If Hillary's our nominee, how shall she react to severe attacks...

[Herman4747]

...by Republicans seeking to besmirch her integrity? Will she respond with honesty, or will she instead reply with deception and thereby help make the Republicans' case?

To aid in answering these questions, let us consider Hillary's actions as First Lady when she was under sniper fire in Bosnia:
I remember landing under sniper fire" -- Hillary, March 17, 2008
(the greeting ceremony) "had to be moved inside because of sniper fire" -- Hillary, Feb. 29, 2008

So, what do you think?

[EdwardBernays]

1. She'll just lie and smear

And flip and flop...

Why would anything change?

[Hoyt]

2. I think she'll stand up fine compared to GOPers besmirching her integrity.

Laughing in their racist face is all that's really needed.

[PonyUp]

10. Will she laugh at the Navy SEAL members doing sniper ads about her?

Those that risk their lives under sniper attack.
Laugh at them.

[Hoyt]

19. She was in Bosnia, more than we can say for Sanders, Rubio or Trump. As to Navy Seals, I lost

respect for them when they were sending photos home to their wives and girlfriends of them beating up handcuffed and blindfolded Iraqis for fun.

[DVRacer]

23. Just to be clear

Those were pictures from young Army members. Not SEALS big difference in the military community.

[Hoyt]

25. I'm responding the the poster who mentioned Navy Seals.

[djean111]

3. I think she will smirk and lie and wave that stuff away as "unimportant."

Stuff about Bernie from 30 0r 40 years ago is dredged up, but anything Hillary did last week is "old news".
And, really, that stuff IS unimportant to her and her supporters.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

4. I would go to the mattresses ...

I would go to the mattresses with Hillary:

go to the mattresses

(idiomatic) To go to war; to use ruthless tactics; to act without restraint.

Clinton's best traits as a candidate are her resilience and her perseverance. She will not give up. She will not stop working because she is tired. She will not back away. Ever.

- Chris Cilizza

[HassleCat]

13. Might want to check your idioms

That first one seems a little off to me.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

17. Respectfully, my grasp of idiomatic English, i.e., colloquialisms are impeccable.

Hassle Cat
13. Might want to check your idioms
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That first one seems a little off to m

My grasp of idiomatic English, i.e., colloquialisms are impeccable, ergo:


https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=go%20to%20the%20mattresses

"I agree with all the above descriptions, however, in a more colloquial manner, it can mean an issue or belief that an individual is willing to fight hard for to defend. Put it all on the line, so to speak. Politics and Religion are two topics people "go to the mattresses" with, all the time."

[asuhornets]

5. Republicans have no credibility whatsoever..

Hillary will do just fine.

[PonyUp]

6. Repugs have several Hillary sniper ads done by SEAL team members to be aired constantly. n/t

[Skwmom]

8. In troubled times you want to be able to trust the person that sits in the oval office. n/t

[oasis]

11. SEAL teams, Dog the Bounty Hunter or that old Duck Dynasty

fart can't crank out enough negative ads to convince women, Latinos and AAs to turn to the hate monger candidate of the GOP.

[PonyUp]

18. The military is a large block of voters, with lots of minorities and their families.

It's anecdotal, but I have twin brothers-in-law, both in the army. They are Vietnamese and obtained US citizenship. They tell me no one in their barracks support Hillary. They are either Sanders supporters or Trump supporters.

[oasis]

21. When Bernie makes his exit, Dems gotta go somewhere.

Military folks that I have known had a tendency to lean GOP. If Hill splits the vote with them in the GE, that'll be good enough.

[CorkySt.Clair]

35. Ohhhh anecdotal story time!!!!

Some of us will work for the Dem nominee because we're not afraid, and frankly don't GAF, about what the GOP baddies are going to throw out there.



But you have a nice day

[one_voice]

7. I think we talk about the things in your OP more than they do..

I expect more about Benghazi and her time as SoS from them. Unless their nominee is Trump...then he'll talk about Bill, Monica, etc.

[Skwmom]

9. Trump has said Clinton is in a certain way evil. That should give you a hint....

[one_voice]

14. did you miss this part of my comment?

Unless their nominee is Trump...then he'll talk about Bill, Monica, etc.

I agree about Trump.

[HassleCat]

12. Hey, don't make fun of sniper fire.

I have been shot at by snipers, so I know about these things. First time was War of 1812, but those old smooth bore muskets were not accurate at long distances, so it wasn't a problem. It wasn't until Vietnam that I actually got hit, but the bullet could not penetrate the six Congressional Medals of Honor on my uniform, so I was saved.

[TTUBatfan2008]

15. Bosnia will be an issue

Obama never attacked her on it and neither did Bernie. But the Republicans love to attack Democrats on war and national security. Remember the Swift Boat attacks on John Kerry even though GWB and Cheney were draft dodgers? Difference here is Hillary was caught lying by a major network. Kerry wasn't lying.

GOP will hammer her for this. You want to be Commander-In-Chief after you lied about your war zone experience? Mind you, they would also attack Bernie for dodging the draft. Luckily for Bill Clinton (a dodger in his own right), Ross Perot screwed the GOP by stealing 8-10% of the vote.

[nashville_brook]

32. my sense is that she'd be lucky if Bosnia were the worst of it.

With the play for pay evidence stacking up in the email scandal, there could be actions taken that make her extremely unattractive in the General.

[Arkansas Granny]

16. Hillary has been attacked by Republicans for 40+ years

and she's still standing.

It's disappointing to see so many attacks coming from Democrats.

[DrDan]

26. did you ever notice how closely their attacks mirror those from the RW attack-dogs?

[BlueMTexpat]

27. Exactly!

[Kall]

34. Funny definition of "standing", politically speaking.

Terrible unfavorable numbers, and polls as less honest and trustworthy than Donald Trump. I'd hate to see what "crippled" looks like.

[rufus dog]

20. Holy fuckin shit!

Not one post from a Clinton supporter even coming close to considering she lied.

Every post dismissive of the lies.

The OP raises a valid point, she is very vulnerable to the attacks AND HERE IS THE FUCKING PROBLEM, Clinton supporters will get angry at progressives when the attacks occur, claim progressives are not supporting her, mock the Bernie supporter and ask where is the Bernie revolution, and blame progressives for her failures.

WAKE THE FUCK UP! Progressives don't support fucking liars, it is a part of our core DNA to despise liars, you have a better chance teaching an owl to catch a football, we ain't made that way.

People are trying to pound this point home daily, she lies, habitually, progressives will stay back. Some of us will hold our nose and vote for her, others will be too disgusted to vote. Be dismissive all you want.

[oasis]

22. "Progressives don't support liars". Ha freakin' ha.

They DO support candidates who make promises on which they know they can't deliver.

A false promise isn't a lie when you make it with yout fingers crossed.

[rufus dog]

33. You have no clue as to the motivation of Bernie voters

It is not a hidden agenda.

Was JFK lying when he said we would put a man on the moon in ten years?

In today's environment Republicans would have a knee jerk reaction and say it costs too much, while Centrist D's would hop right on the message stating it is a cool idea but Republicans are right.

Here is one thing everyone should have learned, especially anyone over thirty-five, Republicans are always wrong. If you find yourself supporting a Republican viewpoint or statement, then you are wrong.

[nashville_brook]

29. plenty of Ds are not progressive.

[yourpaljoey]

31. Trump will not play, this will be a slaughter

Her litany of lies write their own attack ads... all of them true.
Hillary will sit and spin and step and fetch and Trump will have
a grand ol' time.
He might have to pour himself a martini while he watches her
self destruct again and again and again.
If he can mold a populist stand on several issues
he may well draw Independents.
She's got nothing.

[Herman4747]

40. Well, yes, I have wondered about this:

Not one post from a Clinton supporter even coming close to considering she lied.

[DrDan]

24. with dignity - did you watch any of gowdy's attack-hearings?

[frylock]

36. How highly would you rate Gowdy's level of competance?

[DrDan]

37. 100% partisan

(I would like to comment on his haircut - but will remain above that. I will let it speak for itself.)

[frylock]

38. That wasn't my question.

[DrDan]

39. I am not going to say he was completely incompetent - he had a partisan role to perform

and that is what he did.

And I think my candidate did well in that grilling.

[frylock]

41. Yes, your candidate did well going up against someone who is not completely incompetent.

It was like watching Vidal and Buckley up there.

[DrDan]

42. always enjoyed Buckley's Firing Line - he had a way with words, even though his politics were screwy

[gwheezie]

28. She'll fight them

What is the choice? Why run if you don't intend to fight? She knows what's coming.

[highprincipleswork]

30. Seriously. I just never have known how to respond to this.

It is just off the charts, and so easy to demonstrate.

[Herman4747]

43. To Hillary's fine supporters unconcerned about Hillary's lies...

...I ask you how well the gentleman pictured below did, despite running against a president notably handicapped by near 9% unemployment:



Mitt loved to lie, didn't he, but that didn't work out for him.

In addition, I ask you to consider whether we Democrats truly want a candidate who readily deceives if it suits her, and is even most unwilling to apologize for deception.

Is this the type of role model we want for America's children?

[Herman4747]

44. The Knickerbockers were on to Hillary...

"lies, lies, breaking my heart!"