Q: Which is worse? A racist or a person that uses race as a divisive tool for their own purposes

[Skwmom]

not caring about the damage it leaves in its wake? Or are they the same?

[Fearless]

1. They are the same.

[roguevalley]

23. agreed because both don't truly believe that the people they denigrate

are human. Fuck both of them.

[geek tragedy]

2. The former nt

[notadmblnd]

3. I think a person who uses race as a divisive tool for their own purposes

is a racist.

[Skwmom]

8. I think you have a point. They are both showing callous disregard for a certain class of people.

[Shandris]

4. The latter is the former.

And anyone the latter has accused is worthy of re-examination in light of that evidence.

[Kittycat]

5. We always leave the door open that a racist can have a change of heart.

It's happened in families all across this country over time.

The other issue is a conscious knowing with an intent to divide. There's something much darker about that to me. It runs the risk of creating issues where they might never have existed before.

[Skwmom]

9. Valid point. Plus even if issues existed the degree of the issues would certainly be ratcheted up.

[jg10003]

16. Well said

[pacalo]

6. What Kittycat said is perfect.

[Kittycat]

18. Thanks.

[jfern]

7. They're both increasing racism

[Skwmom]

27. Yeah. I'm sure they realize it but they don't care.

[jfern]

28. I guess when your candidate has a 67% not honest and trustworthy rating

You generally don't care about stuff like this.

[Skwmom]

29. ???? I support Bernie.

[plus5mace]

10. This is the worse campaign I have ever seen.

If Hillary wins like this the Democratic Party will be done for a very long time.

[amborin]

11. the latter is worse; they are both racist and sociopathic;

[NuclearDem]

12. I'd say the people who use terms like "race nagger" and "house niggers" are worse.

Right up there with the ones who label entire races as suffering from psychological damage or not being as well-researched as white people.

But what do I know? I'm no expert at push poll nonsense.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

24. YES!!!

[Starry Messenger]

25. Yup.

And their apologists.

[askew]

13. The latter which is why I will never support Hillary Clinton after her racist campaign

against Obama in 2008.

Her supporters smugly laughed at her racist behavior and even shrugged of John Lewis, Jim Clyburn, and Ted Kennedy coming out and telling them to knock it off.

Now, they are claim outrage about made up stories about Bernie supporters. Give me a fucking break.

[TheFarS1de]

14. Both are as bad

However one can do a lot more harm than the other . So the worst would be a "utiliser" , but they would basically have to be racist themselves just judged purely on their actions .

[MisterP]

17. OTOH it keeps that racism going, gives it strength--legitimacy in the political conversation, even

same ol' question--is it the gasoline or the match that starts a warehouse fire?

[Rebkeh]

15. One is hurtful the other is harmful. Neither is acceptable. nt

[cantbeserious]

26. ^^^ This ^^^

eom

[HooptieWagon]

19. No difference.

Apparently some RW people think the ends justify the means.

[d_legendary1]

20. That kind of stuff happens all the time especially in a place like this

when some posters ask a question about race. When they get an answer they may not like they claim that one is not (insert ethnicity here) in order to dismiss that person's opinion. What has been happening with some civil rights legends is a kin to this and its not healthy for our society. For one thing it fuels the Republican's argument for abolishing affirmative action, claiming that minorities use their race to get ahead. Another is that it helps clowns like Trump by reinforcing his racist rhetoric to his bigoted base.

In short this type of dirty politics hurts everyone and will set us back prior to the 1960s.

[Fairgo]

21. Ton of lead, a ton of feathers

As they say in Taiwan, "Same same, but different"

[Live and Learn]

22. One is ignorant the other a sleazebag. Knowledge cures ignorance. nt

[loyalsister]

30. I'm assuming you mean bigot when you say racist?

I don't think one is worse than the other. Bigots and people who exploit their views are both participating in white supremacy.

[Onlooker]

31. Is Bernie divisive?

One thing that's clear is like it or not Hillary is bringing people of all races and ethnicities together in a way that Bernie is not. Bernie is somehow divisive at least in terms of race. Hard to understand why, but it's a fact.

[nc4bo]

32. Is Hillary? Bernie hasn't been campaigning on a national level as long as Hill.

but......haha, you guys/gals frequently forget that one little fact but we haven't. So, I'll just serve up this reminder.

She's been in the national spotlight since when, the 90's? It's all part of her Day 1 experience.

The Clinton name is as well known as Band-aid or Kool-aid and Preparation H.

[Onlooker]

33. Yeah, Bernie stayed in a white liberal state ...

... while Hillary actually was a places where the battle was being fought. Bernie hasn't had it tough in years. He ran from where the real battles are, so he never got hurt. Don't blame him, though. Vermont is a nice state. But, his failure to be in the middle of the fight, except at a very young man, is why he is having difficulty with man people of color and gays.

[nc4bo]

36. Nice that you diminish his value as a Senator. Real nice.

He does have a set of core values that has never changed and would benefit all Americans but especially the poor and middle class across racial lines.

Real battles are also fought in Congress.

Why say he ran away? You make him seem like a coward. Is this a new line of attack, not man enough?!

[uponit7771]

34. Cornell West?! tia

[whatchamacallit]

35. It's amazing the Clinton camp think they can divide the shit out of us

and somehow come the GE we will all be holding hands. Not even fear of Trump will undo the damage they've done to the party and country. They will reap what they've sown.

[Skwmom]

37. I agree. n/t