2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumHillary Clinton: "Vet Me, Hold Me Accountable,..I WANT THAT,..I Actually Request It"
Hillary Clinton interviewed by Jeff Johnson
Feb. 21, 2016
People dont trust our government,..people dont trust our politics, they dont trust our economy, practically every institution has fallen in trust by the american people and in a democracy like ours, truth is the glue that holds it all together. I am trying to present a path forward that is going to give people a chance to vet me, hold me accountable,..I want that,..I actually request it
http://www.bet.com/video/news/politics/2016/candidates-talk-black-hillary-clinton-bernie-sanders-full-show.html
Hillary Clinton told her BET interviewer Jeff Johnson that her path forward will give people a chance to vet her, hold her accountable and that she wants that and that she actually requests it. Well, the people do want to vet you Hillary by holding you accountable and are quite excited that you want the same, in fact, you actually requested it ..so,..
In the spirit of you requesting that we vet you and hold you accountable THE PEOPLE WANT YOU TO RELEASE YOUR SPEECH TRANSCRIPTS because, as you clearly stated, ..people dont trust our politics and in a democracy like ours, truth is the glue that holds it all together
Do you believe in your own statement and if so, when will you release your transcripts?
GoneFishin
(5,217 posts)JudyM
(29,785 posts)If the subject of the speeches wasn't squarely one of the main topics of the primary, it'd be different.
CorporatistNation
(2,546 posts)Avalux
(35,015 posts)truedelphi
(32,324 posts)We have already heard the "I expect the American people to hold my feet to the fire" speech from Obama right before and during his appointments of Big Banking and Big Ag Gm interests to the government's top positions.
Now the American people have lost their economy to Big Banking, and there is Big Policing of us all. Much of that policing is to protect the Corporate interests.And our crop lands will forever be impacted by the horrid Gm seeds.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)at this point in the primary in history.
nashville_brook
(20,958 posts)JackInGreen
(2,975 posts)Before we're moved along?
FrostyAusty
(57 posts)She has never lied right? Like ever... ?
This shit just gets funnier and funnier each passing day, and I thank all the wonderful Bernie supporters on this site for continuing to HOLD HER ACCOUNTABLE while the MSM fails to do so.
Segami
(14,923 posts)But,...but,...these are her own words and demands...she wants to be VETTED and held ACCOUNTABLE.
Now that people are demanding 'sunlight' on her speech content, vetting and being held accountable seems to be non-applicable as to what the people want.
Unbelievable!
Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)So we can do that
Jackilope
(819 posts)840high
(17,196 posts)the transcripts.
farleftlib
(2,125 posts)Release the transcripts already! Stop stonewalling.
Also, I'm very curious about the time Hillary went down to Wall St. to help us all out.
When exactly was this? Where on Wall St.? Whom was the recipient of the demand "to cut it out"? What was their response? Who else was there? Is there a transcript?
Matariki
(18,775 posts)Talk is cheap.
VulgarPoet
(2,872 posts)for supporting fracking.
For accepting money from the worst corporate enemy of the environment, Monsanto.
For supporting H1b visas that deny trained Americans STEM jobs.
For outsourcing blue-collar factory jobs to the third world to deny even MORE Americans jobs.
For supporting a minimum wage keeping a middle-class from regrowing, keeping people trapped in a cycle of poverty.
For fostering the destruction of Syria, Libya, and Iraq during her career, wasting thousands of American lives and ruining an entire generation of Middle Eastern children.
For accepting money from the banks who destroyed the economy and had to be bailed out.
I swore to defend the Constitution when I enlisted, but when I'm supposed to entertain the idea of having no faith in the Commander in Chief, I don't know what the fuck I'm supposed to do.
malthaussen
(18,626 posts)If you cannot, in good conscience, carry out the duties with which you have been charged, you must resign. Or not re-enlist, if you are not an officer.
What you're supposed to do if you are enlisted and have a commitment to honor is a bit tougher, since you don't have the option to refuse unilaterally. Officially, you salute the position, and not the person holding it. Since lack of confidence does not, alas, equate to being in receipt of an unlawful order, you legally have no grounds to refuse. Ultimately, it then comes down to "shut up and soldier, soldier."
-- Mal
VulgarPoet
(2,872 posts)And yeah, Enlisted. While the possibility of saluting the position if she holds it still galls me; but nowhere near as much as actually saluting her. "Shut up and color" has been the mantra for the past four years of my life, I'm just trying to keep it from getting any worse.
earthside
(6,960 posts)... that Hillary will say anything if she thinks it will help her politically at that moment.
I'll bet her eyes widen to at least the size of dinner plates when she made the "Vet me, hold me accountable,..I want that ... I actually request it" remarks.
(I would have watched the video but I don't have time to watch five ads in a row every three minutes.)
Just like her being against the TPP ... this is simply not believable.
And here at DU, her supporters certainly don't believe it because they cry foul every time someone posts evidence of her scandals and her flip-flopping on issue after issue.
Obama at the video link castigating Hillary's 'say anything' behavior.
nc4bo
(17,651 posts)libtodeath
(2,892 posts)nashville_brook
(20,958 posts)Orsino
(37,428 posts)vi5
(13,305 posts)Then his minions told us to shut the hell up when we tried to?
And thus we find ourselves in the Supreme Court shit show we are in today, aided, abetted, and enabled by 7 years of attempted compromise and reaching across the aisle and lots of "my friends on the other side of the aisle" bullshit.
If the rest of my fellow Democrats want to go down this road again they are more than welcome to, but count me out. I know what's at stake now. It's the same stuff that's been at stake and will continue to be at stake every election from here on out. It's never ending and there's no winning for the rest of us, only the wealthy and the elites as long as we continue to pull from the same dynastic pool and 3rd way, post-DLC triangulation.
shanti
(21,805 posts)'hold his feet to the fire'....and all that.
AlbertCat
(17,505 posts)He sure was milquetoast for the 1st couple of years.... and not that forceful after.
If Hillary is elected it will be 4 more years (not 8 hopefully) of more of the same. Or actually I think WORSE! She is not as good a politician as Obama...which was proven in the primary... she lost.
Vinca
(54,321 posts)Until I'm able to fully vet you, that Hillary Clinton fundraising letter I got in this morning's mail stays in the bin for recycling.
PWPippin
(213 posts)MaggieD
(7,393 posts)farleftlib
(2,125 posts)Sorry. She claims she wants to rein in Wall St. but she took millions from them for "speeches." Nobody's BS is worth all that money, and she isn't that articulate. If you want to run for POTUS at a time when the banks are being bailed out by our money, I want to see what they're being promised. Put up or pull out.
MaggieD
(7,393 posts)The event sold out quickly once she was named the headliner. Money went to a good cause. And she is a fascinating speaker. You guys need to remember, she was voted the most admired woman in the world 20x. She's a big draw, and people want to hear her speak. Just because you guys hate her doesn't change that.
Beowulf
(761 posts)MaggieD
(7,393 posts)Beowulf
(761 posts)MaggieD
(7,393 posts)Beowulf
(761 posts)But I want you to state it. Of course you won't because it would nullify your talking point. If you're going to boast that she's the most admired woman for 20 consecutive years then also give us her winning percentage. For 2015 it was 13%. Second place was 5%. It's a meaningless poll.
MaggieD
(7,393 posts)Beowulf
(761 posts)She was not the most admired woman of 87% of those responding.
Nuclear Unicorn
(19,497 posts)LondonReign2
(5,213 posts)But if you don't care if your candidate has integrity or ethics, then yeah, you don't care so much about them.
timmymoff
(1,947 posts)AlbertCat
(17,505 posts).... they just think she'd make a lousy president.
Waiting For Everyman
(9,385 posts)arcane1
(38,613 posts)Waiting For Everyman
(9,385 posts)MaggieD
(7,393 posts)Jarqui
(10,924 posts)Last edited Wed Feb 24, 2016, 03:46 PM - Edit history (1)
That is not one of her paid speeches. That speech was made on September 23, 2014 at the Clinton Global Initiative

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511162372
dana_b
(11,546 posts)SheenaR
(2,052 posts)I request accountability on why she cannot tell the truth to anyone at any time
I request she understand WHY she is being singled out
Note: Fully realize this is not the multimedia section. Rather than copying and pasting every exact quote, these videos do better justice than I can.
MaggieD
(7,393 posts)Edited videos, or claiming she is lying simply because you don't agree with her. A difference on policy opinion is not a lie.
morningfog
(18,115 posts)John Poet
(2,510 posts)you'll be booed and hissed at by my white supporters, and then escorted out of the event you paid $500 to attend.
Zorra
(27,670 posts)ladjf
(17,320 posts)99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)PonyUp
(1,680 posts)
panader0
(25,816 posts)Her shenanigans go 'way back...
azmom
(5,208 posts)GuardianOne
(27 posts)Do you believe in your own statement and if so, when will you release your transcripts?
After they're redacted to kingdom come. That's when she'll do it.
Anyone that doesn't like it, they're predators and need to be under her heel.
MisterP
(23,730 posts)marijuana illegal, constant dogwhistles to the most lilywhite call-the-cops-and-say-the-Black-kid-has-a-gun suburban types, kicking out BLM, deportations, walls, coups, wars, backtracking on abortion, gay-marriage condemnation as late as 2013?
gregcrawford
(2,382 posts)... you just might get it.
fbc
(1,668 posts)spoiler: she's lying.
she doesn't want that, she's not actually requesting it.
Ferd Berfel
(3,687 posts)
wouldsman
(94 posts)I realize that you may be to busy to check in here at DU, but maybe one of your surrogates can answer for you? Two questions:
1. Are you actually opposed to TPP? because what I have heard you say is that you are opposed to the changes that you have seen in TPP. Could you talk about the specific changes in TPP that made you change your mind from it being the gold standard to something you can't support?
2. The coup that happened in Honduras under your watch- did Kissinger give you advice on how to handle that? How do you feel about a Democracy being overthrown and replaced by a military coup? Honduras is now the murder capital of the world. Journalists killed, gay rights activists killed, women raped and killed. Now in hindsight, seeing how bad this "regime change" went, do you wish you had raised a finger to stop it?
Thanks in advance for any and all serious substantive responses to my questions.
SandersDem
(592 posts)Buy into the majority of republican attacks, her donors, inconsistencies in policies and weak record was enough for me to feel the Bern.
We dot not need the Third Way
onecaliberal
(36,594 posts)Jester Messiah
(4,711 posts)I call.
modestybl
(458 posts)...lie brazenly, and never admit you are wrong, "money in politics corrupts everyone except me..." and so on...
PeteSelman
(1,508 posts)I'm a Bernie supporter but I don't blame her for not putting the transcripts out without her opponents doing the same. Would you really let a dickhead like Cruz or a jerkoff like Rubio slime you on Wall Street stuff without having them release too?
It's stupid to do that.
Nonhlanhla
(2,074 posts)Thank you.
arcane1
(38,613 posts)She'll do everything she can to avoid showing what she really thinks.
PeteSelman
(1,508 posts)Unless she's berating the Wall Street guys and telling them she coming for them, it won't matter what's in the scripts. She'll be ripped for it.
CharlotteVale
(2,717 posts)thereismore
(13,326 posts)Response to Segami (Original post)
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arcane1
(38,613 posts)WiffenPoof
(2,404 posts)Gary Hart telling the press to follow him...
Nonhlanhla
(2,074 posts)distortion, innuendos, attacks, etc.
Which is what we see a lot more of here than real vetting.
pdsimdars
(6,007 posts)Or she'll accuse of picking on her with a different standard.
Only Bernie actually released his transcript as soon as you said you would if he did. He did and she STILL hasn't.
She is even conservative in that, she will say ANYTHING she thinks she should say at the time, but it has nothing to do with reality or truth.
And don't tell me I'm just tearing her down, if she would stop lying there would be no problem.
Ino
(3,366 posts)demwing
(16,916 posts)virgdem
(2,323 posts)but you'll just bob and weave as usual. Nothing to see here-same old song.
Dems to Win
(2,161 posts)Greedy, sleazy, just like her husband.
I don't need to see the transcripts to know that I don't want the Clintons to return to the White House. My vetting is DONE, I've concluded she won't get my primary vote.
I trust Bernie Sanders and his campaign funded by $27 donations. He will work for the 99%.
Go Bernie Go!
Jopin Klobe
(779 posts)When will you release your transcripts? ... When will you release your transcripts? ...
When will you release your transcripts? ... When will you release your transcripts? ...
When will you release your transcripts? ... When will you release your transcripts? ...
... Proceed, Madam Secretary ...
Duppers
(28,476 posts)Marr
(20,317 posts)for asking her to explain her 'bring them to heel' quote.
John Poet
(2,510 posts)Betty Karlson
(7,231 posts)You want it, you say? Put your paper trail where your mouth is.
Fairgo
(1,571 posts)and my command is, "Release the transcripts!"...and the Kraken. Don't forget the Kraken.
Nuclear Unicorn
(19,497 posts)PonyUp
(1,680 posts)Matt_R
(456 posts)I may be reading too much into the quote but I believe Hillary is talking to representatives that support her, the so called super delegates. When she is talking about holding her feet to the fire, I think she wants those that have pledged to support her, not anyone else.