Hillary Clinton: 'I Don't Believe' I Have Ever Lied - NBCNews

[WillyT]

Hillary Clinton: 'I Don't Believe' I Have Ever Lied
by Alex Seitz-Wald - NBCNews
Feb 19 2016, 1:12 pm ET

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Democratic presidential front-runner Hillary Clinton, who struggles with perceptions of dishonesty in polls, said Thursday that she doesn't believe she has ever told a lie and vowed to do her best to be honest going forward.

Jimmy Carter famously pledged to the American people: "I will never lie to you." Clinton didn't quite go there when asked during an interview with CBS News if she could give a similar promise.

"You're asking me to say, 'Have I ever <lied>?' I don't believe I ever have. I don't believe I ever have. I don't believe I ever will. I am going to do the best I can to level with the American people," Clinton told anchor Scott Pelley.

Clinton also faced some questions about honesty during MSNBC's Democratic town hall in Las Vegas Thursday night.

"It is obviously troubling that people have questions about me, which I will do my best to answer," Clinton said. "So people are really asking, 'is she in it for herself or is she in it for me?' I've always been somebody who believed and raised in my family and my faith that I, with my blessings, had an opportunity and an obligation to do what I could to help others. And that's what I will do as president."

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Link: http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/hillary-clinton/hillary-clinton-i-don-t-believe-i-have-ever-lied-n521776

[liberal_at_heart]

1. She is a word smith. I will give her that.

[roguevalley]

34. there is zero self awareness in this person. its a pathology of some sort.

[CharlotteVale]

40. Sure looks that way.

[Dragonfli]

46. I believe it is a pathology and that she may not even know she is lying when she does it

Pathological lying (also called pseudologia fantastica and mythomania), is a behavior of habitual or compulsive lying.[1][2] It was first described in the medical literature in 1891 by Anton Delbrueck.[2] Although it is a controversial topic,[2] pathological lying has been defined as "falsification entirely disproportionate to any discernible end in view, may be extensive and very complicated, and may manifest over a period of years or even a lifetime".[1] The individual may be aware they are lying, or may believe they are telling the truth.

[scscholar]

2. There. She has confirmed it.

[TTUBatfan2008]

3. Sniper fire in Bosnia

Will the media decide to revisit that?

[TTUBatfan2008]

16. Awesome.

[jwirr]

62. +1

[Vinca]

4. She's making me wish I ran a political ad agency.

Splice this clip with the one about the barking dog who sniffs out liars and you've got campaign gold . . . for the other side.

[PonyUp]

13. It's been done, sorta.

[berni_mccoy]

25. OMG.

[Punkingal]

5. "I don't believe I have ever lied"

Doesn't she FUCKING know? (Excuse my language, but really, of all the ridiculous answers.)

[ebayfool]

70. Of course she knows! It's coming out on her server emails, now.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511279153

Only three years earlier, Clinton wooed organized labor during her presidential campaign with promises to oppose those same deals. She called the South Korea agreement “inherently unfair.” She also said, “I will do everything I can to urge the Congress to reject the Colombia Free Trade Agreement.” Clinton has lately courted organized labor’s support for her current presidential bid by pledging to oppose the 12-nation Trans-Pacific Partnership agreement, a deal she repeatedly touted while secretary of state.


That's lying.
To labor, unions , voters - and she damn well remembers it.

[PonyUp]

6. Under sniper fire, named after Sir Edmund Hillary, dead broke leaving White House, etc. n/t

[Cheese Sandwich]

7. Hillary please just address the issue of why don't people TRUST you.

She can't keep ignoring that. She's sinking and going to take the whole country down with her.

[arcane1]

8. When she repeated Bush's Iraq lies verbatim, was that lying or does parrotting not count?

[GreatGazoo]

9. Let's ask Obama...

[dana_b]

18. man, that's painful to watch again n/t

[MelissaB]

24. It goes to show that there is nothing she won't say or do to become president.

[dana_b]

12. maybe she doesn't believe that she has

and that is a problem. Because if she was honest, she would say "I probably have at some point in my life. Now regarding such and such an issue, or that issue, no... " and then gone on to speak about the things that she is accused of lying about. THAT would make people listen and maybe give her the benefit of the doubt.

[Katashi_itto]

14. She doesn't know?

[seaotter]

15. " I did not have a truth lapse with that position" !!!

Depends on your definition of "ever".

[cyberswede]

17. "I don't believe..." - even SHE doesn't believe herself.

[nichomachus]

37. Lying is when you deliberately tell an untruth. You either know you did or not.

Someone may say something that's not true without being aware of the truth, but that's not considered a lie. That's considered being mistaken.

Have you ever lied is a "yes-or-no" question.

Hillary's excursion into weasel language answers it loud and clear. -- Yes.

[whatchamacallit]

42. Lol!

[farleftlib]

43. Oh man that never gets old

I laughed harder today seeing it for the second time.

[PonyUp]

51. Damn that's funny!!! nt

[azmom]

69. OMG. Too funny.

[boomer55]

19. you are shittin me? seriously? great example woo woo out of touch narcissistic career politician

[Jarqui]

20. Just wow.

No Washington politician has lied more since Dick Nixon. She's probably lied more because the media back then would nail politicians when they caught them lying.

There were several lies or deceptions last night.

[hifiguy]

36. I came of age, politically, during Watergate

and have been an amateur Nixonologist ever since. Herself reminds me more if Tricky Dick every day, right down to the Kissinger connection. WAKE UP, people!

[Jokerman]

21. Homer Simpson: "I don't believe that anything I've ever done was wrong."

Denial is a powerful thing.

[TheBlackAdder]

22. That's a Psychological Test Question in the MMPI-2, THOSE WHO DENY IT ARE BEING DECEPTIVE!

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Everyone lies from time to time... It's a trick question and those who are deceptive fall for it!


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[Faux pas]

23. I loved the

'Oh Shit' look on her face when he called her out. Priceless!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Donkees]

26. Can't spell BELIEVE without L-I-E

[cui bono]

27. Depends on what your definition of the word 'lie' is.

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[DisgustipatedinCA]

28. Ouch. That's not a headline any candidate wants to see directed at them.

Shades of "what the meaning of is is".

[6chars]

67. Bernie won't touch it, but could look bad in fall ads

if Trump or whoever wants to make her look dishonest.

[DisgustipatedinCA]

68. Agreed. He has no need to comment on this. The rest of us have this one covered.

[Ferd Berfel]

29. A Pathological liar would never realize it.

[peacebird]

30. Sniper fire in Bosnia was a lie she told repeatedly. There is video of it.

[SixString]

31. K & R.

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[MisterP]

32. there's ways around that

[libtodeath]

33. She just simply cant recall if she has ever lied.

[Jackilope]

55. She will "look into it". n/t

[hifiguy]

35. Sure. And Nixon wasn't a crook either.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

38. Yep. She was being ever so "helpful" when she voted for Bush's wars.

[farleftlib]

39. She has an abusive personality - she uses lies and manipulation

As I said in an earlier post, it seems to me that Hillary lives in a fantasy world where she needs to be president, not only for herself and her ambition, but for us. To her we are too stupid to know what's best for us so she lies. In this context her lie is not only excusable, it's what's necessary and better for us in the end. She gets really miffed when confronted with her lies because she thinks she's doing it for us, because we're too stupid to know how much we need her. So then she lies about the lying. And gets even angrier because in her mind we just don't get it.

She infantilizes us. She has the experience and she's going to be the boss goddamit!

[whatchamacallit]

41. Everyone has told a lie sometime in their life

Only psychos say stuff like that.

[Fronkonsteen]

44. Is she reminding anyone else of this guy:

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[Buns_of_Fire]

45. Outstanding! In honor of the occasion, I've resurrected one of my old sig lines...

So there.

[mak3cats]

47. Simply..... must..... channel.....

[amborin]

48. Pathological liars deny like that; she's a pathological liar

[thesquanderer]

49. Best part is at the end, the gender card

Clinton and her allies have alleged that she is held to a different standard when it comes to honesty than other politicians because of her gender and long history in politics.

So she's complaining that it's okay for male politicians to lie, and she shouldn't be held to a higher standard than that. Priceless.

[WillyT]

50. LOL !!! - Good Catch !!!

[Duckhunter935]

53. not surprising at all

She leans on that excuse a lot it seems.

[desmiller]

52. hmmm.......

[nadinbrzezinski]

54. I admit, I would have used that as a headline

That one writes itself.

Oy

[BillZBubb]

56. That's priceless. I guess she's going after the George Washington voters.

She feels the obligation to help others too--particularly the Wall Street elite.

[amborin]

57. that is her lie #934,176

[renate]

58. well, there's really no other way she could have answered that

The sniper fire in Bosnia story. Which I don't blame her for. Memory is a slippery thing. Last week's NOVA was in part about how easy it is to plant false memories in people.

But she knows, now, that that wasn't true, so if she'd said "No, I've never ever lied," all day we'd be watching footage of her getting off the plane in Bosnia sans sniper fire. So I think she did the best she could, unless she'd decided to address Bosnia right that minute to get it out of the way, which would have been tough to do on the fly.

She's had a long and well documented public life; there's no way there aren't things in there that couldn't be cast as lies. I'm not a fan (though I'd certainly vote for her if she were the nominee), but I don't hold her answer against her either way.

[DJ13]

59. So she lies about lying?

True comedy.

[PatrickforO]

60. I wish I could feel gleeful as many on this thread seem to.

But all I feel is a sense of sorrow, of being somehow soiled.

When Bernie says, "This is my viewpoint on such and such, and here's what I want to do," you just know that a) it really IS what he wants to do, and b) he's darned well gonna try.

Clinton gave some really good answers at the most recent town hall in LV, answers I really liked, but I can remember remarking to my wife, "I wish I could believe her." Because I didn't. I didn't then and I don't now.

It's just sick. I'm so sorry for her, and for us if we make her our nominee. There's absolutely nothing good about this.

[DJ13]

64. Clinton gave some really good answers at the most recent town hall in LV, answers I really liked,

........... but I can remember remarking to my wife, "I wish I could believe her." Because I didn't. I didn't then and I don't now.


She's so busy trying to be everyone to everybody in an effort to win that her words mean nothing to anybody.

[UglyGreed]

61. .

[frylock]

63. Pathological liars never do.

[Generic Other]

65. It depends on the meaning of the word "lie" of course

She sounds just like George Washington, eh?

[Live and Learn]

66. Reminds me of this:

[Odin2005]

71. She even lies about her lying!