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WillyT

(72,631 posts)
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 05:47 PM Feb 2016

John Lewis Staunchly Opposed The Clintons’ Gutting Of Welfare In 1996 - Salon

John Lewis staunchly opposed the Clintons’ gutting of welfare in 1996, yet now endorses Hillary and slams Sanders
Rep. John Lewis continues to support Hillary for president despite her support for controversial welfare bill

Ben Norton - Salon
Monday, Feb 22, 2016 12:49 PM PST

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“How can any person of faith, of conscience, vote for a bill that puts a million more kids into poverty?” Rep. John Lewis asked on the House floor in July 1996. “What does it profit a great nation to conquer the world, only to lose its soul?” Lewis was speaking in opposition to the so-called “welfare reform” overseen by the Clintons. Among Bill’s 1992 campaign promises was to “end welfare as we know it.” In 1996, with the steadfast help of Hillary, he fulfilled that promise.

President Bill Clinton proudly signed the Personal Responsibility and Work Opportunity Act, which was based on legislation first proposed by Republican Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich; Hillary, meanwhile, enthusiastically lobbied on behalf of the bill. The Clintons’ welfare reform axed the Aid to Families with Dependent Children federal assistance program, which the Social Security Act had created six decades before, and replaced the New Deal program with the drastically weaker Temporary Assistance for Needy Families program.

The Intercept reported on Lewis’ dissent in a piece detailing how current Republican presidential candidate John Kasich and the Clintons collaborated on the legislation, which helped double extreme poverty in the U.S.: https://theintercept.com/2016/02/13/john-kasich-and-the-clintons-collaborated-on-law-that-helped-double-extreme-poverty-in-america/

As Lewis warned, a scientific study released at the time found that the gutting of welfare would push more than a million children into poverty. Three senior officials on welfare policy resigned from the Clinton administration in response to the legislation. Peter Edelman, a legal scholar and longtime friend of the Clintons who served as an assistant secretary at the Department of Health and Human Services and quit in protest, said he “personally handed” a copy of the study to the president.

Edelman told The New York Times “I have devoted the last 30-plus years to doing whatever I could to help in reducing poverty in America. I believe the recently enacted welfare bill goes in the opposite direction.”

In “The Worst Thing Bill Clinton Has Done,” Edelman’s 1997 article in The Atlantic, he warned that “the bill that President Clinton signed is not welfare reform. It does not promote work effectively, and it will hurt millions of poor children by the time it is fully implemented.” He called it “the major milestone in the political race to the bottom.”

Reflecting on the Clinton-backed legislation on the House floor, Lewis said “The bill we are considering today is a bad bill. I will vote against it and I urge all people of conscience to vote against it. It is a bad bill because it penalizes children for the actions of their parents. This bill, Mr. Speaker, will put 1 million more children into poverty.

“Where is the compassion, where is the sense of decency, where is the heart of this Congress? This bill is mean, it is base, it is downright low down,” he continued, adding “This bill is an abdication of our responsibility and an abandonment of our morality. It is wrong, just plain wrong.”

Two decades later, nevertheless...

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More: http://www.salon.com/2016/02/22/john_lewis_staunchly_opposed_the_clintons_gutting_of_welfare_in_1996_yet_now_endorses_hillary_and_slams_sanders/


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John Lewis Staunchly Opposed The Clintons’ Gutting Of Welfare In 1996 - Salon (Original Post) WillyT Feb 2016 OP
K & R AzDar Feb 2016 #1
weird. nashville_brook Feb 2016 #2
Like what's with the endorsement? Gregorian Feb 2016 #3
Follow the money. TexasMommaWithAHat Feb 2016 #4
I have no problem with that part. I'm curious about the exchange, if there is one. Gregorian Feb 2016 #12
It's Always About The Money.... LovingA2andMI Feb 2016 #13
also, hrc and bill are famous 4 paybacks roguevalley Feb 2016 #25
I wonder what happened between then and now? Waiting For Everyman Feb 2016 #5
...and now they're best buddies Ferd Berfel Feb 2016 #6
Do you really want to go there? oasis Feb 2016 #8
Why Not? LovingA2andMI Feb 2016 #14
Go where? That money and power make for strange bedfellows? jhart3333 Feb 2016 #16
Good one. zentrum Feb 2016 #17
Money, position, accolades. Why mess with a good thing? nt thereismore Feb 2016 #7
“What does it profit a great nation to conquer the world, only to lose its soul?” thereismore Feb 2016 #9
It depends how much you profit from selling your soul. Fuddnik Feb 2016 #19
That's cold. thereismore Feb 2016 #35
Guess he also has a weathervane on top of his house bigwillq Feb 2016 #10
If you were to swap the policy positions and actions of Hillary and Bernie Broward Feb 2016 #11
Truth: HeartoftheMidwest Feb 2016 #15
The wind changed direction. Feeling the Bern Feb 2016 #18
KnR !! 99th_Monkey Feb 2016 #20
Yes he did and Bernie voted FOR it! So what is the point you are making? Jitter65 Feb 2016 #21
UGH! Skid Rogue Feb 2016 #26
Lewis can say he didn't see Bernie, but he can't say he didn't see this. nt 99th_Monkey Feb 2016 #22
An extremely shameful act, and Lewis selective memory doesn't serve him well. EndElectoral Feb 2016 #23
Yeah, that was bad. Most Democrats opposed it. Skid Rogue Feb 2016 #24
Interesting quote. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Feb 2016 #27
I personally believe that you could take Jesus Christ right off the mountain give him an easy job LiberalArkie Feb 2016 #28
Would that one public figure, by any chance, be MsLeopard Feb 2016 #30
and that's the most dispiriting part of all of this: not just that they're backing policies they MisterP Feb 2016 #29
What do you mean "Clintons"? SleeplessinSoCal Feb 2016 #31
i don't even know what to say to this. nt restorefreedom Feb 2016 #32
Yes, but the Clintons didn't turn on him and throw him under the bus. Hoyt Feb 2016 #33
I'm Not Sure What That Even Means... WillyT Feb 2016 #34
This message was self-deleted by its author Corruption Inc Feb 2016 #36
Kick !!! WillyT Feb 2016 #37

Gregorian

(23,867 posts)
12. I have no problem with that part. I'm curious about the exchange, if there is one.
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 06:29 PM
Feb 2016

It's no doubt something very important to John Lewis, and I can trust that. But then again, it might also be like 2008 when I believe he was for Clinton before supporting Obama. Go figure.

jhart3333

(332 posts)
16. Go where? That money and power make for strange bedfellows?
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 07:32 PM
Feb 2016

Next you're going to tell me that everyone does it. But I have a fine counterexample for you: Bernie.

thereismore

(13,326 posts)
9. “What does it profit a great nation to conquer the world, only to lose its soul?”
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 06:05 PM
Feb 2016

Let me modify it for you, Rep. Lewis: “What does it profit a great man to achieve the heights of power, only to lose his soul?”

Broward

(1,976 posts)
11. If you were to swap the policy positions and actions of Hillary and Bernie
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 06:08 PM
Feb 2016

over the years, do you think there's any chance that most of those now endorsing Hillary would be for Bernie? There are clearly other factors at play here.

 

Feeling the Bern

(3,839 posts)
18. The wind changed direction.
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 07:48 PM
Feb 2016

Black people today apparently don't mean as much as black people in 1996. 20 years of that God awful welfare reform shit has changed the landscape.

 

Jitter65

(3,089 posts)
21. Yes he did and Bernie voted FOR it! So what is the point you are making?
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 07:56 PM
Feb 2016

That a single issue should be the dividing point on something as big as the Presidential election?

Skid Rogue

(711 posts)
26. UGH!
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 08:19 PM
Feb 2016

A lot of good people held their nose and voted for that one. Those were strange days indeed.

Skid Rogue

(711 posts)
24. Yeah, that was bad. Most Democrats opposed it.
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 08:13 PM
Feb 2016

I watched Hillary unveil the statue of Eleanor Roosevelt in Riverside Park, NYC. Somebody had strung up a huge banner between apartment windows that said, "Eleanor would have saved Welfare."

It was hotly debated, at the time. I don't even think the Clintons liked it very much.

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
27. Interesting quote.
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 08:19 PM
Feb 2016
“What does it profit a great nation to conquer the world, only to lose its soul?”


LiberalArkie

(19,802 posts)
28. I personally believe that you could take Jesus Christ right off the mountain give him an easy job
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 08:22 PM
Feb 2016

paying a million or more a year, preaching the same things. And in short order some of his activism would change to just board meetings and the occasion tv show when some big protest happened.

I still say that they thing in Missouri (Michael Brown) have been going on for years, where were the big activists before that.
In New York City the killing of non-whites have been going on forever, where have all the activists been.
Pick any state, they seem to only show up when the cameras are there, not when poor people are being gunned down.


To Add: I think I know of only 1 public figure that has been out protesting for the poor when there were no network cameras present.

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
29. and that's the most dispiriting part of all of this: not just that they're backing policies they
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 08:35 PM
Feb 2016

rightfully and righteously damned, but that their status as civil-rights lions is MUTILATED, turned into a campaigning tool, a way for party enforces to bludgeon anyone who might bring up the issues supposedly at hand

SleeplessinSoCal

(10,412 posts)
31. What do you mean "Clintons"?
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 08:43 PM
Feb 2016

She is not he. And there is no way to compare what is going on now to a POTUS elected with less than 50% of the popular vote - thanks to Ross Perot.

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