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Segami

(14,923 posts)
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 01:54 PM Feb 2016

Hillary Clinton: "Vet Me, Hold Me Accountable,..I WANT THAT,..I Actually Request It"

BET News Special: The Candidates Talk Black
Hillary Clinton interviewed by Jeff Johnson
Feb. 21, 2016

“…People don’t trust our government,..people don’t trust our politics,…they don’t trust our economy,…practically every institution has fallen in trust by the american people and in a democracy like ours, truth is the glue that holds it all together. I am trying to present a path forward that is going to give people a chance to vet me, hold me accountable,..I want that,..I actually request it…”

http://www.bet.com/video/news/politics/2016/candidates-talk-black-hillary-clinton-bernie-sanders-full-show.html

Hillary Clinton told her BET interviewer Jeff Johnson that her path forward will give people a chance to “vet” her, hold her “accountable” and that she “wants that” and that she “actually requests it.” Well, the people do want to vet you Hillary by holding you accountable and are quite excited that you want the same, in fact, you actually requested it…..so,..

In the spirit of you requesting that we “vet” you and “hold you accountable”……THE PEOPLE WANT YOU TO RELEASE YOUR SPEECH TRANSCRIPTS because, as you clearly stated, “..people don’t trust our politics……and in a democracy like ours, truth is the glue that holds it all together…”

Do you believe in your own statement and if so, when will you release your transcripts?



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Hillary Clinton: "Vet Me, Hold Me Accountable,..I WANT THAT,..I Actually Request It" (Original Post) Segami Feb 2016 OP
My first thought too. Release the transcripts. GoneFishin Feb 2016 #1
+1 jwirr Feb 2016 #68
She is hiding what she actually says in emails and speeches. Way to be vetted, Hillary. JudyM Feb 2016 #2
MSNBC Mika Brysinski, "Print Reporters Have Transcripts... " CorporatistNation Feb 2016 #55
OK HILLARY. ENOUGH DOUBLE-SPEAK. RELEASE THE TRANSCRIPTS. n/t Avalux Feb 2016 #3
Yes, Hillary, release the transcripts and for goddess sake - truedelphi Feb 2016 #79
I don't think anyone questions the fact that she is the most vetted person... NCTraveler Feb 2016 #4
nothing to see here...move right along...we know what's best for you... nashville_brook Feb 2016 #15
Can I check over behind that curtain JackInGreen Feb 2016 #48
I mean.. FrostyAusty Feb 2016 #5
Welcome to DU.... Segami Feb 2016 #16
the release the transcripts Duckhunter935 Feb 2016 #6
So typical HRC. What she says doesn't fit with what she means. Jackilope Feb 2016 #7
Or what she does - release 840high Feb 2016 #43
Oh the insanity! farleftlib Feb 2016 #8
Cool. Release your speech transcripts. Matariki Feb 2016 #9
I'll hold her accountable VulgarPoet Feb 2016 #10
Resign, unfortunately malthaussen Feb 2016 #66
I know. I've already looked. VulgarPoet Feb 2016 #84
Yet another proof ... earthside Feb 2016 #11
HRC:"You're asking me to say I have never, I don't believe I ever have. I don't believe I ever will" nc4bo Feb 2016 #12
Then she will dodge every question. libtodeath Feb 2016 #13
release the transcripts and we'll vet the hell out of them. nashville_brook Feb 2016 #14
No, you don't, if you are not releasing the Goldman-Sachs transcripts. n/t Orsino Feb 2016 #17
Obama said the same thing, didn't he? vi5 Feb 2016 #18
yessiree he did shanti Feb 2016 #34
Obama has done right well considering AlbertCat Feb 2016 #49
RELEASE THE TRANSCRIPTS! Vinca Feb 2016 #19
I'm marking mine "Return to Sender". Simple pleasures. PWPippin Feb 2016 #61
No one except those that hate her care about transcripts MaggieD Feb 2016 #20
No cigar farleftlib Feb 2016 #25
I've been to one of her paid speeches MaggieD Feb 2016 #27
What was her percentage of the total vote for most admired? Beowulf Feb 2016 #73
More than anyone else, 20 times MaggieD Feb 2016 #74
That's not what I asked. Beowulf Feb 2016 #76
Google them then - I'm not your research department MaggieD Feb 2016 #77
I did. See post #75 Beowulf Feb 2016 #81
It's not meaningless - it makes her a sought after speaker MaggieD Feb 2016 #83
I'll give you a hint. Beowulf Feb 2016 #75
ix-nay on the inton-Clay igar-cay Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2016 #92
Or those interested in, you know, ethics LondonReign2 Feb 2016 #33
well you aren't going to get the votes of those who hate her anyway so what's the harm? timmymoff Feb 2016 #39
No one hates her... (except every conservative in the country) AlbertCat Feb 2016 #50
Talk is cheap. Release the transcripts. nt Waiting For Everyman Feb 2016 #21
Well, talk is cheap when she's talking to us peons anyway. n/t arcane1 Feb 2016 #63
Good point! nt Waiting For Everyman Feb 2016 #65
Here's a GS Speech by her - enjoy! MaggieD Feb 2016 #22
That's a classic Hillary move => deception Jarqui Feb 2016 #29
Good catch dana_b Feb 2016 #42
Vet me. Hold Me accountable. I request it SheenaR Feb 2016 #23
Oh come on... everybody knows this is just campaign propaganda MaggieD Feb 2016 #28
Oh look. Welcome back. morningfog Feb 2016 #35
Unless you're a BLM activist, in which case John Poet Feb 2016 #88
Nope. That's a big can of Buyer's Remorse waiting to happen. nt Zorra Feb 2016 #24
.... fork over those speeches. nt ladjf Feb 2016 #26
"Hold me accountable AFTER you hold ALL GOP candidates accountable" <-- the jest of it. nt 99th_Monkey Feb 2016 #30
Please release them, let them go... n/t PonyUp Feb 2016 #31
LOL! Segami Feb 2016 #36
Another lie. The last thing she really wants is to be completely vetted. panader0 Feb 2016 #32
Her campaign song azmom Feb 2016 #37
She'll look into it. GuardianOne Feb 2016 #38
fine, can we ask about Tuff on Crime, incentives to fill prisons, the death penalty, keeping MisterP Feb 2016 #40
Be careful what you wish for, Hillary... gregcrawford Feb 2016 #41
RELEASE THE TRANSCRIPTS THEN IF YOU ARE NOT LYING fbc Feb 2016 #44
Beat me, Bite me, MAke me write bad checks... Ferd Berfel Feb 2016 #45
Great Hillary, I would like to take part in vetting, wouldsman Feb 2016 #46
While I do not SandersDem Feb 2016 #47
Really? Release the God Damned transcripts then already. Tell the complete truth about the email. onecaliberal Feb 2016 #51
Bluffing on a pair of 2's. Jester Messiah Feb 2016 #52
Straight from the Karl Rove manual... modestybl Feb 2016 #53
Only a fool would unilaterally disarm in a hot war. PeteSelman Feb 2016 #54
Exactly. Nonhlanhla Feb 2016 #60
That's assuming there is something bad in the transcripts, which is the whole point. arcane1 Feb 2016 #67
I think it'll be construed as bad no matter what it says. PeteSelman Feb 2016 #82
I really think she believed nobody would ever dare to. CharlotteVale Feb 2016 #56
You actually take her for her word spoken yesterday? thereismore Feb 2016 #57
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2016 #58
More lies. Faking confidence doesn't work anymore, Clinton. Bush ruined that for all. arcane1 Feb 2016 #59
I'm reminded of... WiffenPoof Feb 2016 #62
There is a difference between vetting and Nonhlanhla Feb 2016 #64
"Vet me" -- just don't ask anything I don't like pdsimdars Feb 2016 #69
No, no... she's presenting a path forward... Ino Feb 2016 #70
You can vet Hillary as soon as everyone else gets vetted /nt demwing Feb 2016 #71
We would love to do that, Hillary... virgdem Feb 2016 #72
$20 million in paid speeches, cashing in on her public service Dems to Win Feb 2016 #78
" ... give people a chance to vet me, hold me accountable,..I want that,..I actually request it…” Jopin Klobe Feb 2016 #80
She's appealing to the low info voters. Duppers Feb 2016 #85
Yeah, she wants to be vetted. Uh-huh. That's why she had that BLM protester thrown out Marr Feb 2016 #86
Must be "whites-only" vetting. John Poet Feb 2016 #89
RELEASE THE TRANSCRIPTS! Betty Karlson Feb 2016 #87
Your request is my command Fairgo Feb 2016 #90
Like, with a cloth? Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2016 #91
LOL n/t PonyUp Feb 2016 #94
We, Democrats in general, are not the ones she is speaking to... Matt_R Feb 2016 #93

JudyM

(29,785 posts)
2. She is hiding what she actually says in emails and speeches. Way to be vetted, Hillary.
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 01:57 PM
Feb 2016

If the subject of the speeches wasn't squarely one of the main topics of the primary, it'd be different.

truedelphi

(32,324 posts)
79. Yes, Hillary, release the transcripts and for goddess sake -
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 04:50 PM
Feb 2016

We have already heard the "I expect the American people to hold my feet to the fire" speech from Obama right before and during his appointments of Big Banking and Big Ag Gm interests to the government's top positions.

Now the American people have lost their economy to Big Banking, and there is Big Policing of us all. Much of that policing is to protect the Corporate interests.And our crop lands will forever be impacted by the horrid Gm seeds.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
4. I don't think anyone questions the fact that she is the most vetted person...
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 02:00 PM
Feb 2016

at this point in the primary in history.

FrostyAusty

(57 posts)
5. I mean..
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 02:03 PM
Feb 2016

She has never lied right? Like ever... ?

This shit just gets funnier and funnier each passing day, and I thank all the wonderful Bernie supporters on this site for continuing to HOLD HER ACCOUNTABLE while the MSM fails to do so.

 

Segami

(14,923 posts)
16. Welcome to DU....
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 02:19 PM
Feb 2016



But,...but,...these are her own words and demands...she wants to be VETTED and held ACCOUNTABLE.

Now that people are demanding 'sunlight' on her speech content, vetting and being held accountable seems to be non-applicable as to what the people want.

Unbelievable!


 

farleftlib

(2,125 posts)
8. Oh the insanity!
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 02:05 PM
Feb 2016

Release the transcripts already! Stop stonewalling.

Also, I'm very curious about the time Hillary went down to Wall St. to help us all out. When exactly was this? Where on Wall St.? Whom was the recipient of the demand "to cut it out"? What was their response? Who else was there? Is there a transcript?

VulgarPoet

(2,872 posts)
10. I'll hold her accountable
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 02:08 PM
Feb 2016

for supporting fracking.
For accepting money from the worst corporate enemy of the environment, Monsanto.
For supporting H1b visas that deny trained Americans STEM jobs.
For outsourcing blue-collar factory jobs to the third world to deny even MORE Americans jobs.
For supporting a minimum wage keeping a middle-class from regrowing, keeping people trapped in a cycle of poverty.
For fostering the destruction of Syria, Libya, and Iraq during her career, wasting thousands of American lives and ruining an entire generation of Middle Eastern children.
For accepting money from the banks who destroyed the economy and had to be bailed out.

I swore to defend the Constitution when I enlisted, but when I'm supposed to entertain the idea of having no faith in the Commander in Chief, I don't know what the fuck I'm supposed to do.

malthaussen

(18,626 posts)
66. Resign, unfortunately
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 04:21 PM
Feb 2016

If you cannot, in good conscience, carry out the duties with which you have been charged, you must resign. Or not re-enlist, if you are not an officer.

What you're supposed to do if you are enlisted and have a commitment to honor is a bit tougher, since you don't have the option to refuse unilaterally. Officially, you salute the position, and not the person holding it. Since lack of confidence does not, alas, equate to being in receipt of an unlawful order, you legally have no grounds to refuse. Ultimately, it then comes down to "shut up and soldier, soldier."

-- Mal

VulgarPoet

(2,872 posts)
84. I know. I've already looked.
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 08:45 PM
Feb 2016

And yeah, Enlisted. While the possibility of saluting the position if she holds it still galls me; but nowhere near as much as actually saluting her. "Shut up and color" has been the mantra for the past four years of my life, I'm just trying to keep it from getting any worse.

earthside

(6,960 posts)
11. Yet another proof ...
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 02:12 PM
Feb 2016

... that Hillary will say anything if she thinks it will help her politically at that moment.

I'll bet her eyes widen to at least the size of dinner plates when she made the "Vet me, hold me accountable,..I want that ... I actually request it" remarks.

(I would have watched the video but I don't have time to watch five ads in a row every three minutes.)

Just like her being against the TPP ... this is simply not believable.

And here at DU, her supporters certainly don't believe it because they cry foul every time someone posts evidence of her scandals and her flip-flopping on issue after issue.


Obama at the video link castigating Hillary's 'say anything' behavior.

nc4bo

(17,651 posts)
12. HRC:"You're asking me to say I have never, I don't believe I ever have. I don't believe I ever will"
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 02:14 PM
Feb 2016
L.I.E.
 

vi5

(13,305 posts)
18. Obama said the same thing, didn't he?
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 02:29 PM
Feb 2016

Then his minions told us to shut the hell up when we tried to?

And thus we find ourselves in the Supreme Court shit show we are in today, aided, abetted, and enabled by 7 years of attempted compromise and reaching across the aisle and lots of "my friends on the other side of the aisle" bullshit.

If the rest of my fellow Democrats want to go down this road again they are more than welcome to, but count me out. I know what's at stake now. It's the same stuff that's been at stake and will continue to be at stake every election from here on out. It's never ending and there's no winning for the rest of us, only the wealthy and the elites as long as we continue to pull from the same dynastic pool and 3rd way, post-DLC triangulation.

 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
49. Obama has done right well considering
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 04:04 PM
Feb 2016

He sure was milquetoast for the 1st couple of years.... and not that forceful after.

If Hillary is elected it will be 4 more years (not 8 hopefully) of more of the same. Or actually I think WORSE! She is not as good a politician as Obama...which was proven in the primary... she lost.

Vinca

(54,321 posts)
19. RELEASE THE TRANSCRIPTS!
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 02:32 PM
Feb 2016

Until I'm able to fully vet you, that Hillary Clinton fundraising letter I got in this morning's mail stays in the bin for recycling.

 

farleftlib

(2,125 posts)
25. No cigar
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 02:39 PM
Feb 2016

Sorry. She claims she wants to rein in Wall St. but she took millions from them for "speeches." Nobody's BS is worth all that money, and she isn't that articulate. If you want to run for POTUS at a time when the banks are being bailed out by our money, I want to see what they're being promised. Put up or pull out.

 

MaggieD

(7,393 posts)
27. I've been to one of her paid speeches
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 02:53 PM
Feb 2016

The event sold out quickly once she was named the headliner. Money went to a good cause. And she is a fascinating speaker. You guys need to remember, she was voted the most admired woman in the world 20x. She's a big draw, and people want to hear her speak. Just because you guys hate her doesn't change that.

Beowulf

(761 posts)
81. I did. See post #75
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 05:09 PM
Feb 2016

But I want you to state it. Of course you won't because it would nullify your talking point. If you're going to boast that she's the most admired woman for 20 consecutive years then also give us her winning percentage. For 2015 it was 13%. Second place was 5%. It's a meaningless poll.

LondonReign2

(5,213 posts)
33. Or those interested in, you know, ethics
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 03:09 PM
Feb 2016

But if you don't care if your candidate has integrity or ethics, then yeah, you don't care so much about them.

 

timmymoff

(1,947 posts)
39. well you aren't going to get the votes of those who hate her anyway so what's the harm?
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 03:44 PM
Feb 2016
 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
50. No one hates her... (except every conservative in the country)
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 04:06 PM
Feb 2016

.... they just think she'd make a lousy president.

Jarqui

(10,924 posts)
29. That's a classic Hillary move => deception
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 03:00 PM
Feb 2016

Last edited Wed Feb 24, 2016, 03:46 PM - Edit history (1)

That is not one of her paid speeches. That speech was made on September 23, 2014 at the Clinton Global Initiative



http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511162372

SheenaR

(2,052 posts)
23. Vet me. Hold Me accountable. I request it
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 02:36 PM
Feb 2016

I request accountability on why she cannot tell the truth to anyone at any time

I request she understand WHY she is being singled out











Note: Fully realize this is not the multimedia section. Rather than copying and pasting every exact quote, these videos do better justice than I can.
 

MaggieD

(7,393 posts)
28. Oh come on... everybody knows this is just campaign propaganda
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 02:55 PM
Feb 2016

Edited videos, or claiming she is lying simply because you don't agree with her. A difference on policy opinion is not a lie.

 

John Poet

(2,510 posts)
88. Unless you're a BLM activist, in which case
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 04:33 AM
Feb 2016

you'll be booed and hissed at by my white supporters, and then escorted out of the event you paid $500 to attend.

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
30. "Hold me accountable AFTER you hold ALL GOP candidates accountable" <-- the jest of it. nt
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 03:06 PM
Feb 2016

panader0

(25,816 posts)
32. Another lie. The last thing she really wants is to be completely vetted.
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 03:08 PM
Feb 2016

Her shenanigans go 'way back...

 

GuardianOne

(27 posts)
38. She'll look into it.
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 03:43 PM
Feb 2016
Do you believe in your own statement and if so, when will you release your transcripts?



After they're redacted to kingdom come. That's when she'll do it.

Anyone that doesn't like it, they're predators and need to be under her heel.

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
40. fine, can we ask about Tuff on Crime, incentives to fill prisons, the death penalty, keeping
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 03:44 PM
Feb 2016

marijuana illegal, constant dogwhistles to the most lilywhite call-the-cops-and-say-the-Black-kid-has-a-gun suburban types, kicking out BLM, deportations, walls, coups, wars, backtracking on abortion, gay-marriage condemnation as late as 2013?

 

fbc

(1,668 posts)
44. RELEASE THE TRANSCRIPTS THEN IF YOU ARE NOT LYING
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 03:47 PM
Feb 2016

spoiler: she's lying.

she doesn't want that, she's not actually requesting it.

wouldsman

(94 posts)
46. Great Hillary, I would like to take part in vetting,
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 03:51 PM
Feb 2016

I realize that you may be to busy to check in here at DU, but maybe one of your surrogates can answer for you? Two questions:
1. Are you actually opposed to TPP? because what I have heard you say is that you are opposed to the changes that you have seen in TPP. Could you talk about the specific changes in TPP that made you change your mind from it being the gold standard to something you can't support?

2. The coup that happened in Honduras under your watch- did Kissinger give you advice on how to handle that? How do you feel about a Democracy being overthrown and replaced by a military coup? Honduras is now the murder capital of the world. Journalists killed, gay rights activists killed, women raped and killed. Now in hindsight, seeing how bad this "regime change" went, do you wish you had raised a finger to stop it?

Thanks in advance for any and all serious substantive responses to my questions.

SandersDem

(592 posts)
47. While I do not
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 03:54 PM
Feb 2016

Buy into the majority of republican attacks, her donors, inconsistencies in policies and weak record was enough for me to feel the Bern.

We dot not need the Third Way

 

onecaliberal

(36,594 posts)
51. Really? Release the God Damned transcripts then already. Tell the complete truth about the email.
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 04:06 PM
Feb 2016
 

modestybl

(458 posts)
53. Straight from the Karl Rove manual...
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 04:12 PM
Feb 2016

...lie brazenly, and never admit you are wrong, "money in politics corrupts everyone except me..." and so on...

PeteSelman

(1,508 posts)
54. Only a fool would unilaterally disarm in a hot war.
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 04:13 PM
Feb 2016

I'm a Bernie supporter but I don't blame her for not putting the transcripts out without her opponents doing the same. Would you really let a dickhead like Cruz or a jerkoff like Rubio slime you on Wall Street stuff without having them release too?

It's stupid to do that.

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
67. That's assuming there is something bad in the transcripts, which is the whole point.
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 04:23 PM
Feb 2016

She'll do everything she can to avoid showing what she really thinks.

PeteSelman

(1,508 posts)
82. I think it'll be construed as bad no matter what it says.
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 05:42 PM
Feb 2016

Unless she's berating the Wall Street guys and telling them she coming for them, it won't matter what's in the scripts. She'll be ripped for it.

Response to Segami (Original post)

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
59. More lies. Faking confidence doesn't work anymore, Clinton. Bush ruined that for all.
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 04:16 PM
Feb 2016

Nonhlanhla

(2,074 posts)
64. There is a difference between vetting and
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 04:20 PM
Feb 2016

distortion, innuendos, attacks, etc.

Which is what we see a lot more of here than real vetting.

 

pdsimdars

(6,007 posts)
69. "Vet me" -- just don't ask anything I don't like
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 04:27 PM
Feb 2016

Or she'll accuse of picking on her with a different standard.
Only Bernie actually released his transcript as soon as you said you would if he did. He did and she STILL hasn't.
She is even conservative in that, she will say ANYTHING she thinks she should say at the time, but it has nothing to do with reality or truth.

And don't tell me I'm just tearing her down, if she would stop lying there would be no problem.

Ino

(3,366 posts)
70. No, no... she's presenting a path forward...
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 04:28 PM
Feb 2016
to the Presidency. And after that, you'll have a chance to vet her & hold her accountable for her actions from that point on (no going back!).

virgdem

(2,323 posts)
72. We would love to do that, Hillary...
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 04:30 PM
Feb 2016

but you'll just bob and weave as usual. Nothing to see here-same old song.

 

Dems to Win

(2,161 posts)
78. $20 million in paid speeches, cashing in on her public service
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 04:45 PM
Feb 2016

Greedy, sleazy, just like her husband.

I don't need to see the transcripts to know that I don't want the Clintons to return to the White House. My vetting is DONE, I've concluded she won't get my primary vote.

I trust Bernie Sanders and his campaign funded by $27 donations. He will work for the 99%.

Go Bernie Go!

Jopin Klobe

(779 posts)
80. " ... give people a chance to vet me, hold me accountable,..I want that,..I actually request it…”
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 04:59 PM
Feb 2016

When will you release your transcripts? ... When will you release your transcripts? ...
When will you release your transcripts? ... When will you release your transcripts? ...
When will you release your transcripts? ... When will you release your transcripts? ...

... Proceed, Madam Secretary ...

 

Marr

(20,317 posts)
86. Yeah, she wants to be vetted. Uh-huh. That's why she had that BLM protester thrown out
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 03:51 AM
Feb 2016

for asking her to explain her 'bring them to heel' quote.

 

Betty Karlson

(7,231 posts)
87. RELEASE THE TRANSCRIPTS!
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 03:55 AM
Feb 2016

You want it, you say? Put your paper trail where your mouth is.

Fairgo

(1,571 posts)
90. Your request is my command
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 08:19 AM
Feb 2016

and my command is, "Release the transcripts!"...and the Kraken. Don't forget the Kraken.

Matt_R

(456 posts)
93. We, Democrats in general, are not the ones she is speaking to...
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 10:11 AM
Feb 2016

I may be reading too much into the quote but I believe Hillary is talking to representatives that support her, the so called super delegates. When she is talking about holding her feet to the fire, I think she wants those that have pledged to support her, not anyone else.

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