2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumIf you who support Hillary are willing to HOLD HER TO WHAT SHE'S SAYING NOW,
and will follow through and hound her if she doesn't, . . .
very dam' cool.
But if I had to bet, her tune will change the minute she thinks Bernie's done.
Not enough, for me.
Because Bernie's judgment has generally been more right than hers; and his tune's changed less often.
Kelvin Mace
(17,469 posts)They will offer a never ending supply of excuses to justify her behavior, as they do now.
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)EVERY Democratic Presidential Nominee immediately pivots to the right after the primaries to stake out the center in the general election.
This is an axiom of presidential politics, where the political center determines the outcome of the general election.
snot
(10,530 posts)Pivots are recorded/shared (again, I hope).
SoLeftIAmRight
(4,883 posts)enjoy you Goldwater Girl
Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)"It's enough to just elect the Democrat" generally means we end up with administrations that are as un-progressive as possible.
There's no good reason to ever settle for victory-in-name again.
The majority of the country is not implacably anti-change.
The voters WANT an anti-corporate candidate in the fall.
I cannot understand this, let's start negotiation from, we already give half or more of our position and power away.
If it's not intentional complicity it is, interpreting generously, stockholm syndrome.
w4rma
(31,700 posts)Corporatists, like Hillary, *want* regular people to hate and dislike one another. She *wants* to turn blacks against whites and whites against blacks. She *wants* a divided electorate that she can play identity politics to and avoid talking about economic problems and other substantial problems.
The more successful Hillary is at this, the wealthier she'll be after she loses.
It seems pretty obvious, at this point, that she has no interest in winning a general election.
Jim Lane
(11,175 posts)After the election, every single DUer in the Hillary Clinton Group could post a denunciation of the rumor that Clinton will appoint ____ or will recommend a bill to ____ and it wouldn't matter. She would do those things anyway.