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Segami

(14,923 posts)
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 09:23 PM Feb 2016

Bernie Sanders WINS Nevada Latinos, Study Shows



PRESS RELEASE


Sanders Wins Nevada Latinos, Study Shows



FEBRUARY 22, 2016


LAS VEGAS – Bernie Sanders won the Latino vote in Nevada, according to an analysis released on Monday by the widely-respected William C. Velasquez Institute.

The institute’s detailed analysis was conducted after Hillary Clinton’s campaign disputed entrance poll numbers by discounting the impact of high turnout by younger Latino voters in Saturday’s Nevada precinct caucuses.

“We note that some analysts have said that Secretary Clinton’s victories in heavily Latino precincts proved that she won the Latino vote. However the methodology of using heavily Latino or ‘barrio’ precincts to represent Latino voting behavior has been considered ineffective and discarded for more than 30 years due to non-barrio residential patterns common among Latino voters since the 1980’s,” said Antonio González, the president of the non-partisan organization whose purpose is to conduct research aimed at improving the level of political and economic participation in Latino and other communities.

“Simply put there is no relevant statistical inconsistency between Edison’s Entry Poll results for Latinos, Whites, and Blacks and the overall election results. Based on this fact WCVI concludes that there is no statistical basis to question the Latino vote breakdown between Secretary Clinton and Sen. Sanders.”

“It is not surprising that we received the support of the Latino community in Nevada, especially since the majority of those that turned out were young Latinos,” said Erika Andiola, a Sanders spokeswoman. “We have consistently seen that the under-35 age group overwhelmingly supports Sen. Sanders, regardless of race, ethnicity or gender. It’s also important to remember that young Latinos live all across Nevada and not just in Clark County.”

According to the Census Bureau, the Latino population in Nevada is 10 years younger than the national average.

“For months, as Sen. Sanders has traveled across the country, we have seen that the more people get to know him and learn about his consistency and what he stands for, the more people support him. This was certainly the case in Nevada as well where we saw a huge shift in support after he started spending time in the state and staff and volunteers mobilized to amplify his message,” Andiola said.




https://berniesanders.com/press-release/sanders-wins-nevada-latinos-study-shows/




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Bernie Sanders WINS Nevada Latinos, Study Shows (Original Post) Segami Feb 2016 OP
KnR !! Why do Hillary peeps keep saying otherwise? nt 99th_Monkey Feb 2016 #1
Trying to dampen Latino enthusiasm for Bernie in further states. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Feb 2016 #3
Ya think? nt 99th_Monkey Feb 2016 #4
And all of it was so totally unnecessary. All of it! Major Hogwash Feb 2016 #30
how else can they scream that Sanders supporters are lilywhite sexists who'd just as well MisterP Feb 2016 #16
+10 nt 99th_Monkey Feb 2016 #17
Because lying is second nature to them. Betty Karlson Feb 2016 #35
The Progressive Caucus really worked it for Bernie!! Raul Grijalva is a head of jillan Feb 2016 #2
How terrible that the Sanders campaign doesn't get to Progressive dog Feb 2016 #5
Hey, can we borrow your dog Segami Feb 2016 #7
Why don't we use him to sniff out all Progressive dog Feb 2016 #10
Is he trained to sniff? Segami Feb 2016 #11
He's a quick learner Progressive dog Feb 2016 #12
Well perhaps you could send your dog to Iowa, even the newspaper that endorsed Hillary thought Uncle Joe Feb 2016 #14
I know, that damn Democratic party makes Progressive dog Feb 2016 #43
Why is it so complex to release the vote totals in 2016 when they were able to do it 2008? Uncle Joe Feb 2016 #45
I didn't know Nevada was in Iowa Progressive dog Feb 2016 #46
We were talking about Iowa after I posted the Des Moines Register Editorial and you answered back Uncle Joe Feb 2016 #47
Do they come in any other colors Spirochete Feb 2016 #22
Blue is the color used by the news media Progressive dog Feb 2016 #37
And still managed to lose by 5.5%... HillDawg Feb 2016 #6
It might have something to do with being a caucus state. Gregorian Feb 2016 #8
Exactly. nt thereismore Feb 2016 #15
A link to the study would be nice. The Sanders link is a dead end. Persondem Feb 2016 #9
A link, did you say? Here ya go ---> Petrushka Feb 2016 #21
Thank you for the link. I was hoping for the exact demographic breakdown of the original sample Persondem Feb 2016 #24
That sort of information might be available on their website. Petrushka Feb 2016 #26
Yeah, add up the represented voters. joshcryer Feb 2016 #28
The numbers are all over the place and don't make any sense for Sanders Number23 Feb 2016 #32
BOOM! Latinos are are indeed listening to Bernie's unity politics. w4rma Feb 2016 #13
Debunked days ago Tarc Feb 2016 #18
The article you linked was debunked. jhart3333 Feb 2016 #20
"From the OP", Mr. 143-posts? Tarc Feb 2016 #27
That many? Well, I've been hard at it. jhart3333 Feb 2016 #29
Two clicks showed me he's been here since 2011 Goblinmonger Feb 2016 #39
No other ways, thanks Tarc Feb 2016 #40
Not "concerned" at all Goblinmonger Feb 2016 #41
"Concern" noted Tarc Feb 2016 #42
OK. You're a one trick pony. Goblinmonger Feb 2016 #44
Is Clark County the only county in Nevada? Petrushka Feb 2016 #23
HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!! WillyT Feb 2016 #19
K & R Petrushka Feb 2016 #25
ABC News: "Hispanics younger than 45 voted 70-27 percent for Sanders over Clinton in Nevada". AtomicKitten Feb 2016 #31
I am guessing they don't really like their abuela. nt artislife Feb 2016 #36
No, he didn't...nt SidDithers Feb 2016 #33
Yes, he did by 53% to 45% advantage Bernie; 70% to 27% advantage Bernie Hispanics under 45. AtomicKitten Feb 2016 #34
Not true.. Hillary won all demographics..n/t asuhornets Feb 2016 #38

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
3. Trying to dampen Latino enthusiasm for Bernie in further states.
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 09:32 PM
Feb 2016

And to cling desperately to the meme that only white people can possibly like Bernie.

Major Hogwash

(17,656 posts)
30. And all of it was so totally unnecessary. All of it!
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 02:09 AM
Feb 2016

The caucus was completely over before the big brouhaha broke out on Twitter over what she said, so it was totally unnecessary.
All it did was hurt a lot of feelings and cause more division within our party.
That's all it did, nothing more.

It was totally useless garbage!



MisterP

(23,730 posts)
16. how else can they scream that Sanders supporters are lilywhite sexists who'd just as well
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 11:29 PM
Feb 2016

vote for Trump?

reality is their enemy, and they've proudly declared as much

 

Betty Karlson

(7,231 posts)
35. Because lying is second nature to them.
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 05:32 AM
Feb 2016

Coming up next: "We have leopards in our bedrooms, and Hillary's mother was the queen of Quebec."

jillan

(39,451 posts)
2. The Progressive Caucus really worked it for Bernie!! Raul Grijalva is a head of
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 09:31 PM
Feb 2016

the Progressive Caucus & a Bernie supporter.

 

Segami

(14,923 posts)
7. Hey, can we borrow your dog
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 09:46 PM
Feb 2016

to go look for Hillary's Goldman Sachs transcripts?........

Progressive dog

(7,602 posts)
10. Why don't we use him to sniff out all
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 09:54 PM
Feb 2016

those missing Bernie votes? He doesn't mind being asked to do the impossible.

Uncle Joe

(65,134 posts)
14. Well perhaps you could send your dog to Iowa, even the newspaper that endorsed Hillary thought
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 10:06 PM
Feb 2016

that process stunk and the votes total should've been released.



Editorial: Something smells in the Democratic Party

Once again the world is laughing at Iowa. Late-night comedians and social media mavens are having a field day with jokes about missing caucusgoers and coin flips.

That’s fine. We can take ribbing over our quirky process. But what we can’t stomach is even the whiff of impropriety or error.

What happened Monday night at the Democratic caucuses was a debacle, period. Democracy, particularly at the local party level, can be slow, messy and obscure. But the refusal to undergo scrutiny or allow for an appeal reeks of autocracy.

The Iowa Democratic Party must act quickly to assure the accuracy of the caucus results, beyond a shadow of a doubt.

First of all, the results were too close not to do a complete audit of results. Two-tenths of 1 percent separated Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton. A caucus should not be confused with an election, but it’s worth noting that much larger margins trigger automatic recounts in other states.





http://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/opinion/editorials/caucus/2016/02/03/editorial-something-smells-democratic-party/79777580/

Progressive dog

(7,602 posts)
43. I know, that damn Democratic party makes
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 10:02 PM
Feb 2016

the world laugh at Iowa. But I think they laugh at Iowa because of editorials like that one. The lack of data to do a recount on might be why they don't do a recount.
The only way to satisfy some of the most obnoxious Bernie supporters would be to hold the caucuses over and over until Bernie won. I'm probably too optimistic in that analysis, it actually would probably take a unanimous vote to satisfy them.


Uncle Joe

(65,134 posts)
45. Why is it so complex to release the vote totals in 2016 when they were able to do it 2008?
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 10:24 PM
Feb 2016


Obama 93,952 38%

Edwards 74,377 30%

Clinton 73,663 29%

Richardson 5,278 2%

Biden 2,328 1%

Uncommitted 345 0%

Dodd 58 0%

Gravel 0 0%

Kucinich 0 0%


http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primaries/results/state/#IA

Uncle Joe

(65,134 posts)
47. We were talking about Iowa after I posted the Des Moines Register Editorial and you answered back
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 10:50 PM
Feb 2016

with this.



I know, that damn Democratic party makes the world laugh at Iowa. But I think they laugh at Iowa because of editorials like that one. The lack of data to do a recount on might be why they don't do a recount.
The only way to satisfy some of the most obnoxious Bernie supporters would be to hold the caucuses over and over until Bernie won. I'm probably too optimistic in that analysis, it actually would probably take a unanimous vote to satisfy them.



I then posted the vote totals for the 2008 Democratic Primary in Iowa and as you have no answer to that, you want to talk about Nevada.

P.S. The Des Moines Register endorsed Hillary prior to the caucus.

Progressive dog

(7,602 posts)
37. Blue is the color used by the news media
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 09:47 PM
Feb 2016

to represent Democrats, so I am proud to call blue my favorite political color.

Petrushka

(3,709 posts)
21. A link, did you say? Here ya go --->
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 12:07 AM
Feb 2016
http://myemail.constantcontact.com/Who-Won-the-Nevada-Latino-Vote-.html?soid=1114208817960&aid=TUzlNNKZYHc

Edited to add:
I found that link on the William C. Velasquez Institute's Facebook page, which I found by doing a Bing search. Bing is also your friend.

Persondem

(2,101 posts)
24. Thank you for the link. I was hoping for the exact demographic breakdown of the original sample
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 12:11 AM
Feb 2016

The sample was less than 1000 voters. Not sure how any outside agency can assume the entrance poll was ok without the demographics.

Petrushka

(3,709 posts)
26. That sort of information might be available on their website.
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 12:18 AM
Feb 2016

I gave their website a quick once-over and imagine someone else discovering there's plenty enough information there to keep one busy for days . . . but, tsk! . . . I didn't bother to save the link. I'm sure you can find it easily enough.



joshcryer

(62,536 posts)
28. Yeah, add up the represented voters.
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 01:31 AM
Feb 2016

Comes up to 85%.

Add up Clinton voters, comes to 50%.

Add up Sanders voters, comes up to 33%.

Sanders did not lose the electorate by freaking 17%.

The Entry Poll was bunk and I don't see how they can conclude it was "statistically consistent with the margin of victory."

Antonio Gonzalez supports Sanders, it's bad that they're playing this tack. It changes focus toward AA voters which could very well take resources away from Latino voters.

Number23

(24,544 posts)
32. The numbers are all over the place and don't make any sense for Sanders
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 04:33 AM
Feb 2016

An ABC article says that young Hispanics went for Sanders by over 40 percentage points but that those over 45 went for Clinton by MORE than 2 to 1. http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/inside-nevada-entrance-poll-hillary-clinton-bernie-sanders/story?id=37114648

Either hardly any young Hispanics voted or the the number of those who were over 45 must have absolutely dwarfed those under 45. Because otherwise, his fairly substantive loss there makes no sense whatsoever. There's no way his 54-point loss among black voters there explains everything.

Edit: But having said that, the ABC article is based on entrance polls which typically are full of it.

 

w4rma

(31,700 posts)
13. BOOM! Latinos are are indeed listening to Bernie's unity politics.
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 09:59 PM
Feb 2016

No Clintonite wedge/identity politics for Latinos!

jhart3333

(332 posts)
20. The article you linked was debunked.
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 11:51 PM
Feb 2016

From the OP(right up at the top there if you care to read it):

<snip>

using heavily Latino or ‘barrio’ precincts to represent Latino voting behavior has been considered ineffective and discarded for more than 30 years due to non-barrio residential patterns common among Latino voters since the 1980’s

</snip>
 

Goblinmonger

(22,340 posts)
39. Two clicks showed me he's been here since 2011
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 09:51 PM
Feb 2016

Any other way you want to dismiss him? Do I have enough posts for you?

 

Goblinmonger

(22,340 posts)
41. Not "concerned" at all
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 09:55 PM
Feb 2016

Just seems kind of rude to bag on someone here since 2011 by making people think they are a sock or zombie for someone else because their account is new judged only by post count.

Though, that seems to be the tactic of how some candidates think they win voters.

 

AtomicKitten

(46,585 posts)
34. Yes, he did by 53% to 45% advantage Bernie; 70% to 27% advantage Bernie Hispanics under 45.
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 05:20 AM
Feb 2016
William C. Velásquez Institute

For Immediate Release More Info: 323-332-6160
Statement by WCVI President Antonio Gonzalez:

Who Won the Nevada Latino Vote?
Latinos Reached a Record Share of Nevada Democratic Caucuses

(Los Angeles, Feb 22)After hearing about disputes between the Sanders and Clinton over the Edison Entry Poll Survey results on the Latino vote in the Feb 20 Primary Caucuses WCVI undertook a review of the publicly disclosed data.

WCVI concludes that the survey results are statistically consistent with the margin of victory of Hillary Clinton on Feb 20.The main dispute among pundits and between campaigns has been the assertion that it is statistically impossible for Hillary Clinton to narrowly lose the Latino vote (45% to 53% with Latinos representing 19% of the voters) and narrowly lose Whites (47% to 49% with Whites representing 59% of the voters) and still win the election by 5.3%.

However WCVI concludes the Clinton margin of victory is adequately explained by the large margin of victory Secretary Clinton won among African American voters (77% to 23% with AA's representing 13% of the voters).

Simply put there is no relevant statistical inconsistency between Edison's Entry Poll results for Latinos, Whites, and Blacks and the overall election results. Based on this fact WCVI concludes that there is no statistical basis to question the Latino vote breakdown between Secretary Clinton and Senator Sanders.

We note that some analysts have said that Secretary Clinton's victories in heavily Latino precincts proved that she won the Latino vote. However the methodology of using heavily Latino or "barrio" precincts to represent Latino voting behavior has been considered ineffective and discarded for more than 30 years due to non-barrio residential patterns been common among Latino voters since the 1980's.

Lost is this controversy is the fact that the data shows a record high Latino vote share in the Democratic Caucuses with Latinos representing 19% of the vote compared to 13% in 2008.

WCVI is a non-profit, non-partisan Latino public policy and research organization founded in 1985 with offices in Los Angeles and San Antonio.
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