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from twitter, re: BLM (Original Post) magical thyme Feb 2016 OP
“Do you want to hear the facts or do you just want to talk?” arcane1 Feb 2016 #1
Exactly. cui bono Feb 2016 #2
Deep wallets. nt valerief Feb 2016 #21
My opinion is her support comes from theaocp Feb 2016 #22
I think you have a good point here; ms liberty Feb 2016 #23
That's a deft observation JackInGreen Feb 2016 #28
No. Her supporters like war. They hate Snowden. delrem Feb 2016 #33
i noticed that hc's supporters were the snowden haters too questionseverything Feb 2016 #44
I don't get it either CoffeeCat Feb 2016 #24
How Very Well Done! Excellent Contrast As To Who Cares More About The People... CorporatistNation Feb 2016 #14
Bernie is constantly talking about "us" ybbor Feb 2016 #27
He lived that era of protests in the 60s, relating to someone taking the mike to voice a concern! nt TheBlackAdder Feb 2016 #46
IMO, Team Hill set the ball for her with BLM all those months ago Hydra Feb 2016 #35
Where is the outrage? cui bono Feb 2016 #3
K&R liberal_at_heart Feb 2016 #4
Big r and k!! RiverLover Feb 2016 #5
Powerful. H2O Man Feb 2016 #6
i thought she treated the young lady shamefully. Punkingal Feb 2016 #7
and she was even worse with the BLM activists she agreed to meet with in private magical thyme Feb 2016 #8
Yup. And that was my issue at the time. RedCappedBandit Feb 2016 #9
...and Bernie was the first one to be targeted, so there wasn't any point of reference for him! TheBlackAdder Feb 2016 #47
And this has now grown legs nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #10
#whichHillary broke the Twitterverse. nt mariawr Feb 2016 #11
Yup, before I went to bed, way too late nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #13
K&R dchill Feb 2016 #12
K & R Dont call me Shirley Feb 2016 #15
There's the real difference between the two. n/t WHEN CRABS ROAR Feb 2016 #16
K & R! TIME TO PANIC Feb 2016 #17
I've thought little of her forever it seems stupidicus Feb 2016 #18
Her every action was dismissive and condescending. libtodeath Feb 2016 #19
The differences are glaring, indeed. Nyan Feb 2016 #20
Optics mean everything N/t PatrynXX Feb 2016 #25
"Now let's get back to the issues that I think are important" dragonfly301 Feb 2016 #26
And the issues are important. She was talking about the criminal justice system with people who Jitter65 Feb 2016 #30
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Feb 2016 #29
That twitter post is deceitful. And these were not the only time BLM faced HRC. Jitter65 Feb 2016 #31
Sorry, Hillary had everything set up for her with BLM Hydra Feb 2016 #36
Bernie lives by the Golden Rule. n/t LibDemAlways Feb 2016 #32
But "All lives matter" to Clinton. Once you've paid $500, you are free to go. nt thereismore Feb 2016 #34
Kick! That graphic needs to go viral. kath Feb 2016 #37
I have seen it a lot and doing my bit. nt mariawr Feb 2016 #40
It's a fact. pacalo Feb 2016 #38
Kick artislife Feb 2016 #39
Nice! Today we are harvesting many gold nuggets WhaTHellsgoingonhere Feb 2016 #41
I'll share this with them WhaTHellsgoingonhere Feb 2016 #42
An interesting quote FangedNoumenom Feb 2016 #43
Sorry, but gotta be a stickler for facts in this as in all things, Dark n Stormy Knight Feb 2016 #45
 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
1. “Do you want to hear the facts or do you just want to talk?”
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 06:31 PM
Feb 2016

"Can I talk? And maybe you can listen to what I say."

"Now let's get back to the issues that I think are important"

Everything her supporters said NOT to do in response to a BLM protest, she did. And she's praised for it.

Seriously, she could announce that she's always been a far-right conservative and she'd still keep 90% of her support.

Why?

Because her support doesn't come from actual policy positions.

theaocp

(4,232 posts)
22. My opinion is her support comes from
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 08:30 PM
Feb 2016

fear of republicans. The talking points always come back to keeping them AWAY from power, rather than what Clinton can do in the office. Fear is a powerful motivation.

ms liberty

(8,550 posts)
23. I think you have a good point here;
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 08:46 PM
Feb 2016

not the only factor, but a major factor definitely. Fear in many forms, as it is quite the useful tool as well.

delrem

(9,688 posts)
33. No. Her supporters like war. They hate Snowden.
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 09:46 PM
Feb 2016

They like expanded powers for the NSA.
They like deregulation of investment banking.

They do!
Every one of them back her on her promotion of war. In Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria, and all the nods and winks toward Iran -- and onward!
Every one of them. Else they wouldn't back her. Not in 2016, after the history of it.

Every one of them are on side with her total commitment to Goldman Sachs, Citibank, and the most unregulated war profiteering and privateering capitalism as is possible. Made in the USA. Plunder is the name of their game. It isn't a "free market" to them, it's government contracts for rebuilding after bombings. It's government sanctioned and enabled selling of cluster bombs, and the entire US arsenal to the favored despots.

To that end they're totally invested in the NSA being in control of our speech via total capture of it, for their own purposes.

That isn't "fear". That's the apex of predation.

questionseverything

(9,645 posts)
44. i noticed that hc's supporters were the snowden haters too
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 01:17 PM
Feb 2016

the nsa main purpose is probably to keep the for profit prisons full

parallel construction and all

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
24. I don't get it either
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 08:48 PM
Feb 2016

Do they not understand her positions and are they not aware of her actions and behaviors?

Or do they know and they just don't care?

Truly mind boggling.

CorporatistNation

(2,546 posts)
14. How Very Well Done! Excellent Contrast As To Who Cares More About The People...
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 08:09 PM
Feb 2016

Bernie never trying to prove something... Certainly never considering himself inevitable or somehow superior to those that he truly hopes to serve... On the other hand... Hillary....

ybbor

(1,554 posts)
27. Bernie is constantly talking about "us"
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 09:12 PM
Feb 2016

He considers himself simply as the spokesperson for "us". Which is what is so amazing about him.

When he speaks it is "we" need to do this, it's not how he will get it done, but how we will get it done. It starts from the bottom and moves upward. He speaks how every major societal change began at the bottom with common folk leading the way.

He is willing to lead us, if we only give him the chance.

We vs. me. I vs. us.

You decide.

Go Bernie Go!

Hydra

(14,459 posts)
35. IMO, Team Hill set the ball for her with BLM all those months ago
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 10:43 AM
Feb 2016

They set the terms of engagement, and Hillary was set up to go second in the attempt to show her as the better candidate for AAs. I'm sure it was intended to be a knockout punch ling before Iowa.

She fumbled it. Twice. Now a third time. She can't help it though- she really doesn't care about all of this, or the people involved. All she's radiating is "Yeah, yeah, yeah...get we skip over this to when I'm in the office and don't have to deal with you "people"?

The rest of Team Hill has to be ripping their hair out in frustration. They set everything up for her just to have to do damage control everywhere.

Punkingal

(9,522 posts)
7. i thought she treated the young lady shamefully.
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 07:27 PM
Feb 2016

She was angry and impatient and disgusted. A total lack of empathy.

RedCappedBandit

(5,514 posts)
9. Yup. And that was my issue at the time.
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 07:35 PM
Feb 2016

People criticized Bernie for his response, when I thought he handled it pretty well. Didn't make sense to me.

TheBlackAdder

(28,163 posts)
47. ...and Bernie was the first one to be targeted, so there wasn't any point of reference for him!
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 06:48 PM
Feb 2016

.



As a man who lived in the 60s, he experienced the protests, the need for people to take the stage and mic!


For him, he just let the people say what they have to say because he lived for civil rights!



.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
13. Yup, before I went to bed, way too late
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 08:05 PM
Feb 2016

it was already trending. Now it is OH MY FUCKING GOD, cannot keep with it

Nyan

(1,192 posts)
20. The differences are glaring, indeed.
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 08:24 PM
Feb 2016

Who is more likely to listen to the needs of Black community? Who is actually going to respect their views? It's such a no-brainer...

dragonfly301

(399 posts)
26. "Now let's get back to the issues that I think are important"
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 09:00 PM
Feb 2016

This has to be the most tone deaf thing she could have said.

 

Jitter65

(3,089 posts)
30. And the issues are important. She was talking about the criminal justice system with people who
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 09:29 PM
Feb 2016

might have influence to do something about it.

 

Jitter65

(3,089 posts)
31. That twitter post is deceitful. And these were not the only time BLM faced HRC.
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 09:32 PM
Feb 2016

This is really making me have second thoughts about BLM... but that is just me.

Hydra

(14,459 posts)
36. Sorry, Hillary had everything set up for her with BLM
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 10:49 AM
Feb 2016

And she has now botched it 3 times. Team Hill made a big deal about how important BLM was until their candidate couldn't show that she actually cares about their issue.

Please feel free to dismiss the people and issues Hillary's campaign tried to use to get her elected. It perfectly highlights the moral bankruptcy going on here.

 

FangedNoumenom

(145 posts)
43. An interesting quote
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 01:14 PM
Feb 2016

“White Americans need to do a better job of listening when African Americans talk about the seen and unseen barriers they face every day.” — HRC, speaking in Harlem 8 days before the Ashley Williams encounter

Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,760 posts)
45. Sorry, but gotta be a stickler for facts in this as in all things,
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 05:55 PM
Feb 2016

as best I can, anyway. The photo with "she crossed her arms" does not show her crossing her arms.

Meme creator should either get the photo where she was or change the text.

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