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[SidDithers]

1. ...

Sid

[NurseJackie]

9. I don't like it. His style of speaking doesn't appeal to me at all.

(But whenever he smiles, that's nice to see. Not the "say-cheese!" photo smile... when he does that it looks a bit stiff and forced. I'm talking about his natural smile before/during a laugh.)

Go, Hillary! We love you!

[Android3.14]

38. What does Hillary think of free tuition, universal healthcare and $15/hour?

[Plucketeer]

45. HOLY CRAP!

If it were THIS or WATERBOARDING, I'd HOLLER: "BRING ON THE BUCKETS AND TOWELS!!!

[greiner3]

88. Perhaps you prefer the shouting of Trump

Or the whatever you call Carson's style or the lies of Clinton Oh wait

[bkkyosemite]

102. Go Bernie We Love the Way You Speak and Smile

[snowy owl]

115. You prefer canned responses over thoughtful ones?

Pausing is a sign of thinking. Hillary is so practiced-rehearsed it hurts. And that's quite a job considering how often her comments evolve. She sounds a lot like Bernie these days. Except she shouts where he talks.

[JonLeibowitz]

33. What a disgusting comment you have put on display for all of us to see and judge.

We thank you.

[workinclasszero]

76. lol

These worship posts are great eh sid?

[CoffeeCat]

80. Ah yes, the peanut gallery is on the scene

lobbing grenades in a pro-Bernie thread where Sanders supporters are simply expressing a bit of admiration for their candidate.

Please--lecture me again--about the importance of Democrats who must unify around a single candidate to fight Trump--as you mock us.

[dr60omg]

84. The pea-NUT gallery is on the scene agreed it is ludicrous

Precisely I wonder what would happen if a Sanders person went and made a comment on a Clinton board?
Care to guess? I am sorry that Clintonites feel compelled to engage in this sort of taunting and bullying ... But, thinking before you speak is the hallmark of someone who collects their thoughts and responds rather than reacts. Reaction-ary thinking is not the best form of judgement. So, I continue to admire Sanders and am more certain that I am standing behind the best candidate.

[Fawke Em]

118. But if the OP had posted something about Clinton's ongoing investigation, you'd then

accuse him/her of not singing about the merits of his/her own candidate. I literally just saw that very thing about 30 minutes ago.

Can't have it both ways.

[workinclasszero]

119. Clinton's ongoing investigation is a republican fishing op

Hillary stared the slimy bastards down at the very beginning of the primaries.

They got nothing but lies and innuendo.

[Orsino]

2. I duuno. I guess we can see what we want in his tics.

I think his words themselves show courage and benevolence.

[Merryland]

3. I was very moved

by his discussion of religion/spirituality. So simple, so elegant. Do unto others.

[A Simple Game]

37. Yes so much better than the

"do for me so I don't have to do onto you" I imagine another candidate thinking.

But that's probably just me being in a cynical mood this morning.

[dr60omg]

83. EXACTLY

I have never thought religion ought be part of government anyway. I think this we tend to forget about the wall of separation which is why I find his answer so wonderful

[jillan]

4. Our president does that too.

[Orange Butterfly]

6. Yes, Obama does it too... a great trait!

[firebrand80]

5. If by "dropping into his heart and spirit" you mean

"thinking about what he wants to say," then yes, I would agree that is a good thing.

[Orange Butterfly]

8. It goes beyond 'thinking'...

It a quality of someone that is listening for a response, as it were.

[firebrand80]

12. He has that in common with Ted Cruz nt

[Matt_in_STL]

30. I'd rather have that in common with a Republican

Than being beholden to financial and corporate interests.

[LovingA2andMI]

43. So Are you Calling....

A President Candidate running for the DEMOCRATIC POTUS Nomination and who have for the last 25 Years Plus, Caucused with the DEMOCRATS in Congress, A Republican?

Please, detail....

[Plucketeer]

47. I'll detail it for you

That's NOT what Matt is intimating, and I suspect you know that. Of course, there IS the odd chance his meaning went Right over your head.

[LovingA2andMI]

49. Did you read....

WHO I was responding too? Also, who is Matt?

Over In The Upper Right Hand Corner -- It States RESPONSE TO...#FYI....

[Orange Butterfly]

52. Right! So funny

thanks for noticing

[Plucketeer]

53. Sorry!

My response was indeed mis-aimed.

[LovingA2andMI]

59. No Problem!!

[AlbertCat]

51. Please, detail....

Seems succinctly clear to me?

What could you possibly not get about his post?

[LovingA2andMI]

58. It's Clear...

Reading Comprehension works too, just to let you know .

[SidDithers]

55. A Democratic candidate being called a Republican at DU?...

Why, that never happens.

Sid

[LovingA2andMI]

62. Never....

One should never say never when some are trying and FAILING to throw a Independent Senator who has Caucus with the Democrats in Congress for over 25 years -- and is running as a POTUS Candidate as a Democrat -- under the bus.

Or are they really throwing themselves under the bus, when one RIGHTLY thinks about it....

[SidDithers]

66. ...

Sid

[LovingA2andMI]

71. Meme Nation....

Can make it impossible to understand the concept of Reading Comprehension -- but to each, his or her own.

[wildeyed]

98. Why do you capitalize

Reading Comprehension and then accuse people of not understanding the language?

[LovingA2andMI]

99. Is that the best you can do....

Ask yourself that question as we have no time to answer it. #FYI

[wildeyed]

101. I dunno.

Use Reading Comprehension and figure it out. #googletranslate

[LovingA2andMI]

104. This Actually is A USELESS Back and Forth..

And the CAPS ON USELESS was very intentional. DU makes a methodology to deal with USELESS banter.

[wildeyed]

105. You are the expert on USELESS,

apparently, so I will take your word on that.

[Orange Butterfly]

72. sidDithers...your posts are inappropriate for this thread

Please remove your posts from this thread.
This is a thread speaking to an honorable trait of a national leader.

[zappaman]

92. Welcome to DU!

[FSogol]

93. What is a SID?

[rbrnmw]

96. sid

[NastyRiffraff]

100. OMG that is funny!

"Please remove your posts from this thread," says Orange Butterfly!

Everyone not a Sanders worshiper supporter get outta here!

Note to jury: I was merely quoting O.B. not attacking him/her, and seeing a little (well a lot) of humor.

[yardwork]

108. Hey comrade, you have to win the election before enforcing the New Order.

[wildeyed]

113. This post....

OMG. So amazing. I want this particular post to LIVE FOREVER.

[HillareeeHillaraah]

7. Yeah and...

..notice how he inhales...and then exhales? God! What a visionary ! Oh, FFS...

[Orange Butterfly]

10. This is NOT a Hillary put down...

I have not watched Hillary enough to notice this for her.

These leaders at this level do, have qualities that can be admired.

[NurseJackie]

15. Ha!! :-D (Perfect!)

[JimDandy]

48. So fresh and yet...

Welcome to DU.

[AlbertCat]

56. ..notice how he inhales...and then exhales?

I did notice that he did it without Goldman Sachs' permission.

[farleftlib]

73. .

[demwing]

77. buh bye little one

[one_voice]

87. Yeah, there's one upthread you might..

want to get too.

[workinclasszero]

81. Stop

you are killin me over here!

[olddots]

120. oh pithy very pithy

[Skwmom]

11. It also demonstrates that he thinks before he speaks. That is why he has been able to handle

hardball interviews. Clinton on the other hand.....

[dickthegrouch]

18. My elementary school headmaster

Used to say "Think before you speak........ and then don't speak."

Excellent advice in some circumstances, but it's taken me a lifetime to learn when to speak up.

[Plucketeer]

50. You bet!

It seems more genuine than an immediate reflex of babble - a pre-programmed response that handlers have stored into their robot.

[Skwmom]

95. Clinton is SO rehearsed.

[firebrand80]

13. He derives sustenance from the vegetation of the very Earth

in which he seeks to heal.

[SidDithers]

14. Hehe...

Sid

[Orange Butterfly]

17. what is SID?

[cyberswede]

20. Don't pay him any attention.

He's being a meanie.

[Orange Butterfly]

21. acknowledged, yet does SID mean?

[cyberswede]

28. It's his username

I believe taken from a SCTV character.

[Orange Butterfly]

16. I agree, Bernie & other leaders are embodied and grounded...

Great leaders have to be connected on all levels to withstand the force of the collective as they do.

[A Simple Game]

40. Wow, very insightful of you to realize along with Bernie, the best reason to heal the earth.

Without the earth we are nothing; we better learn to heal it and soon. Good for you to notice and point out one of Bernie's better points.

Together we can survive.

[NuclearDem]

19. You know who else paused before they spoke?

Jesus.

[bigtree]

22. .

[SammyWinstonJack]

60. Yeah, a real laugh riot, isn't it.

[Orange Butterfly]

23. When did you SEE or HEAR Jesus speak?

[NuclearDem]

26. Every time Bernie speaks!

[firebrand80]

24. I was gonna go with MLK nt

[Orange Butterfly]

25. Yes, MLK paused before speaking

[JTFrog]

27. .

[NurseJackie]

31. oopf! :-P

[MichaelSoE]

121. Another person

who



paused while they spoke



was




Captain Kirk.




We must all




learn




to live




together.





Beam me up, Bernie!

[Punkingal]

29. It shows he is not canned and rehearsed...unlike some other candidates.

[NuclearDem]

32. Clearly.

Some of those sneaky Hillary supporters might say that pausing before one speaks might be indicative of trying to remember one's next line, but no, they're wrong.

[Orange Butterfly]

36. Exactly, I would venture to say any great leader....

...spiritual leaders are classic examples.

I am not saying Bernie is a spiritual leader, no.

I am saying he has a quality like spiritual leaders and other great leaders.

[fun n serious]

91. But what if...

What if we are watching the second coming!

[one_voice]

90. .

[MADem]

94. Mister Gorbachev (pause) .... Tear Down This Wall!!!

Sometimes, it's an old actor's device.


Other times, it's a young politician's device:

All free men, (pause) wherever they may live, (pause) are citizens of Berlin.

And, therefore, (pause) as a free man, (pause) I take pride in the words -- (pause)

"Ich bin ein Berliner."

[yardwork]

106. I understand that the direct translation references a pastry.

I do not know if this is true or not.

[MADem]

110. Mmmmmm.....donuts! Jelly donuts!!!

A Berliner Pfannkuchen (Berliner for short) is a traditional German pastry similar to a doughnut with no central hole, made from sweet yeast dough fried in fat or oil, with a marmalade or jam filling and usually icing, powdered sugar or conventional sugar on top. They are sometimes made with chocolate, champagne, custard, mocha, or advocaat filling, or with no filling at all.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berliner_(doughnut)

[mythology]

124. And yet everything goes right back to his campaign speech

For example at the debate after the Paris attacks where spent one sentence on Paris before going to his standard speech or on Hardball Thursday where he had no answer to hard questions about how he intends to achieve his goals other than vague comments about using the bully pulpit ignoring questions about how to use the bully pulpit against elected Republicans considering Republican voters want no compromise.

[madokie]

34. Bernie is a good man with a heart and head full of goodness

and sometimes it might take a moment to bring that up to the forefront. Is my thought anyway

I like the way he answers the question asked to the n'th degree, unlike other politicians,

GO BERNIE. #FEEL THE BERN

[jalan48]

35. I agree. Bernie's lifelong work on behalf of the underdogs comes through when he speaks.

[Nuclear Unicorn]

39. Closing one's mouth from time to time is the best means for keeping your foot out of it.

[blm]

41. He's always done this - and I've been listening to him for 3 decades at this point.

He reaches inside - the older I get the more I appreciate it.

[Helen Borg]

42. Yup. Hillary, on the other hand...

Knows immediately what the other person would want to hear and says just that.

[Orange Butterfly]

46. Immediate responses can be directly from the mind

And yes, something that is rehearsed, planned.

I am NOT bashing Hillary. She has been answering questions for umteen years...

Immediate response can be from the mind and from emotion. It is reactivity verses reaching inside on a deeper level.

[Chico Man]

44. He also says the same thing over and over again

I can finish his sentences for him now.

[Fearless]

54. Better steady than opposite like Hillary.

[Plucketeer]

61. So can I

Thing is, in spite of our super-tuned little community here at DU, there's STILL a lot of folks who haven't heard those things. THAT'S why he repeats them time and again. It's not a matter of drubbing the faithful over and over - it's getting the message - the goals - out to fresh ears and brains.

[senz]

64. That's because he's trying to counter decades of propaganda.

He talks about things tptb don't want us to hear.

[Orange Butterfly]

65. only those that follow closely know this

He is speaking a message to a national stage. He has to say it over and over again.

I put up a Bernie sign in my yard and my neighbor wanted to know who he was! You see, people are not paying attention. When they do, his message needs to be the same.

Yet, the pausing before speaking is when the question is not the same ones.

[AgingAmerican]

69. Those pesky core convictions

How dare he actually believe what he is saying!

[retrowire]

57. Most of Hillary's responses immediately start

and the words are normally, "Well, I..." Always quick to speak. Not very quick to think.

[jcgoldie]

70. yeah right

Hillary Clinton never thinks before she speaks... tell that to the Congressional panel that grilled her for hours only to leave with their tails between their legs looking like asses.

[WillyT]

63. Yep... K & R !!!

[jcgoldie]

67. Come on really?

Bernie Sanders is an admirable guy. He's a solid candidate for president. There are a lot of good reasons to vote for him.... but this is teenage girl stuff. Ohhhh Elvis!

[yellowcanine]

68. Meh. Scraping the bottom of the barrel for meaning from a speaking trait.

Who knows what causes it - hard to say. Could be some kind of technique he has adopted to avoid stuttering for example. What he says is what is important, not how he starts to say it.

[farleftlib]

74. Talk about

scraping the bottom of the barrel.

[yellowcanine]

85. Actually no.

http://www.wikihow.com/Stop-Stuttering


Visualize the words you're going to say before you say them. This is hard to master, but it really helps. If you can imagine words, you claim them and it'll be harder for them to slip into a stutter. If you cannot imagine it, they can't be yours. Have a clear mental picture of what you want to say.
If you are stumbling over a particular word, try using a word that has a similar meaning— a synonym. This word might be easier to use and one that you won't slip over.
Try to spell a word out if you stumble over it. You might have to pronounce it very slowly and letter by letter, but at least you'll get the satisfaction of knowing that you pronounced it.
Don't be afraid to pause as you visualize or spell out the letters in the word. We're trained to think of silences as frightening; you have to train yourself to think of the silences as opportunities to ace it.

[SunSeeker]

75. No, a "pregnant pause" is a rhetorical device, designed to create drama.

Ted Cruz does the same thing. A lot. I find it annoying.

[watoos]

78. Yes, Bernie sometimes pauses before he answers

but Hillary rattles the answer right off.

I think maybe that's because Bernie doesn't know the questions ahead of time.

[Oilwellian]

89. Kinda like she did here and it didn't go well for her

vimeo.com/155927022

[elleng]

79. He's THINKING, imagine THAT!

[blackspade]

82. It also is a sign of someone that thinks before they talks.

[Laughing Mirror]

86. It is a good practice to take up, pausing

Pause before you speak. Pause between sentences. Listen when others talk. Pause before you respond.

You can speak clearly only from a clear mind. Not from one jumbled up with thoughts impatient to get spit out.

[bvar22]

97. Pausing before responding is the sign of an intelligent person.

It means they are considering what the other person has said before responding with a knee jerk.
It also means they are respectful.

[Orange Butterfly]

111. Deep bow, my friend

[wildeyed]

103. Or could be the characteristic

of someone breathing air. Which IS better than not breathing air.

[rbrnmw]

107. YEP

[yardwork]

109. Can't argue with that. Bernie breathes air! That's good.

[72DejaVu]

112. Never really gave that much thought

But, you know, I think you're right.

I'm going to vote for William Shatner!

[workinclasszero]

114. buhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!11!!!!11!!!!1

I'm going to vote for William Shatner!

Stop it your killing me!!

[fun n serious]

116. I adore Shatner! Excellent pick. nt

[Fawke Em]

117. It's also a sign of intelligence.

Thinking before one speaks is trait I wish more people shared - especially Trump.

[bvar22]

123. Pausing and thinking before responding is a trait I wish more DUers shared.

There are examples in this thread.
...poor impulse control.

[PonyUp]

122. knr. n/t