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grasswire

(50,130 posts)
Tue Feb 16, 2016, 02:57 PM Feb 2016

Hillary weaseled yesterday on Citizens United litmus test for SCOTUS

She was directly asked on MSNBC if she would consider Citizens United repeal a litmus test for appointing members of the Supreme Court.

The best she could say, in repeated tries by the reporter to get an answer, is that she would "certainly look at" the matter.

She would NOT SAY YES.

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Hillary weaseled yesterday on Citizens United litmus test for SCOTUS (Original Post) grasswire Feb 2016 OP
and that surprises you Duckhunter935 Feb 2016 #1
no grasswire Feb 2016 #6
easy to say it before the rubber actually hits the road tk2kewl Feb 2016 #7
doesn't surprise me either SCantiGOP Feb 2016 #30
Thank you Empowerer Feb 2016 #42
Why on earth would she be against it? gyroscope Feb 2016 #2
That's what I keep asking myself. She loves it. It is fantastic Ed Suspicious Feb 2016 #31
Oh, she's going to "look into it"? TCJ70 Feb 2016 #3
I think I see a pattern here. /nt Dragonfli Feb 2016 #10
Until it gets poll tested, and approved by Podesta, floriduck Feb 2016 #4
At least she didn't lie. For her, that is a good thing. Motown_Johnny Feb 2016 #5
Definately Weasel-words Ferd Berfel Feb 2016 #8
She seems to sadoldgirl Feb 2016 #9
First hit: OilemFirchen Feb 2016 #11
Just six months ago, and she's already weaseling from that firm position. nt grasswire Feb 2016 #12
Cite it. (n/t) OilemFirchen Feb 2016 #15
cite what? nt grasswire Feb 2016 #16
Your undocumented claim. (n/t) OilemFirchen Feb 2016 #19
if I find video, I'll post it. grasswire Feb 2016 #20
I'll hold my breath. OilemFirchen Feb 2016 #21
I saw the interview live, and you are twisting her words emulatorloo Feb 2016 #22
he asked her repeatedly... grasswire Feb 2016 #23
She said "Of Course!" when Matthews asked if CU would be a litmus test for nominees emulatorloo Feb 2016 #24
Not exactly. OilemFirchen Feb 2016 #25
I'm one of those people that used to be quite fond of Hillary. I don't know if she changed or... BlueJazz Feb 2016 #13
Same here farleftlib Feb 2016 #28
This is typical Clinton rhetoric. She will "certainly look at" the matter. rhett o rick Feb 2016 #14
So basically... TTUBatfan2008 Feb 2016 #17
I don't think she would waffle at all as President. Cassiopeia Feb 2016 #29
Look into this, look into that, UglyGreed Feb 2016 #18
Maybe she needs an optometrist? Cassiopeia Feb 2016 #32
Single payer would cover that UglyGreed Feb 2016 #34
Sounds a lot like "I'll look into it". Avalux Feb 2016 #26
Weasel words once again. azmom Feb 2016 #27
When did this exchange place? one_voice Feb 2016 #33
She is a champion of using "weasel words and phrases". nt ladjf Feb 2016 #35
...... daleanime Feb 2016 #36
Is the Supreme Court nominee a valid issue? Or, are you just being mean to poor Hillary? Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2016 #37
she would "certainly look at" the matter. AlbertCat Feb 2016 #38
From the first debate retrowire Feb 2016 #39
That's Hillary's stock answer... Unknown Beatle Feb 2016 #40
Here's what her site says... thesquanderer Feb 2016 #41
good point grasswire Feb 2016 #44
I see you've got it covered. ;-) (n/t) thesquanderer Feb 2016 #45
It benefits the establishment. Of course she won't answer. AllyCat Feb 2016 #43
She is certainly "looking into" many matters. nt TBF Feb 2016 #46
The audio here says something totally different from 3 days ago: Lucinda Feb 2016 #47
"Look into it" She won't commit to a position on any crucial issue. Same with TPP amborin Feb 2016 #48

SCantiGOP

(14,758 posts)
30. doesn't surprise me either
Tue Feb 16, 2016, 05:26 PM
Feb 2016

Any ethical judge, or President for that matter, who not enter into a quid pro quo requirement for someone to be appointed. Any judge with an understanding of judicial ethics would refuse to answer the question since they would later have to hear - as an unbiased judicial official - the facts of a case before rendering a decision.

I know that is not what you want to hear but ask any member of the bar (like my wife) if that is not the case.

 

gyroscope

(1,443 posts)
2. Why on earth would she be against it?
Tue Feb 16, 2016, 03:00 PM
Feb 2016

she benefits from CU Wall Street money more than anyone.

The Clintons are 100% bought and paid for.

 

floriduck

(2,262 posts)
4. Until it gets poll tested, and approved by Podesta,
Tue Feb 16, 2016, 03:00 PM
Feb 2016

she's likely not allowed to take a firm position. If she said yes, there would have been no ability to compromise with Repubs.

 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
5. At least she didn't lie. For her, that is a good thing.
Tue Feb 16, 2016, 03:02 PM
Feb 2016

I kinda gotta give her credit for that.



Ferd Berfel

(3,687 posts)
8. Definately Weasel-words
Tue Feb 16, 2016, 03:03 PM
Feb 2016

BTW she also used lame weasel-words regarding protecting Social Security and Medicare - on her website.

She's a creature of Wall Street and the 1%. That's the beginning and end of it.


sadoldgirl

(3,431 posts)
9. She seems to
Tue Feb 16, 2016, 03:03 PM
Feb 2016

"look into" and to "look at" more and more issues,

but then she has a hard time to stand firm on
anything; thus no surprise.

OilemFirchen

(7,288 posts)
11. First hit:
Tue Feb 16, 2016, 03:05 PM
Feb 2016
Hillary Clinton’s litmus test for Supreme Court nominees: a pledge to overturn Citizens United

Hillary Clinton told a group of her top fundraisers Thursday that if she is elected president, her nominees to the Supreme Court will have to share her belief that the court's 2010 Citizens United decision must be overturned, according to people who heard her remarks.

Clinton's emphatic opposition to the ruling, which allowed corporations and unions to spend unlimited sums on independent political activity, garnered the strongest applause of the afternoon from the more than 200 party financiers gathered in Brooklyn for a closed-door briefing from the Democratic candidate and her senior aides, according to some of those present.

emulatorloo

(46,155 posts)
22. I saw the interview live, and you are twisting her words
Tue Feb 16, 2016, 03:52 PM
Feb 2016

She said CU overturn was one of the top issues she'd talk to potential nominee about. She said other issues would be reproductive rights, voting rights, et cetera. CU was definitely on the top of list, despite what you claim.

OilemFirchen

(7,288 posts)
25. Not exactly.
Tue Feb 16, 2016, 05:13 PM
Feb 2016

OTOH, she did not say "that she would 'certainly look at' the matter:

MATTHEWS: Let me ask you about your position about appointing Supreme Court justices should you be elected president. You rival, Senator Sanders said he would put a litmus test. It must be someone who wants to get rid of Citizens United. Where are you on that?

CLINTON: Well, I had hoped that anybody I appoint would understand the grave damage that Citizens United is doing to our democracy. I think we need to appoint Supreme Court justices who are living in the, you know, the real give-and-take of the world, and can see with their own eyes how some of the decisions, whether it's voting rights, or Citizens United, made by this Court are having very pernicious effect. I would be looking for people who understood that.

MATTHEWS: Would you set that as what we call a litmus test? In other words, talk to the possible nominee and say, I want to know where you stand on getting rid of Citizens United as a prerequisite to naming them? Would it be a litmus test?

CLINTON: Look, I will be — I'll be talking in detail with anybody that I appoint. It's not just that decision, I have a whole range of decisions that I think are really important. So yeah, it would factor very much into who I nominated.

Her remarks comport exactly with what she's been saying all along.
 

BlueJazz

(25,348 posts)
13. I'm one of those people that used to be quite fond of Hillary. I don't know if she changed or...
Tue Feb 16, 2016, 03:11 PM
Feb 2016

..I changed but damn!, she has changed into a "can't commit" mealy-mouth politician and that's something I will not support.

 

farleftlib

(2,125 posts)
28. Same here
Tue Feb 16, 2016, 05:19 PM
Feb 2016

It was she who changed. She's intelligent, capable and determined, no doubt about it. But she sold herself to the highest bidders and she can't hide her fealty to her corporate masters. My vote goes to the guy who isn't an establishment marionette.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
14. This is typical Clinton rhetoric. She will "certainly look at" the matter.
Tue Feb 16, 2016, 03:12 PM
Feb 2016

What's her position on medical marijuana? She thinks it needs more study. How about helping college students? What was her answer? They should get a job like she did. Where does she stand on the TPP? Fracking? Nothing concrete.

TTUBatfan2008

(3,623 posts)
17. So basically...
Tue Feb 16, 2016, 03:14 PM
Feb 2016

...she confirmed what Sanders' campaign guy said. If she's waffling like that in a primary, what's going to happen in the general election and more importantly after she gets elected?

Cassiopeia

(2,603 posts)
29. I don't think she would waffle at all as President.
Tue Feb 16, 2016, 05:25 PM
Feb 2016

She would be very firm in her support of Wall Street, the MIC, war, pharma profits, and job outsourcing trade agreements.

Cassiopeia

(2,603 posts)
32. Maybe she needs an optometrist?
Tue Feb 16, 2016, 05:27 PM
Feb 2016

She seems to be having trouble getting any firm positions with all that looking around.

Avalux

(35,015 posts)
26. Sounds a lot like "I'll look into it".
Tue Feb 16, 2016, 05:15 PM
Feb 2016

If she can't unequivocally commit to overturning CU, I won't be able to vote for her in the GE if she's the nominee.

 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
38. she would "certainly look at" the matter.
Tue Feb 16, 2016, 05:40 PM
Feb 2016

Is she finished listening yet so she can get onto looking? She has a lot to look into.

retrowire

(10,345 posts)
39. From the first debate
Tue Feb 16, 2016, 05:44 PM
Feb 2016

Moderator: "Hillary would you vote to Expand Social Security?"

Hillary: "I would.... (thinks of any other word but expand for some reason) ENHANCE Social Security."

She really dodges giving straight answers. Doesn't that concern anyone?

Unknown Beatle

(2,691 posts)
40. That's Hillary's stock answer...
Tue Feb 16, 2016, 10:20 PM
Feb 2016

If she's against something that people are for and they ask her about it, she'll say, "I'll look into it."

If she's for it and people are against it and they ask her about it, she'll say, "I'll look into it."

Asked if she'll release her Goldman Sachs speech transcripts, "I'll look into it."

She should try being honest for once.

thesquanderer

(13,111 posts)
41. Here's what her site says...
Tue Feb 16, 2016, 10:44 PM
Feb 2016
Hillary will:
Overturn Citizens United. Hillary will appoint Supreme Court justices who value the right to vote over the right of billionaires to buy elections. She’ll push for a constitutional amendment to overturn Citizens United in order to restore the role of everyday voters in elections.


https://www.hillaryclinton.com/issues/campaign-finance-reform/

So she seems to be saying that she prefers a constitutional amendment... but that's very hard to do.

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