2016 Postmortem
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Hillary Clintons cynical race appeals: The revenge of neoliberal identity politicsClinton has adopted notably more progressive language on identity politics this campaign. But to what end?
Daniel Denvir - Salon
Friday, Feb 19, 2016 04:58 AM PST

Hillary Clinton (AP Photo/) (Credit: AP/Bryan R. Smith)
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Hillary Clinton, scraping the bottom of the barrel in her attempts to discredit Bernie Sanders, is now repeatedly making the case that democratic socialism is too narrowly tailored to accommodate a true rainbow coalition. Never mind that the rise of Bill Clintons corporate-aligned Democratic Leadership Council served to marginalize the forces represented by Jesse Jacksons actual Rainbow Coalition within the party.
If we broke up the big banks tomorrow, and I will if they deserve it would that end racism? Clinton asked a Nevada crowd last week. No! they roared back again and again as she criticized Bernie Sanders purportedly single-issue agenda. Would that end sexism? Would that end discrimination against the LGBT community? Would that make people feel more welcoming to immigrants overnight?
No! No! and No! the shouts came, refracting across the funhouse mirrors of 20th century liberal politics.
Clinton is panicked, terrified that a growing number of non-white voters will not back her reflexively in the Democratic primary. Seeping in through polls and pronouncements geared to manage expectations ahead of the Nevada caucuses, there is a creeping sense that Sanders might just attract not only white women but a surprising number of the people of color that pundits describe as Clintons firewall. This is American politics at peak neoliberalism, where a distorted version of identity politics is used to defend an oligarchy and a national security state, celebrating diversity in the management of exploitation and warfare.
I think its very cynical, says Rutgers historian Donna Murch, the author of a recent New Republic article titled The Clintons War on Drugs: When Black Lives Didnt Matter. Saying that political economy doesnt matter to black people, I think that that is terrible. Especially when you look at the impact of what happened with the subprime crisis.
Clinton, who not so long ago bragged that Obama had failed to attract the support of hardworking Americans, white Americans, is now tweeting through the lens of intersectionality and entreating white voters on the campaign trail to recognize our privilege and practice humility. Clinton, however, is using racial justice against class-based grievances as a tool to attack Sanders from the right. Her campaign has gone so far as to suggest that Sanders pledge to make public universities tuition-free is racist because it would exclude private historically black colleges and universities. Only this campaign, this year, could cause a Democrat to suggest that free public education is racist.
What identity politics means depends on whom you ask...
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More: http://www.salon.com/2016/02/19/hillary_clintons_cynical_race_appeals_the_revenge_of_neoliberal_identity_politics/
MisterP
(23,730 posts)and it doesn't matter what you're saying as long as you're ANGRY and VALIDATED and WE WILL NOT BE SILENCED WE WILL NOT BE SILENCED WE WILL NOT BE SILENCED
they're rent-a-radicals, plop 'em down and watch 'em chant
http://sadydoyle.tumblr.com/post/136215579983/cchristina-hendricks-im-not-a-phony-never
once reality reasserts itself as a proper topic for politics, you can't scream anymore that jokes that Clinton's favorite jazz musician is Kenny G count as cishetonormative silencing
http://www.salon.com/2016/02/02/bernie_bros_stop_this_meme_your_dumb_joke_about_hillarys_music_taste_isnt_funny_its_predictably_sexist/
noretreatnosurrender
(1,890 posts)Donna Murch was mentioned in this post. She had a great piece in the Washington Post.
Five Myths about Martin Luther King, Jr.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/five-myths-about-martin-luther-king/2016/01/15/4094b44a-ba62-11e5-829c-26ffb874a18d_story.html?postshare=2271452898258646&tid=ss_fb
WillyT
(72,631 posts)Senator Tankerbell
(316 posts)Thanks!
uponit7771
(93,532 posts)... while she was in IA and NH... but now West is taking a VERY VERY low profile while in the SEC states?
dreamnightwind
(4,775 posts)I very much agree with the points given in your excerpt, it has been obvious for quite some time how identity politics are being used as a wedge to distract people from focusing on systematic reform. There is room for all of it, it doesn't have to be either-or, and Sanders knows this.
The series of questions/points Hillary was asking are disingenuous. Economic democratization won't end racism, no, and Bernie knows that.
How will Hillary end racism? She won't, and more than Bernie will.
What else won't she do? She won't be a credible force for economic reform, she's a neoliberal who will use people like Larry Summers to continue screwing over all of us to the advantage of the extremely wealthy
KoKo
(84,711 posts)Snip from the article:
Last week, Clinton performed that very sort of sleight of hand, mobilizing Congressional Black Caucus members to not only bash Sanders but chide young black voters for their naiveté. The entity that actually endorsed Clinton, however, was the CBC PAC, governed by a 20-member board that includes 11 lobbyists working on behalf of companies including student loan giant Navient, Newport cigarette maker Lorillard Tobacco, and OxyContin manufacturer Purdue Pharma, according to the Intercept.
Clinton hopes black voters are a monolith, and treats them as such
Generally speaking, Clintons strategy is to secure across-the-board support from party elites and leaders of established liberal and constituency-based organizations. This approach reaches its zenith with black voters, who the strategy presumes are more eager to do whatever leaders tell them than others. Its an approach reminiscent of how immigrant voters were described during the Tammany hall era of urban political machines. In the process, a lot of internal political conflict and difference within the black electorate is obscured.
Liberal_Stalwart71
(20,450 posts)exercising our own judgment. I don't understand why white people are so eager to insult black voters who have been the most loyal Democratic voters.
Both sides--Hillary and Bernie--do this. These charges leveled at HRC is the exact same way Bernie Sanders supporters have been treating black people. There's no difference.
The condescension is absolutely disgusting and we are watching this play itself out.
The more Sanders fanatics talk down to, insult, and otherwise offend with their arrogance and racist paternalism, the more it's a turn off.
Arrogance and condescension will not get me to vote for Bernie Sanders, who I once was a supporter of.
TheBluestEye
(97 posts)I have experienced sincere attempts by Bernie supporters to make the case for voting for him. I don't see how pointing out the failure of Bill Clinton's criminal justice reform is insulting. I don't see how pointing out Hillary Clinton's racial pandering is offensive.
I can understand that arrogance and condescension wouldn't get anyone to vote for either candidate. What I am trying to understand is why Clinton supporters seem to think that Hillary's fawning and flattery will.
Liberal_Stalwart71
(20,450 posts)DisgustipatedinCA
(12,530 posts)Liberal_Stalwart71
(20,450 posts)DEAL WITH IT!!
DisgustipatedinCA
(12,530 posts)Green Texan
(31 posts)You're throwing a tantrum. Every race has been brought into this. Bernie's supporters are always being criticized. You are a Hillary supporter, and all you have is desperate attacks and lies.
Liberal_Stalwart71
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farleftlib
(2,125 posts)The new way to squelch criticism of Clinton and defense of Bernie's reputation is to claim either one is a racial attack. It's blatant and I ain't buying it.
Number23
(24,544 posts)was, in your view, simply "trolling?"
When ACTUAL black people created the berniesoblack hash tag on Twitter to counter the relentless trolling from Sanders supporters, that was actually the BLACK people doing the trolling??
The comments from Occupy, Thom Hartman and even MINORITY SANDERS SUPPORTERS about how horrible many of Sanders white supporters were being to black people online was the trolling itself and not a response to being trolled themselves? The article by a black female attendee of Netroots Nation that she actually felt "unsafe" there because of white, male Sanders supporters was the trolling? http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/7/22/1404615/-A-black-woman-s-negative-encounter-with-a-Sanders-supporter-after-NN15-BlackLivesMatter-protest
This video by a bi-racial Sanders supporter castigating Sanders supporters for their relentless attacks against Black Lives Matter and black social media users was trolling?
The comments from Ta-nehesi Coates about the trolling he'd received from white Sanders supporters after his pieces on reparations were released was the actual trolling?
This is a simply fascinating tale you're telling. Utterly fascinating.
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Number23
(24,544 posts)Including from personal, one on one, face to face experience as I showed in the Daily Kos link.
That you are so quick to dismiss their opinions and experiences is even more fascinating than your original tale.
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Number23
(24,544 posts)of the black people who were complaining about the attacks they'd received from Sanders supporters "were really of color."
For someone who tells no tales, you sure change tacks quickly. But I get why.
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Number23
(24,544 posts)Again, your initial "point" was that you believed that not even half of the folks who have written extensively about the racist trolling they've received from Sanders supporters "were even of color." And you have apparently based that on absolutely nothing beyond your own anecdotal experience on social media while conveniently overlooking the BEYOND extensive body of writing that has been done on this topic by minority and female pundits and regular social media participants. That's squarely on you. Take a second and read up.
I don't see how I contradicted myself by saying that there may have been a "few" incidents.
You didn't make that point until now but not before you castigated the opinions of minorities that have well documented what's been going on as "probably not even people of color". Don't feel bad, though. I'm having almost as much trouble keeping up with your train of thought as you are.
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Number23
(24,544 posts)But I could plaster this entire thread with story after story from minorities detailing how many have felt browbeaten and mistreated by some of Sanders more fervent supporters. There is a thread in this forum right now where a well known Hispanic/labor activist says she felt disrespected by Sanders supporters. But I'm sure you just missed that.
As for your idiotic "who sent you?" bit I decided to ignore it as a kindness to you. Hint: It's not nearly as clever or relevant as you apparently think that it is.
I see beyond the afrocentric avatars. You aren't fooling anyone.
Does my avatar bother you darling??
If you can even tell me what my avatar is without googling, I will be incredibly impressed.
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Number23
(24,544 posts)people of color too? Since that seems to be your MO in the what, five days that you've been here?? That it's the black people and the brown people that are the problem?
Edit: Actually you've been here seven years but only felt compelled to start posting and speaking up in order to "chastise" the minority posters here! How very, very curious!
We know why you really won't answer the question. Here's a hint for you, your deflection isn't working either. Nice try though.
Let me reiterate, your "who sent you?" bit makes no sense. It is an incredibly stupid comment that has no bearing on anything. As I mentioned to you before, I ignored it out of a kindness.
Your avatar doesn't bother me, but I do find it a bit obvious.
You're right. I should have avatar'ed or named myself after an incredibly powerful and tragically written tale about the dangers of self-loathing.
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Number23
(24,544 posts)from a different perspective from what she was able to hear. Everybody is always lying about Sanders! And it's usually people with melanin, even though you've already said that you don't even believe that half the people of color who have complaints about Sanders or his supporters are really people of color.
I defended Bernie supporters and that makes me a racist? Good one. Good one.
Wow. Leave off the fact that I never said that or even implied it, this comment is incredibly telling. Sounds alot like the type of folks that the countless articles have been written about. People who constantly screamed that they have been called "racist" when no one has come close to doing that or who holler that someone is calling Sanders a "racist" when no one has come close to doing that either. I've never seen a self-identified black person actually do that before. What a strange and interesting person you are.
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Number23
(24,544 posts)I'm beginning to understand why this 7 year old account has suddenly leapt into action. Talk about seeing "right through" somebody.
As I said, I provided multiple examples of the harassment. I provided a video, I shared that a renowned liberal radio host and a massive progressive organizations had made comments, I shared a Kos diary, a hash tag and an acclaimed intellectual. And you've ignored and dismissed every single last one of them so that you can pretend that none of this has happened and that the big, mean people of color are lying about Bernie, lying about being people of color, lying about EVERYTHING!1!!one
You on the other hand, have provided nothing but dishonest and stale talking points about "calling somebody racist" which is a classic attempt at deflection usually used by NON people of color to change a subject brought up by people of color that they SERIOUSLY don't want brought up. There are folks who use that same tack around here, folks who have done nothing but chase after and minimize posters of color and our perspectives. Seems they've found a new friend in you. Congrats. Seems you guys deserve one another.
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bravenak
(34,648 posts)Response to bravenak (Reply #27)
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Number23
(24,544 posts)was because you were so clearly not really a black person even though you kept saying that you were. That's what I meant downthread when I talked about "seeing right through you."
I don't know how MIRT got hip to you because I never alerted on any of your ridiculous posts.
But either way... 
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DisgustipatedinCA
(12,530 posts)You're just like the rest of us--we're all working slobs, and we do what we can. But I can't imagine any candidate is going to get on his or her knees and beg you. Pick someone, or don't. That's on you.
Liberal_Stalwart71
(20,450 posts)and deal with it. I don't need your begging, condescension or rudeness.
I vote the way I want.
Black voters vote the way we want.
End of story!
Stop telling us to "pick someone". We know what we're doing. You don't get to tell us to do anything.
Slavery is over.
DEAL WITH IT AND MOVE ON!
DisgustipatedinCA
(12,530 posts)But in any case, it's all on you. All voters vote the way they want. You're not the only game in town, so take up your exclusivity with someone else.
Liberal_Stalwart71
(20,450 posts)to convince people to vote for your candidate and leave the insults and condescension behind.
Again, slavery is over! Black people are free to do whatever we want.
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bravenak
(34,648 posts)DisgustipatedinCA
(12,530 posts)Hey, Bravenak. Vote Sanders! Is that an example of me telling you what to do? What a damned pity.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)DisgustipatedinCA
(12,530 posts)I wasn't telling either of you what to do, but when I said to you, "vote Bernie", I used the same construction--yes, by design. Thanks for proving my point.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)DisgustipatedinCA
(12,530 posts)CentralMass
(16,971 posts)don't mean black vs white. You seem to have taken the post that you replied to as a personal affront. The "don't tell me what to do or think or how to vote" response.
How was that reply telling you how to think ? This is an exchange of information that spurs discussion. The poster waso quoting thing from the article that showes a corrupt system that institutionalizes racism and a PAC that accepts contributions from entities that prey on or are harmful to the black comminity.
If you don't agree with it countering with the reason why might be much more beneficial.
AtomicKitten
(46,585 posts)Waiting For Everyman
(9,385 posts)Unfortunately, I think the black community will find out too late what she's really up to. She must think she's mighty clever.
Be that as it may, it's just possible that Bernie may win enough support anyway.
mhatrw
(10,786 posts)
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)of the same old Divide and Conquer horseshit that the Pukes have been using for years. Only this time it is being used by the oligarchy's nominally "Democratic" operative to protect it's countless billions rather than by the Repigs exclusively.
And so many are wilfully blind to that.
WillyT
(72,631 posts)Armstead
(47,803 posts)ladjf
(17,320 posts)FlatBaroque
(3,160 posts)lumberjack_jeff
(33,224 posts)This is exactly right.
amborin
(16,631 posts)Odin2005
(53,521 posts)Manipulate one half of the Proletariat to fight the other half.
WillyT
(72,631 posts)ChimpersMcSmirkers
(3,328 posts)Color me surprised since no one knows pandering like the youngsters with Bernie's freebies. I guess they don't feel special anymore?