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snot

(10,530 posts)
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 03:21 AM Feb 2016

If you who support Hillary are willing to HOLD HER TO WHAT SHE'S SAYING NOW,

and will follow through and hound her if she doesn't, . . .

very dam' cool.

But if I had to bet, her tune will change the minute she thinks Bernie's done.

Not enough, for me.

Because Bernie's judgment has generally been more right than hers; and his tune's changed less often.

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Kelvin Mace

(17,469 posts)
1. Not going to happen
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 03:24 AM
Feb 2016

They will offer a never ending supply of excuses to justify her behavior, as they do now.

 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
2. Good grief there are too many newbies to presidential politics here!
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 03:25 AM
Feb 2016

EVERY Democratic Presidential Nominee immediately pivots to the right after the primaries to stake out the center in the general election.

This is an axiom of presidential politics, where the political center determines the outcome of the general election.

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
5. And it never helps us to pivot to the right. We always drop in the polls when we do.
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 03:39 AM
Feb 2016

"It's enough to just elect the Democrat" generally means we end up with administrations that are as un-progressive as possible.

There's no good reason to ever settle for victory-in-name again.

The majority of the country is not implacably anti-change.

The voters WANT an anti-corporate candidate in the fall.

snot

(10,530 posts)
6. Like!!!
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 03:46 AM
Feb 2016

I cannot understand this, let's start negotiation from, we already give half or more of our position and power away.

If it's not intentional complicity it is, interpreting generously, stockholm syndrome.

 

w4rma

(31,700 posts)
7. I understand it. The corporatists, work very hard to splinter regular people.
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 06:28 AM
Feb 2016

Corporatists, like Hillary, *want* regular people to hate and dislike one another. She *wants* to turn blacks against whites and whites against blacks. She *wants* a divided electorate that she can play identity politics to and avoid talking about economic problems and other substantial problems.

The more successful Hillary is at this, the wealthier she'll be after she loses.

It seems pretty obvious, at this point, that she has no interest in winning a general election.

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
8. What the Clinton supporters do at that point will be immaterial
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 07:16 AM
Feb 2016

After the election, every single DUer in the Hillary Clinton Group could post a denunciation of the rumor that Clinton will appoint ____ or will recommend a bill to ____ and it wouldn't matter. She would do those things anyway.

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