"Maybe It's That Senator Sanders Wasn't Really A Democrat Until He Decided To Run For President."

[WillyT]

Hillary... You Wouldn't Know What A Democrat Was If You Tripped Over One.

YOU, And Your Husband, Turned AGAINST New Deal Politics. And Got Fabulously Wealthy Doing It !!!

Broke... My Ass.

"Maybe it's that Senator Sanders wasn't really a Democrat until he decided to run for president. He doesn't know what the last two Democratic presidents did," she remarked, as the audience responded by booing her. "Well, it's true. It's true. You know it's true," Clinton said, shrugging her shoulders.

Link: http://www.cbsnews.com/news/hillary-clinton-bernie-sanders-not-a-democrat-before-white-house-run/

[Cali_Democrat]

1. Isn't Bernie an Independent?

At least he referred to himself as an independent prior to running for the 2016 Democratic nomination, right?

So what's the problem?

[vdogg]

2. He's damn sure running as one

For his senate seat....

[msongs]

4. you missed the part where bernie = always good and hillary = always (bad) nt

[libdem4life]

17. Isn't this victim thing getting old? n/t

[frylock]

61. It's all they have.

Maybe they're hoping for that coveted sympathy voter bloc.

[passiveporcupine]

40. Did you miss this part?

"He doesn't know what the last two Democratic presidents did"

She is insinuating he is ignorant...claiming that only a Democrat (label only) would know democratic policies when they see them. She was dismissing him for not calling himself a Democrat sooner, when in fact he has always been a better democrat (in real actions) than she has. He's the kind of person who lives his democratic ideals, he does not need a label to prove who he is.

And again...when was he a republican?


Don't play innocent. You are smarter than that.

[GreatGazoo]

46. So you're saying Bernie has cross over appeal to Independents that Hillary doesn't?

[SheilaT]

62. Yep. Have you not noticed the polling?

[Fawke Em]

65. As a fan of the Jersey-talking Wabbit, I'm stealing your sig line pic.

[leftofcool]

56. He is not a Democrat. He said so himself.

I don't see the problem.

[Cassiopeia]

57. These are the kinds of things you say

when your candidate can't win on the issues.

[Nanjeanne]

3. But they sure like it that he caucuses with them.

[DiehardLiberal]

6. Actions speak louder than labels. He has always espoused ideas more closely aligned with Dems. It

doesn't matter what he calls himself. He fought for ideals in keeping with Democratic principles. You don't have to call yourself a Christian either to behave like one. It's a(nother) non-issue for those seeking desperate measures to win.

Edit: I think I responded to the wrong post. Oh well, sentiment is the same.

[WillyT]

7. + 1,000,000,000 - What You Said !!!

[DiehardLiberal]

13. Thanks, WillyT!! Means a lot coming from you.

[WillyT]

20. Thanks...

[hifiguy]

8. This. He sounds a lot like Hubert Humphrey and Paul Wellstone

to this Minnesotan. IOW like a REAL Democrat.

[DiehardLiberal]

14. Yep!!!

[Mnpaul]

60. Biden agrees

With the 2016 Campaign heating up, Democratic candidates Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders are discussing what it means to be a progressive. For many years, Biden served in the Senate with a Minnesota politician who proudly bore that label — Paul Wellstone. Frank asked Biden whether he saw the late senator’s qualities in Sanders.

“Yeah, because they feel so fervently about what they believe in,” Biden said. “I worked with Paul. He was on my committee — the Foreign Relations Committee. But you have a lot of great senators up here. My mentor was Hubert Humphrey.”
http://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2016/02/18/vice-president-biden-talks-1-on-1-with-frank-vascellaro/

[6chars]

52. point?

Joe Lieberman caucused with them too

[Nanjeanne]

58. LIEberman was a Dem and the Dem establishments chosen VP pick

He ran as an Independent only when he lost the Senate primary to a real progressive. Republicans voted for him since there was a lousy Republican running and that's how he won. Prior to that one term he was a DEMOCRAT.

He is everything I hated about the Dem party and still do.

Don't try to talk CT politics to me. I'm from there.

So your point is basically a lousy one.

[frylock]

63. Don't forget Zell Miller (D)

I think he once caucused with Democrats as well.

[in_cog_ni_to]

5. I bet she appreciated him caucusing with the DEMOCRATS IN THE HOUSE AND SENATE for the last 25 YEARS

Did ya forget that Hill? He also is NOW a registered DEMOCRAT. At least he didn't use to be a fucking REPUBLICAN, who campaigned for REPUBLICAN GOLDWATER and he wouldn't even dream of sitting on THE BOARD OF WALMART!

Look in the mirror, sweetheart. YOUR HISTORY SUCKS.

PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE

[WillyT]

12. Oh... To Pull That Shit NOW... After Ignoring Him As Some Insignificat Nuisance For Months ???

Afraid to debate, and then asking for more as her poll numbers went south...

Chaps my hide.

He IS The REAL DEMOCRAT In this Race. Always has been.

Labels mean NOTHING at this point.

[in_cog_ni_to]

19. Takes a lot of fucking nerve, I know! As soon as her poll numbers PLUMMET, she whines about wanting

more debates. Then she gets her ASS HANDED TO HER in a LANDSLIDE WIN in NH and she whines again for another debate. Now that she sees she's going to lose Nevada, she whines again for yet another debate...and she attacks him at the Town Hall last night KNOWING HE CAN'T RESPOND to all her fucking LIES.

She is one of the most despicable people I've ever seen. I really, really detest her. She's a PATHOLOGICAL LIAR.

Not only that, she watched his Q & A! She basically CHEATED...and lied about a good and decent man who couldn't defend himself. She's the lowest of low.

PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE

[SusanCalvin]

37. "KNOWING HE CAN'T RESPOND"

Exactly.

But I also blame the networks for not putting her in a room sans TV.

[in_cog_ni_to]

42. "But I also blame the networks for not putting her in a room sans TV."

The whole thing was a set-up for Clinton...from the coin toss "Bernie WON" so Clinton went last to get the final word (as usual) - to her being allowed to watch his Q & A so she could attack him on whatever point she wanted to. Another MSM/CLINTON dog and pony show.

PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE

[DJ13]

41. Not only that, she watched his Q & A! She basically CHEATED...and lied about a good and decent man

.......... who couldn't defend himself. She's the lowest of low.

Conservatives will do ANYTHING, take any advantage to win.

Her actions are starting to prove that she is no liberal. heck she's not even a moderate where fiscal matters are concerned.

[in_cog_ni_to]

44. Completely agree! She has shown her true colors - again. 2008 REPEAT!

PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE

[dchill]

47. That's so provably true.

I can't say for sure that I've ever heard Hillary say anything that was completely true.

[kath]

26. remember, she didn't just campaign for Goldwater, but for Rockefeller in 1968. At age 21, old enough

to have known better. (She was also head of the College Republicans, at a very liberal college, at that age. In freaking *1968*.)

The same age at which Bernie was leading sit-ins and getting arrested for protesting segregation.

[in_cog_ni_to]

28. Disgusting. That tells us all we need to know.

PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE

[libtodeath]

9. I have seen Hillary supporters trash FDR so who really represents Democratic values?

[amborin]

10. She's such an unscrupulous individual

[tk2kewl]

11. she final speaks truth

And gets booed for it

[Ferd Berfel]

15. Was Hillary a democrat befroe they sold the Party to the Koch Bros?

[uponit7771]

21. Or ran over Bambi :rolleyes:

[Ferd Berfel]

23. you do know that she and BIll were instrumental in creating the DLC

which SOLD the Democratic PArty to the Koch Bros and other right wing oligarchs. right?

http://www.democrats.com/node/7789

You can tell me you don't care about this but don't tell me it doesn't matter.

[uponit7771]

24. Yeah, I know.... she'll also give Trump the keys to the White House while she's gone on a Kissenger

... boat trip.... come on!!!

This is wingerish tripe that turns into noise for people who don't believe the Clinton's are Satan spawn

[dchill]

50. The Clintons are not Satan spawn.

They've negatively affected millions of lives to line their own pockets. They are DLC.

LEAVE SATAN ALONE!

[tokenlib]

59. Damn Democrats for the Leisure Class, as I will always see them....

..no matter how they try to change their name to Three Way, or Turd Wipe, or Third Way, or whatever.

[jillan]

16. After last nite, one thing is for certain.... that talking point is now just another

broken kitchen sink.

I would be surprised if she tries that one again.

[FlatBaroque]

18. Seriously? You don't think she tries it again?

She is the most tone deaf politician in a generation.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

22. I don't vote for labels. A rose by any other name would smell as sweet. Shakespeare

[immoderate]

25. She is a supply-sider.

--imm

[krawhitham]

27. he needs to say "At least I was never a republican"

Chop her legs off on the issue

[SusanCalvin]

35. Excellent. And since it is the truth, he might possibly do it.

I leave that up to his excellent judgment.

[nc4bo]

29. Kick & Recommend!! nt

[Kalidurga]

30. I am firmly in the camp that wants who ever is going to give Republicons the most hell.

Hillary does't have it in her to take them head on. She is more of a strategist and cloak and dagger type. The problem with that is after you compromise so much you end up with stagnate wages for 24 years and states where abortion is defacto illegal as many women can't afford to drive for 24 hours wait another 24 and drive another 24 hours back home.

[juxtaposed]

31. some one that puts there neck out for the good of all in the 1960's is a democrat, a lot more than

would today. A true Democrat will walk a picket line, will get arrested, will speak for thoughs that have no voice..
A true Democrat is the salt of the earth.

[panader0]

32. K and R. Thanks Willie.

To use the term "Democrat" without knowing what it really means. Shame Hillary.

[Gore1FL]

33. Bernie is one of the few Democrats left.

It's weird that so many have bought the Reagan tax lie.

[SusanCalvin]

34. She did not "shrug."

She flipped into seriously ugly mode. I will never forget it.

[jalan48]

36. Hillary is a "Goldwater, Rockefeller, Wall Street Democrat".

[Wounded Bear]

38. I'm starting to realize something just might be true...

I heard a little tidbit about Hillary a week or so ago. Sorry I don't have a link. But one of the talking heads said it, probably on MSNBC (I know, I know, but bear with me).

Essentially he said that Hillary has never finished a campaign with approval numbers higher than she started. Even her successful ones. It always dropped. Did anyone else hear that?

I think I'm starting to realize why.

Oh well, I'll still vote for her if she wins the nomination. I can't stand anybody with a R after him, and I will definitely vote against them.

[Fuddnik]

53. Yes, I read it somewhere. Not sure where, but I do read NBCNews.com a lot.

She's already hit her ceiling, and the elevator is going down by the day.

[TDale313]

54. Lawrence O'Donnell said it.

Or at least that's where I remember hearing it. And it was worse than that if I understood it correctly. It wasn't just that they'd never ended higher than they started- that's probably to be expected given her name recognition. But that she had never had her poll numbers rise during the course of an election- in that once they started to drop, they'd never figured out how to get the trend line to go back up.

[onecaliberal]

39. Maybe it's that she is bought and paid for and looks acts and talks like republicans.

[oldandhappy]

43. She pisses me off.

Done with Hill. And with TV!! Started watching TED talks. Great for the brain.

[bbgrunt]

45. ...and that is why her campaigns turn nasty and her numbers only go down.

[AlbertCat]

48. doesn't know what the last two Democratic presidents did

I'm sure he remembers DOMA and NAFTA.

[Beowulf]

49. The DNC should thank their lucky stars

Bernie is running as a Democrat. He's bringing in a lot of fresh energy. He's offering the possibility of hope and a promise to fight for his supporters, something that's been sorely missed in the party for decades. He's capturing the mood of the country, but unlike Trump, Bernie is addressing this dissatisfaction by offering solutions for the common good. Do they really want him running as an independent? This is the future of the party. How you gonna respond DNC?

[Geronimoe]

51. He isn't a third way Democrat

who is owned by Goldman Sachs.

[Cassiopeia]

55. Bernie's strongest campaign asset is

the Clinton's.

I hope they continue with their valiant efforts.

[DJ13]

64. +1

[hifiguy]

67. Its that reverse Midas touch.

Now everything they touch turns to dog crap.

[Beacool]

66. Well, what part of that is a lie? Wasn't Sanders an Independent??????

Didn't he call himself a "democratic socialist"? Didn't he run against Democrats? Didn't he refuse to join the party for all his political life?

You're entitled to your opinion, but you’re not entitled to your own facts.