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2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumSalon: Only Sanders Can Win GE: 71% of Men and 64% Women Say Hillary "not honest or trustworthy"
Hillary Clinton just cant win: Democrats need to accept that only Bernie Sanders can defeat the GOP
Bernie Sanders will become our next president and it should come as no surprise to people actually paying attention
H.A. Goodman
In one major poll, Bernie Sanders is now leading Hillary Clinton nationally.
In most others, hes not far behind from the former Secretary of State.
Vermonts Senator already has an edge over Clinton in matchups with GOP opponents, dispelling Clintons electability myth.
In an average of national polls, Bernie Sanders is less than eight points from Hillary Clinton, after being over 50 points behind in 2015.
Bernie Sanders is the only Democratic candidate capable of winning the White House in 2016.
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Clinton is a liability to Democrats, and certainly not the person capable of ensuring liberal Supreme Court nominees and President Obamas legacy.
The precious and all-knowing polls already show Bernie Sanders defeating Republicans in a general election and Robert Reich has already explained why Sanders can easily win the presidency.
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....According to the latest polls, Bernie is the strongest Democratic candidate in the general election, defeating both Donald Trump and Ted Cruz in hypothetical matchups.
(The latest RealClear Politics averages of all polls shows Bernie beating Trump by a larger margin than Hillary beats Trump, and Bernie beating Cruz while Hillary loses to Cruz.)
..... now have excessive socialism for the rich (bailouts of Wall Street, subsidies for Big Ag and Big Pharma, monopolization by cable companies and giant health insurers, giant tax-deductible CEO pay packages) all of which Bernie wants to end or prevent.
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Bernie Sanders, unlike Clinton, defeats Donald Trump in a landslide of epic proportions in a general election and is the antithesis of a Republican.
Most importantly, and something the naysayers should learn, is that Bernie Sanders does better than Clinton against the GOP in a general election.
In addition, American voters dont trust Hillary Clinton.
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53.8% of all American voters have an unfavorable view of Hillary Clinton.
67% of American voters find Hillary Clinton not honest and trustworthy, compared with 59% for Donald Trump. Yes, more people trust Donald Trump.
After all, its difficult to trust a politician who completely fabricated a story about being fired upon by snipers. Like POLITIFACT states, its hard to understand how she could err on something so significant as whether she did or didnt dodge sniper bullets.
71% of men and 64% of women find Clinton not honest and trustworthy.
Bernie Sanders will become our next president and it should come as no surprise to people actually paying attention
H.A. Goodman
In one major poll, Bernie Sanders is now leading Hillary Clinton nationally.
In most others, hes not far behind from the former Secretary of State.
Vermonts Senator already has an edge over Clinton in matchups with GOP opponents, dispelling Clintons electability myth.
In an average of national polls, Bernie Sanders is less than eight points from Hillary Clinton, after being over 50 points behind in 2015.
Bernie Sanders is the only Democratic candidate capable of winning the White House in 2016.
snip
Clinton is a liability to Democrats, and certainly not the person capable of ensuring liberal Supreme Court nominees and President Obamas legacy.
The precious and all-knowing polls already show Bernie Sanders defeating Republicans in a general election and Robert Reich has already explained why Sanders can easily win the presidency.
snip
....According to the latest polls, Bernie is the strongest Democratic candidate in the general election, defeating both Donald Trump and Ted Cruz in hypothetical matchups.
(The latest RealClear Politics averages of all polls shows Bernie beating Trump by a larger margin than Hillary beats Trump, and Bernie beating Cruz while Hillary loses to Cruz.)
..... now have excessive socialism for the rich (bailouts of Wall Street, subsidies for Big Ag and Big Pharma, monopolization by cable companies and giant health insurers, giant tax-deductible CEO pay packages) all of which Bernie wants to end or prevent.
snip
Bernie Sanders, unlike Clinton, defeats Donald Trump in a landslide of epic proportions in a general election and is the antithesis of a Republican.
Most importantly, and something the naysayers should learn, is that Bernie Sanders does better than Clinton against the GOP in a general election.
In addition, American voters dont trust Hillary Clinton.
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53.8% of all American voters have an unfavorable view of Hillary Clinton.
67% of American voters find Hillary Clinton not honest and trustworthy, compared with 59% for Donald Trump. Yes, more people trust Donald Trump.
After all, its difficult to trust a politician who completely fabricated a story about being fired upon by snipers. Like POLITIFACT states, its hard to understand how she could err on something so significant as whether she did or didnt dodge sniper bullets.
71% of men and 64% of women find Clinton not honest and trustworthy.
http://www.salon.com/2016/02/19/hillary_clinton_just_cant_win_democrats_need_to_accept_that_only_bernie_sanders_can_defeat_the_gop/
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Salon: Only Sanders Can Win GE: 71% of Men and 64% Women Say Hillary "not honest or trustworthy" (Original Post)
amborin
Feb 2016
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SoLeftIAmRight
(4,883 posts)1. what - more facts?
Cut it Out
enigmatic
(15,021 posts)2. Hillary is not going to overcome this if she wins the Primaries
She just won't. It's a central part of who she is to voters.
amborin
(16,631 posts)6. she would lose the GE in a mortifying manner
Babel_17
(5,400 posts)3. Love, hate, hate to love, love to hate, another article from the guy that brings DU together
Though I think the numbers regarding Independents are the most important. Will they see Sanders as being proven a credible choice, or will they prefer Clinton, with all she entails. We'll need to campaign hard in the swing states, unless the Republicans actually collapse into the event horizon generated by their absurdity.
http://www.quinnipiac.edu/images/polling/us/us02182016_Urpfd42.pdf
quantumjunkie
(244 posts)4. Facts prevail again
cui bono
(19,926 posts)5. There is a reason most people find Hillary to be "not honest and trustworthy".
She is neither.
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Motown_Johnny
(22,308 posts)7. Also, 29% of men and 36% of women lying on Hillary's behalf. n/t
ucrdem
(15,720 posts)8. H. A. Goodman = koolaid on steroids on crack
to mix a metaphor . . .
jfern
(5,204 posts)9. 30-67 overall versus 68-25 for Bernie
amborin
(16,631 posts)10. kicking
wildeyed
(11,243 posts)11. I KNEW it was HA Goodman
just from the phrasing of the OP! Do I win a prize
Yay the HA is back! P-l-e-a-s-e. This sentence is so BAD!
The precious and all-knowing polls already show Bernie Sanders defeating Republicans in a general election and Robert Reich has already explained why Sanders can easily win the presidency.
WTF did he even say?
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