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I can think of 100,000 reasons not to believe Dolores Huerta. (Original Post) cherokeeprogressive Feb 2016 OP
I can think of reasons to believe her, or at least that was her honest reading of no, no, no. Hoyt Feb 2016 #1
wow; good research; totally disgusting; amborin Feb 2016 #2
$100,000 DOLLARS For The Delores Huerta Foundation From The Clinton Foundation! CorporatistNation Feb 2016 #5
You'd think Sanders supporters would be glad for a true labor leader to get some financial help. Hoyt Feb 2016 #6
I am making sure the bus is there for her. artislife Feb 2016 #8
What a foul and deranged post. Comparing Dolores Huerta to the mafia is not something geek tragedy Feb 2016 #31
I was saying the Clinton Foundation. nt artislife Feb 2016 #53
what they'd prefer, I guess is that she has no support at all bigtree Feb 2016 #15
There is a difference between being thrown and sliding home Half-Century Man Feb 2016 #16
Nice Enthusiast Feb 2016 #19
..+1 840high Feb 2016 #23
I don't care about the money lapfog_1 Feb 2016 #32
What's the difference between "No, English," and rabid white people yelling "No, No, No" when she Hoyt Feb 2016 #34
"No no no" was an objection to having a Hillary supporter do the translation lapfog_1 Feb 2016 #39
those people cheered when he said "english only" - so their intent was clear. bettyellen Feb 2016 #41
They didn't shout "English Only" (which is what was tweeted), the caucus moderator said that lapfog_1 Feb 2016 #42
they certainly did cheer the "english only" and jeered Huerta to "get off the stage" bettyellen Feb 2016 #43
as a Hillary supporter she should NOT have anything to do with running the caucus lapfog_1 Feb 2016 #44
volunteers for both sides work together all the fucking time. only newbies have this idea that every bettyellen Feb 2016 #46
Which has nothing to do with the incendiary tweet accusing Bernie supporters lapfog_1 Feb 2016 #50
the behavior there was ugly enough but no accusation of overt racism was made that I saw bettyellen Feb 2016 #52
I suspected as much. pacalo Feb 2016 #3
Wow. Good work. Joe the Revelator Feb 2016 #4
Good work. And this is the reason Billary's Foundation is so sleezy, clearly snagglepuss Feb 2016 #7
sadly, no surprise here. nt restorefreedom Feb 2016 #9
100,000 dollars from Clinton to Dolores? whats the big deal? ;) boomer55 Feb 2016 #10
Bought and paid for. 840high Feb 2016 #11
Good catch. Yep, she lied for $100,000. HooptieWagon Feb 2016 #12
and there you have it! KnR nt m-lekktor Feb 2016 #13
gee all you guys with this knowledge should report this criminal act to the FBI asap nt msongs Feb 2016 #14
In neutrality, I don't see anyone claiming it's a crime. I see them claiming it's a reason ScreamingMeemie Feb 2016 #18
I can't get over the concept treestar Feb 2016 #37
This is sewer-level crap. Shame on the OP and all the haters geek tragedy Feb 2016 #17
This goes to the issue of neutrality. Clearly people who live in her own precinct JimDandy Feb 2016 #22
It's from foundation to foundation treestar Feb 2016 #28
Send that to Susan Sarandon Milliesmom Feb 2016 #20
DING DING DING DING DING! snort Feb 2016 #21
^^^^^^^^^^^^ What snort said ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ nolabels Feb 2016 #51
can we say this, based on the overwhelming evidence: amborin Feb 2016 #24
It seems "tainted" is a requisite for entering into the orbit in the first place. cherokeeprogressive Feb 2016 #25
I feel sorry for these giants of iconography. They need to move over Peregrine Took Feb 2016 #26
It's a contribution to a foundation! treestar Feb 2016 #27
not only that, it was in 2010--2 years after Huerta placed Clinton's name into nomination in 2008 geek tragedy Feb 2016 #35
What a sickening accusation. sufrommich Feb 2016 #29
there are days when it's really hard to support Bernie knowing this crowd geek tragedy Feb 2016 #36
Some here would "bern down" planned parenthood, the Huerta foundation.... anyone who does bettyellen Feb 2016 #49
In her defense, its a lot more than 30 pieces of silver tularetom Feb 2016 #30
unbelievable. the Huerta Haters are beyond parody at this point. nt geek tragedy Feb 2016 #33
I am so sorry Geek. I was going to do some phone banking for Bernie but I just cannot. bettyellen Feb 2016 #54
Lol! zappaman Feb 2016 #38
Are they even now? PonyUp Feb 2016 #40
Of course you can... zappaman Feb 2016 #45
100,000 here 100,000 UglyGreed Feb 2016 #47
For $100,000 matt819 Feb 2016 #48
 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
1. I can think of reasons to believe her, or at least that was her honest reading of no, no, no.
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 01:33 AM
Feb 2016

With a moderator saying English only.

CorporatistNation

(2,546 posts)
5. $100,000 DOLLARS For The Delores Huerta Foundation From The Clinton Foundation!
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 01:51 AM
Feb 2016

Clinton Incorporated $100k PAYOLA! WORSE THAN A QUID PRO QUO! Spread this one around!

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
6. You'd think Sanders supporters would be glad for a true labor leader to get some financial help.
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 01:54 AM
Feb 2016

Another icon thrown under the bus by bitter Sanders supporters.

 

artislife

(9,497 posts)
8. I am making sure the bus is there for her.
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 01:59 AM
Feb 2016

Bought and paid for.


It would have been cool if the foundation did things without running a politician but it reminds me of the money laundering schemes of the mob.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
31. What a foul and deranged post. Comparing Dolores Huerta to the mafia is not something
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 02:02 PM
Feb 2016

sane progressives do.

bigtree

(94,261 posts)
15. what they'd prefer, I guess is that she has no support at all
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 03:23 AM
Feb 2016

...not even when she says she was mistreated.

It's a sad thing to see the behavior of the Sanders people at that caucus dismissed with this ignorant smear, but it's a pattern here with the Sanders defenders.

Half-Century Man

(5,279 posts)
16. There is a difference between being thrown and sliding home
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 03:37 AM
Feb 2016

Under whatever metaphysical bus.

lapfog_1

(31,904 posts)
32. I don't care about the money
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 02:03 PM
Feb 2016

or her motives...

But tweeting that Sanders supporters shouted her down with "English Only" was not only a lie, but a pejorative lie (as witnessed in the Hillary group when this was first reported with comparisons to Trump rallies).

If there wasn't clear video recordings of what actually happened, this might carry (and could still carry since the MSM is NOT reporting the retraction) a lot of weight in the Hispanic community.

"honest reading"... nope.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
34. What's the difference between "No, English," and rabid white people yelling "No, No, No" when she
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 02:08 PM
Feb 2016

walked up to help? I just don't see much difference, it's still ugly and I understand how she felt.

lapfog_1

(31,904 posts)
39. "No no no" was an objection to having a Hillary supporter do the translation
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 02:19 PM
Feb 2016

not to having the translation at all. "English Only" would be an objection to any translation.

If the party had hired a translator (viewed by both sides as neutral) I doubt that there would have been anyone objecting.

The "English Only" is just the sort of thing one would expect at a Trump rally... and that's the reason she tweeted that.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
41. those people cheered when he said "english only" - so their intent was clear.
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 02:51 PM
Feb 2016

As well their motivation- a two to one loss to Clinton. Sour grapes.

lapfog_1

(31,904 posts)
42. They didn't shout "English Only" (which is what was tweeted), the caucus moderator said that
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 03:29 PM
Feb 2016

they may have cheered the decision to not allow a Hillary supporter do the translation.

The insinuation that Bernie supporters are equivalent to Trump rally attendees is very ugly and has nothing to do with whether or not Hillary won the Nevada caucus.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
43. they certainly did cheer the "english only" and jeered Huerta to "get off the stage"
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 03:32 PM
Feb 2016

not up there with Trump, but also pretty embarrassing behavior.

lapfog_1

(31,904 posts)
44. as a Hillary supporter she should NOT have anything to do with running the caucus
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 03:36 PM
Feb 2016

so she should have never approached the stage.

Or would you have minded a Bernie operative and supporter running the caucus?

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
46. volunteers for both sides work together all the fucking time. only newbies have this idea that every
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 03:46 PM
Feb 2016

thing is some kind of plot. it is the nature of the beast- people who care enough to show up usually do support a candidate already. volunteers from both sides keep each other in check.
people are making up rules and freaking out that it doesn't go how they imagined it instead of training. not enough volunteers are showing up to do the work.

the fact that he has too many "observers" getting in the way and causing arguments instead of enough volunteers to help register the new voters says it all. everyone seems to want to make a gotcha video instead of staffing the polling places. it's a paranoid mess. he needs more staff to put down their phones and register people.

lapfog_1

(31,904 posts)
50. Which has nothing to do with the incendiary tweet accusing Bernie supporters
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 03:54 PM
Feb 2016

of overt racism by shouting "English Only" and drowning out her translation.

Volunteers help out all the time. Fine. But instead of inviting a neutral party or someone from both sides to provide translation, Ms. Huerta gets up on stage to provide the translation herself. If I was there I would have objected too. That doesn't make me a racist nor should it be tweeted that my objection is the same as if I had shouted "English Only" at a Hispanic Icon of the civil rights movement.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
52. the behavior there was ugly enough but no accusation of overt racism was made that I saw
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 03:59 PM
Feb 2016

pointing out that people were thrilled no translation was provided is wrong? they were thrilled. that is ugly.
those people should be ashamed for bum rushing a volunteer off the stage.

maybe if one person could point to this state "rule" it would make sense. does it exist- have you seen it?

snagglepuss

(12,704 posts)
7. Good work. And this is the reason Billary's Foundation is so sleezy, clearly
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 01:57 AM
Feb 2016

one of Huetra's roles is Clinton operative.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
12. Good catch. Yep, she lied for $100,000.
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 02:49 AM
Feb 2016

Just goes to show how deeply the cancer has grown in the party establishment.

ScreamingMeemie

(68,918 posts)
18. In neutrality, I don't see anyone claiming it's a crime. I see them claiming it's a reason
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 03:38 AM
Feb 2016

people would not want her translating and would shout for someone neutral. We really have to try not to twist the message, no matter what side we are on.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
37. I can't get over the concept
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 02:13 PM
Feb 2016

that she would actually change the translation! Other people would be there. It wasn't planned. The idea people have that no one is genuine and it's totally about money is over the top at this point. And this was from foundation to foundation. They are two people with similar views who support each other's foundation work. Trying to make this into some type of corruption is ridiculous. And thinking Dolores would change a translation right on the spot like that because of this old contribution! Probably both of the have forgotten all about it by now! They are both people who've done good in the world! This is not helping Bernie at all!

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
17. This is sewer-level crap. Shame on the OP and all the haters
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 03:37 AM
Feb 2016

recommending it.

Shameful and vile.

JimDandy

(7,318 posts)
22. This goes to the issue of neutrality. Clearly people who live in her own precinct
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 04:04 AM
Feb 2016

and are familiar with her had concerns about that. Pfft on the bribe talk, though. This is troublesome but not evidence of a bribe.

nolabels

(13,133 posts)
51. ^^^^^^^^^^^^ What snort said ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 03:55 PM
Feb 2016

I had to do a double take, but then

amborin

(16,631 posts)
24. can we say this, based on the overwhelming evidence:
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 12:08 PM
Feb 2016

everyone who comes into clinton's orbit either is, or becomes, tainted

 

cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
25. It seems "tainted" is a requisite for entering into the orbit in the first place.
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 01:53 PM
Feb 2016

But in answer to your question; an unqualified YES.

Peregrine Took

(7,583 posts)
26. I feel sorry for these giants of iconography. They need to move over
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 01:57 PM
Feb 2016

and let some fresh faces into the limelight.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
27. It's a contribution to a foundation!
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 01:58 PM
Feb 2016

SMH. So you are going to assume it is direct payment for support politically. Figures.

This is going way out of the realm of realistic. And it does not help Bernie.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
35. not only that, it was in 2010--2 years after Huerta placed Clinton's name into nomination in 2008
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 02:08 PM
Feb 2016

at the DNC.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
36. there are days when it's really hard to support Bernie knowing this crowd
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 02:09 PM
Feb 2016

has the same goal

I sure as shit wouldn't want the Huerta Hating lynch mob getting into power.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
49. Some here would "bern down" planned parenthood, the Huerta foundation.... anyone who does
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 03:48 PM
Feb 2016

not champion Bernie. They are useful idiots, but not for Bernie.

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
30. In her defense, its a lot more than 30 pieces of silver
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 02:02 PM
Feb 2016

Hope she can sleep well now that everybody knows she got the Clinton stink all over her.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
54. I am so sorry Geek. I was going to do some phone banking for Bernie but I just cannot.
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 04:37 PM
Feb 2016

Too many RW operatives "helping" and too much hatred all around. I think that is suppressing the vote and leading to voter apathy. Rove couldn't be pulling their strings any harder.

 

PonyUp

(1,680 posts)
40. Are they even now?
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 02:41 PM
Feb 2016

Once you get involved with "The Foundation" you probably are never even and can be called out to perform at any time.

matt819

(10,749 posts)
48. For $100,000
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 03:47 PM
Feb 2016

I'll be your new best friend.

It would be Interesting to dig deeper into the $100,000 disbursements. Not only details on the organizations getting the money but how those contributions were further used by the recipients.

Interesting, too, is that the clintons only contributed $1 million. Also, while the book value of the foundations funds is shocked nelly minuscule, it is held by JP Morgan. Sure is a lot of backscratching going on.

God forbid that journalists investigate further on this and Trumps so called foundation.

We are so fucked it is breathtaking.

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