Hillary Clinton Criticized For 'Dismissive' Reaction To Black Lives Matter Protester - Mashable

[WillyT]

Hillary Clinton criticized for 'dismissive' reaction to Black Lives Matter protester
By Megan Specia - Mashable
2016-02-25 15:39:40 UTC


Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton speaks at an Alpha Kappa Alpha Sorority luncheon in West Columbia, S.C., Wednesday, Feb. 24, 2016. Image: AP / Gerald Herbert

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Democratic presidential hopeful Hillary Clinton was clearly caught off-guard during an event for campaign donors on Wednesday night when a Black Lives Matter protester demanded she answer for the justice policies of her husband's presidency.

"Do you want to hear the facts or do you just want to talk?" Clinton responded during the exchange, in a tone that has been criticized by some as dismissive.

At the event, held at a private home in Charleston, Black Lives Matter activist Ashley Williams quietly walked to the front of the crowd holding a sign that read: "We have to bring them to heel."

The encounter was caught on camera:

It took Clinton a moment to realize what was going on, but she stopped and read the sign saying, "I think we've got somebody saying something here."

The protester's sign was specifically making reference to a comment Clinton made in 1996 during a speech in Keene, New Hampshire. She said in order "to take back our streets from crime, gangs and drugs," police officials had to focus on what she called "super-predators."

"We have to bring them to heel," Clinton said at the time:

"I'm not a super-predator, Hillary Clinton," Williams said during the event on Wednesday. "Can you apologize to black people for mass incarceration?"

"We'll talk about it," said Clinton, attempting to speak over Williams, who demanded she weigh in on issue. "Can I talk and then maybe you can listen to what I say."

Eventually, it appeared Clinton had reached a tipping point.

"Do you want to hear the facts or do you just want to talk?" Clinton asked. "If you will give me a chance to talk... You know what, nobody has ever asked me before, and you are the first person to ask me. OK, back to the issues."

It was Clinton's final comment — "back to the issues" — that was the main cause for criticism on Thursday morning:

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More: http://mashable.com/2016/02/25/hillary-clinton-black-lives-matter-protesters/

[FreakinDJ]

1. That's going to leave a mark

[oasis]

2. Hillary: "If you give me a chance to talk"

That's about as dismissive as it gets in my book.

[Marr]

4. "Back to the issues..."

She basically said the protester's issue was not an issue. Her entire tone was condescending and dismissive. You can pretend not to see it all you like, but it only makes you look as dismissive as Hillary.

[oasis]

7. Someone dusts off a 20 year old edited video and presents it as an "issue".

Hillary was aware she needed to address the legitimate concerns of the people who paid to be there.

[Marr]

8. That 'bring them to heel' line isn't like being a Goldwater Girl. She was 47 years old. /nt

[oasis]

10. Video was 20 years old. Where was the outrage then?

Why is it a big deal now and not when she first announced she was running?

[Luminous Animal]

14. Thre was quite a bit of outrage from those who were fighting for racial

justice and prison and sentencing reform. The prediction was that an increase of 270,000 superpredators would be unleashed on the nation....HALF OF THEM BLACK.

DiIulio projected that by the year 2010 there approximately 270,000 more juvenile super-predators on the streets than there were in In My Black Crime Problem, and Ours, Professor DiIulio predicted that the black crime rate, both black-on-black and black-on-white, is increasing, so that as many as half of these juvenile super-predators could be young black

http://racism.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1491:cognitivewar&catid=139&Itemid=155&showall=&limitstart=3

As predicted by those who were paying attention, the advancement of the theory of superpredator would result in increased policing of black neighborhoods. incarceration, and a disgusting increase of trying children as adults.

More...

In this article from September of 1995, Dilulio contends that the crime rate will go down
if juveniles are sent to adult prisons.

In line with other conservative social researchers of his time (including Charles Murray
of The Bell Curve fame, he promotes the idea that Americans need to stand up for
themselves and get tough on crime.

Don’t give in, he says, to “defeatist dogma” that views crime as a result of “basic
structural features of society, problems like homelessness, social injustice, economic
inequalities and racism.”

“The large population of seven-to-10-year old boys now growing up fatherless, Godless
and jobless—and surrounded by deviant, delinquent, and criminal adults—will give rise
to a new and more vicious group of predatory street criminals than the nation has ever
known.”

The barely disguised racism inherent in the myth of the superpredator led to what is now
termed “disproportionate minority contact” in policing and incarcerating men of color and
juveniles in adult prisons, just as Dilulio had called for.

http://rjcenterberkeley.org/rachel-maddow-takes-on-the-myth-of-the-superpredator/

11. Teen superpredators.

What is it? In the early '90s, a handful of sociologists cherry-picked juvenile crime data and insisted the coming decade would unleash thousands of "super-predator" criminals. Most infamously, the Weekly Standard ran a 1995 cover story by the theory's main advocate, criminologist John DiIulio, ominously titled, "The Coming of the Superpredators."

Eventually the notion entered the mainstream lexicon and spread to everyone from Newt Gingrich to Bob Dole. DiIulio summed up the problem with racially charged language telling CBS in 1995 that "super-predators" were a group of kids who were “fatherless, godless, and jobless.” Though he denied allegations of racism, he would go on to say over half of these “superpredators” were young black males.

How popular was it? Exceedingly. The superpredator myth spread from right-wing to mainstream media and was used by politicians and pundits alike. It was key to passing harsh juvenile crime penalties in 45 states that overwhelmingly affected communities of color.

Like the "expert" who gave us the "crack baby" meme, the man behind this myth, John DiIulio, later admitted he was “entirely wrong” and joined a friend of the court brief in 2012 advocating against mandatory minimum laws his “super-predator” panic helped spawn. In both cases, the science was ultimately corrected but the devastating impact on African-American communities would be felt by tens of thousands for generations to come -- all based on racism-fueled media myths.

http://www.alternet.org/media/12-stupidest-racist-moral-panics-crack-babies-ferguson-effect

[oasis]

17. Thanks for the info. I'm relieved to know Hillary

didn't coin the term "super predators" as some here would like us to believe.

[Luminous Animal]

18. No, she didn't coin it but she had no problem using racist dog-whistle.

[magical thyme]

21. it has been one of many issues about Hillary since she first announced

It's only recently that she dropped the price to her private fundraisers to a point that a normal person was able to scrape up the money to attend one and raise her voice.

Hillary wasn't running for president 20 years ago, and we didn't have "prisons for profit" and a higher rate of incarceration of eventhe evil China 20 years ago.

Bill Clinton's bad legislation brought us to this point. Bill ran as a "twofer" and now Hillary is trying to run on his record and plans to seek advice from him. That makes it an issue.

[libtodeath]

9. How arrogant.

[oasis]

11. She or me?

[libtodeath]

13. You and you need to check your facts.

Williams said she and a colleague, whom she did not identify, contributed $500 to attend the Clinton event, which was held at a private residence and was attended by around 100 guests.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/clinton-black-lives-matter-south-carolina_us_56ce53b1e4b03260bf7580ca

It seems she did pay to have her legitimate concerns addressed.
Why would you assume she did not?

[oasis]

16. When you "pay" to listen to a concert violinist

you don't want folks in the audience interfering with the performance.

You're saying Williams paid $500 to convince Hillary that she (Williams)was not a super predator. No chance Williams wanted only to embarrass Hillary in a Breitbart type gotcha setup. No way.

[Fairgo]

28. I like the entertainment metaphor

The politician as performance artist - isolated in her aria, beheld at great distance through ones' opera glasses.

[libtodeath]

29. So what did Goldman pay to get?

[oasis]

32. Goldman?

[libtodeath]

33. Like you dont know

The banksters that paid her 100s of thousands,what legitimate concerns were they voicing?

[magical thyme]

20. Ashley paid to be there. are you suggesting mass incarceration of primary black men isn't a

legitimate concern?

[libtodeath]

34. I guess not.

[CorporatistNation]

36. Of Course The Candidate's Reaction Was As Described... THIS Was COMPLETELY Unexpected

Because of the demographic of the attendees... being a "fundraiser" and all....

[msongs]

3. how many people has hillary clinton "mass incarcerated" again? nt

[Vincardog]

6. More than any other nation on the planet. She was a vocal supporter of the policies.

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[magical thyme]

22. what's so horrific about this, that a lot of people miss, is that China has 4 times our population

but fewer people incarcerated than we have.

We are literally the world leader in incarceration.

[Vincardog]

24. China is is a civilized country.

[FlatBaroque]

5. And the Titandenberg inches along...

[Babel_17]

12. Standing at a remove, it looks like this affects her campaign because ...

it's developed a reputation for not putting all of its candidates issues and concerns behind her. When you less than artfully handle having a private server, and taking large speaking fees, etc., the media tends to notice any similar sounding new allegations.

Should have been able to hit this campaign season with nothing new that people can honestly question. The opportunity for that was mishandled, hence all the old issues from a long career in politics are going to find a slow moving target, if someone is inclined to throw them in your face.

A strong victory in South Carolina would serve as a great panacea to all of this. Failing to meet expectations, by a notable degree, will raise an awful lot of questions.

[senz]

15. She was equally dismissive with BLM members last August.

High-handed, oppositional, superior. She is no friend to AAs.

[magical thyme]

23. and that was in an agreed upon, private meeting

equally rude; equally entitled, equally arrogant.

She treats everybody like she's a litigation attorney and they're the suspect. That alone should have disqualified her as SOS/chief diplomat, and certainly as Pres.

[senz]

25. I think it's racism.

I don't see her treating white people that way.

[magical thyme]

26. probably. but I wouldn't be surprised if she was that way to anybody she perceived

as getting in her way.

[senz]

31. Or those she perceives as poor and powerless.

A glance at her friends reveals how much she values money and power in others.

Can't even begin to describe how glad I am that Bernie is not like that.

[Warren DeMontague]

19. Back to the issues, like blowing off marijuana legalization/throwing 10 billion more at the drug war

[Metric System]

27. Sanders supporters are acting so transparent.

[libtodeath]

35. Transparent is an ironic word from the Hillory camp.

[malokvale77]

30. So apparently, according to Hillary...

Bernie is wrong when he speaks of "mass incarceration" as an issue. Hmm, interesting.

It seems some donors issues don't rate as much as others.

Well WillyT, Bernie has been caring about my issues even though I have had no money to send him.

That changes today. I just received notice today on my full (first month was partial) SS benefits. Yay.

[WillyT]

37. Right On !!!

[malokvale77]

39. It only makes us stronger. nt

[senz]

38. Glad to hear

that life will be easier for you, malokvale77.

[malokvale77]

40. Thank you senz.

It's still poverty level, but I won't be working my ass off for it.

[John Poet]

41. KICK

"Now back to the (white contributors) issues"

[Drunken Irishman]

42. lmfao

Boy has the tune changed. Remember when BLM confronted Sanders back in the summer and DU lost their shit?

God you guys are so fucking hypocritical. Especially, you, WillyT.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1016129889

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251502231

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251505834

It's hilarious how you'll quickly hide behind the BLM movement when it suits your politics.

Alas...

[Agschmid]

44. 1-6 Leave.

[Drunken Irishman]

45. Thanks.

[delrem]

43. Oh it's ok, it's just Hillary. It isn't like it's Bernie.

[WillyT]

46. Morning Kick !!!