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Wed Feb 24, 2016, 03:44 PM

If you're nervous about a Hillary Clinton presidency, relax.

She'll never be POTUS.
ANY fool can see that Trump and Sanders are the IT candidates in this cycle. That's the fight that the US wants and it's the one we deserve.
Someone recently said that the crisis in the middle east is a battle for the soul of Islam. Our election this year will be a battle for the soul of American idealism IF the Democrats run Sanders. If they run Clinton then it will be clear that the soul has already departed. She will lose in a landslide against Donald Trump.
For that reason it is imperative that we get Sanders nominated. He is really our only shot at avoiding a Trump presidency and the inevitable international backlash associated with that.

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Reply If you're nervous about a Hillary Clinton presidency, relax. (Original post)
MrChuck Feb 2016 OP
still_one Feb 2016 #1
MrChuck Feb 2016 #4
DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2016 #16
still_one Feb 2016 #17
LexVegas Feb 2016 #2
Agnosticsherbet Feb 2016 #3
MrChuck Feb 2016 #5
Agnosticsherbet Feb 2016 #11
randome Feb 2016 #6
MrChuck Feb 2016 #9
randome Feb 2016 #12
pdsimdars Feb 2016 #7
Stallion Feb 2016 #13
SheenaR Feb 2016 #8
NorthCarolina Feb 2016 #10
Betty Karlson Feb 2016 #14
doc03 Feb 2016 #15
MrChuck Feb 2016 #21
MaggieD Feb 2016 #18
Matariki Feb 2016 #19
Nonhlanhla Feb 2016 #20
MrChuck Feb 2016 #22

Response to MrChuck (Original post)

Wed Feb 24, 2016, 03:48 PM

1. This constant denigrating of the candidates is bullshit. Whoever becomes the Democratic nominee I

Will vote for, and anyone who does not is neither a progressive or a Democrat

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Response to still_one (Reply #1)

Wed Feb 24, 2016, 03:51 PM

4. There is no such denigration

In my post above.
I'll vote for Clinton if she gets the nomination.
She's just going to lose in a gigantic fashion and if you can't see that you're out of your mind. She has negative favorability and downward momentum, no denying that.

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Response to MrChuck (Reply #4)

Wed Feb 24, 2016, 04:59 PM

16. Trump's negatives are even higher, Senor Chuck

She's just going to lose in a gigantic fashion and if you can't see that you're out of your mind. She has negative favorability and downward momentum, no denying that.




Trump's negatives are even higher, much higher, ergo:


At this point (two-week average through Jan. 27), 33% of Americans view Trump favorably and 60% unfavorably. It's that 60% unfavorable figure that I can focus on here. Putting his favorable and unfavorable ratings together yields a net favorable of -27 for Trump, far above the -10 for Clinton and for Bush, the next lowest among the major candidates.


http://www.gallup.com/opinion/polling-matters/188936/trump-negative-image.aspx


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Response to MrChuck (Reply #4)

Wed Feb 24, 2016, 05:10 PM

17. Chuck I was referring to both sides sniping each other on electibility

I also believe over 95% of us at DU will vote the for the Democratic nominee regardless who we supported in the primary

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Response to MrChuck (Original post)

Wed Feb 24, 2016, 03:49 PM

2. ....

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Response to MrChuck (Original post)

Wed Feb 24, 2016, 03:49 PM

3. I make it a habit never to follow the observational preferences of fools.

Neither Islam nor the "American Ideal" has a soul, so fighting a battle for an object that does not exist seems unwise to me.
If I want to see one of those object, I look at the bottom of my shoes. That is about the closest one can get, though it is spelled differently.

I am not nervous about a Clinton or Sanders Presidency. Either of those will do.

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Response to Agnosticsherbet (Reply #3)

Wed Feb 24, 2016, 03:52 PM

5. Thanks for your reply

Or, non reply actually.
Next.

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Response to MrChuck (Reply #5)

Wed Feb 24, 2016, 04:00 PM

11. Your the one that said "any fool can see." It would be better to say even the average voter can

see.

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Response to MrChuck (Original post)

Wed Feb 24, 2016, 03:53 PM

6. So only fools will vote her in, eh?

 

You wouldn't consider the possibility -however slight- that others hold a different opinion than you, would you?
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Treat your body like a machine. Your mind like a castle.[/center][/font][hr]

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Response to randome (Reply #6)

Wed Feb 24, 2016, 03:58 PM

9. I refuse to acknowledge that your comment

did not crawl directly out of your rectum.
I never said fools would vote her in. I said I would vote for her if she were nominated and that she would lose.
I am certainly aware that other people have different opinions than my own. To suggest otherwise is further evidence of your unprecedented abnormal physiology.
Namely, the ability to speak articulately, although nonsensically, from your posterior.

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Response to MrChuck (Reply #9)

Wed Feb 24, 2016, 04:02 PM

12. Well, the 'any fool can see that' was inartfully phrased, IMO.

 

One's leanings toward one candidate or the other is rather irrelevant since Clinton pretty much has the delegates lined up. Seems to me the 'better part of valor' is to work with what we have and push her further to the left.

But I suppose Super Tuesday will convince some -but not all- of that. One way or the other. Either Clinton consolidates her lead or Sanders breaks out. I'm good with either outcome.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Treat your body like a machine. Your mind like a castle.[/center][/font][hr]

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Response to MrChuck (Original post)

Wed Feb 24, 2016, 03:53 PM

7. Totally agree

 

All the polls and intelligent analysis says that Hillary would lose to Trump and Bernie will win and some polls have him with a huge win over Trump. As I said, Hillary loses to Trump.
You'd think those who really worried about making sure we have a Democratic President, you'd think they'd look at the facts and get behind Bernie.

Oh, I forgot . .. live long and prosper.

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Response to pdsimdars (Reply #7)

Wed Feb 24, 2016, 04:22 PM

13. Except they Don't say that-In fact, 18 out of last 20 Polls say Clinton Would Beat Trump

making your conclusions devoid of logic

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Response to MrChuck (Original post)

Wed Feb 24, 2016, 03:54 PM

8. K&R

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Response to MrChuck (Original post)

Wed Feb 24, 2016, 03:58 PM

10. "Nervous" at the prospect?

 

"Nauseous" at the prospect is closer to home for me.

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Response to MrChuck (Original post)

Wed Feb 24, 2016, 04:29 PM

14. That backlash... it will be massive.

 

It will shrink the USA to a second-tier power. Superpowers are a matter of consent, not bullying and blustering. Surely we have learned that lesson from the utterly failed Bush doctrine?

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Response to MrChuck (Original post)

Wed Feb 24, 2016, 04:49 PM

15. What makes you the guru of who is voting for who and who will

win anything? You know opinions are like assholes everyone has one.

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Response to doc03 (Reply #15)

Wed Feb 24, 2016, 08:00 PM

21. And now

This thread has one.
Thank you.

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Response to MrChuck (Original post)

Wed Feb 24, 2016, 05:15 PM

19. 100% Correct MrChuck

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Response to MrChuck (Original post)

Wed Feb 24, 2016, 05:40 PM

20. Oh, any FOOL can see the Trump and Bernie are the "IT" candidates, eh?

I'm glad I'm not a fool then.

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Response to Nonhlanhla (Reply #20)

Wed Feb 24, 2016, 08:02 PM

22. Clearly

I was mistaken.
Thank you for providing evidence to the contrary.

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