Here’s Why The Nevada Caucus RESULTS Should Be Overturned

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The Young Turks reporter Jimmy Dore captured some incredible footage at last night’s Democratic Caucus in Nevada. Dore was covering the Las Vegas caucus, held at the Paris Hotel in Clark County. This is the most highly populated area of Nevada, and the county is a must-win for presidential candidates hoping to capture their party’s nomination. Earlier in the day on Wednesday, a caucus-goer by the name of James Porter uploaded a disturbing cell phone video to YouTube.

Porter documented caucus leaders telling attendees to ‘come in to caucus without registering.’ That’s a direct quote.The video shows a large group of people standing at the registration table. A female official is then heard telling the group not to register to vote. Immediately after she gives this direction, a male official shushes her, saying “Don’t yell it.” When the officials are questioned about allowing people who are not registered to caucus, one responds by saying, “They will register after the caucus.”

What happened after that is even more unbelievable. As reported by The Jimmy Dore Show, the caucus was total chaos from beginning to end. “There doesn’t seem to be any organization to this,” Dore says. The video shows the way the votes were tallied during the caucus, with the unnamed official taking a cursory head count. The video then shows the leader of the caucus writing stuff on his hand. No official report was given regarding the head count, or the number of voters caucusing for either candidate.

It was then announced that:

“As of today’s caucus results, Senator Sanders has gained seven delegates… Secretary Clinton has – oh, I’m sorry – SIX delegates, Secretary Clinton has gained 13 delegates.”

At this point it seemed that the caucus was over. But as Dore reports, it was at this time that the chairman of the caucus realized he “made two huge mistakes.” First, all of the people who were allowed to caucus without ever registering to vote were never directed to return to the registration table at the end of the caucus. Worse, the caucus ended before delegates were ever chosen for either candidate.

The video shows the chairman telling people not to leave. By this time it’s way too late as almost everyone was already gone.

Watch the report from The Jimmy Dore Show below.

While it’s clear that Dore (and the rest of the TYT personalities) favor Sanders over Clinton, the issues documented in these videos should outrage every democratic voter, regardless of which candidate you support. There’s clear, undeniable evidence that people who were not registered to vote were not just allowed to caucus, they were directed to do so.


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http://www.addictinginfo.org/2016/02/21/heres-why-the-nevada-caucus-results-should-be-overturned-video/

[MohRokTah]

1. BWAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!

[onehandle]

2. +100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000

Ran out of zeros

[bravenak]

10. +1

[CorporatistNation]

196. Yeah "Nurse" Jackie... Cheating Works!!!

[CorporatistNation]

199. Hillary Is A WEAK General Election Candidate... A CERTAIN LOOOSER!!!! UN-ELECTABLE!

ABSOLUTELY... UN-ELECTABLE!

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[rnk6670]

231. Absolutely

couldn't agree more. It's time to move away fromthe status quo and vote for a new direction.

[Betty Karlson]

245. She will doom the party for years to come.

Remember 2014? This will be worse. Because Debbie doesn't want to learn, and Clinton cannot be trusted.

[ismnotwasm]

190. +10^10

[riversedge]

22. Addicting info website gets worse each day

[Joe the Revelator]

113. Voter fraud is HILARIOUS

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAAHHAAHHAHAAHAHAAHAHHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[berniepdx420]

163. I love voter fraud too... so great..woooooo... something to stand behind....yipppy

Oligarchy

[LiberalLovinLug]

232. Nothing like a good ole voter fraud to make me ROFL too!

I mean, some things we should take very seriously, like making sure that Goldman Sachs and the MIC is comfortably assured that nothing will be changing anytime soon.

But voter fraud that effects who is the possible next President?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

Hillary-arious!

[mpcamb]

156. Why Democrats lose elections...

[redstateblues]

207. I believe we won the last two

Dems would not win anything promising to raise taxes ala Walter Mondale - he won one state. His home state MN

[Art_from_Ark]

210. We might have won the last two presidential elections

but we got sideswiped in the last two mid-terms, including losing both houses of Congress.

[Sancho]

164. Sure was confusing checking all the resident addresses of bused in campaign workers!!

Then cutting cards - almost as much fun as flipping coins in Iowa!

Goes to show exactly WHY experience counts in real elections - and this was just a warm up.

At least those new to the process are learning how it works.

[Merryland]

183. It's attitudes like this that will - if Hillary wins the nomination, God forbid

result in lots of progressives simply staying home. And they won't be blackmailed with warnings of Trump, Cruise, etc. to vote for the lesser of evils.

[marew]

237. Absolutely!

There is no way I will ever vote for Hillary!

[TheBlackAdder]

212. When Republicans do this shit against Hillary, and you complain, I'm kicking this post in your face!

.


The democratic process cuts both ways!


.

[Goblinmonger]

239. If Clinton had lost

I'm sure you would have used as many

[xocet]

240. If you think that is funny, you're absolutely going to love President Trump. n/t

[rhett o rick]

247. They will blame HRC's loss on Ralph Nader, never take responsibility. nm

[rhett o rick]

246. And that really says it all right there. nm

[Agschmid]

3. Caucuses suck. But no let's not overturn anything.

[DesertFlower]

7. i agree. nt

[RobertEarl]

19. Thanks for your support

Vote stealing is a-ok in your book?

[Agschmid]

28. Caucuses steal votes...

Try voting when you have to work, the whole system is flawed.

Let's not jump down this posters throat.

[RobertEarl]

32. The whole system is flawed

So why support it and its leaders?

[Agschmid]

55. It doesn't appear either of us support caucuses...

So... Yes?

[RobertEarl]

63. Right

Therefore the results should be discounted in both Nevada and Iowa.

[Agschmid]

69. No...

Wrong.

Caucuses should be changed, but they happened, and all the candidates agreed to it.

This isn't new, some of us have been saying this for years, apparently it's fallen on deaf ears.

[RobertEarl]

77. Can't have it both ways

The counts are flawed and should not be relied upon.

The establishment relies upon vote stealing. No support should ever be given or implied for such thefts,

[zeemike]

100. They don't care because the end justifies the means.

And they will just laugh at it if exposed...and distract from it by saying the system is flawed so it's OK until everything is fixed...knowing that everything will never be fixed.

[Agschmid]

131. Oh look, you are pretending to know what I think...

What else is new?

[zeemike]

154. I was not addressing what anyone thinks.

I was addressing the reality of what was said.
If you are cool with cheating then you feel the end justifies the means.
If you call the system flawed but are OK with it then the same applies but in a passive way.

[Agschmid]

161. Nope didn't say I was "okay with it"...

Have repeatedly day after day said that we should no longer have caucuses they are literally the worst way to elect a candidate.

That's the reality of what was said, seems it got missed.

[zeemike]

171. But did you not say it should stand

Because Bernie signed off on it?
That is like playing poker and someone cheats and you tell them to suck it up because they agreed to play the game.

There is nothing wrong with a caucus system. What is wrong is how it is run.
And if you prefer a voting system with computers that can and are hacked and cheating is done then that system is corrupt too.
Blaming the system just let's the ones who cheat off the hook.

[Agschmid]

180. It should stand.

Move on.

You immediately disenfranchise the 80,000 people who did caucus, by re-caucusing.

And guess what that sucks.

Want to make a change? Push for no caucuses in 2020.

[zeemike]

193. That is the same argument we heard in 2000

From the Bush people..move on and how it would disenfranchise people.

And with the same promise...we will do something next time...and Bush did with the "Help America Vote Act"...a most Orwellian title.

And that would be great...no caucuses in 2020...instead a black box that will take the vote and tell us what it is. Or perhaps just let the party leaders pick for us.
An honest democratic election is so hard.

[Agschmid]

194. Or we just have primary elections...

The drama is over the top.

Don't like it? Change it. In my state we vote on paper ballots, and we have primaries. My state does it right, we've worked our asses of to keep it that way.

I'd suggest you do the same thing, it does take work to have an honest election and we've worked our asses off to get there.

[zeemike]

198. Is your paper ballot scanned by a black box?

That is how my state does it...and we are supposed to trust that the black box is not hacked pr flipped.
And of course to audit those papers you have to get a court order...because transparency is so hard.

But that is what this political revolution is about...wanting to change it...and as long as the establishment keep picking the candidates for us by corrupt practices no change is possible.
And I think we all know that.

[Fawke Em]

234. You can negate the precincts in question and tally the results without them.

That way you punish the offenders and not the rest.

Granted, not everyone at those precincts cheated, but it's really the only way to teach a lesson.

[Agschmid]

236. "Punish the offenders"...

So the voters?

No I don't think so.

Let's just scrap caucuses, let's set up a petition for this. I'm writing a letter today to the DNC I'm sick of the caucus process.

[turbinetree]

184. I stand behind you...................................

Honk--------------------for a political revolution Bernie 2016

[Agschmid]

130. I can have it this way, in this election, especially since the candidates signed off on it.

But I agree this should be the last time the caucus system is a failure.

[kerry-is-my-prez]

176. I've seen widespread videos on the web of worse things than that in the Iowa caucuses in 2008.

Of course, we've all seen much worse in 2000 and 2004 in many states. I guess all of us who have been here for a long time are used to election fraud and worse in this "shining country." Sorry to be cynical.....

[Agschmid]

182. We aren't "used" to it and it isn't "okay".

Caucuses should be gone in 2020, they are bullshit.

[bigwillq]

104. The right answer.

[RoccoR5955]

123. So some having their religious rights violated, and could not vote

mean nothing to you. Very nice to hear.

[Agschmid]

126. My mouth is SO full with words that I didn't say.

Try working retail, you worried about those folks? Or the folks working at the airport who couldn't get the afternoon off? Or the people at the hotel spa, did they get to vote?

You worried about them?

Yes you are, as you should be. Caucuses suck but this wasn't just a religious issue, and don't even pretend it is.

[RoccoR5955]

140. I understand.

I was just bringing up a point that I thought others were not familiar with.

[Agschmid]

150. Nope I'm very familiar with how much caucuses suck.

[Cassiopeia]

143. Nobody's rights were violated.

Their practices may have interfered with their option to go vote, but nobody did anything to impact their rights.

[RoccoR5955]

145. How is it that preventing someone from voting

because of their religious practices is not impacting their religious rights?
I simply do not understand.

[Cassiopeia]

148. The rights everyone has towards religion were not impacted in any way.

They were able to practice their religion exactly as they saw fit.

I believe we should do a lot of things to make voting easier. Time off as a guaranteed right, official voting holidays, polling access increases, free public transportation for those without...... the list is endless.

Many were not able to caucus that day for many reasons.

However, those whose religious beliefs interfered with voting did not have their right to religion violated in any way.

[John Poet]

165. No, only their right to vote was violated.

[Cassiopeia]

168. No, they had every right to go vote as well.

A personal choice impacted their day.

They did not have any violations of rights.

They could have done what thousands of others did and gone to vote. They decided the rules of their religion and exercising their right to practice that religion was more important than exercising their right to go vote.

You can call it many things, you can argue the date/day thing. Many points can be argued except that their rights were impinged upon.

[RoccoR5955]

216. If my religion forbids me from using any machine,

including a pencil, how does voting during the day of my religious observance not infringe on my religious rights?
Your argument does not hold water to me.

[Cassiopeia]

223. It's a matter of choice.

Last edited Mon Feb 22, 2016, 02:54 PM - Edit history (2)

You had the right to vote. You chose your religion over your vote.

It's pretty simple really. You had every right to participate. You chose the option that held the most value personally.

That argument can go quickly down the rabbit hole. I wash my socks every Saturday at noon. How was my right to vote denied by holding the election on Saturday.

It wasn't. I have a right to wash my socks. I have a right to vote. The fact that I chose to wash my socks instead of voting was my choice, not a violation of my rights.

[RoccoR5955]

225. My religion is NOT my choice.

My religion is my RIGHT! My religion is my heritage. My religious services are held on SATURDAY, and my religion forbids me from doing anything that is not religious on the Sabbath.
You still think it's a choice, shame on you.

How do you become your socks every Saturday at noon, and what does that have anything to do with an election?
(to quote you, "I was my socks every Saturday at noon." I find it amazing that you can turn into socks. How do you do it?)

[Cassiopeia]

229. Your religion is absolutely a choice

and you have the right to exercise that choice as you see fit.

You chose to exercise your right to observe the religion of your choice on Saturday. You held your religious views and beliefs at a greater value than your right to vote.

You could have chosen to exercise your right to vote. There was a process to do so.

The fact that you made a choice based on personal beliefs is something you need to deal with.

You can make many arguments about the day it was held, how it was done, problems with locations whatever. They would all be valid arguments to discuss.

Your RIGHTS were not violated though and that is not a valid argument. You chose the right that was most important to you.

ETA that was a typo, it is wash my socks, not was my socks. The rest of the post made that clear though, but the post has been edited to include the missing h.

[RoccoR5955]

241. There was no process to excersise my right to practice my religion

AND vote, while it was not Shabbos.
I did not choose my religion, I was born with it.
Saturday is my Sabbath, and the caucus violated my religious right to practice my religion, had I decided to go to caucus.
You just don't seem to get it.

[Cassiopeia]

244. The schedule did not accommodate your religion.

It did not violate your rights.

Clearly I understand what happened just fine. You are the one that has a problem understanding the difference between accommodation and violation.

For the record, I think a lot should be done regarding elections to be inclusive of everyone and the many demands and desires life brings. Let's work towards that goal honestly for the betterment of the system.

[RoccoR5955]

250. Accodomade my rights?

Now I've heard everything. My rights are supposed to be sacred!
We are not talking about simple preferences here.

And yes we should make elections inclusive. Like by not having them on SATURDAY!

I still wanna know how you become socks on Saturday. Is it a magic thing?

[Cassiopeia]

251. Wow.

It was a typo.

I wash (with an h) my socks on Saturday. That is a right I have. If I choose to exercise my right to wash my socks on Saturday instead of exercising my right to vote, I have made a personal choice. My right to vote was not taken away, my right to wash my socks was not taken away. I chose to do one of those things two things.

You chose your religion and decided to exercise your right to practice your religion on Saturday. That right was not infringed upon in any way. You participated in the your religious activities as you saw fit.

Saturday you had the right to vote. You chose not to participate because something else was more important to you. Your right to vote was not impinged upon, you chose not to exercise that right by not participating.

It's really not that hard to comprehend.

Should we make voting more accessible for everyone? Absolutely and we should work towards that. Stick to the facts though.

[JDPriestly]

172. I agree that voting should not be held on days that are religious holidays for

one or another religious group.

Saturday is a Jewish day of worship. Sunday is a Christian day of worship.

There may be other days for other religions that I do not know about. But we should not hold elections on days that are sacred to one or another religion.

[Cassiopeia]

224. That is a fair argument to make.

Nobody's rights were taken away. They were available for them to exercise as they saw fit.

[JDPriestly]

227. I made calls to people on behalf of Bernie.

The caucus system is inherently unfair. I was surprised at the number of people who could not attend for some legitimate reason. It leaves people out. It is bound to be criticized. The states that run caucuses should do away with that system.

[Cassiopeia]

228. I agree completely.

Not only should we completely adopt a primary system that allows completely private voting, I believe it should be done over the course of several days. Open the system up and let people exercise their rights easily.

I just think it's silly to try to claim rights were violated. They were not. Choices were made based on personal needs and values. Was it terrible people had to turn away from voting due to personal choice? Absolutely, but they didn't have a right violated.

[elljay]

230. Seventh Day Adventists

Are a Christian group that observes a Saturday Sabbath.

[CentralMass]

253. Ilegal activities should be reported and investigated

[Agschmid]

254. Sure... But the OP said overturn the entire result.

And that's a bad idea.

[CentralMass]

255. Letting their camp steal votes state by state us unacceptable.

[DesertFlower]

4. caucuses should be replaced with primaries where

everyone gets a chance to vote.

if i had to caucus i couldn't vote. being disabled there's no way i could. i'm in arizona and i vote by mail.

[Feeling the Bern]

70. I'm overseas. From Arizona. I vote by email. I couldn't caucus either if I wanted to

Being in another country.

[TexasTowelie]

78. There are also arguments against holding primaries.

In Arizona there is legislation to abandon the primary process because the primaries are paid by the state rather than the political parties (it costs Arizona about $10 million). This gives the two main parties an advantage over minor third parties. In closed primary states it also means that part of the electorate cannot participate if they are registered as independents.

http://democratsforever.freeforums.net/thread/2321/committee-votes-arizona-presidential-primary

[fullautohotdog]

149. But here's the kicker with closed primaries...

I don't want the GOP voting for who gets my delegates. That smacks more of voter fraud than the failed caucus system.

[TexasTowelie]

173. I agree with that assessment.

I don't want non-party members to raid in open primary states. Usually it isn't much of a problem for states that hold primaries early in the process since they most likely want to vote in the party that represents them, but it does become a problem in the later primary states since the candidate in their preferred party may have already clinched the nomination.

[INdemo]

185. closed Democratic primary is where only Democrats can vote

That is what we want and we want it monitored by the Federal election Commission not some one like Debbe Wasserman Schultz

[Agschmid]

195. This primary isn't a federal election...

Do people not know this?

[geek tragedy]

5. so this tool wants to disenfranchise all 80 thousand voters who showed up on Saturday?

I guess Kris Kobach has fellow travelers on the left-seeking to disenfranchise thousands in order to combat purported voter fraud.

[Politicalboi]

132. Allowing this to take place

Disenfranchised all those voters, not the messenger. So you HilLIARy supporters don't care about fair elections. I hope your terrible choice gets some more personal time with the FBI. I hope this is the LAST time we ever have a Clinton on the ballot. I hope all those women from the past want another 15 minutes of fame. We'll laugh you right off the page.

[geek tragedy]

136. I'm sorry, did you mean to post that at Free Republic? nt

[Agschmid]

151. Sure seems like... Yikes!

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

177. Nope. Right here on DU. If you don't like it...

[geek tragedy]

186. Forget your login? nt

[Matariki]

6. How do caucuses verify who is eligible to vote?

Who is voting in the correct precinct, etc?

[Agschmid]

13. Same general way primaries do.

Some exceptions for workplaces in NV.

[HooptieWagon]

18. They are supposed to register first.

Show ID, proof of residency, etc. Then it's known they're eligible to caucus. That particular chair allowed anybody who showed up to caucus. Probably checked to make sure they were Zclinton supporters first.

[Matariki]

21. Hmmm. Do you know if there is any follow up on this?

Whether they registered afterward? Or registered at all?

[HooptieWagon]

31. Article said they weren't instructed to stick around and register after caucusing.

For all we know they could have been tourists from Europe.
I find it hard to fathom a person that incompetent was appointed precinct chair, unless deliberately done.

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

179. This entire Dem primary process has been a complete cluster.

Caucuses which should not even be allowed, the way they are currently being run, the superdelegates which further thwart the will of the people, or certainly have the capability to, the hijacking of the DNC by Clinton wing of the party - this should not be happening in any democratic process.

[TheFarS1de]

146. They had to select 7

but by the time the guy called it I doubt there were enough people to fill that paltry number . Check out the video , it is beyond Pythonesque and a sad excuse for a democratic process .

[maynard]

155. Video editing

If you notice the video.... All shots were not continuous. It was edited. Once our precinct caucus started...it took 90 minutes until we finished. That video was not 90 minutes.

It was all about the editing. People could not vote unless they had a ballot.

[TheFarS1de]

159. Did they video edit the desperate plea not to leave ?

[jwirr]

39. Precincts are addresses, for instance a city if it is small, a

ward if in a larger city, a township is in the country. You basically vote where you live.

[Matariki]

44. I understand

My question is about getting address verification when registering.

I don't understand all the lol's in this thread given the content of the video. Sending people in to caucus without registering is clearly a violation of the law. Don't see how that's funny.

[geek tragedy]

49. It's the recommendation that we disenfranchise everyone who showed up yesterday.

People are treating the idea that we overturn the caucus results with the contempt and derision it so richly deserves.

[Matariki]

61. I see.

Refresh my memory, what happened when the Republicans had their Iowa caucus clusterfuck in 2012?

[geek tragedy]

66. ? they sifted through the votes and all was sorted out

by the time of the convention.

they didn't disenfranchise all of their voters in Iowa

[jwirr]

67. In MN they take a utility bill if you have no other kind of

info. But most of us use regular IDs. In small precincts we walk in a say hello to our neighbors. No ID.

[dflprincess]

119. No residency proof is required at all at the caucus

(the utility bill, along with other idea is accepted for registering to vote at the polls on election day). A person need only be eligible to vote on or before election day to participate in caucus but they don't need to be registered yet. (16 and 17 year olds may attend, join in discussion but cannot vote on anything. Except the 17 year olds that will be 18 by election day.)

It is possible for one caucus goer to challenge another about where they live and then an ID might be produced to show where a person lives - but, as you said, mostly everyone recognizes each other.

Since 1972 I've only seen a person questioned once and then it wasn't so much a challenge as informative. Precinct lines had been redrawn and the person who showed up at mine lived on the boundery. Had she lived on the east side of a particular street she would have been in our caucus, as it was she was in another one. Just an honest mistake.

But everyone has to sign in before they'll be given a ballot and by signing in they say they "generally" agree with the principles of the DFL and will support DFL/Democratic candidate. this year.

[jwirr]

218. Correct but we have a lady who just moved into the state

- she asked in case she would need something. One of the most asked questions asked were about ID - from people like her and college students who live in the dorms. We gave the above answer JUST in case.

[Boldine]

79. In another part of Nevada

they had to show a D/L and that was verified against the list of registered Dem voters before they were allowed to proceed.

What happened in Las Vegas should NOT stay in Las Vegas - it needs to be brought out into the light and reviewed. You are right Matariki, what happened in Clark County was a violation of the law.

(Disclaimer: I am not able to vote, but I do support the rights of others, but only if that is done in the correct way.)

[Thor_MN]

101. The video appears to be from one of nine At Large Caucuses

specifically for people who could not get to a hour long event near their home because of work. Las Vegas is 24x7 so they did these At Large Caucuses to cover shift workers. They had to show proof of employment in the area of the caucus.

For everyone aghast that people started leaving before delegates were chosen, I'll assume that they have never participated in a caucus before.

The main event is to apportion the delegates to the candidates. A candidate has to get 15% support or they are not viable. After the initial count, supporters of nonviable candidates are allowed to shift to viable groups or join with others to make a viable group. After that, another count is done and the number of delegates for that caucus are split between the viable groups.

Once that is done, everyone who is not interested in being a delegate and attending the next level, can leave. There is no point in sticking around if you don't have the time or will to travel to the next level caucus. All that is needed is enough people willing to represent the people they caucused with. Sometimes people vie for the spots, often it is "We need two more!! Please!" If not enough delegates are named at the caucus, the Party will assign them, with the instructions on who they are pledged to. But it is not required that anyone who doesn't want to be a delegate to stick around. This apparently being a caucus specifically for people who could not get to their neighborhood caucus, it should not be a surprise that they quickly unassed the area.

FWIW, the 19 delegates mentioned in this video are less than two tenths of one percent of the statewide delegates. Seems to be an awful lot of furor over an insignificant event.

[maynard]

141. Eligibility to vote in caucus

I don't like the caucus system. That said....

They verify your status on the voter roles before they give you a ballot. They check your precinct. You then go into the room for your assigned precinct.

I pre-registered and had an access code that got me in through the registration express lane. Had to show a copy of my pre-registration. I was given a ballot with all my identifying data on it. Had to turn my ballot in at the end of voting.

[bravenak]

8. Oh boy!

[SidDithers]

9. ...

I can't wait for SuperTuesday. It's going to fucking epic around here.

Sid

[giftedgirl77]

29. Hell yeah, this has turned into a spectator sport.

[geek tragedy]

43. past 24 hours have been really revealing as to what we're dealing with.nt

[zappaman]

84. Just curious...I could have sworn you had a Sanders avatar.

Did you change it?

[geek tragedy]

87. after the "Dolores Huerta is on the take and is a contemptible liar" stuff from Team Bernie

I just couldn't anymore.

These are the people who will build the party and defeat the Republicans.

Puh-leaze. Anyone dumb enough to pick a fight with Dolores Huerta while trying to woo non-white voters is too dumb to be trusted to be in charge of the party.

[zappaman]

91. Wow.

That shit really was over the top, wasn't it?

[geek tragedy]

93. I was practically the only Bernie supporter telling them what a goddamn awful idea that was.

Which lead to the epiphany.

I still don't like Clinton, and I will probably vote for Sanders in the NY primary as a protest vote.

But anger and outrage and magical thinking aren't a plan.

[Wibly]

114. Yeah, sure

Claim to be a Bernie supporter then give yourself away by launching into a Clinton talking point (magical thinking).
Not sure who you think you're fooling, but in the end, you're fooling you.

[geek tragedy]

117. hey, if you all think insulting Dolores Huerta will earn you Latino votes, knock yourselves out nt

[zappaman]

205. Thanks for illustrating his point.

[Wibly]

102. Walked back

The Huerta thing has been walked back, both by witnesses and video evidence.
Who are you working for?

[geek tragedy]

105. the nasty attacks on her by the Bernie followers have not been walked back

And, I know a lot of you Bernie supporters have trouble believing this, but people can decide to not support Bernie Sanders without being paid.

[libdem4life]

110. I always wonder about people who decide to vote for or against a candidate

because of certain untoward action of a few supporters. Seems childish...has nothing to do with the candidate, where he stands, how he would govern, etc. But because they don't like something someone did? Boggles the mind.

[geek tragedy]

122. its' becoming more and more clear that Bernie Sanders's movement is not rooted in reality.

you have people talking about a revolution, but doing everything they can do alienate key potential allies from becoming part of it.

people genuinely interested in a revolution would know that you don't make allies and build a winning cross-societal coalition by browbeating people on Twitter and Facebook.

And Sanders's followers are a key component of his promise to deliver change. His proposal is to transform the system via popular demand. If he can't deliver a movement of smart, savvy people who will persuade others, he's got nothing and we might as well go with a technocrat like Clinton who can operate the current machinery.

[libdem4life]

125. I think it's curious how you know all about "all of the Sander's supporters".

Are you psychic? People see what they want to see and believe what fits their version of reality.

See, to this Bernie supporter, I'd prefer not to vote for a Republican Lite. You have no right to speak about me. Generalizing is not terribly effective or useful as a point of argument/conversation.

I don't have to demonize you or any of the uncivil things some HRCs supporters say or do. Non-starter. It has nothing to do with personalities...except for the candidates.

[geek tragedy]

138. I don't like Hillary Clinton. My plan is to still vote for Sanders as a protest vote.

but if you think DU is the only place where this dynamic is occurring ...

[libdem4life]

142. It doesn't change a thing. The dynamic you speak of goes both ways.

Always has, always will ,especially in politics. Assholes aren't party-specific. Nothing new under the sun...at least they are paying attention. I think it's a small minority...again, from both camps, but it will likely heat up.

[Rocky the Leprechaun]

111. You know why the nasty attack? Because she LIED.

She lied for the name of Team Clinton.

There's no ways around it. You accepted the lie and tell us Bernie supporters we're bad because the Nevadans Bernie supporters demanded a neutral interpreter, and none was found?

I don't care what the attacks are, the consequences were severe for Huerta and Team Clinton. They earned it, so suck it up, and put that Bernie icon back on and let's get back to work. You look like you're just giving up for Team Clinton because she's your Senator?

That's where I'm going to leave it.

[geek tragedy]

116. um, the consequences were not severe for Huerta and Clinton.

Here's what y'all don't get.

Hillary and Huerta would like nothing more than Sanders people to make this a story about Bernie Sanders supporters vs Dolores Huerta.

Because in the Latino community, Bernie aint' winning that kind of storyline.

His supporters refuse to understand this.

Refuse.

And it's not like Bernie supporters are even in the top 1000 in terms of Huerta's toughest opponents. She plays politics very hard.

[Agschmid]

133. Yup.

[mcar]

169. I bought extra popcorn

My popper will be busy that night.

[kgnu_fan]

11. Need more eyeballs to see this nt

[HooptieWagon]

12. It would be good to get that precinct chair's name.

It's pretty evident the Clinton campaign will cheat to win. We can keep collecting the evidence.

[Agschmid]

15. So because one guy appears to be an idiot... Clinton cheated?

Big jump IMO.

[HooptieWagon]

20. Idiot... or following instructions?

[Agschmid]

24. I'd go with "idiot".

But hey jump to all the baseless conclusions you want to, I can't stop you.

[A Simple Game]

71. Pretend he was accessing an unprotected database and

answer that again but say Bernie instead of Clinton.

Same answer?

[Agschmid]

73. Bernie fired the person responsible for the data issue.

Bernie did right thing there.

This caucus guy is just clearly an idiot.

[rbrnmw]

14. ....

[artislife]

16. Business as usual...

don't fight the machine. Put the curtain back, Toto, we need to just carry on as we have been.

[Bad Thoughts]

17. Not enough to make a difference

Just eliminate those responsible from the party and prevent them from conducting any election in the future.

[giftedgirl77]

23. Wow.

Thanks for the laugh.

[jillan]

25. In Iowa they had to show that the number of votes = the number registered in each precinct.

Did they do that in Nevada? I think that is what we need to see.

[Agschmid]

30. In NV some people caucus at work NOT where they are registered.

[jillan]

34. Signed in. Proof of registration. You cannot just waltz into a caucus site & vote.

[Agschmid]

51. I agree.

But I'd go further and say loose the caucus.

[maynard]

153. Nevada votes

Yes they did. I could not go in until I had registered and checked against voter lists. No registration....no ballot. No ballot....no vote. Body count had to match number of ballots turned in.

[sadoldgirl]

26. They have just as much of a chance to be

overturned as getting all the raw data from IA: zilch!

[geek tragedy]

35. yes, we don't disenfranchise people because of whiny bloggers

That's a core principle of the Democratic party. Apparently some Sanders supporters have no problem disenfranchising people.

[72DejaVu]

27. The Sanders Strategy:

Win or delegitimize the results.

[nc4bo]

40. And Hillary, I don't believe I ever have[lied], Clinton's strategy is..............?

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/hillary-clinton-shes-truth-americans/story?id=37043658

"Have you always told the truth?" CBS News' Scott Pelley asked Clinton during an interview with the network after discussing the Democratic presidential candidate's pledge not to raise taxes on the middle class.

"I've always tried to. Always, always," Clinton replied.

"Some people are going to call that wiggle room that you just gave yourself,” Pelley told her.

"Well, you know, you're asking me to say, 'Have I ever?'" Clinton said, "I don't believe I ever have. I don't believe I ever have. I don't believe I ever will."

"I'm going to do the best I can to level with the American people," she added.

??????????????

[firebrand80]

64. Faux outrage is good for fundraising nt

[kenn3d]

33. This can NOT be democracy...

PLEASE don't tell me this is democracy in America in 2016

smh

[geek tragedy]

38. people who favor disenfranchsing everyone in Nevada are the ones who hate democracy nt

[kenn3d]

45. People who favor disregard for any and all semblance of democratic process

are just fine with it as long as Hillary wins.

[geek tragedy]

48. no, I just oppose attempts by non-Democrats to disenfranchise Democrats

by trying to cancel their votes ex post facto.

Some real Katherine Harris types.

[amborin]

94. "non-Democrats" you say? parroting Hillary. Isn't that against the site rules?

[geek tragedy]

96. how do you figure? It's not people supporting Clinton who have called for Democrats

to be disenfranchised because their candidate lost.

[amborin]

118. wait, so you are clarifying that you meant Bernie supporters are "non-Democrats?"

[geek tragedy]

124. in terms of registration and commitment to the party, not to the degree that Clinton

supporters are.

Indeed, Sanders supporters generally express their contempt for the Democratic party. It's the 'establishment' that they want to tear down.

And here the Sanders folks are, demanding to disenfranchise Democrats.

Because they didn't like how those Democrats voted.

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

174. I'm 61 and have been a registered Democrat since I was 19.

I vote in every election, even the one we a couple of weeks ago which just had one Judge position on the ballot.

So please cut the insults. You should be ashamed for creating such division. It's already bad enough, but you apparently want some kind of DU civil war, from your attitude.

Yes, we have contempt for what the Democratic Party has become. It is so far from the Democratic Party of FDR, that we strongly feel we have to take the party back from the moneyed interests; the oligarchs, corporatists, Wall Street, and the Military Industrial Complex. I would vote for Dwight Eisenhower ANY DAY OF THE WEEK over Hillary Clinton. Or Bill Clinton, for that matter. And I voted for him twice.

Have a good evening.

[amborin]

189. great post!

party apparatchiks seem to have no understanding of what democracy is, or the history of Democratic Party under FDR. It's a scary situation.

[amborin]

188. you insult me, my husband, my community, and all Bernie supporters.

[Matariki]

56. What does that mean?

What are you saying?

Do you think breaking election laws is okay? Don't you think the folks sending people in to caucus without registering should be investigated? Do you care for democracy so little?

I don't understand the reactions in this thread. Do you think the video was edited or something? Or is it just that breaking the law is okay if it benefits your candidate?

All you folks laughing about this, you realize caucusing without being registered is illegal, right?

[geek tragedy]

59. I direct your attention to the title of this thread, which calls for the results of an election

to be canceled, and the voters disenfranchised.

Which is being enthusiastically supported by Team Bernie here.

[Matariki]

65. Fair enough

Of course that's absurd. That incident should be looked into though. Given the evidence.

[geek tragedy]

68. of course. no one would have mocked a thread for suggesting that.

if there were irregularities, those should be investigated

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

203. That's not true. That particular voting location should be invalidated.

Subtract 13 delegates from Hillary and Subtract 6 from Bernie. And the only bad thing about it? 19 people won't be going to to the parties at the Democratic Convention.

[geek tragedy]

206. It says the Nevada caucus results, not one precinct nt

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

208. You're correct. I don't agree with that.

I would like to invalidate that particular location, though. The people running that mess should be kicked out of the party.

[maynard]

129. Nevada caucas

I was caucusing in Clark County. If you did not register...you did not get a ballot. No ballot...no vote. If you were not in line by noon..you did not get to register. We did not get to start caucusing until 1:30. Oh yeah, Hillary stopped by, shook hands and took pictures with people in line. It all came down to your precinct leader. Some people wanted to rush the process.

Ours did it correctly.

Only those people interested in being a delegate to the county convention stuck around. We had enough people to nominate each other. I am a delegate for Hillary.

We need to go back to the primary process. So many people did not get a chance to participate since this is a 24 hour town. That is why adjustments were made for casino workers. Of course republicans will do theirs on Tuesday so Sheldon Addleson wont have to abstain from participating on a Saturday.

[Matariki]

137. I used to enjoy caucusing, but agree - primaries would be much more inclusive

There are some occupations that absolutely have to be staffed - hospitals, law enforcement, to name a couple. As well as the fact that businesses and restaurants aren't going to close for the caucus. This means there are people who won't be able to participate in the small time window. It's wrong.

[BlueMTexpat]

166. Like you, I prefer primaries to caucuses

so that more people can participate in the voting process. I also support early voting and extended hours at the polls.

That said, anyone who proposes overturning yesterday's caucus results has literally no understanding of states' rights and the political party system within those states' rights. It simply cannot and will not happen.

If people really want to change the system, they need to join the party of their choice and work within that party to change it. It takes time to cause meaningful change because change requires consensus building. Building consensus is no easy task.

And that's the crux of the problem for too many who don't understand the difference between passionate online outcries for revolution once every four years and the actual on-the-ground daily drudgery that is needed to make change happen.

[Codeine]

107. It's a party selection process.

Actual democracy comes later.

[wyldwolf]

36. the 'progressive' movement is imploding

[Ned_Devine]

112. Even if that were true, is that what you'd prefer?

[wyldwolf]

214. Yep

Puritopian

A Puritopian is a self-described liberal or progressive whose political orientation is to be angry, dissatisfied and unhappy with the state of the nation, because in their view, liberal policies are not being implemented quickly or forcefully enough. They have particular contempt for Democratic presidents.

They are ideological purists who disdain compromise and incremental change, which they see as "selling out" liberal ideas like full employment, an end to war, and liberal social policy. Their views can often sound like utopian fantasy where opposing views never exist.

Puritopians dislike Republicans but reserve their greatest disdain for Democratic presidents, whom they relentlessly attack for not meeting a set of ideological goal posts that are constantly adjusted to ensure that the president will be deemed a disappointment, "not progressive enough" or "just like a Republican" no matter what policy achievements are made.

Puritopians routinely dismiss or ignore congress' role in making or impeding policy, believing presidents can simply "use the bully pulpit" in order to overcome constitutional or legislative obstacles.

Puritopians have an affinity for 3rd party politics as a way to punish Democratic presidents. They are especially hostile to President Obama and deem anyone who expresses a lack of ill will toward him to be "Obamabots" and enemies of liberalism.

[Karmadillo]

37. Not a problem since we have an oligarchy that masquerades as a pretend democracy.

Chaos is a feature not a bug.

[amborin]

99. +100000

[Lorien]

197. Exactly. nt

[TheFarS1de]

41. It's a bloody circus ...

and that clown running it .... what the hell was he doing? Non registered voters , no selection of delegates and writing it down on his hand . If this is what they want to show the younger voters forget them showing up . In this day and age this is the best they can do ?

[snagglepuss]

42. This needs more exposure. k n r eom

[geek tragedy]

47. I think Bernie's campaign should sue to overturn the results of the caucus.

Disenfranchising 80,000 people--as the OP is demanding--is a fantastic way for the revolution to show its dedication to democracy and empowering people.

[zappaman]

46. Lol!

[brooklynite]

50. Funny how Bernie Sanders doesn't agree with you, isn't it?

[Hoyt]

52. Assuming it happened like that, registration is just a formality, keeping the place open until that

paperwork was finished wouldn't have changed the vote results. I think they should have been registered, but it didn't change the results unless you are into impeding voters who might vote against your candidate.

[peace13]

90. Do they drive to the next caucus and vote again?

Or do these things all start at the same time? How do we even know if the people are NV residents? I mean really I have worked many elections and these are some pretty important questions.

[Hoyt]

95. Oh god, you are sounding like a tpartier on voter IDs and similar crud.

[peace13]

157. I actually live in Ohio and we have voter ID...

Not a fan but people do sign in and match their signatures.

[Agschmid]

135. Maybe do a google before you post?

[peace13]

160. All rudeness aside...

...they needed to register. If you disregard this simple measure why bother with the process at all? And that isn't really a question so..no need for Google!

[Agschmid]

162. As I've said throughout the entire thread, caucuses are flawed.

They should go the way of the do-do bird IMO.

[Tarc]

53. "Here’s Why The Nevada Caucus RESULTS Should Be Overturned"

"Because my preferred candidate lost"

[geek tragedy]

57. I can't recall a real Democrat ever demanding that we ex post disenfranchise voters nt

[bravenak]

54. Still!

[AJH032]

58. Out of curiosity, why is "results" capitalized in the title?

I'm trying to understand the emphasis on that word? So odd.

[geek tragedy]

62. they are emphasizing that they want to disenfranchise everyone who voted

somehow in their hive mind, they're convinced that it's a great idea to try to steal an election by disenfranchising everyone

[chervilant]

191. You might want to visit

this OP, and update your IL. I certainly have.

[randome]

220. Yeah, I've noticed that quite a lot recently.

Strangely capitalized verbs to emphasize the histrionics, I suppose.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Birds are territorial creatures.
The lyrics to the songbird's melodious trill go something like this:
"Stay out of my territory or I'll PECK YOUR GODDAMNED EYES OUT!"[/center][/font][hr]

[AJH032]

226. Glad I'm not the only one

I know it's not exactly relevant, but my mind can't help but focus on it.

[randome]

248. It bugs me, too!

[hr][font color="blue"][center]Birds are territorial creatures.
The lyrics to the songbird's melodious trill go something like this:
"Stay out of my territory or I'll PECK YOUR GODDAMNED EYES OUT!"[/center][/font][hr]

[Ernest T]

60. Democrats lose general election

because Hillary's campaign is pissing off the Bernie supporters and they may not turn out to vote for her. Hey Hillary! Knock it off! You will need us come November.

[geek tragedy]

76. so y'all can dish it out but can't take it? nt

[Ernest T]

89. Hillary's tactics

are shameful, disingenuous and damaging to the entire party, not just Bernie and his supporters.

[H2O Man]

72. That's really disturbing.

Recommended.

[nadinbrzezinski]

74. Will not be overturned

but it is an argument for just primary elections, and a very strong one.

[840high]

83. As long as Hillary is cheating - yes we

will call her on it.

[geek tragedy]

97. are you disappointed that the Sanders campaign isn't suing to nullify the caucus results as the OP

is saying should happen?

[McCamy Taylor]

80. ...because Sanders did not win. We hear you.

[chervilant]

192. Really?

You REALLY think that's the reason? I am disappointed that you have so little regard for your fellow DUers that you can believe that concern about probable dishonesty during the Nevada caucus is merely because "Sanders did not win."

SMDH.

[leftofcool]

81. Oh boy.

[Dustlawyer]

82. Sadly, it's not a laughing matter.

No one on this board would be laughing if their candidate was victimized unless they really don't give a shit either way. This I a an election in the United States and what is on tape is an unfunny joke! It's amazingly bad and the results of this prove nothing other than they are totally unreliable. We all need to video as we go through this process!

[geek tragedy]

103. anyone who calls to disenfranchise all 80,000 people who showed up yesterday

deserves to be laughed right off of DU.

YOU LOST YESTERDAY. GET OVER IT.

No crying in baseball.

[KingFlorez]

85. I knew this would happen

Any other result other than a Sanders win should be overturned.

[laruemtt]

86. Yesterday at caucus

I was told by one of the caucus captains that I did not need any ID. I just needed to sign the form affirming that I am me, and that it would be a felony if I lied! They didn't look at any IDs!

[OhZone]

88. I hear Alex Jones is a great place to find important stuff like this -

And lizard people -

hahahaa

[sharp_stick]

98. Oh For Fuck's Sake

Move on. This is truly pathetic

[Rocky the Leprechaun]

106. Based on this, I believe that the caucus is illegitimate.

I have a working theory that the union bosses was watching who the union people were voting for, and was rushing the whole fucking thing from start to end.

I have a caucus too, and I intend to stay to see it through, film any chaos, and make sure that Clinton people are forcibly removed by rule if they are causing too much ruckus. By that, I mean one hint of impropriety and I will go straight to the chair and chew his ass out for not having the caucus under control.

[geek tragedy]

108. do you think the Sanders campaign should sue to get the results thrown out? nt

[Rocky the Leprechaun]

115. No. They have accepted the results and moved on.

New strategies will be implemented for Caucus states, and it is expected Bernie will win the rest of the caucus states, including my own.

[Agschmid]

139. So you'll disenfranchise Clinton supporters?

Clinton people are forcibly removed by rule if they are causing too much ruckus

Because they cause a "ruckus"...

Define ruckus lol... And I better be worth disenfranchising other voters.

[kerry-is-my-prez]

211. What if Sanders people create a "ruckus." Will you demand they forcibly be removed too?

[Agschmid]

215. No.

Ruckus away.

You've still got the right to vote.

[HassleCat]

109. Perhaps you do not understand the purpose of the caucus.

It is designed to present the appearance of fair, orderly process while allowing party insiders to break whatever rules they care to break. If you check the Clinton supporter responses to your post, you may gain a deeper appreciation for the true purpose of the caucus process.

[AzDar]

128. Most fascinating are those purporting to be Sanders supporters whilst constantly rage-revealing

that they fanatically support Clinton.

It is a tale...
told by an idiot...
full of sound and fury...
signifying NOTHING.

[RoccoR5955]

120. Don't forget that the caucus was held on a religious holy day for some

FYI- Religious Jews practice their Sabbath on Saturday. For that reason alone the whole thing should be thrown out.
A religious Jew cannot do anything that involves what their religion considers work on their Sabbath. I know, I was a "Goy Boy" when I lived in Brooklyn in the 70s. One time the Synagogue near my house had its alarm go off, and the rabbi there asked if I would turn it off. When I was a kid in the 60s, I was always invited to a friend's house to watch the Mets games on TV. I could turn on the TV, but my friend's father could not, because of his religion. If they cannot turn off an alarm or turn on a TV, they cannot vote, and thus, were systematically excluded from voting on Saturday.
This should be an outrage!
I also believe that there are some other Middle Eastern religions that practice their Sabbath on Saturday as well.

[Babel_17]

158. Jewish and Seventh Day Adventist voters left out of Nevada Democratic caucuses

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/jewish-and-seventh-day-adventist-voters-left-out-of-nevada-democratic-caucuses/

In 2012, Republicans also caucused on a Saturday, yet an alternate time was arranged after sundown. Harlig noted that Las Vegas-based casino magnate Sheldon Adelson, a major GOP donor, possibly influenced state Republicans' decision to accommodate observant Jews. Republicans will caucus on Tuesday. State Democrats, Harlig suggested, possibly lack an individual with comparable wealth or clout to spur a time change.

Rabbi Bradley Tecktiel, the community relations council chairman at the Jewish Federation of Las Vegas, criticized the "insensitive response" of the state Democratic party. Alternate arrangements were proposed to state Democrats, he said, yet those requests were rebuffed.

[mhatrw]

121. My take on how Clinton won Clark County by so much in both 2008 & 2016 is that the campaign

got the rich casino owners and union bosses to stack the caucuses with any and every available warm body for Clinton, whether or not this warm body was a resident of the Nevada or a even a citizen of the USA. Basically, Sanders voters had to vote and register on their own time, while most casino Clinton voters were voting on a supervised work break without having to worry about registering to vote.

The caucusing rules were changed by the Nevada Democratic party (run by Reid's "second in command&quot on a last minute, ad hoc basis to accommodate this stacking of the deck in all of the casino precincts, and the party operatives running the show made sure they fudged the math and/or delayed the proceedings enough to award 1-2 extra county delegates to Clinton at each precinct whenever this would not be too obvious.

[TIME TO PANIC]

134. Damn, I had no idea it was that sloppy!

WTF!

[Beacool]

144. Wow!!!! Whine, whine, whine.

When Sanders won NH, people here were chortling like canaries and wondered if Hillary would drop out before Super Tuesday.

Sanders lost NV, get over it and move on.

[bkkyosemite]

147. I absolutely believe Bernie Sanders won NV

[Agschmid]

152. But he didn't... So?

[laruemtt]

178. + 1,000,000,000,000

[Lorien]

200. And Iowa too. The whole stinks as badly as Florida did in 2000

Bernie has already trounced her in the popular vote, even *with* all of the "irregularities".

[Agschmid]

201. There is only one state who reported a "popular vote" so yeah he did.

[mythology]

167. Utter nonsense

The desperation is really sad.

[Kalidurga]

170. NOPE

But, yes look into this and figure out what happened.

This was good to post though, to see where some people think this kind of stuff is just fine as long as they win.

[JDPriestly]

175. The results are null and void if people who were not eligible to vote were counted.

It is illegal to count the votes of people without making sure they are eligible to vote.

[Merryland]

181. Outrageous

Isn't this why we have the Federal Election Commission? I hope someone is tracking all of this shit.

[BainsBane]

187. Nevada law allows registration on the day of the caucus

As is the case in a number of states. That is what states do when they want people to vote.

How hard is it to check something like that? Talk about sloppy journalism.

Who can participate in the caucus?
Any person who is eligible to vote in the state of Nevada and will be at least 18 years old on Election Day, November 8, 2016, may participate. You must reside in the precinct in which they wish to participate, and must be registered as a Democrat — you may register or change party affiliation on caucus day.

http://action.nvdems.com/page/content/caucus_faq/

[Bernblu]

202. Third world or Third way? You decide.

[alcibiades_mystery]

204. One of the hardest things you have to teach children is how to lose a game with grace and dignity

Apparently, some never learn.

We started with board games. Team sports help as well. Some times you win. Some times you lose. Most kids handle it by age seven or eight.

If your belief is that when you win, it's legit, and when you lose, it's probably cheating by the winner, then you've probably never learned the valuable lessons of childhood. Or, you've reverted, under the influence of some irrationality, to the mentality of a three year old.

[redstateblues]

209. Nailed it. Lots of sore losers out there

[Bread and Circus]

213. This kind of thing is ok? wtf

[Rider3]

217. Lying Liars....

and cheating cheaters. I just don't trust Hillary to do the right thing. And, I'm sick of getting 5 or 6 emails from her daily. I've never given to her; I've only given to Bernie. I don't get harassed by any Bernie emails.

[AlbertCat]

219. Well.....

.... even with the establishment's darling who has been campaigning for about a decade now, and was expected to just breeze thru... with operatives placed everywhere....PLUS this cheating and deliberate confusion...

Sanders did amazingly well! And has for these first few states.

[johnlucas]

243. Hillary's scared of Bernie & she SHOULD be

All of her gimmicks & tricks will not defeat him.
Bernie will run the gauntlet on her ass & by the time we get to the nomination it's gonna be 2008 all over again.
I just hope she doesn't run off at the mouth with those assassination quips like she did last time.

The Grassroots will defeat The Establishment in 2016.
That's a Guaran-DAMN-Tee.
John Lucas

[MariaThinks]

221. why stop there - let's invalidate evey hillary victory preemptively.

she can only win by cheating or coin tosses.

sickening.

sarcasm off.

[Javaman]

222. U.S Democracy: the best one money can buy. nt

[geretogo]

233. It looks to me that the oligarchs that own this country still rule it through the back door as

they have always done . A democracy , HA , HA , HA .

[Corey_Baker08]

235. Hillary Won By Over 5 Percent, Its Not Like She Won By 1%

[Spitfire of ATJ]

238. This is big news locally....

There is a general feeling from the reporting that it's not so much the Clintons but the DNC that is being biased against Bernie and the stories always seem to bring up Debbie Wassermann Schultz.

BTW: Lots of people are coming to the conclusion that Nevada has outgrown the caucus format. I chatted with organizers and they said they are seeing a LOT of people now wanting to participate in the selection process.

[johnlucas]

242. Don't worry about it. We'll take her out on Super Tuesday

Let the Clinton Machine do its thing.
They're gonna NEED to pull out all the stops to stop this INFERNO.
But in the end they will find out that there are too many BERNS to cool down.

Bernie Sanders is YOUR 45th President.
And he's the BEST damn 45th President there ever was.


John Lucas

[Maedhros]

249. If there is one thing we have learned since 2000, it's that the Democratic Party does not care

about election fraud.

They didn't care when Bush stole the general election TWICE. They didn't care when numerous experts demonstrated that the electronic voting machines were easily hacked. They didn't care when election results drastically diverged from exit polls.

They certainly won't care about election fraud when it's their own apparatchiks perpetrating it.

[INdemo]

252. What if these very irregular practices were committed and it

was Hiilary Clinton that lost votes or delegate..Dont you think every Corporate News Outlet would be screaming.
Dont you think the Hillary Campaign officials would turn red faced/have panic attacks if it was discovered that Caucus goers didnt even register and then left right after the caucus..
Now I am no expert and Ive never been to a Caucus before but do you think if they tallied up all the caucus votes with the people that registered or signed in dont you think that would have shown irregularities?
And what do you suppose these boards would look like....My Computer screen would have never survived all the Hillary Fans screaming....and the swear words and the F.....this and F<<< that...

But then a win is a win even if the Precinct Captains cheat..its still a win right Hillary..
Did David Rock teach this stuff to you and Bill?

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256. Two words

Flop sweat.

This post has it bad.