2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumIs it me or are we seeing an influx of new "pollsters"?
Who are these people? Who owns them? What ties do they have to the media conglomerates? What ties do they have to the Romney campaign?
All these wild pro-Romney swings with these new "pollsters" has me scratching my head and wondering?
elleng
(131,107 posts)I'm not paying attention to ANY of them, henceforth.
Panasonic
(2,921 posts)Douglas Kaplan has been banned here (Gravismarketing) but I already may have discovered another incarnation, and having a thorough review.
Darkhawk32
(2,100 posts)FrenchieCat
(68,867 posts)into Corporate Media coffers, so no....it won't be exposed till the damage has been done.
and we are being used to perpetuate the fraud.
MADem
(135,425 posts)regnaD kciN
(26,045 posts)...and, like PPP (whose poll tomorrow will show a Romney lead), tends to skew slightly Democratic. In the case of these two polls, it appears to not so much be any bias on their part, but simple bad timing for our side, as they did most of their polling right in the middle of the strong-but-short-lived Romney debate bounce.
As to Gravis, We Ask America, Purple Strategies, etc...I'll give you those ones.
Cicada
(4,533 posts)Gravis, We Ask America (owned by Illinois Manufacturer's Assoc), Civitas (owned by rabidly right Citizens United I think), Wenzel (polls for insane right World Net Daily), popping up. I assume they're trying to alter impressions established pollsters create. Example - in 2010 Rasmussen was the least accurate pollster with final state-wide polls averaging 4% more Republican than election results, the biggest pro-Repub bias in 2010. Oct 4 they polled FL and got Dem Nelson leading Repub Mack by 11. Same day We Ask America had Nelson tied with Mack. When you're 11 points more pro-Republican than Rasmussen, you're WAY out there. Earlier one of them had a Florida poll with only 10% in the sample under age 50 (in 2008 50% of FL voters were under 50). So be skeptical.
Proud Liberal Dem
(24,437 posts)I have TPM's Polltracker on my phone and I keep getting these alerts for polls from some brand new pollster I've never heard of before.
graham4anything
(11,464 posts)My favorite site is electoral-vote.com
This year (he has been doing this for fun and friends in 2004 then went bigger in 2008 and now, he this year finally made a separate NON-rasmussen page which shows the daily differences
That be known, I think Karl Rove and the boys made the new pollsters to set the agenda
The lore is Ras would be wrong until the final poll, made that one correct so he would have subscribers flock back next year by saying he was accurate.
When there is in an important event, Ras tends to up Obama so after the important event he makes a big Romney number, thereby the swing is awful for Obama.
Add a few companies and then voila, it looks like a shift and he wants people to think that.
So when the debbie downers and sad sams in the media and here at DU put Obama down, it is really playing into their hands to do so.(you all have a right to do as you please, but it is a known Rove technique-
same as Rove takes the best point of someone (Obama is truthful, Mitt is a liar, and twists it like Mitt did.)
bushisanidiot
(8,064 posts)and a lot of others poll people via landline, which almost no one has anymore except
older folks who get all of their info from fox news.
if they were allowed to poll people with cell phones, the polls would show a 10 point
lead for the President.