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FlatBaroque

(3,160 posts)
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 01:52 PM Feb 2016

Did Secretary of State Hillary Clinton Enable the Coup in Honduras?

Did Secretary of State Hillary Clinton Enable the Coup in Honduras?

On June 28, 2009, when Hillary Clinton was Secretary of State, democratically elected Honduran President Manuel Zelaya was overthrown by a military coup. The United Nations, the European Union, and the Organization of American States condemned the coup, and on July 5, Honduras was suspended from the OAS.
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On August 7, fifteen House Democrats, led by Rep. Raúl Grijalva, sent a letter to the Administration which began, "As you know, on June 28th, 2009 a military coup took place in Honduras," and said: "The State Department should fully acknowledge that a military coup has taken place and follow through with the total suspension of non-humanitarian aid, as required by law."

Why wasn't U.S. aid to Honduras suspended following the coup? The justification given by Clinton's State Department on August 25 for not suspending U.S. aid to Honduras was that events in Honduras were murky and it was not clear whether a coup had taken place. Clinton's State Department claimed that State Department lawyers were studying the murky question of whether a coup had taken place.

This justification was a lie, and Clinton's State Department knew it was a lie. By July 24, 2009, the State Department, including Secretary Clinton, knew clearly that the action of the Honduran military to remove President Zelaya on June 28, 2009 constituted a coup. On July 24, U.S. Ambassador to Honduras Hugo Llorens sent a cable to top U.S. officials, including Secretary of State Clinton, with subject: "Open and Shut: The Case of the Honduran Coup," thoroughly documenting the assertion that "there is no doubt" that the events of June 28 "constituted an illegal and unconstitutional coup."


I admire Hillary Clinton's ability to lie about EVERYTHING.
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catnhatnh

(8,976 posts)
4. That's interesting
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 02:04 PM
Feb 2016

I wonder how many common Hispanic street terms are used to describe Clinton and her actions?

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
3. 200 Aguan peasants killed for cheap oil palm, scores of transwomen, dozens of journalists,
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 02:03 PM
Feb 2016

a separate rape unit in the police, a death to any hope of democratization, a dozen LIBRE candidates murdered in an election stolen just to loot the country's pension fund

and it wasn't even to protect economics or to butter up Facusse or to give Lanny Davis a feather in his cap so his commissions get bigger
she simply thought Honduras had too much democracy and worked her ass off to keep Zelaya out and have a new election to recognize as legitimate
vvvvv

FlatBaroque

(3,160 posts)
5. As usual with the Clinton's, the true, unvarnished story
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 02:07 PM
Feb 2016

is always far, far worse than what is reported.

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
7. self-response, but this primary isn't about getting XYZ for ourselves, nor even any more about
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 02:12 PM
Feb 2016

pointing out the parts of a system that stops us from getting the XYZ that 70-90% of the country wants, but about what sort of country we want to be: we can count on the Pubs to openly say we should attack a country at random every 5 years so Russia and Islamistan don't dare make a move, but when a Dem endorses all that it doesn't just double the support for war but makes it unanimous national policy

had Sanders not run this would all be a nonissue: DU and Kos and Mother Jones and CommonDreams would still be keeping up the good fight, most Dems would be shocked and sickened as she talks up Kissinger, we'd post some Venture Bros. jokes, but the vast mass of Dem voters would still merrily hold their nose against a Trump victory: better luck next time, we'll daydream about a new FDR for 4-12 more years while the lights go out and our hearts skip beats in the night thinking about our college debts

after all, we're well-used to compromising what we want for victory, for talking tough about the party's putrefaction, its corruption and Protean miming of whatever shittery the GOP proposed 2 years before, but then feeling obliged to say in the next paragraph that we'll knuckle under and support the candidate whoever it may be

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