2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumAnti-Hillary Clinton Hashtag Breaks the Internet 2 Days Before South Carolina Primary
Ashley Williams demonstrated the power, not only of Black Lives Matter, but also individual acts of courage. With social media, a single voice can trigger an avalanche.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/brian-hanley/anti-hillary-clinton-hash_b_9322034.html
fascinating, I said it yesterday that this could be bad for the campaign. I ran a story today on the social media aspect of this, and in the headline I posited that it might hurt the campaign. I guess this is what political observers do.
CorporatistNation
(2,546 posts)She'll be sure to discuss it... NOT!
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)Seriously. This will cost Rachel as well. Hayes covered it to his credit.
People are really having a big moment of WTF over. Manufactured consent is not just a title of a book
grasswire
(50,130 posts)The first 48 minutes of their show was about Trump et al.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)CNN did a lot more on this today, I think.
Right now watching West go at it with a surrogate on mass incarceration
this is becoming a study of media as well
delrem
(9,688 posts)Now that we've got our candidate.
artislife
(9,497 posts)Doncha know?!
Everything is great!
grasswire
(50,130 posts)Trump is the proof of media malfeasance.
jillan
(39,451 posts)that voter turnout is down.
brooklynite
(96,882 posts)Wilms
(26,795 posts)I'm sure you, like I, first thought, "WTF?", at the notion of a "viral" video.
3auld6phart
(1,683 posts)It's the signatures in your post that caught my eye.They would make a great team. Long over due for a female POTUS. But not the lady weathervane who is running and wants it so bad.
artislife
(9,497 posts)You are a nice person.
Babel_17
(5,400 posts)Slashdot effect
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
"Flash crowd" redirects here. For the short story by Larry Niven, see Flash Crowd. For the social gathering in the real world, see flash mob.
The Slashdot effect, also known as slashdotting, occurs when a popular website links to a smaller site, causing a massive increase in traffic. This overloads the smaller site, causing it to slow down or even temporarily become unavailable. The name stems from the huge influx of web traffic that would result from the technology news site Slashdot linking to websites. However the name is somewhat dated as flash crowds from Slashdot were reported to be diminishing as of 2005 due to competition from similar sites.[1] The effect has been associated with other websites or metablogs such as Fark, Digg, Drudge Report, Imgur, Reddit, and Twitter, leading to terms such as being Farked or Drudged, being under the Reddit effect, or receiving a "hug of death" from the site in question.[2][3] Google Doodles, which link to search results on the doodle topic, also result in high increases of traffic from the search results page.[4] Typically, less robust sites are unable to cope with the huge increase in traffic and become unavailable common causes are lack of sufficient data bandwidth, servers that fail to cope with the high number of requests, and traffic quotas. Sites that are maintained on shared hosting services often fail when confronted with the Slashdot effect.
A flash crowd is a more generic term without using any specific name that describes a network phenomenon where a network or host suddenly receives a lot of traffic. This is sometimes due to the appearance of a website on a blog or news column.
I've seen it happen, experienced not being able to connect to a site/download a game demo when my fellow nerds were all clicking the same link.
I guess that now that's also referred to as "breaking the internet".
Such a vulnerable "series of tubes" ...
Ten movies streaming across that, that Internet, and what happens to your own personal Internet? I just the other day got an Internet was sent by my staff at 10 o'clock in the morning on Friday. I got it yesterday [Tuesday]. Why? Because it got tangled up with all these things going on the Internet commercially.
[ ] They want to deliver vast amounts of information over the Internet. And again, the Internet is not something that you just dump something on. It's not a big truck. It's a series of tubes. And if you don't understand, those tubes can be filled and if they are filled, when you put your message in, it gets in line and it's going to be delayed by anyone that puts into that tube enormous amounts of material, enormous amounts of material.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Series_of_tubes
questionseverything
(11,836 posts)nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)due to the number of downloads and server demands
I watched that hashtag go from a couple a minute to I cannot keep up, That is what the kids call "breaking the internet." It is a slang, so I hope that helps you understand what it means.
In a term you might understand... this has the potential of becoming a big fucking deal, to quote the VEEP of the United States.
seaglass
(8,185 posts)internet.
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)seaglass
(8,185 posts)Break the Internet or to break the Internet is a catchphrase used to indicate when a narrative, story, or image goes extremely viral, spreading through many different regions of the Internet at once. The term went into wide use with this meaning after being featured as the headline for Kim Kardashians Paper Magazine cover.
http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/break-the-internet
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)tutorial in any case.
Babel_17
(5,400 posts)I thought it was about making websites hard to connect to, due to more traffic than they can handle*. While that might be a side effect, it's not what's being referred to, it seems.
*The Slashdot effect
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)the day wore on. I wonder when the Establishment Dems will 'get' how little power the Corporate Media has anymore. Which is fine, Bernie was supposed to be GONE by now airc, for months! According to the establishment, Corporate 'experts'.
No way would he even make it to Iowa, which he won btw, or NH where he wiped the floor with EVERYONE with ALL demographics.
Hillary, we were told, 'has the women's vote' We women were yelling 'WRONG' but the Establishment old school experts 'knew better'. Bernie has the young women's vote by huge margins because they finally found someone who speaks for them and who LISTENS.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)From a manufacturing of consent this is troubling.
delrem
(9,688 posts)nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)coffee is freshly brewed
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)
artislife
(9,497 posts)nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)More extensive meta story
artislife
(9,497 posts)He met with Native Americans (mostly from my people!) and steel workers!
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)This is on social media manipulation
Dragonfli
(10,622 posts)Forming into fully functional legs.
Good early call on the social media aspect of it.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)the legs are now fully formed and this is starting to run.
vdogg
(1,385 posts)I now expect Hillary to lose SC in a landslide...
72DejaVu
(1,545 posts)Isn't that how it works?
freddyt
(27 posts)...to lose states of greater import. But keep telling yourself that it won't matter if it makes you feel better.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)but you keep telling yourself this does not matter
72DejaVu
(1,545 posts)I've been able to read all about Hillary's huge poll leads all day.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)nadinbrzezinski (145,059 posts)
7. Well for about an hour you could not download the video
due to the number of downloads and server demands
I watched that hashtag go from a couple a minute to I cannot keep up, That is what the kids call "breaking the internet." It is a slang, so I hope that helps you understand what it means.
In a term you might understand... this has the potential of becoming a big fucking deal, to quote the VEEP of the United States.
72DejaVu
(1,545 posts)You may be right, this could be as big a controversy as the one that was going to derail the Clinton campaign the day before yesterday, or that one on Monday, or even the three last week!
Fearless
(18,458 posts)No need to be snarky.
72DejaVu
(1,545 posts)Or did they just disappear when the realities of the campaign set in?
Fearless
(18,458 posts)72DejaVu
(1,545 posts)Reliving past glories already? Voters in upcoming states are voters, too, aren't they?
Fearless
(18,458 posts)You Hillary supporters do have a habit of counting your eggs before their hatched however. I can understand that. It comes straight from the top. The coronation candidate.
JackRiddler
(24,979 posts)Or for nobody, certainly not Clinton. Just saying. He was very pro-OWS.
72DejaVu
(1,545 posts)I'm sure he will win big in the Forestlawn primary.
JackRiddler
(24,979 posts)All Tammany style.
72DejaVu
(1,545 posts)Just sayin'
JackRiddler
(24,979 posts)72DejaVu
(1,545 posts)After about a century.
JackRiddler
(24,979 posts)At least, since we both seem to be referring to the reign of Tweed. (There's still a Tammany today, actually.) That was from 1858 until 1871, or a period roughly corresponding to, say, 1992 until 2016.
Thanks for making my day!
EDIT: D'oh!!!
1,871 minus 1,858 equals 13 or 14. My mistake. I wanted it to be so, you got me. The Clintons and their Third Way are indeed doing much better than Tweed.
72DejaVu
(1,545 posts)I was not. Tammany was a potent political force into the 1950s.
(BTW:If you are interested, Selwyn Raab's Five Families: The Rise, Decline, and Resurgence of America's Most Powerful Mafia Empires includes a very good telling of the fall of Tammany in the DeSapio/Costello era.)
JackRiddler
(24,979 posts)See, something useful is coming of this after all. Also, I've discovered that my math needs correcting... but I am capable of correcting it, which is a good sign. (See edited post above.)
72DejaVu
(1,545 posts)And if you're a fan of The Godfather and/or The Sopranos it's great fun recognizing here many of their characters and plot points came from
JackRiddler
(24,979 posts)72DejaVu
(1,545 posts)between supporting OWS and supporting Bernie?
I imagine the overlap is pretty high, but of course, it's certainly not complete.
JackRiddler
(24,979 posts)I would estimate between 70-90% of OWS would be for Bernie, and maybe 0.00001% for Clinton. Rhetorically, Sanders is the 2016 version of OWS, for whatever it's worth. And for all the imperfections of OWS from my own point of view, somewhat to the left of it. He's all Break Up the Big Banks and Tobin Tax and prosecute the miscreants and whatnot.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)I happen to not be one. Who I vote for is my business, as both an independent and independent media. The funny thing is you will need my vote (and the rest of the 43 percent) we are the true king makers. So who your nominates is your business.
I also happen to live in an open primary state. Ah how to be strategic.
So do proceed governor. When your antics transfer to the meat department, I know we have entered the twilight zone of american primaries, and you guys are going to be the people I will blame when you lose in November. Not the professional left. YOU.
The alienating tactics are going to cost you both in fundraising and votes, assuming your favored candidate becomes the nominee. Oh and one last thing. ENJOY PRESIDENT TRUMP. He will be the nominee for the other side, and quite frankly FASCISTS do scare me. So believe it or not, with all her faults, I would prefer the democrat, in November, even YOUR candidate.
xocet
(4,442 posts)nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)but trying to educate you on slang. This term is not just used for this hashtag. You realize the Superbowll also "broke the internet?" So did a TV program last night.
And I know I am correct. This is just picking speed. You know what Twitter just did? (Not the first time, perhaps the first time in the US... they removed the hashtag. So the kids are doing the same thing as kids in other places, The new hashtag is #whichhillarycensored. Nope a trending topic does not disappear that fast and users are now complaining that people cannot see their tweets on the original hashtag.
Lemme see how well that has worked in the past.
72DejaVu
(1,545 posts)Oh, I get it, it's like those memes where Bernie is all hip and cool and Hillary is dumb and clueless.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)so you knew what it meant, but still pretended. By the way, there are people who do not, honestly know what that means.
Have an excellent day. Me, trying to figure this... the hashtag is still alive, but was removed from all trending maps even though it is faster now than two hours ago. Reminds me of #somos132, That could be a story.
72DejaVu
(1,545 posts)And, really, try to see the humor in things. It will all go easier.
Jitter65
(3,089 posts)the chance to respond. Watch the video again. This is really some sick s--T.
Fearless
(18,458 posts)Are you serious?
senz
(11,945 posts)desmiller
(747 posts)We just don't think our candidate is perfect.
aspirant
(3,533 posts)BillZBubb
(10,650 posts)I see what you mean about this humor thing.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)Just curious, because I have seen them die horrific deaths all day.
TM99
(8,352 posts)that little black girl completely over-powered poor Hillary Clinton.
Why, she must be a superpredator indeed!
Cassiopeia
(2,603 posts)That's why she was escorted out of the room.
Peace Patriot
(24,010 posts)Instead of having her SS remove the very polite Ashley (who had paid the $500 to be there!), she should have asked the young woman to sit down and have her full say, and should have asked the rich white folk she was milking for funds to listen and respond, and get a conversation going. It would have been brilliant, but she is not capable of great leadership. And I think that's because she is a fractured and defensive personality with too many golden shackles wrapped around her, a lot of them from the very prison profiteers and "war on drugs" profiteers--Clinton policies for which she has been well paid-- that have resulted, not only in massive incarceration of blacks and destruction of black families and communities, but also in cops shooting black men dead in the street for no reason at all.
Ashley talked fast because she knew, though she was a paying guest, she would be evicted for challenging Clinton, even in a very quiet and polite way. If Clinton had done what I said would have been great leadership, Ashley would have had her say, listened to the answer, then Clinton and the others there may have spoken further, and Ashley could respond--you know, a CONVERSATION.
Clinton had her thrown out, and then turned back to her rich white funders in their antebellum house and said, "Now let's get back to the issues." Gawd, what a gaff!
The photo taken just after Ashley was taken out showed Clinton's back continuing her spiel and the most bored looking audience I've ever seen. Almost funny, they were so bored-looking. Poor rich people--on what could've been the liveliest political event of their lives. Ashley brought it to life!
TheFarS1de
(1,017 posts)and instead of carpe diem she released the hounds .... and promptly moved on .
Oilwellian
(12,647 posts)she said: "Uh, OK, back to the issues, the issues that I think are important."
That gives it an entirely new meaning.
Peace Patriot
(24,010 posts)That is how I understand what you said, and others will understand it that way as well. It's kind of like Clinton's use of "super-predators," though in her case, since I now know the origin of that word, I think it was no mistake but rather a deliberate political use of a buzz word, given to her by an academic, that is code for black, in her pursuit of establishing a lucrative "prison-industrial complex" for mass incarceration.
Please explain "This is really some sick s--t." Do you mean Ashley's protest? Do you mean BLM issues? And if not, what do you mean?
As it stands, we have a Clinton supporter seeming to say that protest against the murders of innocent blacks by the cops, and massive imprisonment of blacks, is "some sick s--t."
artislife
(9,497 posts)And then she could have given her the attention she was seeking. Then answer.
Instead of talking over and averting and allowing her to be swept away from her hired staff.
I guess hillary is really done with her "listening tours".
TNProfessor
(83 posts)Maybe she will only win by 25 instead of 30.
JackRiddler
(24,979 posts)A 5-delegate difference would be pretty big for a start.
onehandle
(51,122 posts)72DejaVu
(1,545 posts)Obviously, since Bernie has more hashtags and Hillary has more voters.
JackRiddler
(24,979 posts)Clinton appears to have better numbers in polls using a variety of methods to take samplings of potential voters in future (note: "future"
Democratic primaries and caucuses. ("Future" would mean such primaries and caucuses as have not yet been held, by the way. It seems necessary to define terms in this thread.) She does indeed have leads in many of these polls among these theoretical voters, at least, in polls so far. These aren't voters, however. They are no more voters than hashtags are voters. They may turn out to be less so.
72DejaVu
(1,545 posts)My state doesn't caucus until March 6, but more than 8,000 votes have already been cast via absentee ballot. That's a decent number of non-entities in my book.
JackRiddler
(24,979 posts)Then you are quite the insider, but I wouldn't think you would want to make that so obvious. Thinking Tammany again? Pride goeth before the fall...
zappaman
(20,627 posts)So as much as you hope this tanks Clinton, it won't.
Sorry.
Are we going to get another explanation of the idiom now?

nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)⭐ ⭐BERNIE ✊2016 ⭐ ⭐ @TheLinzpooh 35s36 seconds ago
#WhichHillary, top trend, removed from Twitter while out-trending GOP debate!
#SHAMEONTWITTER
That is one of the reactions. And this should creep people out. Ah #somos132 all over again.
Beartracks
(14,591 posts)That sort of goes against the whole notion of "trending."
Twitter's value (and there is $ value) as a finger on the pulse of "what's happening right now" hinges strongly on them NOT trifling with those trends.
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nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)but in my memory they have never done it in CONUS.
I am extremely familiar with #somos132... that lasted a week. Every time the new hash was removed, the kids started a new one. Finally twitter gave up and let the last one go though it's natural course.
Beartracks
(14,591 posts)Oh, wait: There's also a WhichBernie hashtag?
I think the answer is "Same one there's always been!"
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nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)not the general
here
San Diego Trends · Change
#GOPDebate
#IdolTop10
#WorkFromHome
#EddieWouldGo
#WhichHillary
The 1975
Tony Burton
Octavia
Zodiac Killer
#MyFamilyIn4Words
But not in a general trend.
arcane1
(38,613 posts)All I can say is
WOW!!! He was a like a parody of a phony politician!!!
Nyan
(1,192 posts)Remember Mitt? Rubio is their Hispanic Mitt. They do seem to be reaching out to minorities.
Chicago1980
(1,968 posts)nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)none is saying that. Though I would not completely discount it. Two days before, no polling data can account for this. Best case, and that is my personal outlier, polls will be off by 10 points.
Since Saturday is far from the last primary...
grasswire
(50,130 posts)And lordy, the comments on facebook are just red hot. I see a lot of AA young people tagging their friends to see it.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)traffic has exploded.
zappaman
(20,627 posts)Wow!
That must have been some article you wrote!
Congrats!!!
noiretextatique
(27,275 posts)With some very pointed comments.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)some of our local leaders (I "follow" them on FB), have been... well... a few have been not that polite.
grasswire
(50,130 posts)tazkcmo
(7,419 posts)and disagree. My feeling is Sec Clinton will win but not by as large a margin as before and possibly significantly less. Any ground Sen Sanders can gain keeps the total delegate count closer and there's still a lot of primary left. Just my 2 cents worth that's lost all of its value to inflation.
jalan48
(14,914 posts)nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)BillZBubb
(10,650 posts)The effect probably won't be felt much until after Super Tuesday. Hillary is still going to win big in all the southern primaries. She'll still own the conservative states--that's her base of support.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)albeit small.
Fiendish Thingy
(23,229 posts)Seems like someone should have mentioned the hashtag was all about...
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)Given the quite is straight from the article.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)and lord knows many great ones have gone though...
:large
arcane1
(38,613 posts)I swear, in that first video, she's damn near falling over backward trying to distance herself.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)arcane1
(38,613 posts)nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)Yup
kgnu_fan
(3,021 posts)MaggieD
(7,393 posts)Working just fine.
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)the way some of these folks are laughing this up, tells me this is a talking point at this point. Then again I might be under estimating the level of ignorance regarding social media with older Americans. But I have a small sample of those, and a few can keep their own with the kids. So I might have a very biased sample
Oh hells bell, some are that ignorant though. But the way this became quickly a point of derision and a talking point was quite well, impressive. I wonder if this was just one of the many talking points that never made it to the twitter? This one would take ten minutes to be laughed out of there. They would not even bother with hitting the horse, let alone making into pulp.
MoonRiver
(36,975 posts)Babel_17
(5,400 posts)Has there been in an increase in the general reservation towards Secretary Clinton's history, among her supporters, and the undecideds? If so, will that persist?
From where I sit, the electorate looks polarized. But I have to acknowledge that it's likely that in the later primary states a large percentage of voters are very far from being in either camp.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)If this has any effect on Super Tuesday or tomorrow, no poll can account for it. Super Tuesday they might.
We will know soon though relatively speaking.
And as far as my state. All polling information so far has Clinton leading, but my primary is in June... so there are some NATIONAL add buys on the cables... none on local tv or radio. As far as the lcoals are concerned the primary is news reporting in the paper (some) and the tv... and that is the extent of it.
So where I can see this is on Twitter, and facebook. Some of the NON political folks I follow, and they follow me, reacting quite badly to that video. That mind you is is far from scientific. Just as the HRC supporter berating the Sanders supporter at the meat department in my supermarket before this happened.
So I agree with the writer of that piece. It will take a little time to percolate, but if we are going to see an effect it will take some folks by surprise. For the moment, peeled the curtain a tad more, and working on a piece on how social media is used in elections. 2008 was an excellent example for instance. The obama team was way ahead of the curve. This election... to be honest, nobody is doing a very good job out of it.
Babel_17
(5,400 posts)Yeah, I think an important question is if this will have a lasting impact on those "non political folks". Like the national election probably will, this primary shows the importance of the undecided voters, and the voters who don't reliably show up.
I don't see Sanders or Clinton as being generic candidates. And they have contrasting differences of opinion on some issues that are important to Democratic primary voters. So I think that goes to why we see a polarized electorate. And that makes doubly interesting those voters who haven't been polarized into either camp.
I'm hoping a lot of them just haven't gotten to know Senator Sanders. Needless to say, his meteoric improvement in the polls is due in part to getting himself known. I'm also hoping that if these uncommitted voters have "deal breakers" in mind, they'll break in Senator Sanders favor.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)and it is just getting worst.
Some of it though is the we know there is corruption in DC and they are not listening to us. This IMO is a change election, like 2008 was. And if people do not get real change though the ballot box, sooner or later they will conclude the only place left is the streets.
Oilwellian
(12,647 posts)It was captioned, "Who put Rosa Parks at the back of the H?"
So clever.
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Rosa Luxemburg
(28,627 posts)She will probably win in SC but this ongoing exposure of what she really is will deter people from supporting her in the later races.