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Clinton funny business going on in the Nevada caucuses? (Original Post) NWCorona Feb 2016 OP
Hillary: Ever with the dirty tricks and deceptive campaign practices. nt 99th_Monkey Feb 2016 #1
Rumble... I put my money on the Nurses. CentralMass Feb 2016 #2
Me too! peacebird Feb 2016 #3
No it's not curious... Agschmid Feb 2016 #4
It would seem but then you look at NWCorona Feb 2016 #9
You posted the same thing again. Agschmid Feb 2016 #13
No. Actually read the link. It goes into other NWCorona Feb 2016 #19
I did read it... Agschmid Feb 2016 #21
FYI NWCorona Feb 2016 #22
So who did the poll? Who made the push? Agschmid Feb 2016 #24
The poster clearly said, the Clinton campaign. cui bono Feb 2016 #28
Actually the poster *didn't* state that. Agschmid Feb 2016 #30
Within the supplied link NWCorona Feb 2016 #31
Yup, so nothing. Got it. Agschmid Feb 2016 #32
I'm not trying to convert you. NWCorona Feb 2016 #35
You don't need to convert me... I'll support the nominee. Agschmid Feb 2016 #38
Maybe. We will see after today. NWCorona Feb 2016 #41
That post meant I'd support either candidate. Agschmid Feb 2016 #43
And that's fine but I wasn't questioning that. NWCorona Feb 2016 #44
Nothing. Agschmid Feb 2016 #45
Now you're just being silly. n/t cui bono Feb 2016 #42
The nurses don't think so. And they said the Hillary people quickly changed back into blue cui bono Feb 2016 #25
The shirts have candidate names and logos. Agschmid Feb 2016 #29
That probably can't be read from across a room. cui bono Feb 2016 #33
It seems silly BUT: dana_b Feb 2016 #5
That does seem a bit odd NWCorona Feb 2016 #6
so they did not want people to confuse them with the nurses? is that a bad thing? bettyellen Feb 2016 #8
More like they seen the press. NWCorona Feb 2016 #11
They did not want to get caught. Qutzupalotl Feb 2016 #12
This makes no sense- they had mixed colors and were going to end up on the other side of the room bettyellen Feb 2016 #17
it's not to be a nurse (I'm one) dana_b Feb 2016 #18
If red shirts would make it look like there were MORE Sanders supporters how would that help? bettyellen Feb 2016 #23
Oh, that's bad. n/t vaberella Feb 2016 #27
You've got it backwards. They DID want people to confuse them with the nurses. cui bono Feb 2016 #34
Seeing how the whole idea was to go to one side of the room, how would anyone be confused? bettyellen Feb 2016 #39
You see the color associate specifically with the Nurses Assoc. in Hillary's corner and you think cui bono Feb 2016 #40
Well no- because the nurses are a well known Sanders group. No one would assume they cross over bettyellen Feb 2016 #46
That is exactly the point. Making it look like they switched their support. n/t cui bono Feb 2016 #47
Well, that is the silliest plot I have ever heard. How would such slightly people influence anyone? bettyellen Feb 2016 #48
three threads on freaking red t-shirts seems like overkill nt geek tragedy Feb 2016 #7
And really tammywammy Feb 2016 #14
Yup. Agschmid Feb 2016 #15
Well your OP chastising Bernie supporters was worse than overkill. n/t cui bono Feb 2016 #36
C'mon my fellow Berners - this is kinda silly. jillan Feb 2016 #10
I'm not saying this is true but there's been complaints NWCorona Feb 2016 #16
On top of what? Agschmid Feb 2016 #26
NO Class - No Integrity Ferd Berfel Feb 2016 #20
I'm with the majority. cui bono Feb 2016 #37

Agschmid

(28,749 posts)
4. No it's not curious...
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 04:39 PM
Feb 2016

The shirts clearly have the Hillary logo, this is the most ridiculous non story ever.

Agschmid

(28,749 posts)
13. You posted the same thing again.
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 04:58 PM
Feb 2016

These shirts look nothing alike beyond the fact that they are both red.

This is a non-story.

And it's ridiculous it keeps getting posted, can't tell the difference between shirts that clearly says "Bernie" or "Hillary"... Then I can't help you.

Agschmid

(28,749 posts)
21. I did read it...
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 05:03 PM
Feb 2016

I posts the same tweets again...

And again.

We will be hearing about this all day apparently.

NWCorona

(8,541 posts)
22. FYI
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 05:03 PM
Feb 2016

"This is just the latest in a series of questionable tactics the Hillary Clinton campaign has engaged in during the week leading up to the Nevada caucus. Earlier this week, ABC News confirmed an instance of push polling, which, as Las Vegas-based author Nolan Dalla pointed out in a recent viral blog post, comes straight from the Karl Rove playbook of dirty campaign tricks"

NWCorona

(8,541 posts)
31. Within the supplied link
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 05:11 PM
Feb 2016

"When ABC News presented the audio recording to an aide with the Clinton campaign, the aide said the campaign could neither confirm nor deny that the audio was from polling done by the campaign or an outside group affiliated with the campaign.

However, the aide argued that it was an example of “message-testing” polling, common among all campaigns."

NWCorona

(8,541 posts)
35. I'm not trying to convert you.
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 05:16 PM
Feb 2016

Make what you will and others will do the same. That said, there's a reason Hillary's trustworthy #'s are in the single digits.

Agschmid

(28,749 posts)
38. You don't need to convert me... I'll support the nominee.
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 05:20 PM
Feb 2016

But this red shirt drama is OVER THE TOP.

NWCorona

(8,541 posts)
44. And that's fine but I wasn't questioning that.
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 05:29 PM
Feb 2016

I only meant we'd see what comes of this shirt issue.

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
25. The nurses don't think so. And they said the Hillary people quickly changed back into blue
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 05:05 PM
Feb 2016

when they saw the press. It certainly woudn't be the first thing like this that Hillary has ever done. This is an illustration of both how and why her trust rating is at 6%.



**UPDATE**: In a statement to Raw Story, National Nurses United spokesperson Chuck Idelson said the red tees were not a first for Clinton supporters, and that when nurses attending the caucus pointed out the Clinton people to the press, they immediately changed back into Clinton blue tees.

Statement below:

At a large caucus at the New York casino Clinton staffers were wearing red t-shirts, despite the fact that Clinton has branded blue the entire campaign. Red is if course associated with National Nurses United, has been our color for years and well known in nurses campaigning for Sanders in red scrubs, red shirts, and even our red Bernie Buses that have been prominent in early voting states.

When our nurses walked into the room with cameras and a couple press the Clinton staffers ran over to the corner and quickly changed to blue shirts.

In our view they are trying to exploit the credibility of the nurses (just as Sanders is viewed as the most trusted candidate) to deceive voters walking into the caucuses.

http://www.rawstory.com/2016/02/national-nurses-accuses-clinton-campaign-of-trying-to-trick-bernie-sanders-voters-at-nevada-caucuses/

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
33. That probably can't be read from across a room.
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 05:14 PM
Feb 2016

You must be able to understand that when you see a big group of one color, a color that is associated with a certain organization, a color that has yet to be associated with Clinton, your brain will generally associate it with the certain organization.

So here's some questions then...

Why, when their campaign is branded as blue, did they all of a sudden start wearing red at the caucus?

Why did they change back into the blue shirts when they were pointed out to the press?

Why should anybody ever trust Hillary when she ran a dirty, sleazy campaign in 2008 and is catching up to that this time around and when she constantly lies?

Could it be a nothing story? Yes. But being that it is about Hillary that is doubtful. Based on character, or lack there of, and past actions coupled with desperation due to slipping poll numbers, it seems more than likely this was a meant as a dirty trick.

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dana_b

(11,546 posts)
5. It seems silly BUT:
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 04:43 PM
Feb 2016

"When our nurses walked into the room with cameras and a couple press the Clinton staffers ran over to the corner and quickly changed to blue shirts."

And there's pictures of it too so it does seem like they were trying to confuse the caucus goers. Hmmm...

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
17. This makes no sense- they had mixed colors and were going to end up on the other side of the room
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 04:59 PM
Feb 2016

anyway. I am not getting why the color of the T shirts makes a dimes worth of difference. I have seen both red and blue (and white) shirts for both candidates for months. Is all of that a conspiracy of some sort?

dana_b

(11,546 posts)
18. it's not to be a nurse (I'm one)
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 05:01 PM
Feb 2016

lol... but if people were looking for the nurses in the red shirts who are caucusing for Bernie, and the Clinton people, who have always been wearing blue shirts, put on the red shirts in order to confuse people, then yeah, it smells a little bit like funny tricks.

The fact that they took off their red shirts and had the blue shirts on underneath is what looks pretty slimy.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
23. If red shirts would make it look like there were MORE Sanders supporters how would that help?
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 05:04 PM
Feb 2016

If they were always planning to be on one side of the room- and both sides have been using both colors.... I don't get it. They had both red and blue shirts- probably produced by different advocacy groups. That kind of stuff happens.

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
34. You've got it backwards. They DID want people to confuse them with the nurses.
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 05:15 PM
Feb 2016

The backtracked out of it when they were pointed out to the press.

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bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
39. Seeing how the whole idea was to go to one side of the room, how would anyone be confused?
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 05:20 PM
Feb 2016

I seriously can't imagine how anyone would think up a plot like that. It's not making any sense to me.

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
40. You see the color associate specifically with the Nurses Assoc. in Hillary's corner and you think
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 05:23 PM
Feb 2016

they are for Hillary. It makes perfect sense.

Hillary's campaign has been branded as blue from the start. All of a sudden today they start wearing red shirts.

.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
46. Well no- because the nurses are a well known Sanders group. No one would assume they cross over
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 05:42 PM
Feb 2016

while wearing a Bernie shirt. If that was a "plan" it's a stupid one.

I saw red tees at her kickoff in NYC, Bernie wearing blue, Hillary red...and both teams use both colors. I think a lot of small groups are just doing what they want and people just grabbed tees and thought about it later.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
48. Well, that is the silliest plot I have ever heard. How would such slightly people influence anyone?
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 05:51 PM
Feb 2016

Makes zero sense to me.

tammywammy

(26,582 posts)
14. And really
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 04:58 PM
Feb 2016

I cannot imagine a Bernie supporter that confused that a shirt that says #imwithher and Hillary on it would "confuse" them into voting for the wrong person.

NWCorona

(8,541 posts)
16. I'm not saying this is true but there's been complaints
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 04:59 PM
Feb 2016

Of wrongdoing from Nevada before. I'd rather be on top of it rather than dealing with it afterwards.

Agschmid

(28,749 posts)
26. On top of what?
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 05:06 PM
Feb 2016

Shirt colors?

If people are fooled by that... I mean come on.

The shirts have the candidates names, the candidates logos... Oh and the bodies in them who are clearly talking about supporting a candidate.

Non-story.

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
37. I'm with the majority.
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 05:18 PM
Feb 2016

Which is why I tend to believe this story and won't dismiss it.

I don't trust her one bit.

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