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amborin

(16,631 posts)
Tue Feb 16, 2016, 07:55 PM Feb 2016

US Uncut: "She (Hillary) and Her Husband Traveled First Class to Execute A Black Man"

She and her husband traveled first-class to execute a black man with an IQ level of 70”

Mark is referring to Ricky Ray Rector, whom Clinton executed just before the New Hampshire primary in 1992. Rector had committed two murders, then shot himself in the head, causing permanent brain damage. A judge then ordered Rector to stand trial despite his mental condition.

A Yale professor studying the case wrote about how Rector honestly believed he would live to be able to vote for Clinton in the November elections:


That afternoon, after Clinton had refused all final entreaties for clemency, Rector sat with one of his attorneys watching, on a TV outside his cell, news reports of his impending execution, two hours away, intermingled with accounts of Clinton’s travail over the Flowers charges, and he abruptly announced, in a thick mumble, “I’m gonna vote for him, Gonna vote for Clinton.” It had always been his habit to put aside his dessert until bedtime, and after eating his last meal, of steak and fried chicken in gravy, with cherry Kool-Aid, he carefully set aside his helping of pecan pie, to finish later. One of his attorneys had earlier stated that Rector “thinks he’ll be back in his cell on Saturday morning.”


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US Uncut: "She (Hillary) and Her Husband Traveled First Class to Execute A Black Man" (Original Post) amborin Feb 2016 OP
Un fucking forgivable. morningfog Feb 2016 #1
Wildly ambitious monsters both of them. n/t Peregrine Took Feb 2016 #53
i remember that...the pie thing just killed my soul. Punkingal Feb 2016 #2
. tk2kewl Feb 2016 #14
..+1 840high Feb 2016 #17
Just one reason boobooday Feb 2016 #3
Likewise. Hell Hath No Fury Feb 2016 #10
I'm just sick reading this. DiehardLiberal Feb 2016 #4
WOW. I had not heard that one before. FUCK! berni_mccoy Feb 2016 #5
truly sickening, but it wasn't Hillary who made that decision nt geek tragedy Feb 2016 #6
Hillary supports the death penalty Arazi Feb 2016 #11
No, but she COULD have -- Hell Hath No Fury Feb 2016 #12
Putting Ricky to death was unconscionable. beam me up scottie Feb 2016 #7
They seem like a nice couple. frylock Feb 2016 #8
Bless their hearts. elehhhhna Feb 2016 #65
I remember that as if it were yesterday... Hell Hath No Fury Feb 2016 #9
You and me both... the Clintons have no heart, no soul. InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2016 #20
that's the downside of the New Party--they figure that if half the country votes Dem and half Pub, MisterP Feb 2016 #21
Me too, and I couldn't give him a pass farleftlib Feb 2016 #22
Her Iraq war vote was also to prove her macho cred. Hoppy Feb 2016 #47
Low blow... speaktruthtopower Feb 2016 #13
Hmm how is this a low blow? nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #15
OT... Sophiegirl Feb 2016 #40
So...speak truth to power, but only if power is not offended. (nt) jeff47 Feb 2016 #18
I have no problem at all holding power accountable.. speaktruthtopower Feb 2016 #26
The truth is he did not have to attend to it. jeff47 Feb 2016 #64
Hillary is still a death penalty proponent. morningfog Feb 2016 #27
Cluster bombs don't ALWAYS kill; lots of times they just maim brown kids. Divernan Feb 2016 #79
It's always a "low blow" to factually recount H's history. Jester Messiah Feb 2016 #28
This was Bill's work, not Hillary's 6chars Feb 2016 #30
Same goes for him, and I stand by it anyway. [nt] Jester Messiah Feb 2016 #31
The fucking DEATH PENALTY is a low blow. cherokeeprogressive Feb 2016 #32
All the sports programs today were angry at the person who shined a light on Peyton Manning's sexual Ed Suspicious Feb 2016 #49
If it's "factually correct," how can it be a low blow? Is speaking the truth a "low blow"? Gene Debs Feb 2016 #50
Sickening Jenny_92808 Feb 2016 #16
Sweet Baby Jeebus. AzDar Feb 2016 #19
In this case hilary was tammy wynette and stood by her man. RATM435 Feb 2016 #23
interesting - she used to have a southern accent 6chars Feb 2016 #36
Hillary Clinton's accent evolution (1983–2015) RATM435 Feb 2016 #51
Hillary has always been Tammy Wynette. earthside Feb 2016 #69
This is misleading This is not the DU I know fun n serious Feb 2016 #24
it was a little controversial at the time 6chars Feb 2016 #34
It wasn't Hilary as I said. nt fun n serious Feb 2016 #37
no controversy about that! 6chars Feb 2016 #39
It is misleading fun n serious Feb 2016 #71
Totally factual. Do some research before you insinuate someone is lying. LiberalArkie Feb 2016 #41
He literally had the power of life or death. He chose to kill. Bonobo Feb 2016 #25
they were "co-presidents" -- 'nuff said nashville_brook Feb 2016 #43
Prove it please. nt fun n serious Feb 2016 #72
Capital punishment should be a litmus test for Democrats. HassleCat Feb 2016 #29
+1 farleftlib Feb 2016 #35
And if we don't, we're the new leftist tea party. Kittycat Feb 2016 #61
A sad testament to Bill Clinton's third way/triangulation policies Arazi Feb 2016 #66
Damn straight! TIME TO PANIC Feb 2016 #45
+1000 Uponthegears Feb 2016 #63
Pathetic especially since he had brain jillan Feb 2016 #33
Not at the time of the crime he didn't have brain damage. fun n serious Feb 2016 #38
But he did at the time he was being murdered jillan Feb 2016 #44
He made himself brain damaged and NOW.. fun n serious Feb 2016 #52
Oh stop it! I am not pushing any agenda. I am retelling a real incident. This wasn't a movie. jillan Feb 2016 #54
Oppposition to the death penalty farleftlib Feb 2016 #55
Close Uponthegears Feb 2016 #57
And every HRC poster is going to start doing posts that say either "no biggie" Ken Burch Feb 2016 #42
AND Fries. John Poet Feb 2016 #75
Sociopaths. TIME TO PANIC Feb 2016 #46
I can't shake this post. noamnety Feb 2016 #80
It's disgusting and indefensible. n/t TIME TO PANIC Feb 2016 #82
I don't think Hillary flew anywhere for the execution. This is not supported by the facts bigtree Feb 2016 #48
"I do not favor abolishing" the death penalty...she said... Kalidurga Feb 2016 #59
Exactly Uponthegears Feb 2016 #67
You might have a point Uponthegears Feb 2016 #60
Speaking of Clinton victims, I recently watched Monica Lewinsky's TED talk. senz Feb 2016 #56
I always felt bad for that poor girl arikara Feb 2016 #78
This is forgivable but proper "framing" of black issues isnt Arazi Feb 2016 #58
Not to further upset Uponthegears Feb 2016 #62
I am totally devastated and sick to my stomach... BeanMusical Feb 2016 #68
Disgusting. nt Live and Learn Feb 2016 #70
Hillary was governor of AR? Beacool Feb 2016 #73
... kgnu_fan Feb 2016 #74
This is a perfect example of how both Clinton's always do what is politically expedient EmperorHasNoClothes Feb 2016 #76
Even putting mentally disabled people to death for it. Ouch. Bonobo Feb 2016 #77
Sometimes I wonder UnBlinkingEye Feb 2016 #81
Kick. Luminous Animal Mar 2016 #83
 

Hell Hath No Fury

(16,327 posts)
12. No, but she COULD have --
Tue Feb 16, 2016, 08:10 PM
Feb 2016

changed his mind on the issue if she really wanted to. I truly believe that. But, they both had their sights on future political races, races where they felt they had to gain some "toughness" cred, prove they weren't typical "bleeding heart liberals" (cause those SUCK, you know) to get votes.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
7. Putting Ricky to death was unconscionable.
Tue Feb 16, 2016, 08:04 PM
Feb 2016

He was a child in a man's body, he had no idea they were going to kill him. I'm opposed to the death penalty in all cases but executing a mentally handicapped individual is much more barbaric than the crimes Ricky committed.

 

Hell Hath No Fury

(16,327 posts)
9. I remember that as if it were yesterday...
Tue Feb 16, 2016, 08:06 PM
Feb 2016

Disgusting. The whole pie thing haunts me to this very day. The whole nasty thing was the final nail in the coffin for me and the death penalty.

Bill and Hillary -- neoliberal Dems trying to prove to voters they were as bloodthirsty as the GOPers. Same bullshit as the IWR vote -- Hillary had to prove she was just as "tough" as W.

I am DONE with that bullshit.

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
21. that's the downside of the New Party--they figure that if half the country votes Dem and half Pub,
Tue Feb 16, 2016, 09:52 PM
Feb 2016

they should win over Pubs by killing as many as they can, to show they're tough and disciplinarian

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
15. Hmm how is this a low blow?
Tue Feb 16, 2016, 08:16 PM
Feb 2016

The 1990s were not precisely nice years for police and crime and the Clintons were at the center of that.

Sorry, working on a piece on mass incarceration at the moment. And when you read the statistics and now their role... "child predators" and three strike laws come to mind/

speaktruthtopower

(800 posts)
26. I have no problem at all holding power accountable..
Tue Feb 16, 2016, 10:02 PM
Feb 2016

as long as I'm sure who did what.

I wouldn't fault a governor for flying first class, but conflating it with an unpleasant duty he had to attend to was a creative negative way to portray the situation.

The rest of his post I don't have a problem with.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
64. The truth is he did not have to attend to it.
Tue Feb 16, 2016, 11:31 PM
Feb 2016

In fact, there's plenty of precedent for a stay or commuting his sentence.

But Bill Clinton had NH to win, and needed to show just how tough on crime he was. (Didn't quite make it on NH)

Divernan

(15,480 posts)
79. Cluster bombs don't ALWAYS kill; lots of times they just maim brown kids.
Wed Feb 17, 2016, 03:29 AM
Feb 2016

And that creates a market for orthotic devices, amiright, Verne? Hillary calls that collateral profits, not collateral damage!

Guess Hillary would say that's one way to bring those super predators to heel.

 

Jester Messiah

(4,711 posts)
28. It's always a "low blow" to factually recount H's history.
Tue Feb 16, 2016, 10:08 PM
Feb 2016

Kind of like it's a "gotcha" to play a Republican's words back to him verbatim.

Ed Suspicious

(8,879 posts)
49. All the sports programs today were angry at the person who shined a light on Peyton Manning's sexual
Tue Feb 16, 2016, 10:51 PM
Feb 2016

assault and racism after all these years. They also thought it was a low blow because it was so long ago. I say fuck that.

 

fun n serious

(4,451 posts)
24. This is misleading This is not the DU I know
Tue Feb 16, 2016, 10:02 PM
Feb 2016

I guess we allow any ol blog or news source here now and call it FACTUAL.

Bonobo

(29,257 posts)
25. He literally had the power of life or death. He chose to kill.
Tue Feb 16, 2016, 10:02 PM
Feb 2016

I wonder if he talked about it with Hillary?

I wonder if it was even important enough for him to talk with Hillary about?

And if he did, what did Hillary say?

 

HassleCat

(6,409 posts)
29. Capital punishment should be a litmus test for Democrats.
Tue Feb 16, 2016, 10:09 PM
Feb 2016

Anyone who supports the death penalty is not a real Democrat. Argue it any way you like, but I'm not budging on that.

 

farleftlib

(2,125 posts)
35. +1
Tue Feb 16, 2016, 10:18 PM
Feb 2016

It used to be a given, Dems opposed it. Not anymore. Not only that but now they support militarization of the police and prisons and curtailment of basic civil rights.

Arazi

(8,887 posts)
66. A sad testament to Bill Clinton's third way/triangulation policies
Tue Feb 16, 2016, 11:35 PM
Feb 2016

HRC stands to continue those fatal flaws

 

fun n serious

(4,451 posts)
38. Not at the time of the crime he didn't have brain damage.
Tue Feb 16, 2016, 10:21 PM
Feb 2016

Atkins v. Virginia, ruling that the practice constitutes cruel and unusual punishment; however, it is not clear that this ruling would have applied to Rector because his brain damage was caused by his suicide attempt after having committed the two murders for which he was convicted and then, as it turned out, executed.

jillan

(39,451 posts)
44. But he did at the time he was being murdered
Tue Feb 16, 2016, 10:27 PM
Feb 2016

He was sitting there watching Bill on tv saying he was going to vote for him while Bill was on his way to have hum put to death. Heartbreaking

 

fun n serious

(4,451 posts)
52. He made himself brain damaged and NOW..
Tue Feb 16, 2016, 11:01 PM
Feb 2016

Instead of remembering this man's victims you are USING him to push your agenda.

jillan

(39,451 posts)
54. Oh stop it! I am not pushing any agenda. I am retelling a real incident. This wasn't a movie.
Tue Feb 16, 2016, 11:04 PM
Feb 2016

This was a dark day in America.

 

farleftlib

(2,125 posts)
55. Oppposition to the death penalty
Tue Feb 16, 2016, 11:09 PM
Feb 2016

has no bearing on the victims of the perp's crime. Nobody is pro-murder and anti-victim. That is just weak.

 

Uponthegears

(1,499 posts)
57. Close
Tue Feb 16, 2016, 11:12 PM
Feb 2016

Atkins dealt with intellectual disability, which, as a clinical matter, must manifest prior to the age of 18. The issue of whether he was competent to be executed turns upon his mental state at the time of execution. The USSC case on that is Panetti v Quarterman. Ricky was obviously incompetent, however a black man in Bill Clinton's Arkansas had about as much of a chance of having a court say that as he did having Bill grant clemency while he was running for president of the most bloodthirsty first world democracy on the planet.

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
42. And every HRC poster is going to start doing posts that say either "no biggie"
Tue Feb 16, 2016, 10:24 PM
Feb 2016

Last edited Wed Feb 17, 2016, 02:07 AM - Edit history (1)

or "they HAD to do it to be able to beat #41".

Bill probably stopped for a Big Mac afterwards.

 

noamnety

(20,234 posts)
80. I can't shake this post.
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 12:06 AM
Feb 2016

I read it last night, mentally kept coming back to it today. I know sometimes we throw posts like this out there and they don't seem to have any effect, but this one did. It hit me that it's the link between the welfare reform, the 1994 crime bill, being buddies with Kissinger, the romanticizing of that first date of crossing the picket line, viewing the war and a half a million dead children as a good business opportunity.

bigtree

(94,261 posts)
48. I don't think Hillary flew anywhere for the execution. This is not supported by the facts
Tue Feb 16, 2016, 10:40 PM
Feb 2016

Bill Clinton flew HOME to Arkansas. Hillary may well have accompanied him, but the 'first-class' nonsense is over-the-top and salacious.

Making Hillary responsible for her husband's decision as Governor by pointing out she may have flown home to Arkansas from wherever she was is basically a lie. It is bogus.

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
59. "I do not favor abolishing" the death penalty...she said...
Tue Feb 16, 2016, 11:17 PM
Feb 2016

That is what Hillary said not Bill. So it doesn't matter if she flew on the plane or if it was first class or coach. The fact is she isn't against the death penalty and the only fact that matters.

 

Uponthegears

(1,499 posts)
67. Exactly
Tue Feb 16, 2016, 11:44 PM
Feb 2016

Hillary KNOWS what happened to Ricky Rector. She KNOWS he had the mind of a small child. She KNOWS her husband let it go forward. She knows all that and STILL she panders to the right.

Quit making excuses Hillary.

 

Uponthegears

(1,499 posts)
60. You might have a point
Tue Feb 16, 2016, 11:17 PM
Feb 2016

IF Hillary stood against this barbaric relic of an uncivilized past. As it stands, she has embraced Bill's bloody deed.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
56. Speaking of Clinton victims, I recently watched Monica Lewinsky's TED talk.
Tue Feb 16, 2016, 11:12 PM
Feb 2016

Neither Clinton ever expressed an ounce of sympathy or regret for the 22 year-old intern. Hillary referred to her as a "narcissistic loony toon." The universal contempt heaped on Ms. Lewinsky broke her to the point that for many months afterward her mother kept the bathroom door open when Monica showered, fearing what she might do to herself, and sat by her bedside to help her sleep.

arikara

(5,562 posts)
78. I always felt bad for that poor girl
Wed Feb 17, 2016, 01:30 AM
Feb 2016

I'm glad she was strong enough to find her way out of the wilderness.

 

Uponthegears

(1,499 posts)
62. Not to further upset
Tue Feb 16, 2016, 11:26 PM
Feb 2016

anyone, but executing a man who thought he was coming back to his cell for dessert afterwards was not the only barbaric and inhuman act Bill masterminded that day. When they went to execute Ricky they couldn't find a vein so the went in without anaesthetic and made 3/4 inch plus deep slices in his thigh to cut down to the femoral vein. It was one of the bloodiest and most brutal executions of the last half of the 20th century.

EmperorHasNoClothes

(4,797 posts)
76. This is a perfect example of how both Clinton's always do what is politically expedient
Wed Feb 17, 2016, 01:20 AM
Feb 2016

Rather than what is FUCKING RIGHT. Cowards.

Bonobo

(29,257 posts)
77. Even putting mentally disabled people to death for it. Ouch.
Wed Feb 17, 2016, 01:21 AM
Feb 2016

Not really what I'm looking for in a POTUS at this time. Thanks.

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