A bad sign: Turnout WAY down in Nevada compared to 2008. 3 in a row.

[cali]

NH, Iowa and now Nevada. Meanwhile, republican turnout has been high.

All the happy talk about dems starting with 242 EVs is ridiculous. It appears to be mostly Hillary fans who think this election is so lock for dems. It is anything but, particularly with Hillary as nominee. She's the most potent GOTV tool the repubs could ever have, and bad for dem turnout.

[Cali_Democrat]

1. What happened to Bernie's political revolution?

Nobody showed up?

[applegrove]

3. GOP trolls on the DU and elsewhere are mucking up Democratic enthusiasm.

If Democrats have nowhere to go to feel giddy with hope on the internet, why would they vote? Any time anyone says anything positive about Hillary on the DU the trolls show up and 'seeth'. Why would anybody feel excited when the choice is to follow the 'seether', supposedly Bernie fans, or the 'seethee'? Disgust is an emotion that keeps humans away bad pathogens. What the hell is it doing in our Democratic primary race, disgust every second of every minute of every day? No wonder nobody is showing up.

[Red Knight]

7. Read again the post you replied to.

And tell us all again about Bernie supporter's attacks.

[Red Knight]

5. Yeah that will help.

[w4rma]

8. He's being held back by Clinton's presence on the ticket causing voter suppression. (nt)

[frylock]

17. Bernie's holding up his end.

It's your candidate who can't draw flies.

[workinclasszero]

22. Pie in the sky...

...matches Bernies campaign promises so there's that.

[lumberjack_jeff]

24. It has become apparent that the DNC end game is nominating Hillary. Nothing beyond that.

Isn't it at least equally troubling that Hillary isn't bringing in any support?

[George II]

38. Reminds me of that 1970 movie: "Suppose They Gave a War and Nobody Came?"

[noretreatnosurrender]

2. GOP turnout

It will be interesting to see the turnout once more GOP candidates drop out.

[Out of Time Man]

4. I'm sorry to quibble with you, Cali...

But the meme that voter turn out has been down for the Dems compared to '08 isn't entirely true.

In 2008, we were fielding far more candidates (similar to the GOP, minus the all around bigoted and theocratic bent). Each of our candidates had their own GOTV initiative which drove the total number for voter turn out up.

We're witnessing the same with the GOP this election cycle. I agree with noretreatnosurrender; GOP turnout will die down once the herd thins out.

Thom Hartmann had a great article about this meme...

http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/bernies-political-revolution-actually-happening-although-corporate-media-wont-tell-you

As for the rest of your post, I completely agree. No one should feel like we have this election on lock down, for Sanders or Clinton.

[George II]

40. The dynamics of the 2008 campaign were completely different than those of this 2016 campaign.....

....especially in the early states when there were three viable candidates.

In IA the votes went 38% to Obama, 30% to Edwards, and 29% to Clinton.
In NH the votes went 36% to Obama, 17% to Edwards, and 39% to Clinton.

At that point, any one of the three could have won the nomination. THAT is what encouraged high voter turnout.

This year it's completely different.

[Out of Time Man]

42. Exactly, we had more viable candidates to choose from...

...each with their own GOTV movements and dedicated followings.

This time around, we have but two GOTV movements with highly dedicated followings. By design, they'll reach less people than if we had more candidates to choose from.

I will say though that enthusiasm has rivaled and in some respects, surpassed that of 2008 when it comes to each of our candidates. The raw numbers of those voting for Hillary or Bernie speak to this.

[bobbobbins01]

6. Most votes for a candidate in NH ever.

Voters are turning out for Bernie.

[Gothmog]

9. Sorry, Bernie Sanders. There is zero evidence of your ‘political revolution’ yet

Last night further confirms the fact that the Sanders' revolution is not happening. No one has seen any evidence of the so-called Sanders revolution https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/02/10/sorry-bernie-sanders-there-is-zero-evidence-of-your-political-revolution-yet/

Bernie Sanders recorded a resounding victory in New Hampshire's Democratic primary Tuesday. He crushed his rival, Hillary Clinton, with no less than 60 percent of the vote. If Sanders hopes not only to win the election but to achieve his ambitious progressive agenda, though, that might not be enough.

To succeed, Sanders might have to drive Americans who don't normally participate to the polls. Unfortunately for him, groups who usually do not vote did not turn out in unusually large numbers in New Hampshire, according to exit polling data.

https://img.washingtonpost.com/wp-apps/imrs.php?src=&w=1484

...As for Sanders, he credited his victory to turnout. "Because of a huge voter turnout -- and I say huge -- we won," he said in his speech declaring victory, dropping the "h" in "huge." "We harnessed the energy, and the excitement that the Democratic party will need to succeed in November."

In fact, Sanders won by persuading many habitual Democratic primary voters to support him. With 95 percent of precincts reporting their results as of Wednesday morning, just 241,000 ballots had been cast in the Democratic primary, fewer than the 268,000 projected by New Hampshire Secretary of State William Gardner last week. Nearly 289,000 voters cast ballots in the state's Democratic primary in 2008.

To be sure, the general election is still seven months away. Ordinary Americans might be paying little attention to the campaign at this point, and if Sanders wins the nomination, he'll have the help of the Democratic Party apparatus in registering new voters. The political revolution hasn't started, though, at least not yet.

Without this revolution, I am not sure how Sanders proposes to advance his unrealistic agenda

[cali]

26. Sorry Hillary will lose the general.

I've told you Hill fans that for years.

[redstateblues]

28. Bernie would do much worse than Hillary

[Gothmog]

31. If you really believe this, then open Irish brokerage account

You will get great odds http://predictwise.com/politics/2016-president-winner

[wyldwolf]

10. bad news for the candidate basing his entire campaign on 'revolution.'

[Blue_Adept]

11. This is what happens in a two-person race

We needed a lot more variety in the mix for a lot longer than we had. Primaries like this don't bring out a lot of the various planks of the party.

[one_voice]

39. When I saw Marco Rubio and Nikki Haley..

last night with their hand raised in victory, I thought, 'oh no we could be in some real trouble'. The optics alone...

I've said from the beginning we didn't have enough depth. It's going to hurt us.

[geek tragedy]

12. quite frankly there are two bad candidates in this race.

Bernie has better ideas, but he's not a good candidate.

Clinton is Clinton. 'Nuff said.

we've been spoiled by Obama

[loyalsister]

20. Spoiled by Obama

Indeed. This is an extremely depressing primary. I was so enthusiastic in 2008. I am not a big fan of Bernie's style (Obama's measured temperment is one of his best qualities), but I like what he says.
For the primary, I cannot in good conscience vote for a war hawk who has sold out women and people of color for political gain. I will grudgingly vote for her if she is the nominee, and if she actually manages to win, it will not feel like victory.

I deal with a lot of people who have not benefitted from the economic recovery we keep hearing about and they resent the ACA. They aren't wrong because many are working 2 jobs and still have trouble affording health insurance. Yet, they have to buy it.

These are people who had great hope during the 2008 campaign. They have been disappointed and they see a "more of the same" candidate who represents everything keeping them down, vs. one who cares about their situation and is actually trying to earn their votes. It is hard for people to have hope again, but they desperately want to.

[geek tragedy]

23. I hear you. one has plans but no vision, the other has vision but no plan

the Obama presidency was tough lesson on how our political system is designed to prevent change.

[gwheezie]

29. I would vote for Obama for a 3rd term

I'm going to miss him. I plan on voting for HRC in my primary so there's that but I don't think either Bernie or Hillary rise to the bar Obama set.

[geek tragedy]

30. no doubt Obama would easily win 50+% against these two nt

[kstewart33]

13. A bad sign for both Hillary and Bernie.

In their own way, the Republican voters are just as mad as the Democratic voters.

Turnout will be a problem for the Democratic party. In part, it will depend on who's the Republican nominee.

[LexVegas]

14. Where are the new Berniebros? nt

[NWCorona]

15. The question is, where are the new Hillary supporters?

Because if Hillary makes it to the general it's gonna be a big problem.

[Kang Colby]

18. In their parent's basement, enjoying a bag of cheetos.

[Out of Time Man]

43. Perhaps you forgot your sarcasm tag?

I imagine you wouldn't want to be alienating Millennials and Bernie supporters in one fell swoop.

[DCBob]

16. Not really.

I don't think primary turnout correlates with general election turnout.

[Zynx]

19. It also proves Sanders's talk of a political revolution is nonsense.

Look, this bitterness in the party is not being helpful. Neither of our candidates are a lock for the presidency. They both have their strengths and weaknesses. Neither one's narrative is quite what they would like to think it is.

[Donkees]

21. Low Turnout And A Transient Population Make The Nevada Caucuses Unpredictable

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511297733

[zappaman]

25. What happened to all the revolutionaries?

Guess they had something better to do...

[George II]

33. Or they weren't registered, or they were too young to vote.

[CorkySt.Clair]

36. Or they thought they were supposed to caucus online

[George II]

37. Good one!

[redstateblues]

27. I thought Bernie was supposed to drive turnout to historic levels

What happened to that meme?

[George II]

32. The low Nevada turnout, if it's attributable to candidates, is the fault of ALL candidates, not one.

[leftofcool]

34. I guess the revolution got cancelled?

[BainsBane]

35. That indicates Bernie isn't generating the enthusiasm he promised

Which takes away a central argument for his candidacy.

Sure doesn't look like a revolution.

[Flying Squirrel]

41. Turnout was higher for Democrats in 2008

Because we were trying to take over for an unpopular Republican pResident and reverse his disastrous policies. Same in 2004. Midterms were slower than they should have been, I'll agree there, but unless Hillary is nominated we'll be in good shape for the GE anyway. Sanders has enthusiasm behind him.