2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumAfter Sen. Sanders introduced his Election Holiday legislation, what did he do to pass it?
This might be a good measure of what he'll do as President to get his ambitious agenda passed.
Did he call on his supporters to pressure their legislators?
Did he try to cut deals with Republicans to build support?
Did he make speeches to bring the issue to the public's attention?
daleanime
(17,796 posts)congress is just waiting to approve anything Hillary asks for......
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)bills passed. Makes you wonder what was happening.
think
(11,641 posts)What are their ideas to increase voter turnout? Are they implementing any plans or their own?
Why haven't I heard of any other plans by Democrats to make Election day a holiday?
Empowerer
(3,900 posts)For example, Bill Clinton signed the Motor Voter bill in 1993 (since Hillary's getting blamed for his legislation, she might as well get credit for it, as well). In 2006, the House and Senate overwhelmingly passed the Voting Rights Act extension. In recent years, Democrats and some Republicans have been fighting to update the Voting Rights Act in response to the Supreme Court's evisceration of the law in Shelby.
In addition, Democrats have been trying to make Election Day a holiday for years. Hillary Clinton first co-sponsored legislation to do this about 11 years ago. I'm not sure why you haven't heard about this. Did you check?
think
(11,641 posts)Empowerer
(3,900 posts)to try to make Election Day a Federal holiday and folks were bragging today about Bernie introducing an identical bill last summer as if he was the first person to have thought of this and had done something unique and special.
But I'm not going to do your research for you. You can research this for yourself at www.thomas.gov, among other places.
think
(11,641 posts)there. So spare me your condescension. I've done my homework.
99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)He's only come from NO. FUCKING. WHERE. to tie Hillary in Iowa,
and trounce Hillary by 22% in NH .. and he's on a roll.
He's steadily documenting his plans for America in proposed US Senate
Bills, so he record is clear and open to scrutiny.
He's also a sitting US Senator who's tending to that business as well.
Oh .. and yes .. he's running for President of the United States, which
takes a modest about of ones time as well.
If you are so "eager" to see the Revolution happen ASAP, why not go
to berniesanders.com and sign up.. you'd be most welcome I'm sure.
jfern
(5,204 posts)negative one years of being sworn in as President!
99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)kstewart33
(6,552 posts)25 years in Congress, primary sponsor of 3 passed bills with 2 each naming a Vermont post office. The 3rd bill did help veterans with COLA.
You can propose hundreds of bills. The only thing that matters is actually getting a bill passed. Leadership gets a bill passed.
Bernie is not doing so well on that score.
99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)take it or leave it.. but he's on record where he stands ..
solidly with the "little people"who are fed up with being
screwed over by Hillary's Masters of the Universe, and
are just beginning to wake up and smell the Bern..
and they love it.
RBInMaine
(13,570 posts)political action.
RBInMaine
(13,570 posts)uponit7771
(93,532 posts)... the current establishment in the DNC and not the marginalized (HRC leads with blacks, women, Hispanics, LGBT and non white poor) which is the heighth of irony
RBInMaine
(13,570 posts)diversions and excuses, diversions and excuses, diversions and excuses
When it's time to walk the walk and not just talk the talk, lots of Bernie folks FOLD. There's a little more to it than going to rallies to hear pie in the sky feel good promises.
uponit7771
(93,532 posts)... brings it up there's deflection no?
tia
Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)You just aren't paying attention.
Empowerer
(3,900 posts)Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)RBInMaine
(13,570 posts)Jarqui
(10,909 posts)His submissions of this idea may go back to when he was in the House.
https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/113/s2918
He submitted this bill again in Aug 2015
https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/114/s1969
Prognosis Details
This bill has a . . .
1% chance of getting past committee.
0% chance of being enacted.
Only 15% of bills made it past committee and only about 3% were enacted in 20132015.
Factors considered:
The bill was referred to Senate Judiciary.
This bill was a re-introduction of S. 2918 (113th) from the previous session of Congress.
The sponsor is a member of the minority party.
Senate record of receipt of the bill
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d114:s1969:
S.1969
Latest Title: Democracy Day Act of 2015
Sponsor: Sen Sanders, Bernard [VT] (introduced 8/5/2015) Cosponsors (None)
Latest Major Action: 8/5/2015 Referred to Senate committee. Status: Read twice and referred to the Committee on the Judiciary.
He issued a press release for the two bills he submitted
http://www.sanders.senate.gov/newsroom/press-releases/sanders-marks-voting-rights-act-anniversary-introduces-legislation-to-increase-voter-turnout
He posted an article about it on his blog
https://berniesanders.com/the-fight-for-voting-rights-is-our-fight-today/
He wrote an article about it for the Huffington Post
The Fight for Voting Rights Is Our Fight Today
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bernie-sanders/the-fight-for-voting-righ_b_7942850.html
He called or did a press conference and presented his two bills
Put it on twitter with a 4 minute video to promote it
https://twitter.com/BernieSanders/status/629696676786143232
And Facebook with a 4 minute video to promote it
https://www.facebook.com/berniesanders/videos/vb.124955570892789/878736432181362/?type=2&theater
He got some press - two examples:
Sanders: Make Election Day a holiday
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/250784-sanders-want-to-make-election-day-a-holiday
Sanders, King mark 50 years of Voting Rights Act but say poor minorities still disenfranchised
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/aug/6/bernie-sanders-martin-luther-king-iii-say-voting-r/?page=all
RBInMaine
(13,570 posts)Jarqui
(10,909 posts)government. That's all. GOP controls both chambers.
After November, when there's a good chance the senate will be blue, maybe they can get the it through the house.
It very well might have to wait until 2018
Rilgin
(796 posts)Of course you know that the republicans will not pass it. We agree with that. However, introducing it adds it to the debate which will play out over the next election cycles. You pin people into what they are for and against and tell your base what your goals are and what is possible. Are you against expanded and easier voting or is that too much democracy for you?
Does Hillary support the concept to open voting so that working people can vote? Or is it too big a step? If she triangulates, she can introduce a bill that requires polls to stay open an extra 5 minutes, that should satisfy your request for incremental meaningless "progress"
Do you support criminalizing Flag Burning btw?
RBInMaine
(13,570 posts)Surely the great revolution can at least get this passed.
Rilgin
(796 posts)I do not expect immediate answers. However, unlike you I know that pretending that problems can be fixed by tiny little patches will not fix anything. You do know that if you are heading for a cliff, slowing down does not stop you from going over, it just delays it a little.
BTW, did Hillary get the Flag Burning Bill she introduced passed? Guess she can not even get a pander bill passed to use your words. However, she is a reliable vote for most wars and will argue for most regime changes of which none have worked out.
And has voted with Republicans against a single purpose ban on the use of Cluster Munitions in civilian areas. Cluster Munitions which most of the world agrees should not be used because they stay in place and hurt civilian women and children long after the bomb was dropped. This is what you would vote for... a senator who would vote against a ban on the use of these weapons.
jmowreader
(53,194 posts)The Constitution's got to be amended to change Election Day to a full week, so everyone gets a chance to get to the polls.
Hekate
(100,133 posts)Yes we do.
aspirant
(3,533 posts)is she supporting or opposing it?
Hekate
(100,133 posts)That's the issue -- we are all playing catch-up as far as he's concerned. Sothe more info on him the better!
aspirant
(3,533 posts)bigtree
(94,263 posts)Sen. Clinton pushes voting holiday, allowing ex-cons to vote
WASHINGTON (AP) Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, a possible White House candidate in 2008, joined 2004 nominee John Kerry and other Democrats Thursday in urging that Election Day be made a federal holiday to encourage voting.
She also pushed for legislation that would allow all ex-felons to vote.
Standing with Massachusetts Sen. Kerry and other Democrats who had alleged voting irregularities in the 2004 contest, Clinton said, "Once again we had a federal election that demonstrates we have a long way to go."
"I think it's also necessary to make sure our elections meet the highest national standards," said the New York senator.
She and Kerry, both considered contenders for the 2008 nomination, were joined by Rep. Stephanie Tubbs Jones, D-Ohio, and Sen. Barbara Boxer, D-Calif., who forced a highly unusual House and Senate debate Jan. 6 on the presidential election results.
Clinton echoed those comments, though her senatorial re-election committee, Friends of Hillary, is pushing the bill hard.
Visitors to the group's Web site are greeted first with a full-page form asking people to endorse the Count Every Vote Act.
"My Web site has information about everything I work on. This is one of my biggest priorities and obviously I hope that people who share our goal of making sure every vote counts will support us," said Clinton.
In addition to creating a federal holiday for voting, the bill would:
Require paper receipts for votes.
Authorize $500 million to help states make the changes in voting systems and equipment.
Allow ex-felons to vote. Currently an estimated 4.7 million Americans are barred from voting because of their criminal records.
Require adoption of the changes in time for the 2006 election.
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/washington/2005-02-17-clinton-vote_x.htm
Hekate
(100,133 posts)My heart goes pitty-pat!
Skwmom
(12,685 posts)Empowerer
(3,900 posts)If he can't find the time to even mention his own bill, much less do a thing to get it passed, he's going to have a really rough time trying to firce through Wall Street reform and Single Payer while trying to manage an economy and a war and all of the other things a President is responsible for.
Sorry, but the "he had time to introduce legislation in the middle of a campaign but now doesn't have time to do anything to get it passed because he's running for President" argument is pure bull.
Skwmom
(12,685 posts)Empowerer
(3,900 posts)Got it.
RBInMaine
(13,570 posts)Nanjeanne
(6,589 posts)where it will languish. 15% of bills make it out of committee and 3% of those are enacted.
With Republicans in charge of both Senate and House and no President using his bully pulpit for enactment, it will languish. Same place most of Clinton's bills went to die in the 8 years she was in Senate.
So your point is? It's hard. I know I get it. But Bernie keeps trying and maybe with national attention, more things will get noticed. He is reaching people in a way to hey haven't been reached before. I'm behind that. The alternative of do nothing doesn't inspire me.
RBInMaine
(13,570 posts)Nanjeanne
(6,589 posts)You must know how politics work right?
This revolution that Bernie is inspiring? I means bringing people into our democracy. People that haven't been involved or cared or felt had a chance. They exist although the "establishment" candidates have forgotten that they do - or only notice them when they need to secure their vote for their election so they can ignore them again.
I don't know how your politics work - but I'm supporting people who will actually make a difference in Congress. Right now - in case you don't know . . . the midterm elections changed the make-up of the two houses. That's because ONLY progressive candidates won their races. All those middle of the road, Blue dog, Rep lite Democrats lost.
Sanders supporters are looking to change politics as usual. Sorry it's not happening on your time-line. I hope it will happen on mine. But I KNOW it will happen only if we try.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)Nanjeanne
(6,589 posts)2pooped2pop
(5,420 posts)To get that done? See how easy this game is?
CBGLuthier
(12,723 posts)gesture? 100,000 dollar fine her fucking highness would have levied against protesters.
RBInMaine
(13,570 posts)Bonobo
(29,257 posts)Hekate
(100,133 posts)I was right here. That particular shift in consciousness at DU was certainly complete before he was rightly outed as nuttin' but a POSUCS.
But hey, just because Obama had those throngs cheering him on BEFORE he was elected didn't mean they were going to get off their asses and work for him to change Congress. Silly wabbit. That was his job.
But THIS time is DIFFERENT. I can scarcely wait.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Weren't as willing to open their doors after Sanders recently voted yeah for the extreme right wing "audit the fed" bill.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)It's difficult to tell. Very confusing.
SidDithers
(44,333 posts)Sid
Kip Humphrey
(4,753 posts)jillan
(39,451 posts)Since Mitch McConnell is the leader of the Senate what do you think the answer is ? Ffs we can barely get a budget passed these days. Or even a Scotus nominee
Empowerer
(3,900 posts)earthside
(6,960 posts)'Better to do nothing at all' is apparently their credo.
From the campaign of "realistic pragmatism" ... also known as conservatism.