2016 Postmortem
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Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)transcripts again?
MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)Clinton's new airbag attempt to say, hey..lets NOT focus on WS like that boring
Bernie guy, is hilarious to me. Her approach does remind voters of her ties to WS and her
completely cynical based campaign strategies.
Why they find that a winning approach is beyond me.
Segami
(14,923 posts)casperthegm
(643 posts)So, yeah, here are some "issues" that Hillary has to deal with. Congrats;
Her position on Keystone (or lack of one). She waited until the same week that Obama made his decision before announcing where she stood. That's not standing up for the environment. That's politics.
Wall Street money. Whether it's impression or reality, it's there and it can't help but make me wonder. Generally speaking, it's hard to imagine the banks and Wall Street throwing all of that money at her and saying "here you go, we don't expect anything in return."
Her opposition to Glass Stegall. Though I do recall her telling the banks to "cut it out." Thanks Hillary.
Her Iraq vote. You may be sick of hearing about it but it's a big deal. It was poor judgement and lack of foresight. Sanders saw that it would destabilize the region. And it did. Now we not have the legacy of the Iraq war, we have the current ISIS situation.
Speaking of that, there is the no-fly zone proposal. Another poor foreign policy decision. What happens when Russian jets cross that line? You have to be prepared for that and I don't see it.
The email and server investigation by the FBI. Sorry, it's real. It very well could end up being nothing in the end, but what if it's not? What if it drags on until the general election and then she gets indicted? Then you end up with a republican in the White House.
Gay marriage. You can see how she has flip flopped over the years, as confirmed via politifact. Another change based on the political winds.
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)With that cute little "bring them to heel" speech.
floriduck
(2,262 posts)asuhornets
(2,427 posts)gay marriage once upon a time.
casperthegm
(643 posts)Bernie's been ahead of Hillary every step of the way on gay rights and marriage. If you'd like to compare and continue the discussion on this issue or any of the others that I listed I'd be happy to oblige
MuseRider
(35,176 posts)of course but at least even if he was a single issue candidate you could count on his not lying about it or poll testing it for his opinion.
tk2kewl
(18,133 posts)That's the way the game is played, ya know.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)kath
(10,565 posts)I've been putting CAPITAL letters in most of my posts, in your honor. (And because it really seems to piss off the Hillarians.
Segami
(14,923 posts)an increase usage in CAPS on the board headers.........I was touched and it brought a tear to my eye......
thanks...
Duval
(4,280 posts)Segami
(14,923 posts)azmom
(5,208 posts)Bonhomme Richard
(9,545 posts)I can not think of any serious problem we have today that doesn't have economic policy at its roots.
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)passiveporcupine
(8,175 posts)MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)passiveporcupine
(8,175 posts)They both cover pretty much the same issues
Gore1FL
(22,951 posts)Her unwillingness to take stands is why Bernie is doing so well.
Gore1FL
(22,951 posts)I look forward to this.
noiretextatique
(27,275 posts)It will be false no matter how many times you post it. Back it up, if you can...but you can't.
Gene Debs
(582 posts)I know it's going to be some empty nonsense with nothing whatsoever to back it up.
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)Gene Debs
(582 posts)BeanMusical
(4,389 posts)MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)BeanMusical
(4,389 posts)Is it some unconscious desire to poison her? Very Freudian.
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)BeanMusical
(4,389 posts)passiveporcupine
(8,175 posts)Because we've understood that you refuse to see the truth about Hillary or Bernie a long time ago. Your constant jabs here never offer up anything of consequence to back up what you say. It's all your opinion. And your opinion is wrong!
BeanMusical
(4,389 posts)
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)BeanMusical
(4,389 posts)SHE (HRH) is a single issue candidate. And the only issue that she is interested in is herself.
And if lying was a sport Clinton would be under investigation for using performance enhancing drugs.
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)I am entitled to that belief as much as you are entitled to believe the most honest politician in history, Hillary Clinton, is corrupt.
BeanMusical
(4,389 posts)I stopped believing without proof before reaching puberty. I don't believe that she's a crook, a liar and has plenty of blood on her hands, I know. Please don't break your rose colored glasses, the shock of reality could be fatal.
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)BeanMusical
(4,389 posts)Hill is so greedy that she would take out all your teeth if she could make a buck. Or send you sleep with the fishes if you stood in her way to the White House. Not her fault, I guess, she was born that way. A sociopath.
Be careful with these colored glasses anyway, dear. Reality can be a terrifying experience for those not used to it.
Roy Ellefson
(279 posts)free stuff talking point=right wing nonsense
BeanMusical
(4,389 posts)noiretextatique
(27,275 posts)To support your claims. Not one.
uponit7771
(93,532 posts)... run with it and be honest about it no?
tia
CoffeeCat
(24,411 posts)The Clinton-approved, Brock kitchen sink. Complete with slime, mold and rotten lies:

Segami
(14,923 posts)Surrounding herself with smear-rodents like David Brock is quite revealing as to the level of integrity & judgement we should all expect from a HRC administration......

Duval
(4,280 posts)BeanMusical
(4,389 posts)GreatGazoo
(4,613 posts)as she reframes it as "unaccountable money."
MoonRiver
(36,975 posts)He IS a single issue candidate. It works for some, and fails with others.
Segami
(14,923 posts)MoonRiver
(36,975 posts)In truth, most people care about more issues than that. And no, everything does NOT revolve around income inequality.
liberal_at_heart
(12,081 posts)with the rigged economy. That is why both Trump and Sanders are doing so well. The voters are giving a big middle finger to Washington DC right now. So if you want to accuse Sanders of being only about income inequality I would be careful because that is the one issue that most voters care the most about this election cycle. Sanders himself is not a one issue candidate. He has made his candidacy about climate change, SS, education, campaign finance reform, paid family leave, single payer healthcare, a living wage, reforming our prison industry and police departments, and so many many many more issues. So, no there is no proof that Sanders is a one issue candidate. Yet another false meme. But thanks for trying.
Qutzupalotl
(15,824 posts)Still not sure why.
senz
(11,945 posts)Segami
(14,923 posts)Thats the truth!......
RoccoR5955
(12,471 posts)Bernie is talking about universal healthcare, in case you weren't listening.
There are about SIXTEEN more issues he has been talking about.
You can find out where he stands at www.feelthebern.org.
noiretextatique
(27,275 posts)Clearly have not, or you would not be spreading falsehoods.
MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)What's the ISSUE?
Segami
(14,923 posts)Get ready for crickets..
MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)

Uncle Joe
(65,137 posts)noiretextatique
(27,275 posts)It seems Hilary supports are as good at lying as she is.
Uncle Joe
(65,137 posts)Thanks for the thread, Segami.
Go Vols
(5,902 posts)until it will be something else.She can't get any of her shit to stick.
Ino
(3,366 posts)Segami
(14,923 posts)rocktivity
(45,006 posts)If it's the RIGHT kind, one is all you need.
rocktivity
senz
(11,945 posts)I missed you so much!
Please don't ever go away again.
Segami
(14,923 posts)senz
(11,945 posts)but let's not forget what The Greatest said ...
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)(I have to give credit for that to someone on this board...but don't remember who it was.)
Hekate
(100,133 posts)stillwaiting
(3,795 posts)Ichingcarpenter
(36,988 posts)1. Private prisons... they work... Bernie against
2. Prison overpopulation... she's cool with it... Bernie against
3. Single payer.... she's against it
4 her bank account hedge fund $10 million condo lifestyle being threatened
Until she gets her next Barking orders from Moma
I'm sure we will get 'ANOTHER ONE''
Welcome Back Segami........
Gary 50
(490 posts)Dont call me Shirley
(10,998 posts)1. Revitalizing and enlarging middle class, which was close to fitting in a bathtub due to 35 solid years to Reaganomics, Bushonomics, Greenspanonomics.
2. Enacting single-payer healthcare including dental and Eyecare.
3. Rebuilding and crumbling infrastructure, updating to meet 21st century infrastructure.
4. Implementing bold steps to reduce inducers of global warming.
5. Overturning Citizens United.
7. Wall Street and banking reform.
8. Taxing the rich and corporations.
Please feel free to add to the list...
wouldsman
(94 posts)10. No TPP
11. Access to college for all
Dont call me Shirley
(10,998 posts)thereismore
(13,326 posts)wouldsman
(94 posts)it is so easily disprovable it says more about her than it does him.
Remember that sit in over segregation he did way back during the civil rights era? Bernie was just confused- he was trying to segregate the banks!
SunSeeker
(58,283 posts)When Sanders was my opponent he focused like a laser beam on class analysis, in which womens issues were essentially a distraction from more important issues. He urged voters not to vote for me just because I was a woman. That would be a sexist position, he declared.
https://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/2016/02/04/when-bernie-sanders-ran-against-vermont/kNP6xUupbQ3Qbg9UUelvVM/story.html
Sound familiar?
Z_California
(650 posts)Let's try lying about something that is disproved the first time you hear Bernie for more than 5 minutes.
DU members repeating these memes (nice word for "lies"
have forever lost any credibility at DU.
SidDithers
(44,333 posts)He's a single solution candidate.
He thinks every issue can be addressed with wealth equality and jobs.
When all you've got is a hammer, every problem is a nail.
Sid
dpatbrown
(368 posts)Her campaign is desperate to come up with anything that will put Sanders in a negative light. Them being honest is not a consideration. Plus, like someone else wrote, she really does think that voters are stupid and uninformed, only they're the ones uninformed.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)PatrynXX
(5,668 posts)I'm a multi issue voter. I just said in another thread on abortion if I was a single issue voter I'd be voting Republican and maybe in theory Hillary. then I find this one. smh She clearly failed at math.
d_legendary1
(2,586 posts)Its gonna take more than scare tactics to prevent people from voting against their self interest. No one gives a damn about preventing the cons from taking the presidency or the first female POTUS. How you gonna help us? What are your plans? Please tell us something other than paraphrases you stole from the other guy.
JudyM
(29,785 posts)kydo
(2,679 posts)So it isn't a lie.
Segami
(14,923 posts)Can you expand on your reply as to what exactly he is?
Please enlighten me.....
Response to kydo (Reply #67)
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noiretextatique
(27,275 posts)Put forth by a huge liar and her minions.
randome
(34,845 posts)There is no 'lie' when an opponent states his or her opinion. Get over it.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]"The whole world is a circus if you know how to look at it."
Tony Randall, 7 Faces of Dr. Lao (1964)[/center][/font][hr]
kath
(10,565 posts)RoccoR5955
(12,471 posts)Her issue is that she is a woman, and it is her turn to have the presidency.
All I hear out of her mouth is I, I, I, me, me, me.
When Bernie speaks, it's about us, and we.
asuhornets
(2,427 posts)healthcare proposal and she is not lying about Bernie being a one-note candidate. I hope she continue to call him out.
Segami
(14,923 posts)...she continues promoting her 'single issue' talking point.......the more the better!
I am convinced that myopic stooges are running her campaign.....
Karma13612
(4,982 posts)2008.
She doesn't realize she is alienating people.
Good to have you back Segami!
I always enjoy your posts and comments.
noiretextatique
(27,275 posts)And if you would do a little research, you would know that. Sanders' racial justice plank, for example, is far more comphrensive than Clinton's.
jfern
(5,204 posts)Odin2005
(53,521 posts)They are out to silence us.
treestar
(82,383 posts)He says the same thing to every question.
arcane1
(38,613 posts)noiretextatique
(27,275 posts)So true!
ladjf
(17,320 posts)He talked for an hour or more and discussed dozens of issues, rarely repeating himself.
The loved him. That was obvious. The man is something very special. He see's things just a bit clearer and quicker than most people.