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kstewart33

(6,551 posts)
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 07:22 PM Feb 2016

Should Elizabeth Warren endorse?

Last edited Sun Feb 21, 2016, 08:06 PM - Edit history (1)

For Warren, the decision to endorse is a tricky situation.

If she endorses Bernie, she'll have a tough go of it with her Congressional Democratic colleagues given that to date, only one has endorsed Bernie. She needs their support to further her own legislative agenda. Warren may well favor Bernie, but I'm not sure of that and I'd wager neither is anyone else except Warren.

It's also risky to endorse Hillary. She would immediately lose much of her liberal following who are Bernie supporters, a base that is very important to her own agenda and the goals that she wants to accomplish. She needs their support.

So if Warren endorses now, in one way or another, she loses. Warren is an advocate but she is also a savvy politician. Her own welfare and political future will and should figure into her thinking. For the short time that she's been in the Senate, she's accomplished a lot and we need her to continue doing just that.

If Warren endorses, I'd wager that it will occur after the primaries when the Democratic nominee is apparent. For her own interests, it's best for her to stay out of it for now, and let Bernie and Hillary duke it out through June. I'd wager that Warren will campaign for the nominee because she knows what's at stake, and that a Republican president will do more damage to her own agenda than will any other factor or individual.

A LATE EDIT: There's another possibility, so obvious that I absolutely should have seen it when writing this post.
She bargains. Of course, she bargains. With both candidates. Warren is savvy, and she may well value her own agenda more than anything else.

The big question: What does she bargain for? What's at the top of her wish list?

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Should Elizabeth Warren endorse? (Original Post) kstewart33 Feb 2016 OP
Being prochoice, I believe it is Warren's decision alone and the rest of us should stay out of it. Agnosticsherbet Feb 2016 #1
Me either. More importantly, to me - her endorsement would never influence me to change my support djean111 Feb 2016 #5
Pretty much the same page here. blm Feb 2016 #11
Yes, if she endorses Hillary she will be under the bus. She is strong Thinkingabout Feb 2016 #6
You seem obsessed with busses. It's curious. Ed Suspicious Feb 2016 #15
I don't care, except that politicians who do only what is in their best interests are not merrily Feb 2016 #2
Bingo. I hope she's doing or going to do whatever she feels is in the best interest of the country, Erich Bloodaxe BSN Feb 2016 #8
Politicians are human. kstewart33 Feb 2016 #22
Thanks. I was aware they're human. However, I vote for them to serve, not self serve merrily Feb 2016 #23
If she doesn't endorse, it makes her more available for a draft in case of a deadlock Ken Burch Feb 2016 #3
Do you mean other than the fact that she is not interested? longship Feb 2016 #13
I wasn't even speculating that she was interested. Ken Burch Feb 2016 #17
Except for the fact that she is not interested. longship Feb 2016 #19
How do you end up with a deadlock with only two candidates? brooklynite Feb 2016 #21
It's getting late wyldwolf Feb 2016 #4
No. Not unless she wants to and I doubt she will. nt Autumn Feb 2016 #7
i think sanders had gotten more than one congressional endorsement JI7 Feb 2016 #9
if she wants to but it won't make much difference JI7 Feb 2016 #10
That's true. Elizabeth Warren is a tireless campaigner. PatrickforO Feb 2016 #12
there is no upside to her endorsing either candidate, but there is considerable downside nt geek tragedy Feb 2016 #14
My two cents. Skwmom Feb 2016 #16
There's another possibility that I just added to my post. nt kstewart33 Feb 2016 #18
She will endorse the nominee and won't endorse any sooner. MohRokTah Feb 2016 #20

Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)
1. Being prochoice, I believe it is Warren's decision alone and the rest of us should stay out of it.
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 07:24 PM
Feb 2016

I will not put her under the bus no matter who she endorses.

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
5. Me either. More importantly, to me - her endorsement would never influence me to change my support
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 07:28 PM
Feb 2016

from Bernie to Hillary. if she endorsed Hillary, I would just assume political expediency, and would of course still admire her, and believe she would make a great president - but my vote would still be for Bernie.

I cannot imagine ignoring the issues I feel so strongly about - because of an endorsement.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
6. Yes, if she endorses Hillary she will be under the bus. She is strong
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 07:28 PM
Feb 2016

And she will make her decisions and does not need to be threatened with losing supporters.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
2. I don't care, except that politicians who do only what is in their best interests are not
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 07:25 PM
Feb 2016

exactly what is best for the county.

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
8. Bingo. I hope she's doing or going to do whatever she feels is in the best interest of the country,
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 07:28 PM
Feb 2016

not herself.

kstewart33

(6,551 posts)
22. Politicians are human.
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 08:22 PM
Feb 2016

We expect more, but the bottom line is that they're usually driven by an instinct that we all possess.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
23. Thanks. I was aware they're human. However, I vote for them to serve, not self serve
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 08:28 PM
Feb 2016

Serving is their job. If they didn't want to serve, they shouldn't have run.

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
3. If she doesn't endorse, it makes her more available for a draft in case of a deadlock
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 07:26 PM
Feb 2016

or in case we get to a situation in which one candidate has a strong delegate lead but at the same time a Mondale-sized deficit in the polls going into Philly(which could be either candidate, actually).

longship

(40,416 posts)
13. Do you mean other than the fact that she is not interested?
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 07:34 PM
Feb 2016

And there are many of us here who love Liz and support her on this issue. I mean, she only denied it dozens of times. She wants to be a US Senator, which many of us see as a very great thing.

But no! Every important political person must become POTUS or they fail, which on base is a ridiculous argument.

Give up on Liz becoming either POTUS or SCOTUS. She is one helluva US Senator. Why can't people willingly give her that?

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
17. I wasn't even speculating that she was interested.
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 07:59 PM
Feb 2016

Just pointing out one case that could be made for it.

longship

(40,416 posts)
19. Except for the fact that she is not interested.
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 08:10 PM
Feb 2016

Gees! What does it take? How can one make a case when she is obviously not in the least bit interested.

Furthermore, many of us see her as a really great US Senator. We need them, too.

Or is the Executive Branch the only important one? Maybe that's why Democrats are failing everywhere else. And they are.

Skwmom

(12,685 posts)
16. My two cents.
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 07:38 PM
Feb 2016

I think she'll lose some Bernie supporters by staying on the sidelines and not supporting him. It raises authenticity concerns and some people will always wonder if she could have helped make the difference if Bernie is not the Democratic nominee. In addition, sitting on the sidelines while Rome is burning isn't the portrait of a fearless fighter and makes one wonder if her own future political ambitions are her first concern.

If she went on a ticket with Hillary it raises authenticity concerns. Secondly, some people will think she stayed on the sidelines to get the VP slot, thus helping Clinton business to continue as usual.

If she endorses Hillary..... well I think there would be a lot of outraged people (a huge blowback) and it would hurt her brand with Democrats and independents.

 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
20. She will endorse the nominee and won't endorse any sooner.
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 08:10 PM
Feb 2016

She's said as much, just like when she said she wouldn't run for president.

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