2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumColumbus NBC Poll: Ohio Statistical Deadheat (Obama 45, Romney 44)
An Ohio Poll shows Romney pulling near even with Obama
Obama 45
Romney 44
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It definitely looks like Obama took a hit in Ohio. Hopefully he will re-bound. This was one of his best states all year, and now Romney has an opening for the first time.
Everyone has to work hard and no more taking things for granted!
mgcgulfcoast
(1,127 posts)in the future, NEVER try and coast to victory.
Democat
(11,617 posts)Didn't you read DU right after the debate? It was all part of a secret plan that we were too dumb to understand.
mgcgulfcoast
(1,127 posts)oswaldactedalone
(3,491 posts)The Obama Debate Disaster will long be analyzed as the bellwhether for how not to handle a debate. I also think that debate coaches can look for increased fees as they're employed to make sure something like this never happens again.
WI_DEM
(33,497 posts)going from Obama to undecided and that if he can reassure these folks in the next debate he will get a lot of them back. He will be in Columbus today, too.
Do you know what dates this poll was taken?
TroyD
(4,551 posts)Obama is down to only a (+3) lead in today's Siena Poll for PA (43-40) but it appears that Romney's numbers aren't great either - they're appears to be a larger undecided number.
regnaD kciN
(26,045 posts)...is a "Romney lead," but a one-point Ibama lead in Ohio is a "dead heat.".
Blue Yorker
(436 posts)?
TroyD
(4,551 posts)But according to what people are saying on Twitter, NBC will not be releasing the full internals until 6:00 Pm tonight.
We'll learn more then.
TroyD
(4,551 posts)I just followed the video link from Joe Trippi on Twitter.
But I'm sure they'll be up soon.
asjr
(10,479 posts)things to their advantage. The "debate debacle" has had longer legs than I thought. I did not consider it a debacle but it seems a great many think it was. I turned off the television early this morning as I knew what was coming.
TroyD
(4,551 posts)And rightly or wrongly it looks like he was unprepared, and voters are judging him harshly for it.
He himself has admitted he was not at his best.
I think it's safe to say he will have more fight in him next time.
mgcgulfcoast
(1,127 posts)too bad the debate isnt this week. if biden stumbles its over.
DCBob
(24,689 posts)WTF are you talking about??
mgcgulfcoast
(1,127 posts)had obama showed up last week the vp debate would be meaningless, but now if biden stumbles we have major problems.
DCBob
(24,689 posts)oswaldactedalone
(3,491 posts)regarding the severity of the debate stumble.
If Biden isn't cramming like a maniac and doesn't come through like a champ, prepare for RobMe presidency.
mgcgulfcoast
(1,127 posts)WI_DEM
(33,497 posts)they are pretty good about posting their results on their website with the break down of numbers, ect. It doesn't look like they have done it as yet, however.
Politicalboi
(15,189 posts)A 70 point lead with Latinos, a 98 point lead with blacks, and yet they are almost tied?
I've never seen or played Angry Birds, but someone should make another game and call it Angry White Males, because apparently they can tie an election.
TroyD
(4,551 posts)Coming into this week, Obama had a 52-point lead with Latinos (eg. Latino Decisions) and about a 90 or so point lead with Blacks.
The Pew poll claims Romney ties Obama with women, but I find that hard to believe. I don't think that will hold up in other polls. Most women I know don't like Romney.
He was also polling at close to 2008 levels with white voters prior to last week.
WI_DEM
(33,497 posts)it's almost tied? No way!
TroyD
(4,551 posts)I don't think the internals of this poll are being released until 6:00-6:30 pm
That was just the assumption of someone above.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)TroyD
(4,551 posts)Before they hopefully settle down again to an Obama lead.
helpisontheway
(5,008 posts)Ohio then that is a wrap. Our sure fire way to keep Romney from winning was Ohio. If the people of Ohio are jumping ship despite the auto bailout then this could be the beginning of the end. And all of it is Obama's fault.
WI_DEM
(33,497 posts)GallopingGhost
(2,404 posts)Maybe I'm living in my own little fantasy world about it, but I don't believe it, and I can't even offer an explanation for why I feel that way.
I believe the Buckeye polls will rebound for Obama.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,716 posts)Cha
(297,804 posts)Which one am I suppose to believe?
CNN Poll: Ohio Stays In Obama Column After Debate
Source: TPM/CNN
Obama leads Romney 51 percent to 47 percent in the Buckeye State, a smaller advantage than the president has had in the state during the last few weeks of polling. But with Romney surging nationally on a good performance in the first presidential debate, the CNN numbers contradict four other polls fielded after the event that showed the race within 1 point, and Romney leading three of them.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014261258