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Karmadillo

(9,253 posts)
Mon Feb 15, 2016, 06:27 PM Feb 2016

Playing the Victim Card, Hillary Clinton Betrays Women

http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/playing_the_victim_card_hillary_clinton_betrays_women_20160215

Playing the Victim Card, Hillary Clinton Betrays Women
Posted on Feb 15, 2016
By Alexa Sue Amore

February has been a tumultuous month for feminism. Former Secretary of State Madeleine Albright damned young women who prefer Bernie Sanders to Hillary Clinton, and Gloria Steinem dismissively attributed what she perceives as an irrational preference for Sanders among young women to their raging hormones. The following day she apologized “for what’s been misrepresented as implying young women aren’t serious in their politics” but failed to acknowledge the blatant sexism of her remarks, sinking her reputation as a feminist in the minds of many.

Meanwhile, the popular trivialization of Sanders’ supporters as “Bernie bros” and “Bernie-splainers” perpetuates Steinem’s misrepresentation of Sanders’ supporters as “boys” followed by brainless female groupies. Both Albright and Steinem accuse young women of treachery and abandonment for having their own political opinions, encouraging them to reverse their position out of a sense of shame and guilt.

Little surprise: The recent eruption of comments belittling young women’s mental faculties emanates directly from Clinton herself.

Whenever Sanders confronts her about her record, Clinton casts herself as the victim of a sexist brand of male condescension. Her defensive, faux-feminist tone derails meaningful conversation about the factual political differences between the two candidates, undercutting young women’s ability to meaningfully participate in the political process.

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Playing the Victim Card, Hillary Clinton Betrays Women (Original Post) Karmadillo Feb 2016 OP
She is a victim of Bill's sexual adventures outside of marriage, but it's not the Cleita Feb 2016 #1
From Larry Wilmore's Show last week: bvar22 Feb 2016 #2
Hillary Clinton's presidential campaigns are the worst thing to ever happen to Feminism. Odin2005 Feb 2016 #3
Yes! DamnYankeeInHouston Feb 2016 #7
Spot on MissDeeds Feb 2016 #16
I'm trying to remember if Elizabeth Warren ever makes Voice for Peace Feb 2016 #19
We know Wall St. is a boys club Hydra Feb 2016 #32
Makes me wonder why other women in politics are not doing this? passiveporcupine Feb 2016 #23
Yep. That's the sentiiment in my posts on this as well. cui bono Feb 2016 #33
Great read. K&R farleftlib Feb 2016 #4
"self-proclaimed victim of a smear campaign, she wallows in, rather than overcomes," snagglepuss Feb 2016 #29
Oh yes, Elizabeth Warren would be my dream candidate farleftlib Feb 2016 #30
not just with gender noiretextatique Feb 2016 #5
That's a really good point. beam me up scottie Feb 2016 #6
That was absolutely appalling. Hillary should be ashamed of herself for what she tried to do. pangaia Feb 2016 #12
I don't get how anyone thinks they can get one past Terry. Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2016 #21
K&R CharlotteVale Feb 2016 #8
Read that yesterday. Great stuff! SusanaMontana41 Feb 2016 #9
Supporting Hillary Clinton is wealth privilege fbc Feb 2016 #10
She is running for "the first woman president" instead of "president". thereismore Feb 2016 #11
wonder if Code Pink PatrynXX Feb 2016 #13
Maybe they'll #StandwithRand again... SidDithers Feb 2016 #18
+1 bravenak Feb 2016 #26
The irony of those calling out sexism on a regular basis being the sexists in this instance. jalan48 Feb 2016 #14
Thank you so very much for linking this article!!! chervilant Feb 2016 #15
Woman for Bernie Here. zentrum Feb 2016 #17
This woman for Bernie agrees! n/t Avalux Feb 2016 #24
I think the boys are following us! zentrum Feb 2016 #25
You got that right! Why does it have to be the other way around? Avalux Feb 2016 #28
^Troof^ AzDar Feb 2016 #20
She doesn't care for progressive women jfern Feb 2016 #22
K&R azmom Feb 2016 #27
Curious.... quickesst Feb 2016 #31

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
1. She is a victim of Bill's sexual adventures outside of marriage, but it's not the
Mon Feb 15, 2016, 06:29 PM
Feb 2016

one she wants to play.

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
2. From Larry Wilmore's Show last week:
Mon Feb 15, 2016, 06:37 PM
Feb 2016

"There is a special place in hell for women who don't help women who make up their OWN damned minds."

DamnYankeeInHouston

(1,365 posts)
7. Yes!
Mon Feb 15, 2016, 07:27 PM
Feb 2016

There is no way people would put up with her whining victim act if she were a guy. She has set the women's movement way back.

 

Voice for Peace

(13,141 posts)
19. I'm trying to remember if Elizabeth Warren ever makes
Mon Feb 15, 2016, 09:06 PM
Feb 2016

the point that she is also a woman?
Has she said that Wall Street hates girls?

Hydra

(14,459 posts)
32. We know Wall St. is a boys club
Tue Feb 16, 2016, 12:14 AM
Feb 2016

And that they hate her with a passion...but they are also afraid of her, and that's quite the accomplishment.

passiveporcupine

(8,175 posts)
23. Makes me wonder why other women in politics are not doing this?
Mon Feb 15, 2016, 09:33 PM
Feb 2016
the only person who I think would characterize me, a woman running to be the first woman president, as exemplifying the establishment


She is the only one I know of who keeps making an issue of herself being a woman. Tell that to all the women who have been in congress and have not used sexism to promote herself, or as a defense shield...or even black women who did not use sex or color for self-promotion or defense. Hillary comes from pretty high up on the white privilege ladder...she is not one who looks good doing this.

Plus, she is not even standing up for women's rights. Jump to 1:28, to 2:53 on the interview for her views on abortion.



At the end...she thinks she can get more cooperation from the republicans than Obama?

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
33. Yep. That's the sentiiment in my posts on this as well.
Tue Feb 16, 2016, 05:36 PM
Feb 2016

And yet the supposed staunch feminists on DU continue to back her because they seem to think feminism means backing a woman to achieve power even if she's playing the gender card to get there, simply because she is a woman and she must get the position even if it undermines the very essence of feminism to get her there.

Astounding.

.

 

farleftlib

(2,125 posts)
4. Great read. K&R
Mon Feb 15, 2016, 06:46 PM
Feb 2016
By cultivating an underdog persona, Clinton sends a harmful message that women in politics are too weak to participate in meaningful debate, and that female viewers will be too caught up in the glorious prospect of a female president to notice her reluctance to discuss the objectionable parts of her record.

As the self-proclaimed victim of a smear campaign, she wallows in, rather than overcomes, the male-dominated political establishment, insensitively invoking women’s shared experiences of sexism to avoid talking about issues.

Clinton and her supporters frequently downplay Sanders’ progressive agenda as too idealistic, while touting the conviction that the symbolic act of electing a female president will substantially improve women’s lives across the country. Many young women simply aren’t buying into this propaganda...

Perhaps women and society in general are skeptical of the glass-ceiling argument for electing Clinton because we have seen how that worked out with the first African-American president. The election of Barack Obama did not magically elevate the status of blacks in this country. It did not result in better education in black neighborhoods or end mass incarceration or keep the lead out of the water in Flint, Mich. The appeal of symbolic victories just does not hold up against reality.


She needs to answer these questions and stop whining, especially when we know she plays dirty.

snagglepuss

(12,704 posts)
29. "self-proclaimed victim of a smear campaign, she wallows in, rather than overcomes,"
Mon Feb 15, 2016, 11:21 PM
Feb 2016

and

"She needs to answer these questions and stop whining, especially when we know she plays dirty."

Two great lines from a terrific post that nails her. I wish Warren had run if only to demonstrate to Hillary and her supporters that her being female is irrelevant. Hillary wouldn't a stood a chance against Warren and Warren would never play the victim card.

 

farleftlib

(2,125 posts)
30. Oh yes, Elizabeth Warren would be my dream candidate
Mon Feb 15, 2016, 11:30 PM
Feb 2016

Check this out from the Huffpost article The Race to Lose the White House that WillyT posted:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/michael-brenner/the-race-to-lose-the-whit_b_9237006.html?utm_hp_ref=politics

Or, they could have rallied behind Elizabeth Warren. Admittedly, she wasn't interested. Just think, though, of what could have happened had she been persuaded to run. For one thing, she quickly would have eclipsed Hillary as the front runner. Razor sharp, personable, with a blue steel edge to her words, and resolute -- she likely would have delivered the Last Rites to Clinton by Super Tuesday. And then imagine her against any of the Republicans hopefuls whose only chance of winning turns on Clinton's negatives. A Warren -- Republican X contest, moreover, would have raised the prospect of a Democratic comeback across the board that it utterly beyond Clinton's capabilities.


Elizabeth Warren, additionally, is a woman who made her own way. She didn't become the Senator to a state she'd never lived in because of who her husband was. She earned her seat.

noiretextatique

(27,275 posts)
5. not just with gender
Mon Feb 15, 2016, 06:57 PM
Feb 2016

she accused Terry Gross of twisting her words when confronted with her evolution on gay marriage. she was against it, then for it...fine. but...she would not admit she was against it, instead, she played the victim. i cannot respect someone like that.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
12. That was absolutely appalling. Hillary should be ashamed of herself for what she tried to do.
Mon Feb 15, 2016, 08:22 PM
Feb 2016

I was embarrassed for Terri. She is a good interviewer, not a 'go for the juglar' type, but good..
Although, in this case she did keep on Clinton for a while..

I remember hearing her interview Rumsfeld and she just let him hang himself. :&gt )

 

fbc

(1,668 posts)
10. Supporting Hillary Clinton is wealth privilege
Mon Feb 15, 2016, 08:10 PM
Feb 2016

Maybe if was making more than 250k a year, had inherited money, or lived on a fat pension from back when fat pensions were still a thing, I'd be a Hillary Clinton supporter too.

But most of us do not have that luxury.

chervilant

(8,267 posts)
15. Thank you so very much for linking this article!!!
Mon Feb 15, 2016, 08:43 PM
Feb 2016

This, in particular, resonates for me:

Whenever Sanders confronts her about her record, Clinton casts herself as the victim of a sexist brand of male condescension. Her defensive, faux-feminist tone derails meaningful conversation about the factual political differences between the two candidates, undercutting young women’s ability to meaningfully participate in the political process.



Hi11ary DOES effect a defensive, faux-feminist tone, and I find it tiresome and disingenuous!

Go BERNIE!!!

#NotMeUs

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
17. Woman for Bernie Here.
Mon Feb 15, 2016, 08:51 PM
Feb 2016

Proves I'm wicked smart. And informed. And with a great bullshit detector.

No feminist sends us into Bush's War. Or touts the Welfare Reform Bill that fell extra hard on minority women.

jfern

(5,204 posts)
22. She doesn't care for progressive women
Mon Feb 15, 2016, 09:31 PM
Feb 2016

She endorsed the corrupt conservative male Cuomo over the ethical progressive female Teachout.

quickesst

(6,283 posts)
31. Curious....
Mon Feb 15, 2016, 11:37 PM
Feb 2016

"Meanwhile, the popular trivialization of Sanders’ supporters as “Bernie bros” and “Bernie-splainers” perpetuates Steinem’s misrepresentation of Sanders’ supporters as “boys” followed by brainless female groupies. Both Albright and Steinem accuse young women of treachery and abandonment for having their own political opinions, encouraging them to reverse their position out of a sense of shame and guilt."

Either Bernie knows these people are real, and need to be reined in, or he and his campaign or woefully out of touch.





Bernie Sanders Tells Berniebros To Knock It Off — ‘We Don’t Want That Crap’

Bernie Sanders (I-VT) had a terse message for any of his supporters who engage in online harassment: “We don’t want that crap.” He told CNN on Sunday that the so-called “Berniebro” phenomenon is “disgusting” and that “anybody who is supporting me that is doing the sexist things — we don’t want them.”
The “Berniebro” phenomenon, where a mob of online Sanders supporters attack politicians and writers who express views critical of the Vermont senator or supportive of his Democratic rival Secretary Hilary Clinton, launched numerous thinkpieces from journalists unfortunate enough to encounter them online. At their worst, Berniebros have accused Clinton supporters of voting “based on who had the vagina” and have invented novel sexist terms such as “clitrash.”
Meanwhile, the Sanders campaign has engaged in an escalating series of tactics trying to convince the Berniebros to cut it out. Sanders’ rapid response director asked the senator’s supporters to chill on Twitter:

http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2016/02/07/3746988/bernie-sanders-tells-berniebros-to-knock-it-off-we-dont-want-that-crap/

The Sanders campaign wants them to "cut it out".
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