2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumPoll: Clinton, Sanders in a dead heat for Nevada
Though Clinton holds an edge over Sanders on handling a range of top issues, the results suggest the extremely close race hinges on divided opinions on the economy.
Overall, 48% of likely caucus attendees say they support Clinton, 47% Sanders. Both candidates carry their demographic strong points from prior states into Nevada, with Clinton holding an edge among women, while Sanders tops the former secretary of state among voters under age 55.
READ: The complete CNN/ORC poll results
http://edition.cnn.com/2016/02/17/politics/hillary-clinton-bernie-sanders-nevada-poll/index.html
peacebird
(14,195 posts)still_one
(92,062 posts)morningfog
(18,115 posts)Expected to lose after being up 30 points.
still_one
(92,062 posts)morningfog
(18,115 posts)Polls will move between now and then, especially after a Bernie win in NV and a decent showing in SC.
Setting that to the side, most Super Tuesday states don't have polling as recent as this. Outdated polls are of little use at this point.
I think Bernie is going to do better than many expect on Super Tuesday. And I am certain that the race will not end be over the following Wednesday morning.
ChairmanAgnostic
(28,017 posts)Typical shifting of goalposts by Team Hillary.
Helen Borg
(3,963 posts)BWAHAHAHAH!
still_one
(92,062 posts)Virginia Democratic primary, 84% chance that Hillary will win
http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/election-2016/primary-forecast/virginia-democratic/
Michigan Democratic primary, 97% chance that Hillary will win
http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/election-2016/primary-forecast/michigan-democratic/
NorthCarolina Democratic Primary, 95% chance that Hillary will win
http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/election-2016/primary-forecast/north-carolina-democratic/
and in the next several days there will be polls for the other states coming out
so
BWAHAHAHAH! right back at ya
Kentonio
(4,377 posts)Yet she won by such a narrow margin that the delegates were pretty much evenly split. Is that Hillary's grand plan for her strongest states on Super Tuesday? Come out with a couple more delegates and hope she doesn't get creamed in states like California and New York?
Sophiegirl
(2,338 posts)When it was decided by the flip if a coin.
delrem
(9,688 posts)I think. How those coins flipped.
Helen Borg
(3,963 posts)That is just amazing.
riversedge
(70,095 posts)delrem
(9,688 posts)85-90% of Dem support, vs single digits for everyone else.
That was how HRC's campaign started the game.
Like they owned it.
Immediately after this they went negative on race. They hired David Brock to conduct an internet based campaign to paint Sanders' supporters as racist "BernieBro's", and to create a racial divide. It's been all over DU, if you haven't noticed.
They've been at this like a dog with a bone to the present day with Capehart's outright swiftboating - repeated on DU, to the point of being given credence by the DU admin.
Now you've gotta own this shit, because it's yours.
secondwind
(16,903 posts)and see what happens
Nonhlanhla
(2,074 posts)which is not the same as a 51/49 split.
Either way, NV is clearly a split.
delrem
(9,688 posts)At the last moment he'll try to save his sorry ass.
Gene Debs
(582 posts)Helen Borg
(3,963 posts)They are not anymore!
greymouse
(872 posts)madokie
(51,076 posts)before they fall
peacebird
(14,195 posts)CLINTON CONFRONTS NEVADA BLOWBACK
BY JHONAS / FEBRUARY 15, 2016 LATEST POSTS, WORLD NEWS NO COMMENTS
With five days to go until the Nevada caucuses once viewed as Hillary Clintons Western firewall Sen. Harry Reid and his allies are incensed at the wounded Democratic frontrunner.
The reason: The Clinton campaigns attempt to downgrade expectations there by whitewashing the diverse state.
The campaigns recent assertion that Nevada is still a state that is 80 percent white voters in other words, a state that looks alot like Bernie Sanders base is simply wrong, Reid allies claim. But more galling than that, they say, it undermines the entire rationale for the caucuses existence the state was only pushed to the front of the election calendar eight years ago because Reid lobbied for better demographic representation than the overwhelmingly white early-voting states like Iowa and New Hampshire.
madokie
(51,076 posts)its a good thing they elected to put it on wheels early on. LOL
merrily
(45,251 posts)I don't recall if the word "firewall" was applied to both, but both were often mentioned in the same (figurative) breath.
Tien1985
(920 posts)to a tie again. With the time left, there is still a chance it could end up swinging either way. I don't think it's a good idea for either side to get cocky, but that's my two cents.
Get the phone-banking and social media awareness moving Nevada!
delrem
(9,688 posts)Sanders will win.
That isn't horse race politics that I'm talking about.
I'm talking about electability.
We were given to understand that nobody except Hillary Rodham Clinton was "electable".
That no alternative was possible, and that she would be the least of evils that the Republicans would offer.
By being bipartisan, centrist, she could and would work with Republicans to get things done, and Sanders certainly couldn't do that.
A slam dunk, she figured.
as she was going up to the basket the dang thing moved on her and was no longer where it was.
Thats the trouble one runs into with their goal post on wheels you know
greymouse
(872 posts)Every Republican I know hates her, and even a couple of my Republican relatives have changed over to Bernie, having seen the field of nutcases their party has supplied as candidates.
delrem
(9,688 posts)Of course the most "moderate" and "centered" candidate will be the most "electable".
That's all you really need to know about the meaning of the terms.
MisterP
(23,730 posts)people would support her no matter how grudgingly, people would give her JUST enough of a chance to turn over a new leaf once elected, voters and cadres would carefully make themselves forget what she said and did in the past (the Party basically runs on self-hypnosis)
madokie
(51,076 posts)enough over 55 women to pull this out for Hillary in Nevada? I just don't think there is.
I'll be surprised if Hillary makes it to our primary here in Ok. Which is on the first of march. I wonder if she may just take what money she has left and skedaddle. After all she had to go back to her well for more money just yesterday. Sounds to me like someone is having a hard time making ends meet.
Personally I'd like to see her stay in the race for a while yet as as long as she is still in the more chances that Bernie has in getting his message out, to win in November we need that message to get out. If she was to quit then the M$N wouldn't have any reason to even shine a light on Bernie let along cover any of his speeches or rallies. Which by the way they aren't doing much coverage of now anyway.