Clinton will be DESTROYED w/the truth and a good portion of the Democratic Party along with her.

[Skwmom]

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I watched some of the Fox Voter Revolt show Yes I know it was on Fox but the EXACT sentiment expressed by the former Hillary Supporter that supported her in 08 (and that was interviewed) is what I have also seen other former Hillary supporters say.

The woman said that Clinton is corrupt and the more she learned the more DISGUSTED she became. You try to paint what people feel as hate, but it is not hate. It is UTTER DISGUST with her actions (and those of Bill). Add to that a review of their record and the damage it has wrought and the disgust level increases.

As pointed out on Face the Nation a couple of weeks back the INVESTIGATION of Hillary will begin in the general election. If they didn't want to run against Clinton there are a lot of facts they could have disclosed in primary ads BUT they have not. It is because they know they can destroy her in the general election and a good part of the party with her.

Update: And how do you think that is going to impact Obama's legacy? I think many will end up furious with Clinton over the damage it will do to Obama.

[Jarqui]

1. I generally agree

I think they're playing possum with the Clinton Foundation. How could stuff like that come out and not be investigated? Timing. I think it's all about timing so she can't clear her name in time before the general election.

[Skwmom]

2. It is more than the Clinton Foundation. And there is no Clearing Her Name with the general public.

It gets to a point where NO AMOUNT of spin will work.

[Ino]

4. Yup. She is flawed & compromised...

and it's all her own doing.

[Jarqui]

11. I agree. She already has a low ceiling and a significant percentage will never

vote for her

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

27. Not to worry... thankfully, we have Bernie to carry the progressive flag!

Bernie & Elizabeth 2016!!!

[99th_Monkey]

24. I think it recently came out that the Clinton Foundation IS now part of the investigation

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/265402-report-fbi-expanding-clinton-investigation-to-look-into-public-corruption

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

31. I don't think that investigation will go anywhere... that is, assuming Hillary was successful in wiping her server clean.

[Jarqui]

46. I don't have complete faith in that right leaning site

But when you have 100-150 FBI agents looking through your 30,000 deleted emails ... and the Clinton Cash book plus media articles ... it wouldn't shock me

[Dustlawyer]

39. Dont forget how they will demand to see her Wall Street speeches.

Trump can make this demand without hurting himself, the other establishment republicans not so much. I am sure they gave the same type of speech to the big banks.

We should not let Hillary off of the hook for her hypocrisy and lies. We know she can NEVER release the transcripts, much like Romney's tax returns. Trust is the big issue with Hillary, if she told them to "cut it out" she could prove it to us. It is an issue we have a right to know in deciding whether she should be the leader of the free world. She says she will be tough on Wall Street and reign them in, putting her speeches to Wall Street in issue. Since she made the statements, she has to put up or shut up!

[Jarqui]

48. I agree that her non-disclosure under these circumstance can be perceived as

a confession.

The Wall Streeters are mostly Republican. What if one of them made a recording ... tit for tat on Romney's 47% ...

[Fumesucker]

3. There is a Firenado just hanging and waiting for the general to engulf Hillary and the party

Sanders is a shield for the Democrats, not that they really deserve it but we don't deserve the Republicans or at least not all of us.

[randome]

5. I hear Holy Water will have the same effect.

[hr][font color="blue"][center]Aspire to inspire.[/center][/font][hr]

[BillZBubb]

6. You saw it on Faux! Then it must be true!!!!!

I'm a Bernie supporter but this just goes beyond the pale. Of course the repugs have stuff on Hillary they haven't used yet: Did you know she took a bathroom break during BENGHAZI?!!!! Or she used her State Department EMAILS to set up a hair appointment?!!!! Or the CLINTON FOUNDATION got money from rich people?!!!!

This kind of crap in not worth paying attention to. Don't forget the repugs have stuff on Bernie they haven't used yet as well.

[Skwmom]

7. I have TALKED to former Hillary supporters that have voiced the same sentiments and also new voters

for that matter.

[CorkySt.Clair]

14. Everybody thinks they're Nostradamus

[LW1977]

17. Bernie bros have no idea what the GOP has in store for him if he wins..

I'm seriously thinking that some of these "Bernie Supporters" are Freeper trolls pretending to be Bernie supporters! We need Moderators, not Jurors!

[Old Codger]

23. You Sir/Madam

Are seriously deluded

[daleanime]

33. You found me out....

I'm the Manchurian Poster.

[frylock]

37. It will be smooth sailing once Bernie gets past the Clinton slime machine.

We saw this same shit play out in 2008. Republicans won't throw anything at Bernie that Hillary and her trained monkey, David Brock, haven't thrown already.

[Arugula Latte]

42. Yes, he is in Big Granola's back pocket.

Shameful, shameful.

[geardaddy]

56. LOL

Love it!

Those Granola Barons are evil!

[mikehiggins]

26. Oh, really? Like what, for example.

What the GOPukes "have" on Sanders is their willingness to lie about anything to gain any sort of advantage. Is it possible that Sanders is lily pure and totally unaccustomed to making deals to do something? Possible, possibly, but hardly likely.

On the other hand, as poor Mr. Capehart discovered, making claims about Sanders is not wise unless you line up your ducks before you open your mouth.

Sanders, to the amazement of many, is pretty much an honest politician. The Clinton camp, for example, tried to claim his work for the Democratic Senators was corrupt. He went to holiday resorts and sat by the hot pool with lobbyists. Who did Hillary vacation with? Kissinger?

Like Riddick said, they don't know who their fucking with.

[randys1]

29. THe hundreds of millions of dollars the right has unleahsed over the decades to

destroy Hillary is sadly working

Look around DU, endless attacks of her.

If get a GOP government I will blame them and I will be pretty fucking angry too

[daleanime]

35. The republican's controlled Hillary's vote on the Iraq War?

[randys1]

41. AS someone who's family sacrificed for that war, I am no more happy about her vote

than anyone else.

Has little to do with making sure we have a Dem in the WH, hoping Bernie but if not, then absolutely Hillary

eos

[daleanime]

44. So there reasons for people to dislike candidate Clintion...

not just republican reasons?

[randys1]

45. Of course, which is why I support Bernie, until or unless he loses

[daleanime]

51. Then I must have misunderstood your previous post....

it seemed to imply that the only reasons for disliking her candidacy were republican fiction, my apologizes.

[frylock]

38. Yeah, that must be what it is.

[cosmicone]

8. Meh ... such gasps are laughable. n/t

[DemocratSinceBirth]

10. Opinions masquerading as facts make the best argument said no one ever./nt

[Ichingcarpenter]

9. Future headline: "Hillary downplays loss in General Election

Blames somebody.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

32. Noooo.. Future headline: "President Sanders pardons Hillary for national security breaches."

Bernie & Elizabeth 2016!!!

[restorefreedom]

12. i am surprised at the presidents support

he has to know how this will taint his record, even if he didn't do anything to participate in her wrongdoings.

shortsightedness and pride, goeth before the fall....

[DemocraticWing]

13. I think her scandals are mostly noise, but the specter of indictment worries me.

If Hillary is the nominee and gets indicted in the middle of the general election, it doesn't matter if she's innocent...it will destroy the party in the eyes of the voters.

We could end up with a President Rubio, and a Republican filibuster-proof majority. They could completely control the state governments of 35 states. They could pack the Supreme Court.

It could turn this country into hell.

[TTUBatfan2008]

15. Sad thing is...

...Bernie is helping her and the party sweep the email/foundation thing under the rug by declaring he is tired of hearing about it. I understand he wants to avoid going into this territory, but the Republicans will most certainly not avoid it. The moderators of the debate didn't even bring up the news about the foundation subpoena earlier in the day. Even if nothing comes of it at the end of the day, as long as the investigation is open it will be a vulnerability against the GOP during the general election campaign.

[jalan48]

16. If it's Hillary vs. Trump, Hillary will win because he's beyond awful.

Maybe that was the set up all along.

[OrwellwasRight]

19. Nobody ever went broke . .

Nobody ever went broke underestimating the taste of the American public.


-HL Mencken

It Can't Happen Here (or can it?)

http://www.amazon.com/Cant-Happen-Here-Signet-Classics/dp/0451465644

[mikehiggins]

30. One of the best books I ever read as a kid

Really opened my eyes to how things are rarely what they seem, and if this Nation is to fall, it will fall from within.

Trump, Cruz, Rubio, Bush, Kasich

I rest my case

[Bonhomme Richard]

18. Fool me once shame on you.......

Fool me twice.....
My problem with Hillary started with Bill. I thought that I was voting for a progressive and ended up voting for a corporatist that helped drag the party to the right.
Hillary has not gone out of her way to distance herself from that. As a matter of fact she has gone deeper into the abyss.
I have had enough.

[Dems to Win]

20. The Clintons have cashed in on their public service, BIG TIME, and now she wants our votes.

Sleazy, greedy, and out of touch. No way can she win a general election. Our Democratic leaders aren't even trying to win this thing. The people have to take control and make sure our nominee is Bernie.

[SCantiGOP]

21. Thanks for the uplifting message

I would have questioned your HYPERBOLE but your use of all caps convinced me of your certainty.

[zeemike]

22. Obama is responsible for Obama's legacy.

But I agree with all the rest of that.

[Persondem]

25. And you are presenting just as many facts as that woman on Fox (really, Fox?)

It is fashionable in some circles to be anti-Clinton. Reasons and reality don't enter into it.

[Thinkingabout]

28. As long as the facts are truthful and not RW talking points I am not concerned,

she has been vetted for years, has passed the tests.

[Skwmom]

34. Facts are facts. The people can connect the dots. They are not as stupid as

you think.

[Thinkingabout]

36. Maybe the stupid part is incorrect, I don't fall for the RW talk show talking points

and I am capable of making my decisions and I also look at other candidates stupid must apply to others than myself.

[EdwardBernays]

54. If you think it's only right wing talking points

Then you're fooling yourself..

Because even a lot of Hillary supporters think she's corrupt. As do many many many liberals.

There's really only two groups that aren't either convinces she's corrupt or dishonest - at the very least - and that people that haven't done their research and people that dismiss everything out of some delusion that Hillary is just one victim of endless smears... And that that IS a delusion.

[Thinkingabout]

59. Since I am a liberal I do not share your opinion just as you would not share my opinion of breaching

of databases and other underhanded statements and deeds of the Sanders campaign. The non scandals the RW has tried to prove for years on the Clintons is not proof to me. BTW, the GOP vetting has not begun on Sanders.

[EdwardBernays]

62. lol

comparing the one thing Sanders staffers did to years of gross corruption Clinton and her husband have been involved in is laughable.

And pretending that only right-wingers think that is a joke.

You really either haven't done due diligence or are unwilling to get past your Hillary obsession.

Hillary is like a guy standing or a dead body, covered in blood, with a knife in her hand, saying, "technically you can't prove I killed that guy"... which is TRUE, until you realise she keeps showing up covered in blood, standing over bodies, maintaining her "technical innocence".

Technically she's not corrupt. And technically OJ never killed anyone.

When you ACTUALLY look though, the ENDLESS evidence of her corruption is staggering... and guess what, it's ALL going to come out... and all those people that distrust her now, their ranks will be swelled by millions more... because she is NOT trustworthy, and is corrupt.

[Thinkingabout]

64. Oh, so you bring Bill into the fray, that opens the door to bringing in Jane, talk about

corruption, I will take the Clintons. Maybe Jane should get vetted also. I distrust the Sanders.

[EdwardBernays]

67. you distrust them

based on LITERALLY nothing... paranoia maybe... who knows..

And yes, please please vet her post-haste.

And then, let's all imagine the ads the GOP is going to start running showing all the times weapons manufacturers who had deals approved by Hillary as SOS were also paying Bill hundreds of thousands in speaking fees.

Because there's a LOT of examples.

Remember that the guy that owns one of the largest DC Lobbying firms, which also donates hundreds of grand to Hillary, and who is Hillary's Campaign Chairman, was also Bill's Chief of Staff. While owning that lobbying firm. A firm represents big pharma, weapons manufacturers and wonderful countries like Saudi Arabia.

That's right, Hillary's campaign chairman owns a lobby firm which represents Saudi Arabia. And that same firm donates oodles of money to her campaign.

And what was it you were saying about Jane again?

[Thinkingabout]

74. Yes, perhaps paranoia plays a part of the distrust and corruptions of the Clintons, thanks

for pointing this fact in the open.

[John Poet]

77. Pure as the driven snow

[bettyellen]

72. Ironically this blitz against Clinton originates from RW superpacs. I thought integrity mattered!

[Thinkingabout]

73. Just in some cases.

[bettyellen]

75. the bitterness toward anyone not endorsing Bernie is short sighted and way too negative.

[Thinkingabout]

76. I will continue to support the most qualified candidate in the 2016 presidential races, both GOP and

DNC.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

40. The party will be RESTORED to what it's supposed to be....

There are a LOT of right wingers in DC who were looking forward to making a home in our party who will now go the way of Holy Joe.

[asuhornets]

43. your words:

"I watched some of the Fox Voter Revolt show Yes I know it was on Fox but.." Enough said!!! Anything said after that, I take with a grain of salt.

[99Forever]

47. Clinton has enjoyed a lovefest in this primary....

...compared to the shitstorm that will hit her if the Dems are foolish enough to nominate her.

[Vinca]

49. Democrats shouldn't have cleared the path for her.

We deserved more choices, not a coronation.

[navarth]

50. Hillary's problem is not smears from the right

...it is facts from the left that hurt her, sorry to say.

[EdwardBernays]

55. the facts are non-partisan

and they make her look like a crook.

[navarth]

65. I understand

I'm not going to get into name-calling, because I think we're better than that. But I totally feel ya.

It's hard to differ from someone who has such a cool user name. I wonder if people know about Bernays?

[EdwardBernays]

68. a few :)

mostly angry Clinton supporters that google it and then use it to try and attack me... lol.

[retrowire]

52. the investigation of Hillary will begin during the general??

really???

[Duval]

53. K&R. nt

[HassleCat]

57. How we could have a low turnout general election

It's possible many voters will not see much difference between Clinton and Trump, or Clinton and Cruz, or Clinton and Rubio, or... You get the idea. Remember, most voters don't care about the same stuff that gets us all excited. If they see a Democrat they perceive as in the pocket of one set of interests, running against a Republican they perceive as bought off by a different set of interests, they will look at those interests to see if anything aligns with what matters to them. If they see no common ground, they will stay home. As we know, low turnout elections are bad for Democrats, so we would lose even more at the state, county and local levels. What do you think? Is this a risk?

[Gmak]

58. K & R

[TeamPooka]

60. Thanks for the anti Democratic Party talking points from Fox News. Thread trashed. nt

[SoLeftIAmRight]

61. UTTER DISGUST

She has too much bad baggage - no chance in the general election. Wake up!

[Hekate]

63. And you are looking forward to that why?

I know you and your cohorts want to see Hillary ground into dogmeat, but why the glee at the prospect of the destruction of the Democratic Party? Because, you know, the pairing of the two, the all caps announcement, sound like glee to me.

[Skwmom]

69. If we were looking forward to it, we would remain silent and just let it happen.

It's like trying to stop a train wreck from happening.

[RufusTFirefly]

66. "(Clinton) registers particularly strong distaste among voters in key swing states..."

She registers particularly strong distaste among voters in key swing states, such as Pennsylvania, Ohio, Colorado, Florida, Virginia, and Iowa, that the Democratic Party has to win secure a presidential victory. The key attribute attached to her that attracts so much negative attention is her lack of “honesty” and “trustworthiness.”

Why Hillary Clinton Spells Democratic Party Defeat

[bettyellen]

70. Please stop carrying water for RW nut jobs on "Fox Voter Revolt". Come on now.

[bvar22]

78. Obama has done enough to destroy his own legacy.

The destruction of the most advanced country in North Africa by supporting the Black Flag rebels terrorists with AlQaeda connections who have since imposed Sharia Law.

Granting himself the power to assassinate anyone, anywhere without oversight or accountability (NDAA).
Can you imagine ANY Republican in the Oval Office with this power?

Expanding the Drone War to other countries

Promising a National Public Option and NO Mandate,
and delivering us into the clutches of the Health Insurance Industry instead

Covering for the criminals on Wall Street when the nation was outraged at the Bonuses they paid themselves with our Bailout Money

Turning his back on the "Army for Change", and then repeatedly ridiculing the same people who helped get him elected for wanting him to keep his promises, or at least make an effort at pretending to keep them

TPP (need I say more)

Becoming America's greatest "Drill, Baby, Drill" President

These are just a few.
Obama WILL be remembered as the first Black President.
Thats about all the legacy he hasn't sold off yet.