anything from anyone.

[kgnu_fan]

148. K&R

[Hortensis]

151. Everyone he knows is voting for Bernie?

This forum is the only place I ever hear of people with such peculiarly narrow acquaintanceships. And there are so many here! A

And his union is "making" him canvass for Hillary? Didn't that at least raise any doubts at all about his credibility?

[Spitfire of ATJ]

166. "This forum is the only place I ever hear of people with such peculiarly narrow acquaintanceships."

Speak for yourself. I'm still recovering from the Scalia party.

We've already made plans for the Cheney party.

[Hortensis]

172. Death mask theme, just awaiting the date.

But for now Darth Cheney and Bernie's far lefties are doing battle together against the forces of Hillary. Better hope his missing heart keeps beating somewhere a while longer.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

174. I wonder if he's got it in a jar on a shelf.

[Hortensis]

181. Somewhere where he can laugh at it, perhaps?

[Spitfire of ATJ]

182. Like a trophy. He can tell people it tried to kill him.

[Hortensis]

185. LOL. That takes it. Wonder if he really shot it by accident, tho.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

187. I read that he killed it with cheeseburgers.

[Bucky]

162. A Cruz canvasser came by my house. He is stilled tied up in the basement.

Given the state of dental coverage here in Texas, I doubt he'll be able to chew through the restraints

[Spitfire of ATJ]

163. You should release him into the wilds of Canada.

[Bucky]

167. Release a Texan into the frozen wilds of Canada? What sort of monster do you think I am?

[Spitfire of ATJ]

170. Okay,...so Cuba.

[Hortensis]

175. Have a heart. What's the Cubans do to deserve that?

[Spitfire of ATJ]

192. GITMO.

[vaberella]

164. Thank God the UFT has yet to say anything. n/t

[Spitfire of ATJ]

169. Oh come on, you'll get some fresh air and the walking will be good for you.

[vaberella]

173. No, I mean they haven't sided on one candidate yet.

When they do they will be hell on wheels in NYC and I know many teachers will push it. One of my colleagues called Bernie a communist in my class. I was like you're an ass and I was about to say something and I'm like this is class time...WTF is he doing.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

177. I know a teacher at LA Unified that's a Trump supporter who hates Mexicans....

"Just the illegal ones" is what he always says.

I finally told him, "Oh come on. Admit it. Say your dream came true and Trump had ICE kicking in doors and dragging whole families off. Five years later if you saw a Latino face your first thought would be, "We missed one".

[Faux pas]

176. ...

[Bad Dog]

190. His union made him canvass for someone he doesn't support?

What sort of unions do you have over there. People pay dues for a service and job protection not to be told what to do with their free time. Something sounds seriously wrong.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

202. What's fishy is how a union can endorse someone without a vote from their members.

[Bad Dog]

203. Don't know if I agree.

It's time consuming, and costly, having members vote on everything. Certain responsibilities/decisions are delegated to the leadership/committee.

However, a union shouldn't be able to make people take part in political activities they don't believe in. If they're going to pay them for doing it, then that's another matter.

The members are the union, not the bosses, they need to remember that.

[tartan2]

199. Yea my union has endorsed Hillary

but I'm voting for Bernie like a lot of other union folks.

[LanternWaste]

210. That's a rather creative allegation which coincidentally, validates your own political bias.

That's a rather creative allegation which coincidentally, validates your own political bias.