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TubbersUK

(1,439 posts)
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 10:30 AM Feb 2016

Brock warns of ‘slippery slope’ on Clinton disclosures

Asking for Hillary Clinton’s transcripts from her paid speeches to Goldman Sachs “could be a slippery slope” for even more requests, one of the candidate’s top surrogates insisted Thursday.
“I think there’s nothing to hide, but I think that could be a slippery slope and we could end up asking for all sorts of things,” David Brock, the founder of the pro-Clinton Correct the Record PAC, said in an interview with MSNBC’s “Morning Joe.”

In defending Clinton’s paid speeches to Goldman Sachs, in particular, Brock cited former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani, who embarked on his own speaking tour prior to running for the Republican nomination in 2008.
“She got fair market value for her speeches. She made that decision,” he said, remarking that it is up to Clinton and her campaign to decide whether to release the transcripts.



http://www.politico.com/story/2016/02/david-brock-hillary-clinton-disclosures-219420


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Brock warns of ‘slippery slope’ on Clinton disclosures (Original Post) TubbersUK Feb 2016 OP
So if there's nothing to hide, why worry about the slippery slope, Brock? Erich Bloodaxe BSN Feb 2016 #1
Hillary's "Goldman Handshake"...they got her for "fair market value" virtualobserver Feb 2016 #2
Yes. I hate to bring it up, but there's a word for when they get in bed together... reformist2 Feb 2016 #20
what a crock RiverLover Feb 2016 #3
catchy FreakinDJ Feb 2016 #18
I would take anything this assclown says AgingAmerican Feb 2016 #4
More like "the whole goddamn Morton can". VulgarPoet Feb 2016 #5
To Hell with him. He is beneath contempt and beyond disgusting. cali Feb 2016 #6
Guiliani isn't exactly someone you'd want to be compared with. 2pooped2pop Feb 2016 #7
exactly what I was thinking dana_b Feb 2016 #15
Anyone see the irony of David Brock being described as a "top surrogate." Punkingal Feb 2016 #8
+1 daleanime Feb 2016 #27
A 'slippery slope' of TRANSPARENCY beedle Feb 2016 #9
For a democrat NWCorona Feb 2016 #10
David Brock Just outed Clinton as a liar JonLeibowitz Feb 2016 #11
Once the rubes get a taste for transparency, there'll be no stopping them! Orsino Feb 2016 #12
What slope is Brock resident of? Babel_17 Feb 2016 #13
The pile of shit slope cali Feb 2016 #14
He wields a lot of influence Babel_17 Feb 2016 #26
How much you want to bet.... daleanime Feb 2016 #28
He's admitted to acting horrifically to Hill Babel_17 Feb 2016 #32
I'll take that bet. Rick Famuyiwa who wrote and directed also made 'Dope' and 'The Wood' so I do not Bluenorthwest Feb 2016 #33
Hope you're right... daleanime Feb 2016 #36
Thank you for that heads-up! Babel_17 Feb 2016 #41
Well that's not a shady statement at all... TCJ70 Feb 2016 #16
Well, that's weak. cyberswede Feb 2016 #17
We have a right to know what she said to the most powerful banks in the country. reformist2 Feb 2016 #19
It's more than just being the most powerful banks in the country Oilwellian Feb 2016 #35
A real democrat would release the transcripts, return the speaking fees, and denounce the PACs Android3.14 Feb 2016 #21
^^This^^ farleftlib Feb 2016 #22
Uh...David? kenfrequed Feb 2016 #23
Not as slippery as the slime you are covered in David Brock FlatBaroque Feb 2016 #24
What is Hillary doing to address the fact that the American people don't trust her Cheese Sandwich Feb 2016 #25
What is she doing? noretreatnosurrender Feb 2016 #30
yep Cheese Sandwich Feb 2016 #31
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2016 #29
Brock on Anita Hill: "“a little bit nutty and a little bit slutty”. Bluenorthwest Feb 2016 #34
He hasn't changed his ways, that's the issue, imo Babel_17 Feb 2016 #45
I've seen slugs take on more vertical slopes than that d_legendary1 Feb 2016 #37
She doesn't have the nickname "Goldman Cuffs" for nothing. Avalux Feb 2016 #38
Makes me wonder... Ino Feb 2016 #39
She got fair market value? lol Hey, keep talking, this gets better all the time. Jefferson23 Feb 2016 #40
she probably promised Wall Street that passing TPP is her 1st priority amborin Feb 2016 #42
First they came for the transcripts- Martin Niemöller n/t DefenseLawyer Feb 2016 #43
it is always good sign when your attack dog compares you to a rethug krawhitham Feb 2016 #44

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
1. So if there's nothing to hide, why worry about the slippery slope, Brock?
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 10:33 AM
Feb 2016

Who was it that didn't oh, right, Mr 47% Romney was the other one who wanted to make sure none of his private speeches got released. Seems like the only reason to put in your contract that nobody but you gets to record your speeches is because you KNOW you're saying things that would hurt your electability numbers if they ever got out.

Punkingal

(9,522 posts)
8. Anyone see the irony of David Brock being described as a "top surrogate."
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 10:46 AM
Feb 2016

The destroyer of Anita Hill, the guy who helped gift us with Clarence Thomas, is a top surrogate for Hillary Clinton.

 

beedle

(1,235 posts)
9. A 'slippery slope' of TRANSPARENCY
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 10:47 AM
Feb 2016

... yeah, that would be deadly for Washington politics ... and criminals - but I repeat myself.

JonLeibowitz

(6,282 posts)
11. David Brock Just outed Clinton as a liar
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 10:49 AM
Feb 2016

"She got fair market value" vs "that is what they offered"

OopS!

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
12. Once the rubes get a taste for transparency, there'll be no stopping them!
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 10:50 AM
Feb 2016

Dumbass doesn't know that "slippery slope" is a name for a type of logical fallacy.

Babel_17

(5,400 posts)
13. What slope is Brock resident of?
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 10:51 AM
Feb 2016
“She got fair market value for her speeches. She made that decision,”


So they are a commodity, to be bought and sold.

Babel_17

(5,400 posts)
26. He wields a lot of influence
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 11:36 AM
Feb 2016

So I guess many journalists are hesitant to take him on, and want in some ways to emulate his success, which they respect. Beyond that it's hard to see why he's not more of a story, and in the news, for what he's doing.

The Clarence Thomas/Anita Hill movie is coming out, and though I don't see him being listed as being portrayed in the film, maybe it will serve as an incentive to remind the public of how he rolls.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_%28film%29

Confirmation is an upcoming American television drama film, directed by Rick Famuyiwa and written by Susannah Grant. It is about Clarence Thomas' Supreme Court nomination hearings, and the controversy that unfolded when Anita Hill came forward to say she was a victim of Thomas' sexual harassment. It stars Kerry Washington as Hill and Wendell Pierce as Clarence Thomas, as well as Erika Christensen, Jennifer Hudson, Greg Kinnear, Jeffrey Wright, Bill Irwin, and Eric Stonestreet in supporting roles. The film will air on the cable network HBO on April 16, 2016.[1]


Given all current focus on The Supreme Court, I expect this movie to have a great chance of getting a lot of attention.

Babel_17

(5,400 posts)
32. He's admitted to acting horrifically to Hill
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 11:50 AM
Feb 2016

He's admitted to acting horrifically to Hill, and to having been a stranger to the truth, so just a reminder of that will be good.

Babel_17

(5,400 posts)
41. Thank you for that heads-up!
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 01:28 PM
Feb 2016

For younger DU members who don't remember the woman for whom Brock spent so much time and effort in his attempts at smearing her, here's a quick reminder. It's from the previously released documentary.



cyberswede

(26,117 posts)
17. Well, that's weak.
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 10:54 AM
Feb 2016

After all this time, THAT is what he came up with as a defense for not releasing the transcripts? Oy veh.

reformist2

(9,841 posts)
19. We have a right to know what she said to the most powerful banks in the country.
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 10:57 AM
Feb 2016

If Hillary doesn't release them, every journalist in America should be searching for whistleblowers and leakers who will.

Oilwellian

(12,647 posts)
35. It's more than just being the most powerful banks in the country
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 11:59 AM
Feb 2016

It is the very same banks that almost destroyed the world economy, acted as predatory lenders in black communities, and who now have control of our government and laws.

I think we have a right to know why Hillary was so dang expensive, but well worth the price!

kenfrequed

(7,865 posts)
23. Uh...David?
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 11:23 AM
Feb 2016

Giuliani isn't a Democrat, and wouldn't get the support of Democrats in the primary. Maybe you are thinking of the wrong party. You know, the one that traffics in lies and bullshit and tons of campaign cash.

noretreatnosurrender

(1,890 posts)
30. What is she doing?
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 11:47 AM
Feb 2016

Why she is allowing her campaign and it's surrogates to distort her opponent's record to give the voters the impression that they are no better than she is thus ensuring that her dishonesty won't be an issue. Voila!

Response to TubbersUK (Original post)

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
34. Brock on Anita Hill: "“a little bit nutty and a little bit slutty”.
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 11:57 AM
Feb 2016

Those who proudly stand with David Brock are hard to take seriously as advocates for women.

Babel_17

(5,400 posts)
45. He hasn't changed his ways, that's the issue, imo
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 01:44 PM
Feb 2016

He apologized to Professor Hill, and that meant something to me. I was also impressed by his book, Blinded by the Right. But I think when you're turning a page on that kind of behavior, you need to really turn the page. He's been too underhanded recently for me to consider his conversion as totally sincere.

Another reminder of the person he tried to smear.



Huh, this just in: http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2016/02/hillary_campaign_needs_a_scapegoat_david_brock_a_leading_candidate.html

Key Democratic players are worried that Hillary Clinton’s super-PAC ally David Brock could be hurting her image and hampering her chances of winning the presidency.

In interviews over the past month, Clinton donors, fundraisers and operatives have told The Hill that the concerns about Brock’s comments, particularly some of his attacks on Bernie Sanders, stretch all the way to the top of Clinton’s political machinery.


http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/269791-david-brocks-hardball-tactics-worry-clinton-supporters

A leading figure in the Democracy Alliance, the liberal equivalent of the conservative Koch brothers’ donor network, said donors he associates with would like to put Brock “back in the can.”

“I have heard people express concern that what he does could be harmful generally” to the campaign, the donor said.

Longtime Clinton fundraiser Bill Brandt, an Illinois-based businessman and personal friend of Bill Clinton, said of Brock, “David is well meaning but I think perhaps like a zealot. He should keep it in check a bit. I don’t think this needs to be about tearing Bernie down. … It’s getting nasty and it doesn’t need to be.”

d_legendary1

(2,586 posts)
37. I've seen slugs take on more vertical slopes than that
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 01:04 PM
Feb 2016

I call it more of a conflict of interest than a slippery slope.

Avalux

(35,015 posts)
38. She doesn't have the nickname "Goldman Cuffs" for nothing.
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 01:13 PM
Feb 2016

You bet it would be a slippery slope, directly to the implosion of her campaign and well-constructed public facade.

Ino

(3,366 posts)
39. Makes me wonder...
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 01:14 PM
Feb 2016

...what other "sorts of things" should be looked at! What else is hiding in her closet, hmmm? Clinton Foundation accounting sheets perhaps?

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
40. She got fair market value? lol Hey, keep talking, this gets better all the time.
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 01:17 PM
Feb 2016

Do they have any fucking idea how much they are reminding voters
how this wink wink relationship works?

krawhitham

(4,643 posts)
44. it is always good sign when your attack dog compares you to a rethug
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 01:40 PM
Feb 2016

Hey the republicans did it so it must be ok

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