Hillary and Bernie attend same church service. Bernie leaves early while Hillary stays till the end.

[ProudToBeLiberal]

Clinton stayed for the entire service and Sanders left early, heading to a rally at a nearby high school

http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/14/politics/bernie-sanders-hillary-clinton-church/index.html

Yesterday, Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders attended the same church services in Nevada. Both gave speeches. However, Bernie left early, while Hillary had the common decency and courtesy to stay for the entire service.

I think this is very disrespectful from Bernie Sanders. It makes him look insincere. Just think about this. You are a church goer who sees Bernie leave early. Then you see Hillary staying till the end. No matter how you put it, Bernie comes out looking badly.

Kudos to Hillary Clinton for showing respect and common decency.

[JackInGreen]

1. That's a strong set of pearls to withstand firepower of that magnitude!

/akbaroff.
Heaven forbid soneone keep a schedule, and no, couldn't have given a squitter if she'd have left early too if she'd had something to attend to.

[Bonobo]

2. LOL. nt

[CBGLuthier]

3. Oh the scandal. Yes she is so full of common decency and courtesy except

when it comes to bombing the shit out of Iraqi children.

[Bohunk68]

26. Why would he stay to partake of the Eucharist when he is not a Christian?

That would be just as phony as Camp Weathervane claiming they are for the GLBT community.

[Thinkingabout]

52. Perhaps a "Blessing" would be in order or politefully not participating would have been a better

decision.

[roguevalley]

109. this is a sad new fail to read. truly . the only

Other Jew in the room was Jesus and I'm sure he will give a pass.

[Thinkingabout]

116. You must be talking about post #26, wasn't much to read and this was

What I was replying. It was not a good response in a Missionary Baptist church but who knows perhaps they learned something.

[roguevalley]

119. drop downs kill me. :)

[Art_from_Ark]

48. It's Churchgate!

[asuhornets]

92. what horrible thing to say..

your hatred is coming out of your pores.

[polly7]

99. Why is it horrible?

That's not hatred. It's acknowledging that actions caused human suffering for millions - including children. And again in Libya, and Honduras. Pushing for a no-fly-zone for Syria that would cause the same. Pushing the propaganda against Iran that will guarantee even more of the same if it's accepted, as it was for Iraq.

Maybe the hatred is for 'brown children' as 'collateral damage'?

[asuhornets]

105. Those pictures have nothing to do with Hillary..

Bush declared war in Iraq for no reason. That guilt is on him not Hillary. Your rationalization makes no sense.

[polly7]

107. Your reply isn't worth the time you took to type it. nt.

[fun n serious]

106. Hi Polly! :)

We met on another board when the whole Iraq slaughter had just gone down. I miss you, my friend.

[polly7]

110. Hi Fun!!

I've missed you too! It's so good to see you.

Do you remember the stuff we went through there, omg. Btw ... I still haven't had Hussein's baby!

How are you doing?!

[fun n serious]

120. How can I forget!?

I wish they had't taken that board down! I would have loved to say " I told you so" to some of those RW nutjobs we had to deal with. AlwaysRiiight1, 2 3 & 4, SassyPants (she was an idiot) and others. I've developed thick skin since then. I let it all roll off my shoulders now. Let me know if you need a midwife for that baby! I know some good people.

[polly7]

121. Whoa .... those names bring back memories.

My skin has gotten pretty thick since then too, though it sure wasn't when I first signed up. I think I was banned at least 5 times. Those people actually made me cry. It's funny now, though. I will definitely give you a shout when my little bubba/bubette gets here.

[pangaia]

154. Looks to me like laughter.

Like this here...

[juxtaposed]

4. Like a true champion, she hung in there till the end

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

129. Yes, Hillary hangs in there til the end, just like with her Wall Street buddies.

Think I'll stick with Bernie, the authentic progressive in this race, thank you very much.

Bernie & Elizabeth 2016!!!

[vercetti2021]

5. Okay

I mean it isn't a synagogue...

[PatrickforO]

6. Another way to look at it is that Bernie is less hypocritical.

He got them to agree to allow him to come in and address the congregation, and then left when he was done. I don't see this as being disrespectful. The guy's a secular Jew, for gosh sake. I think it would be FAR more hypocritical for him, given that, to stay for the whole thing than to simply speak, pay respects and leave.

[SamKnause]

7. Disrespectful to speak to high school students ???

I guess you would be okay if he left to attend a Goldman Sachs

$2,700.00 a plate fundraiser.

The man is running for president.

He has a schedule.

He is trying to meet as many people as possible.

If I understand correctly, Hillary has missed the last 3 events

held to address the issues black people have.

[peacebird]

29. But she has the blackmvote tied up, why would she bother talking to them about their issues?

[beam me up scottie]

8. Maybe he should have screwed the people waiting for him at the rally like she did?

Hillary Clinton angers Iowa fans who waited hours for five-minute speech

Not even a special performance by singer Demi Lovato improved the mood of some supporters who were unimpressed by Democratic candidate’s brevity

Hillary Clinton left her audience cold in Iowa City on Thursday night, after she spoke for less than five minutes to a crowd of more than a thousand people, some of whom had lined up for more than an hour to see her.

***

But Clinton did not refer to the Vermont senator, or much else, in her speech. The lack of length and substance of her address appeared to upset some in the crowd.

“It was like a political commercial,” said Allison Steigerwald, a 24-year-old graduate student at the university. “I thought she was saying goodbye to Demi and then she’d start her speech. But it never happened.”

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jan/22/hillary-clinton-angers-iowa-fans-who-waited-hours-for-five-minute-speech

Bernie had a commitment to honour and he kept it, it's a shame you don't recognize how important that is but not surprising. Some people value a sense of honour and decency and others don't.

[Warren DeMontague]

15. But it was a CHURCH!

Wink wink nudge nudge

[beam me up scottie]

16. BERNIE HAS NO CENTS OF DECENCY!!1! ARGLE BARGLE!

Yeah I caught the dog whistle too.

How much lower will the op go?

[Warren DeMontague]

18. We Jews are only required to stay for the first half, anyway.

[beam me up scottie]

21. Well there you go!

[CoffeeCat]

34. Bwhahaha!! Perfect!! (nt)

[tazkcmo]

41. Well played!!!

I dedicate my next cup of coffee to you!

[Ruby the Liberal]

47. !!

[MuseRider]

64. I just showed this

to my husband who is a Secular Jew and he laughed. Thanks.

This thread is full of win, we are having a good laugh here. You folks are so funny and quick!

[Paulie]

73. Ha!!!!

Well played!!!

[Generic Other]

74. Oh My God!

And amen.

[Mike__M]

81. Dang it burns

when I blow coffee out my nose. Thanks alot Warren!

[CentralMass]

82. :-)

[Matariki]

89. LOL

[mountain grammy]

101. Of course!

[Manifestor_of_Light]

147. Only for the first one-eighth of the Old Testament.

The Pentateuch. The Five Books of Moses. Five out of 39. That's all.

[Divernan]

9. Hillary gate-crashed Bernie's visit to that church to begin with

Hillary gate-crashes Bernie's campaign stops! How desperate is that?

Given the opportunity to speak, Bernie addressed issues, HRC used it as an opportunity to attack her opponent. How un-Christian of Methodist-raised Hillary. And I have no doubt that Bernie, who is unfailingly polite, explained to people why he was leaving.

And I really hope the sermon was on throwing the money-changers out of the Temple! That would have made Hillary squirm.

Sanders, along with his wife Jane and some members of his staff, entered the Victory Missionary Baptist Church after Clinton was already seated and waiting. The two candidates sat on opposite sides of the packed church, both in the front row, and each listened as the other addressed the crowd. Rep. John Lewis accompanied Clinton.

Pastor Fowler of Victory Baptist Church told his lively congregation, "I am encouraged by the fact that (they) were willing to come sit in the same church, same service, same time."

He said that the Sanders campaign contacted the church first about attending the service this particular Sunday, and so although Sanders arrived second, he spoke first.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/hillary-clinton-bernie-sanders-attend-service-las-vegas/story?id=36937336

Clinton stayed for the entire service and Sanders left early, heading to a rally at a nearby high school.

Pastor Robert E. Fowler thanked both the candidates for coming, noting that he was "encouraged by the fact that they are willing to sit in the same church, same service, same time." After both candidates spoke, Fowler asked Sanders and Clinton to stand as the congregants prayed for them.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/14/politics/bernie-sanders-hillary-clinton-church/index.html

[bravenak]

14. Gate crashed? Oh my this is funny stuff

[Divernan]

17. I think the pastor handled the situation very diplomatically.

Poor guy probably expected both candidates to deport themselves accordingly for being in a church, and not descend into personal attacks. Guess he didn't know Hillary that well.

Clinton went on to deliver much more politically charged remarks than Sanders -- hitting her opponent for his focus on the "rigged" economy and "corrupt" political system.

Stay classy, Hillary!

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/hillary-clinton-bernie-sanders-attend-service-las-vegas/story?id=36937336

[bravenak]

19. Did she?

[berni_mccoy]

44. Wow that is disgusting. She should know that would backfire

[Autumn]

61. As always Bernie focuses on the issues and Hillary focuses on anything but the issues

"I am not a single issue candidate and this is not a single issue country," Clinton "Because if we were going to achieve everything about banks and money and politics, would that end racism? Would that make it automatically going to happen that people will be able to get the jobs they deserve, the housing the need, the education their children should have?

Quite the difference, one asks what good would it do to try and help those in need and the other says we must help those in need.

"Some of us believe that what God teaches us what this world is about is that we do not turn our backs on our brothers or our sisters," Sanders said. "Essentially, we are in this together."

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

131. Can you really blame Hillary for doing that when she's losing on the issues that matter to regular folks?

Bernie & Elizabeth 2016!!!

[mhatrw]

50. "I'll see your Baptist Church, Bernie, and I'll even bring some of them to heel!" Clinton

[grasswire]

79. BOOM! nt

[840high]

157. Haha!!!

[Live and Learn]

71. +10,000 nt

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

130. Hey, they say imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.

Bernie & Elizabeth 2016!!!

[Beacool]

133. Hillary came with John Lewis. I doubt that they gate-crashed.

What a petty comment.

[Katashi_itto]

10. Lol, just when I think you guys have hit the bottom of the barrel...

[Divernan]

13. The magical bottomless barrel!

It's like looking into the abyss, isn't it?

[Katashi_itto]

20. Pretty much. If they devoted half their energy to real policies, real solutions,

they wouldnt be having a revolution on their hands.

[Warren DeMontague]

11. meh

[bravenak]

12. I used to leave church during intermission

To smoke blunts by the Liquor store then hurry back before I got caught. I got caught all the time and put in the corner.

[Warren DeMontague]

22. That sounds exactly like my Sunday mornings

Except for the church part.

[bravenak]

23. I gave the church part up

It was a three blunt ordeal. Just to show up to check out each other outfits. Well, we did have cake and chicken and ribs and greens after wards. Pecan pie. Sock it to me cake. 7up cake. Delicious cookies. Ham. Um, I think I went for the food.

[Warren DeMontague]

24. Nice and high, I could definitely see the appeal of that.

[bravenak]

25. I loved it

Even when I got kicked out of Sunday School for asking questions. I was high, and they were lying.

[CentralMass]

91. That's sounds delicious.

[bravenak]

94. It was, I loved church

[CentralMass]

111. It does provide a sense of community. I miss it myself.

[mariawr]

67. Now stop it, you two. You had too much fun on Sunday mornings. nt

[PonyUp]

27. Hillary stayed to case the collection plates. nt

[grntuscarora]

32. lol just choked on my bagel.

[JackRiddler]

70. hee hee

[asuhornets]

28. I agree...n/t

[stone space]

30. "heading to a rally at a nearby high school"

If you need further help in reading the portion of the article that you quoted, please let me know, and I'll be happy to be of assistance.



By the way, I'm looking forward to reading about some future Bernie visit to a Catholic Mass, and the resulting complaints about him not taking Holy Communion.

I'm sure that one is next.

[CoffeeCat]

31. LeavingChurchEarly-Gate. Oh the humanity! LOL! (nt)

[RiverLover]

35. They finally found a legitimate reason to vote against Bernie!!

Woot! #LeavingChurchEarlyGate

They must be so relieved.

[restorefreedom]

33. heaven forbid he keep a schedule...

and fwiw, many catholics routinely leave their own services early, so much so that it has become a talked about issue of priests.

https://www.ewtn.com/library/Liturgy/zlitur231.htm

but its easier to insinuate bernie has no respect for others. or its the jewish thing, right? grasping at character smearing antisemitic straws, much?

unrec.

[firebrand80]

36. This obviously isn't a big deal, but

it is a small detail that is important to some people. Not in the sense that they'll carry it to the ballot box, just in overall impressions of the candidates.

[Bad Thoughts]

37. I would have left too

As a Jew, I know how uncomfortable it can be to attend the services of another religion. You don't do anything, you can't do anything, and you know not how to do anything. Whenever I am invited to some service--a wedding, christening, funeral--I specifically ask that I be seated at the back-most row so that people cannot notice that I am not singing, not reciting, not kneeling, and not holding a book at the same time as everyone else. There is a lot of discussion about theology (the nature of G-d) that just not only not present in Judaism, but which Jews actively resist because of the prohibition against idolatry. Not to mention that Christian services are generally more reverential and disciplined than what Jews would expect.

[cherokeeprogressive]

38. Faint.

[Vinca]

39. Bernie's a nonpracticing Jew. Why should he stay if it isn't sincere?

I'm an atheist. I might have gone to hear Bernie speak and then I would have left, too. If you don't believe the message, sitting in the pew is nothing more than a phony act of political pandering.

[TheSarcastinator]

57. it's supposed to serve as a not-so-subtle reminder

that Bernie ain't an Xtian, like Hillary & all other good, patriotic 'Merikans. He is a Jewish Socialist-Communist!!!!

[Lucinda]

128. Why speak at a church at all then? n/t

[thesquanderer]

155. Because there are voters to reach. (n/t)

[jberryhill]

40. With Bernie behaving like that...

...then I can definitely understand the justification for eliminating the ban on lobbyist money to the DNC.

[cyberswede]

42. Did he wag his finger on his way out the door?

[Inkfreak]

43. This is starting to get to parody type levels at this site...

[The Blue Flower]

45. It would have been hypocritical for him to stay

nt

[Nonhlanhla]

46. I'm a Hillary supporter

but I just don't see the problem here. Personally, when I attend services of another religion, I observe but don't participate, but I prefer to stay for the duration. But if Bernie had to leave, I just don't think it's a big deal. He is a non-religious Jew. Hillary is an observant Christian. It makes more sense for her to stay. I just don't see this as an issue.

Although I'm sure Bernie fans would freak out if they had attended synagogue and Hillary had left early.

[Matariki]

104. I'm pretty sure Bernie fans would not care less if Clinton left a synagogue early

The majority of us care about actual issues.

[Nonhlanhla]

113. I'm sorry

But that does not match what I've seen here.

[AgingAmerican]

49. Sanders isn't Christian

[riversedge]

59. Bernie was just pandering.

[Ford F-150]

75. By definition

Neither is Hillary...

[whistler162]

51. OH NOES.... Churchgate will get the Bernie!!!!!

Don't know which I will vote for in the primary, but both sides on DU have jumped in to the fertilizer pile with both feet!

[mindem]

53. She was waiting for a $150,000 check

like so many of her other speaking gigs.

[TheSarcastinator]

54. ....and Team Shillary officially moves from not-so-subtle Red Baiting to

not-so-subtle Jew baiting. Next up: Bernie drinks the blood of Christian children!

[Bad Thoughts]

55. That's why he left: to skip Eucharist. eom.

[JRLeft]

56. I would have never attended religion is man made.

[bettyellen]

100. I hate how the voters expect them to pander. Atheists like me are fucked.

[JRLeft]

102. I hate pandering, I don't believe in fairy-tales.

Rational thinking, I will believe in God when someone provides evidence and not faith.

[bettyellen]

114. Yup.

[gollygee]

58. This is common among candidates when campaigning.

I am sure she has left things she would have otherwise stayed for because of her schedule too. This is ridiculous. I am tired of hearing silly stuff brought up by one side or the other. There are actual issues being discussed.

[DefenseLawyer]

60. Bernie Sanders lacks common decency.

The Clinton campaign, ladies and gentlemen. Enjoy it in all its glorious splendor.

[Nedsdag]

62. So he's damned if he stayed, and damned if he left.

This is getting really petty.

[JRLeft]

115. The Bible talks about a talking Bush, Snake, and a man living in a fish for 3 days. Why stick around

for that? LMFAO!

Oh yeah a man who put 2 of every animal on the planet on a raft.

[Kip Humphrey]

63. Is this the failed meme of the day?

because it is way to stupid to be anything else.

[mariawr]

68. "Failed meme of the day." Too funny and true. nt

[Matariki]

85. Updates straight from her social media group?

http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/11/politics/clinton-campaign-social-media/index.html

In an email to supporters on Wednesday, Clinton's digital organizing director, Jess Morales Rocketto, asked for help making sure her message was "coming through loud and clear" on Facebook and Twitter. The email asks supporters to join a group that will get updates from Clinton's campaign headquarters about what to post on social media.

The email is also a tacit acknowledgment that Clinton's campaign is having trouble matching the size of Bernie Sanders' online community, particularly in tweeting about big moments in the election campaign.

"This election is heating up, and you should be right in the thick of it," she wrote. "During big moments of the campaign, it's our job to get on Twitter and Facebook and make sure Hillary's message (and our support for her!) is coming through loud and clear."

[Kip Humphrey]

96. funny how Bernie's social media is full of original thinking and creativity of Bernie's supporters.

[Matariki]

98. Yup. Definitely not in the "please clap" zone.

[michaz]

65. Oh for Pete's sake! Are you kidding me? He had somewhere to be. This is ridiculous.

[JackRiddler]

69. And you think this is losing him votes?

I'll take the people who want to leave church early, over those who want to sit through the whole thing, and we'll see who wins.

Must be tough, trying to devise reasons why Sanders is a bad man!

Imagine if he'd been late to the school:

BERNIE MAKES INNOCENT SCHOOLCHILDREN WAIT FOR HIM!!!

(What was the weather in NV yesterday? Either way works: "IN THE COLD!!!" or "IN THE HEAT!!!" That monster.)

[noretreatnosurrender]

90. lol

I bet he has overdue library books too. What's next...he puts the toilet paper roll on the wrong way?

[left lowrider]

72. This is the kind of silly stuff that makes me think we "deserve" Hillary

You think THIS something to do with church indicates someones "sincerity"

. . . you want a friend . . . not a president.

[noretreatnosurrender]

76. lol

Is this a serious post?

[Matariki]

77. You know he's Jewish, right?

Why don't YOU show some respect?

[jillan]

78. Take your Bernie is a Jew whisper campaign

Somewhere else.
Disgusting.

[beam me up scottie]

80. ^^^THIS^^^

That dog whistle's getting louder all the time.

[Marr]

88. Exactly. Same HRC shit, different primary.

[840high]

158. x+100

[JI7]

83. who gives a shit

[Kalidurga]

84. Kickin and wrecking cuz this deserves a lot of visibility

If this is all ya got Hillary is gonna lose and she will lose big.

[Marr]

86. Hillary Supporters Demand Jewish Man Worship Like a Christian

[m-lekktor]

93. That's what I was thinking. nt

[Eric J in MN]

135. +1 (NT)

NT

[NowSam]

87. Your user name...How can you be for HRC

She isn't liberal. Also, Bernie is Jewish. Why does it seem insincere that he would stay for the whole service?

[ProudToBeLiberal]

136. I am a liberal and I support Hillary Clinton. Nt

[NowSam]

139. How is that possible? nt

[ProudToBeLiberal]

140. I supported Howard Dean in 2004. Nt

[noamnety]

95. You can't really compare their actions

because unlike Bernie she doesn't have a ton of people waiting to hear her speak.

[noretreatnosurrender]

97. Hello - Hello

I think ProudToBeLiberal left the building. They haven't posted anything since the original post.

[ProudToBeLiberal]

137. Hi. Nt

[noretreatnosurrender]

103. This Has To Be Satire

This has to be satire. I can't imagine anyone would be serious with this post. It's great satire though. I laughed like crazy over it because I've seen so many threads that are close to being just like this. Thanks for the laughs.

[immoderate]

108. Was god's will fulfilled?

Can it not be?

--imm

[noretreatnosurrender]

112. They were serious - wow

The person who started this thread also posted this thread.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511243565

I guess they really were serious about this post. Wow.

[Matariki]

123. Oh yeah

ProudToBeLiberal's been on a roll today. You probably do best to treat this stuff like parody, it'll keep you sane. Welcome to DU

[noretreatnosurrender]

149. Wow

Thanks for the welcome. This thread just blows my mind. I told people at work about it and they all shook their heads (even the Hillary supporters).

[GuardianOne]

117. Bernie

Bernie left to do God's work. He never has needed to sit in a church to do it. He's been doing it all his life. You don't need organized religion to be a decent person.
Amen.

[Bohemianwriter]

118. Maybe Hillary was waiting around...

to loiter for a dollar from the collect? #Iamseriousmaddie

[workinclasszero]

122. More red meat for the republicans to use against Bernie

Should he be the democratic nominee.

It really amateur hour in the BS camp. They are writing the attack commercials for the teabaggers!

[AgingAmerican]

125. Cuz people care so much about these non issues!

[workinclasszero]

132. Maybe you don't care but

There are millions of voters who do. Oh well Bernie keeps blindly stumbling along.

[AgingAmerican]

134. Then there goes the Religious right vote!

[workinclasszero]

141. Yeah all those teabaggers Bernies fans are claiming

Are going to vote for Bernie will desert him when the republicans open fire on him in the general if he gets that far.

[AgingAmerican]

142. Teabaggers will never vote for a Democrat

If you could be bothered to watch Sanders speech to Liberty U, you would understand, but you won't so I'm not wasting anymore time on you.

[workinclasszero]

143. Good don't waste time on fellow democrats

Keep chasin after the right wing...here's a clue for you...it's a trap!

[AgingAmerican]

144. Nobody is chasing the right wing

Except Hillary

[workinclasszero]

145. I see posts every day on here about republicans

Suddenly seeing the light and becoming true Bernie believers.

[AgingAmerican]

146. List the right wing issues Sanders attracts Republican votes with

Thanks in advance

[AgingAmerican]

124. Yay! More nothingness non issues from Hillary supporters! Yay!

[The Traveler]

126. You can't be actually serious

Or expect anyone to make up their minds based on this kind of cheese substitute.

Trav

[ProudToBeLiberal]

138. Do you think I am serious? Nt

[Jester Messiah]

127. Do you suppose some people get paid by the post?

And if so, what's the going rate?

[SoLeftIAmRight]

148. unemployed lady sits in church while a leader gets to work

...

[smiley]

150. another reason to support Bernie over Hillary

[PeteSelman]

151. I'd have more respect if neither attended.

I respect Bernie more for leaving.

So, you know, there's that.

[Stand and Fight]

152. What a rubbish attack...

This is petty and not well thought out. So what if he left early? It's like you're looking for things to attack him by at this rate!

[raging moderate]

153. He probably had no idea how long the service would last.

As a Methodist, Hillary would be more familiar with these things. As a Jew, Bernie would have no way of knowing how long we usually like to linger in that sanctuary.

[Politicalboi]

156. OMG!!!!!!

How can I support Bernie now.

I'll just have to sum it up as at least Bernie had the decency not to bomb innocent people in 2003, while Hillary didn't have the decency to do her homework. Maybe she went to church.