Judge threatens subpoena against Clinton over emails

[NWCorona]

The drip, drip continues.

"A federal judge warned Tuesday that he may have to subpoena former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s entire secret email account, saying he has real questions about whether the Obama administration gave her special treatment."

And then there's this.

"And the judge said he is “inclined” to issue a subpoena eventually, forcing the department to go back to Mrs. Clinton and demand she turn over the entire clintonemail.com system she and top aide Huma Abedin used during their time in the department. "
-That means even her personal emails!


http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/feb/23/judge-threatens-subpoena-against-clinton-emails/

[revbones]

1. Just enough warning time for a scrub

Why not just issue the subpoena rather than say "Hey, I'm inclined to do this, so make sure those emails stay safe until I make up my mind..."

[Kelvin Mace]

3. Well, if the server is scrubbed

that's "Obstruction of Justice". It wasn't the actual crimes that killed Nixon, it was the cover up.

[dana_b]

7. will they be able to tell?

I'm ignorant when it comes to IT so sorry of that seems like a stupid question.

[NWCorona]

11. The FBI has the servers so they'll know

[dana_b]

20. ah - gotcha

well then I hope that this judge doesn't let his past relationship with the Clintons get in the way of his decision.

[NWCorona]

25. It doesn't seem like it at all!

[Kelvin Mace]

18. Yep,

When they ask for the data and the drive has no data, its kind of obvious. Also, I believe there are already court orders to preserve all data, so that would be contempt of court as well.

[NWCorona]

10. That would be a major mistake as the FBI has all two or three

Servers and if Clinton were to withhold or alter the emails it would come out.

[Paper Roses]

2. Go Judge, sooner than later, please. n/t

[JudyM]

30. ^^^^this^^^^

The public deserves a cleaner nomination race.

[demwing]

4. And why it's critical to push Bernie across the primary finish line

Clinton could go down at any time. Who needs that risk when there's a President Trump or Cruz in the waiting room?

[dana_b]

8. the Repubs will absolutley

push, push and try to crush her on this issue.

[Nuclear Unicorn]

19. And not just the presidency. It will effect the entire ballot.

[Beacool]

39. He's not going to be the nominee.

To the chagrin of many here.

[Ferd Berfel]

5. The Reich will wait until it's too late to fix this

Should a tragedy occur, and she is able to weasel the nomination,

The Reich will have her on the line in court Congress the House WHILE she is trying to run for President.

How's that going to work out?

[NurseJackie]

6. Not gonna happen. (It's just recycling, not alchemy.)

[cali]

12. Bwahahaha.Drip, drip, drip

Denial and Hillary supporters go together like Lloyd Blankfein and Hillary Rodham Clinton.

[NWCorona]

13. I think it might as precedent is against Hillary on this.

[jkbRN]

9. Ugh

I really hope this ends.

If this is still going on in the GE & if she's the nominee, trump will absolutely obliterate her--she won't get the independent vote (she already struggles with that) and I'm afraid we will lose the WH.

[jeff47]

28. Clinton has ensured it will not end any time soon.

Her handling of this mistake has been abysmal.

[SDJay]

14. Serious Question...

I don't know how likely this is nor is it the point of this post, but what if HRC is indicted for this during the GE assuming she's the nominee? Does the party ask her to step down or remove her from the ticket regardless of whether or not it's voluntary? Can they even do that? If she does step down or she's removed somehow, does SBS take her place on the ticket or would the party get together and just pick someone?

I'm really not familiar with how any of this works. Let's hope this disaster doesn't unfold in reality, as the consequences would be unfathomable.

[Nuclear Unicorn]

24. There is a deadline for candidates to be offered for the GE.

If something significant breaks after that time the political chips will fall where they may.

Even if she carried the election to victory as soon as the Chief Justice of the USSC swore her in the GOP will wait for him to clear the podium and then start impeachment proceedings, which could be done in the absence of criminal proceedings.

[jeff47]

29. There's a reason the "October Surprise" exists.

(Though most October Surprises take place in September - that extra month makes them more effective)

If this blows up at the "right" time, there is nothing the party can do.

So if Clinton is the nominee, you can expect a leaked FBI recommendation for indictment by the end of September. It's a two-fer: destroy the Democrats in the election while also tarnishing Obama's legacy.

[grasswire]

15. Republicans will want this to delay until after nomination or election.

It would be their wet dream to have President Clinton under threat of indictment.

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

16. Quoting the right wing moonie paper now?

[NWCorona]

17. It's on other sites now so have a look.

[Arazi]

21. This is a fucking time bomb

and it's not going away



It's not just some right wing conspiracy either

[zappaman]

23. "It's not just some right wing conspiracy either"

No, it looks like many on the left have bought into it as well.

[zappaman]

22. Ok. n/t

[mercuryblues]

26. I hope

the judge serves the DoJ the subpoenas, that is where Clintons servers are. IOW she has already turned everything over.

Oh. wait. this is from the MOONIEFUCKINGTIMES.

[TubbersUK]

27. Washington Post also has it now

A federal judge on Tuesday ruled that State Department officials and top aides to Hillary Clinton should be questioned under oath about whether they intentionally thwarted federal open records laws by using or allowing the use of a private email server throughout Clinton’s tenure as secretary of state from 2009 to 2013.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/us-judge-weighs-deeper-probe-into-clintons-private-email-system/2016/02/23/9c27412a-d997-11e5-81ae-7491b9b9e7df_story.html

[6chars]

31. This does not indicate any suspiscion of Hillary

A federal judge on Tuesday ruled that State Department officials and top aides to Hillary Clinton should be questioned.

[TheLogicalSong]

32. We can expect 4-8 years of this kind of thing.

Once again, the business of the American people will take a backseat to a Clinton administration's legal troubles.

[NWCorona]

33. John Kerry is on record saying that he had to cannibalize other agencies

for resources to deal with Hillary's mess.

[PonyUp]

35. Exactly. n/t

[dana_b]

42. that's what I was saying on the LBN thread

that people were sick of it in the 90s and to start this up all over again???

Nope - we need someone else (eh hem...) or else the Repubs will win.

[wyldwolf]

34. Reagan appointee and notable cases

Sullivan presided over a number of habeas corpus petitions submitted on behalf of Guantanamo captives.

Sullivan presided over Senator Ted Stevens' trial where his indictment was dismissed when a Justice Department probe found evidence of gross prosecutorial misconduct.

Sullivan is presiding over a case, Judicial Watch v. IRS, where there is an ongoing investigation into the 2013 IRS controversy, specifically attempting to determine where the "lost" emails of former IRS employee Lois Lerner went, and what damage to her computer hard drive occurred, and what steps have been taken to recover the information contained in the emails and on the hard drive.

[6chars]

36. Not sure he was a Reagan appointee

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emmet_G._Sullivan

Judge of the United States District Court for the District of Columbia
Incumbent
Assumed office
June 16, 1994
Appointed by Bill Clinton
Preceded by Louis F. Oberdorfer
Personal details
Born 1947 (age 68–69)
Washington, D.C.
Alma mater Howard University B.A.
Howard University School of Law J.D.
Profession Judge

[Arazi]

37. Sullivan was appointed by Bill Clinton

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emmet_G._Sullivan

[Beacool]

38. Washington Times?

This primary season has become beyond tiresome.

[Arazi]

40. And the Washington Post and ABC News and...(pick your favorite outlet)

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/us-judge-weighs-deeper-probe-into-clintons-private-email-system/2016/02/23/9c27412a-d997-11e5-81ae-7491b9b9e7df_story.html

http://www.abc17news.com/news/politics/judge-inches-toward-subpoenas-in-clinton-email-server-case/38148442

[NWCorona]

41. And CNN

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/02/23/politics/hillary-clinton-emails-subpoena/index.html

This story is taking off faster than I thought it would.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

43. Poor Hillary. The baggage car is overflowing again.

[Juicy_Bellows]

44. I don't get why some insist this is pure hokum.

This is a potential show stopper, it needs to be addressed one way or the other - waiting until after the primary is a bad, bad move.