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nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 10:52 PM Feb 2016

Anti-Hillary Clinton Hashtag Breaks the Internet 2 Days Before South Carolina Primary

We saw with Marco Rubio's egregious debate performance that even a single televised blunder can extinguish whatever momentum a presidential candidate has. It's quite possible that the viral video of Clinton dodging questions from BLM activists could hurt her later down the road, especially in regards to the black vote.

Ashley Williams demonstrated the power, not only of Black Lives Matter, but also individual acts of courage. With social media, a single voice can trigger an avalanche.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/brian-hanley/anti-hillary-clinton-hash_b_9322034.html

fascinating, I said it yesterday that this could be bad for the campaign. I ran a story today on the social media aspect of this, and in the headline I posited that it might hurt the campaign. I guess this is what political observers do.


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Anti-Hillary Clinton Hashtag Breaks the Internet 2 Days Before South Carolina Primary (Original Post) nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 OP
Did You Send It To Rachel? CorporatistNation Feb 2016 #1
She was called on it hundreds of time on the twitter nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #2
Halperin and Heileman didn't mention it either. grasswire Feb 2016 #70
True nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #73
I hear tell that these protests are so yesterday. You know? delrem Feb 2016 #76
Well...we have no more items to protest artislife Feb 2016 #100
yes, very true grasswire Feb 2016 #90
Of course she didn't discuss it. Her and Kasie were too busy discussing how it's all Bernie's fault jillan Feb 2016 #12
Did the internet break? I didn't notice. brooklynite Feb 2016 #3
I think it's an expression the kid's use, BK. Wilms Feb 2016 #5
Bernie and Ms.Warren 3auld6phart Feb 2016 #97
I think you are very kind to that poster. artislife Feb 2016 #101
It's akin to when a site gets "slashdotted" Babel_17 Feb 2016 #120
here is whr hc learned the term super predator questionseverything Feb 2016 #6
Well for about an hour you could not download the video nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #7
It's a Kardashian thing. In any case #blackish trended longer, so no, it didn't break the seaglass Feb 2016 #14
Kardashian thing? I understand the need of some to denigrate, but Kardashian? That's low.n/t libdem4life Feb 2016 #109
know your meme seaglass Feb 2016 #115
Again, and I do know the "meme", it's apples and oranges. But thanks for the libdem4life Feb 2016 #116
Thanks, that makes sense. I was a bit off in my guess as to its meaning Babel_17 Feb 2016 #124
It was amazing, the hashtag was trending at the top of the list all day and only gained momentum as sabrina 1 Feb 2016 #28
Funny I just ran a story on that nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #58
Keep following that. delrem Feb 2016 #77
I fear another long night, nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #78
Ok let me reach for the tinfoil hat nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #89
Gee, there can't be ANY connection, right? nt artislife Feb 2016 #102
This afternoon I will be working on a nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #108
Hey check out my new OP on Bernie in Hibbing MN artislife Feb 2016 #110
Good I will nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #111
As I recall, early on you had noted it was growing "stumps" well, those stumps appear to be Dragonfli Feb 2016 #4
Yup, last night I said this is growing stumps nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #8
That's a mighty powerful hashtag vdogg Feb 2016 #9
One hashtag, one vote 72DejaVu Feb 2016 #11
She's plenty of time... freddyt Feb 2016 #13
the article does not say that nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #15
Nope, internet is still working 72DejaVu Feb 2016 #10
Explanation since you obviously need it nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #16
Thanks for the condescending explanation! 72DejaVu Feb 2016 #20
The poster was correct in their statement. Fearless Feb 2016 #22
Did Bernie supporters ever have sense of humors? 72DejaVu Feb 2016 #24
What reality?? 51-51 delegate count and winning the popular vote? Fearless Feb 2016 #29
Instant nostalgia! 72DejaVu Feb 2016 #32
Umm... this is the present statistics actually. Fearless Feb 2016 #63
Lou Reed would be for Bernie. JackRiddler Feb 2016 #31
Considering the number of dead people that have posthumously endorsed Bernie 72DejaVu Feb 2016 #34
Nah, Clinton has the dead people primary locked up. JackRiddler Feb 2016 #36
Tammany won a boatload of elections 72DejaVu Feb 2016 #37
But it fell. JackRiddler Feb 2016 #39
Well, yeah, that's true 72DejaVu Feb 2016 #41
Actually, no, it was about 24 years. JackRiddler Feb 2016 #45
You may have been referring only to the Tweed era 72DejaVu Feb 2016 #51
Thanks, I am interested. JackRiddler Feb 2016 #52
It'a a good read, informative and entertaining 72DejaVu Feb 2016 #54
"I wanna Occupy Wall Street. I support it. In each and every way." JackRiddler Feb 2016 #50
Do you think there is a 100% correlation 72DejaVu Feb 2016 #53
Certainly not 100%! JackRiddler Feb 2016 #56
Ah yes, the bernie supporters meme nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #40
"...sense of humors? (sic)" Borat, is that you? n/t xocet Feb 2016 #82
Not condescending nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #26
You really thought I didn't know what it meant? 72DejaVu Feb 2016 #30
Well I am going from WHAT YOU POSTED nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #33
Well, you have an excellent day, too 72DejaVu Feb 2016 #35
Like everything else that is said about HRC...not true. She didn't dodge anything, she never had Jitter65 Feb 2016 #17
Are you actually CONDONING Hillary's response to BLM?! Fearless Feb 2016 #23
They condone everything she does. senz Feb 2016 #25
"Hillary Hypnosis" at its best. desmiller Feb 2016 #27
Actually 72DejaVu Feb 2016 #55
That's your humor again, right? aspirant Feb 2016 #72
That's your funniest post of the night. BillZBubb Feb 2016 #79
Is this a new talking point? nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #47
I know, really, can you believe TM99 Feb 2016 #64
She didn't want to respond Cassiopeia Feb 2016 #68
You are so wrong. She had every chance to turn this into a moment of great leadership. Peace Patriot Feb 2016 #75
Opportunity knocked ... TheFarS1de Feb 2016 #86
Correction on your Clinton quote Oilwellian Feb 2016 #117
I object to you implying that BLM issues are "some sick s--t." Peace Patriot Feb 2016 #80
She could have said to the man escorting Ashley out "Wait." artislife Feb 2016 #103
smh TNProfessor Feb 2016 #18
You think so? JackRiddler Feb 2016 #38
Hashtags are voters? onehandle Feb 2016 #19
Hashtags are more powerful than voters! 72DejaVu Feb 2016 #21
You seem to be confused. JackRiddler Feb 2016 #42
Interesting take on things 72DejaVu Feb 2016 #44
Do you have a count on the mail ballots? JackRiddler Feb 2016 #48
The internet seems to be working fine. zappaman Feb 2016 #43
Oh No! 72DejaVu Feb 2016 #46
... zappaman Feb 2016 #49
Yup, there is increasing evidence the hash tag was removed from trending maps nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #57
Twitter can de-trend a hashtag? Beartracks Feb 2016 #62
Yes they can nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #65
I see it trending now @ 322K... Beartracks Feb 2016 #84
I can see it on the San Diego one nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #87
Oh god... I was wondering what you meant about Rubio so I did some digging. I hadn't seen the debate arcane1 Feb 2016 #59
Republican establishment seems to like robotic types. Nyan Feb 2016 #83
That's not going to change the outcome in South Carolina. Chicago1980 Feb 2016 #60
Read the paras I posted nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #61
it was the top story on AOL news all day. grasswire Feb 2016 #71
Let's just say they are breaking my site nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #74
your site went down because of all the traffic? zappaman Feb 2016 #91
It is being posted by my younger black friends noiretextatique Feb 2016 #93
Yup, nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #94
yes, I have seen that as well. nt grasswire Feb 2016 #96
I agree tazkcmo Feb 2016 #67
Hillary's fake image took a big hit on this one. People are catching on. jalan48 Feb 2016 #66
I agree. nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #69
Maybe, but turning an oil tanker takes time. The SS Hillary is Yuuuge! BillZBubb Feb 2016 #81
Correct, though I expect to see some effect nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #88
#WhichHillary? Fiendish Thingy Feb 2016 #85
Actually it is in the OP nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #92
By the way, this is one of the more impressive memes nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #95
I get the feeling she isn't too crazy about black people. She doesn't lean back for anyone else. arcane1 Feb 2016 #104
The body language was telling nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #105
Come on, everyone loves having fingers pointed in their face! The true sign of compassion. arcane1 Feb 2016 #106
Lmao nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #107
Black Lives Matter nt kgnu_fan Feb 2016 #98
I checked - my internet is not broken MaggieD Feb 2016 #99
That's nice. Something tells me you missed the digital point. libdem4life Feb 2016 #112
You are being too kind nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #114
Hope springs eternal. eom MoonRiver Feb 2016 #113
Do you see the narrative driving our primary as having changed? Babel_17 Feb 2016 #118
Too early to tell nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #119
Thanks ... Babel_17 Feb 2016 #122
Well we live in a polarized country nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #123
My favorite photo at #whichhillary Oilwellian Feb 2016 #121
Hilllary is starting to be exposed Rosa Luxemburg Feb 2016 #125
 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
2. She was called on it hundreds of time on the twitter
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 10:57 PM
Feb 2016

Seriously. This will cost Rachel as well. Hayes covered it to his credit.

People are really having a big moment of WTF over. Manufactured consent is not just a title of a book

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
70. Halperin and Heileman didn't mention it either.
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 12:33 AM
Feb 2016

The first 48 minutes of their show was about Trump et al.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
73. True
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 12:41 AM
Feb 2016

CNN did a lot more on this today, I think.

Right now watching West go at it with a surrogate on mass incarceration

this is becoming a study of media as well

delrem

(9,688 posts)
76. I hear tell that these protests are so yesterday. You know?
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 12:55 AM
Feb 2016

Now that we've got our candidate.

jillan

(39,451 posts)
12. Of course she didn't discuss it. Her and Kasie were too busy discussing how it's all Bernie's fault
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 11:08 PM
Feb 2016

that voter turnout is down.

 

Wilms

(26,795 posts)
5. I think it's an expression the kid's use, BK.
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 11:02 PM
Feb 2016

I'm sure you, like I, first thought, "WTF?", at the notion of a "viral" video.

3auld6phart

(1,683 posts)
97. Bernie and Ms.Warren
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 06:05 PM
Feb 2016

It's the signatures in your post that caught my eye.They would make a great team. Long over due for a female POTUS. But not the lady weathervane who is running and wants it so bad.

Babel_17

(5,400 posts)
120. It's akin to when a site gets "slashdotted"
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 08:09 PM
Feb 2016
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slashdot_effect

Slashdot effect
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
"Flash crowd" redirects here. For the short story by Larry Niven, see Flash Crowd. For the social gathering in the real world, see flash mob.

The Slashdot effect, also known as slashdotting, occurs when a popular website links to a smaller site, causing a massive increase in traffic. This overloads the smaller site, causing it to slow down or even temporarily become unavailable. The name stems from the huge influx of web traffic that would result from the technology news site Slashdot linking to websites. However the name is somewhat dated as flash crowds from Slashdot were reported to be diminishing as of 2005 due to competition from similar sites.[1] The effect has been associated with other websites or metablogs such as Fark, Digg, Drudge Report, Imgur, Reddit, and Twitter, leading to terms such as being Farked or Drudged, being under the Reddit effect, or receiving a "hug of death" from the site in question.[2][3] Google Doodles, which link to search results on the doodle topic, also result in high increases of traffic from the search results page.[4] Typically, less robust sites are unable to cope with the huge increase in traffic and become unavailable – common causes are lack of sufficient data bandwidth, servers that fail to cope with the high number of requests, and traffic quotas. Sites that are maintained on shared hosting services often fail when confronted with the Slashdot effect.

A flash crowd is a more generic term without using any specific name that describes a network phenomenon where a network or host suddenly receives a lot of traffic. This is sometimes due to the appearance of a website on a blog or news column.


I've seen it happen, experienced not being able to connect to a site/download a game demo when my fellow nerds were all clicking the same link.

I guess that now that's also referred to as "breaking the internet".

Such a vulnerable "series of tubes" ...

Ten movies streaming across that, that Internet, and what happens to your own personal Internet? I just the other day got… an Internet was sent by my staff at 10 o'clock in the morning on Friday. I got it yesterday [Tuesday]. Why? Because it got tangled up with all these things going on the Internet commercially.

[…] They want to deliver vast amounts of information over the Internet. And again, the Internet is not something that you just dump something on. It's not a big truck. It's a series of tubes. And if you don't understand, those tubes can be filled and if they are filled, when you put your message in, it gets in line and it's going to be delayed by anyone that puts into that tube enormous amounts of material, enormous amounts of material.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Series_of_tubes
 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
7. Well for about an hour you could not download the video
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 11:02 PM
Feb 2016

due to the number of downloads and server demands

I watched that hashtag go from a couple a minute to I cannot keep up, That is what the kids call "breaking the internet." It is a slang, so I hope that helps you understand what it means.

In a term you might understand... this has the potential of becoming a big fucking deal, to quote the VEEP of the United States.

seaglass

(8,185 posts)
14. It's a Kardashian thing. In any case #blackish trended longer, so no, it didn't break the
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 11:10 PM
Feb 2016

internet.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
109. Kardashian thing? I understand the need of some to denigrate, but Kardashian? That's low.n/t
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 06:24 PM
Feb 2016

seaglass

(8,185 posts)
115. know your meme
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 07:24 PM
Feb 2016

Break the Internet or to break the Internet is a catchphrase used to indicate when a narrative, story, or image goes extremely viral, spreading through many different regions of the Internet at once. The term went into wide use with this meaning after being featured as the headline for Kim Kardashian’s Paper Magazine cover.

http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/break-the-internet

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
116. Again, and I do know the "meme", it's apples and oranges. But thanks for the
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 07:27 PM
Feb 2016

tutorial in any case.

Babel_17

(5,400 posts)
124. Thanks, that makes sense. I was a bit off in my guess as to its meaning
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 08:35 PM
Feb 2016

I thought it was about making websites hard to connect to, due to more traffic than they can handle*. While that might be a side effect, it's not what's being referred to, it seems.

*The Slashdot effect

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
28. It was amazing, the hashtag was trending at the top of the list all day and only gained momentum as
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 11:31 PM
Feb 2016

the day wore on. I wonder when the Establishment Dems will 'get' how little power the Corporate Media has anymore. Which is fine, Bernie was supposed to be GONE by now airc, for months! According to the establishment, Corporate 'experts'.

No way would he even make it to Iowa, which he won btw, or NH where he wiped the floor with EVERYONE with ALL demographics.

Hillary, we were told, 'has the women's vote' We women were yelling 'WRONG' but the Establishment old school experts 'knew better'. Bernie has the young women's vote by huge margins because they finally found someone who speaks for them and who LISTENS.

 

artislife

(9,497 posts)
110. Hey check out my new OP on Bernie in Hibbing MN
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 06:26 PM
Feb 2016

He met with Native Americans (mostly from my people!) and steel workers!

Dragonfli

(10,622 posts)
4. As I recall, early on you had noted it was growing "stumps" well, those stumps appear to be
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 11:02 PM
Feb 2016

Forming into fully functional legs.

Good early call on the social media aspect of it.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
8. Yup, last night I said this is growing stumps
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 11:03 PM
Feb 2016

the legs are now fully formed and this is starting to run.

 

freddyt

(27 posts)
13. She's plenty of time...
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 11:10 PM
Feb 2016

...to lose states of greater import. But keep telling yourself that it won't matter if it makes you feel better.

72DejaVu

(1,545 posts)
10. Nope, internet is still working
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 11:06 PM
Feb 2016

I've been able to read all about Hillary's huge poll leads all day.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
16. Explanation since you obviously need it
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 11:18 PM
Feb 2016

nadinbrzezinski (145,059 posts)
7. Well for about an hour you could not download the video

due to the number of downloads and server demands

I watched that hashtag go from a couple a minute to I cannot keep up, That is what the kids call "breaking the internet." It is a slang, so I hope that helps you understand what it means.

In a term you might understand... this has the potential of becoming a big fucking deal, to quote the VEEP of the United States.

72DejaVu

(1,545 posts)
20. Thanks for the condescending explanation!
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 11:22 PM
Feb 2016

You may be right, this could be as big a controversy as the one that was going to derail the Clinton campaign the day before yesterday, or that one on Monday, or even the three last week!

72DejaVu

(1,545 posts)
24. Did Bernie supporters ever have sense of humors?
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 11:28 PM
Feb 2016

Or did they just disappear when the realities of the campaign set in?

72DejaVu

(1,545 posts)
32. Instant nostalgia!
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 11:35 PM
Feb 2016

Reliving past glories already? Voters in upcoming states are voters, too, aren't they?

Fearless

(18,458 posts)
63. Umm... this is the present statistics actually.
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 12:19 AM
Feb 2016

You Hillary supporters do have a habit of counting your eggs before their hatched however. I can understand that. It comes straight from the top. The coronation candidate.

 

JackRiddler

(24,979 posts)
31. Lou Reed would be for Bernie.
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 11:34 PM
Feb 2016

Or for nobody, certainly not Clinton. Just saying. He was very pro-OWS.

72DejaVu

(1,545 posts)
34. Considering the number of dead people that have posthumously endorsed Bernie
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 11:37 PM
Feb 2016

I'm sure he will win big in the Forestlawn primary.

 

JackRiddler

(24,979 posts)
45. Actually, no, it was about 24 years.
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 11:49 PM
Feb 2016

At least, since we both seem to be referring to the reign of Tweed. (There's still a Tammany today, actually.) That was from 1858 until 1871, or a period roughly corresponding to, say, 1992 until 2016.

Thanks for making my day!

EDIT: D'oh!!!

1,871 minus 1,858 equals 13 or 14. My mistake. I wanted it to be so, you got me. The Clintons and their Third Way are indeed doing much better than Tweed.

72DejaVu

(1,545 posts)
51. You may have been referring only to the Tweed era
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 11:54 PM
Feb 2016

I was not. Tammany was a potent political force into the 1950s.

(BTW:If you are interested, Selwyn Raab's Five Families: The Rise, Decline, and Resurgence of America's Most Powerful Mafia Empires includes a very good telling of the fall of Tammany in the DeSapio/Costello era.)

 

JackRiddler

(24,979 posts)
52. Thanks, I am interested.
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 11:56 PM
Feb 2016

See, something useful is coming of this after all. Also, I've discovered that my math needs correcting... but I am capable of correcting it, which is a good sign. (See edited post above.)

72DejaVu

(1,545 posts)
54. It'a a good read, informative and entertaining
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 11:58 PM
Feb 2016

And if you're a fan of The Godfather and/or The Sopranos it's great fun recognizing here many of their characters and plot points came from

72DejaVu

(1,545 posts)
53. Do you think there is a 100% correlation
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 11:57 PM
Feb 2016

between supporting OWS and supporting Bernie?

I imagine the overlap is pretty high, but of course, it's certainly not complete.

 

JackRiddler

(24,979 posts)
56. Certainly not 100%!
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 11:59 PM
Feb 2016

I would estimate between 70-90% of OWS would be for Bernie, and maybe 0.00001% for Clinton. Rhetorically, Sanders is the 2016 version of OWS, for whatever it's worth. And for all the imperfections of OWS from my own point of view, somewhat to the left of it. He's all Break Up the Big Banks and Tobin Tax and prosecute the miscreants and whatnot.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
40. Ah yes, the bernie supporters meme
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 11:42 PM
Feb 2016

I happen to not be one. Who I vote for is my business, as both an independent and independent media. The funny thing is you will need my vote (and the rest of the 43 percent) we are the true king makers. So who your nominates is your business.

I also happen to live in an open primary state. Ah how to be strategic.

So do proceed governor. When your antics transfer to the meat department, I know we have entered the twilight zone of american primaries, and you guys are going to be the people I will blame when you lose in November. Not the professional left. YOU.

The alienating tactics are going to cost you both in fundraising and votes, assuming your favored candidate becomes the nominee. Oh and one last thing. ENJOY PRESIDENT TRUMP. He will be the nominee for the other side, and quite frankly FASCISTS do scare me. So believe it or not, with all her faults, I would prefer the democrat, in November, even YOUR candidate.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
26. Not condescending
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 11:29 PM
Feb 2016

but trying to educate you on slang. This term is not just used for this hashtag. You realize the Superbowll also "broke the internet?" So did a TV program last night.

And I know I am correct. This is just picking speed. You know what Twitter just did? (Not the first time, perhaps the first time in the US... they removed the hashtag. So the kids are doing the same thing as kids in other places, The new hashtag is #whichhillarycensored. Nope a trending topic does not disappear that fast and users are now complaining that people cannot see their tweets on the original hashtag.

Lemme see how well that has worked in the past.

72DejaVu

(1,545 posts)
30. You really thought I didn't know what it meant?
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 11:33 PM
Feb 2016

Oh, I get it, it's like those memes where Bernie is all hip and cool and Hillary is dumb and clueless.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
33. Well I am going from WHAT YOU POSTED
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 11:36 PM
Feb 2016

so you knew what it meant, but still pretended. By the way, there are people who do not, honestly know what that means.

Have an excellent day. Me, trying to figure this... the hashtag is still alive, but was removed from all trending maps even though it is faster now than two hours ago. Reminds me of #somos132, That could be a story.

72DejaVu

(1,545 posts)
35. Well, you have an excellent day, too
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 11:39 PM
Feb 2016

And, really, try to see the humor in things. It will all go easier.

 

Jitter65

(3,089 posts)
17. Like everything else that is said about HRC...not true. She didn't dodge anything, she never had
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 11:19 PM
Feb 2016

the chance to respond. Watch the video again. This is really some sick s--T.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
47. Is this a new talking point?
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 11:50 PM
Feb 2016

Just curious, because I have seen them die horrific deaths all day.

 

TM99

(8,352 posts)
64. I know, really, can you believe
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 12:20 AM
Feb 2016

that little black girl completely over-powered poor Hillary Clinton.

Why, she must be a superpredator indeed!

Peace Patriot

(24,010 posts)
75. You are so wrong. She had every chance to turn this into a moment of great leadership.
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 12:52 AM
Feb 2016

Instead of having her SS remove the very polite Ashley (who had paid the $500 to be there!), she should have asked the young woman to sit down and have her full say, and should have asked the rich white folk she was milking for funds to listen and respond, and get a conversation going. It would have been brilliant, but she is not capable of great leadership. And I think that's because she is a fractured and defensive personality with too many golden shackles wrapped around her, a lot of them from the very prison profiteers and "war on drugs" profiteers--Clinton policies for which she has been well paid-- that have resulted, not only in massive incarceration of blacks and destruction of black families and communities, but also in cops shooting black men dead in the street for no reason at all.

Ashley talked fast because she knew, though she was a paying guest, she would be evicted for challenging Clinton, even in a very quiet and polite way. If Clinton had done what I said would have been great leadership, Ashley would have had her say, listened to the answer, then Clinton and the others there may have spoken further, and Ashley could respond--you know, a CONVERSATION.

Clinton had her thrown out, and then turned back to her rich white funders in their antebellum house and said, "Now let's get back to the issues." Gawd, what a gaff!

The photo taken just after Ashley was taken out showed Clinton's back continuing her spiel and the most bored looking audience I've ever seen. Almost funny, they were so bored-looking. Poor rich people--on what could've been the liveliest political event of their lives. Ashley brought it to life!

TheFarS1de

(1,017 posts)
86. Opportunity knocked ...
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 02:09 AM
Feb 2016

and instead of carpe diem she released the hounds .... and promptly moved on .

Oilwellian

(12,647 posts)
117. Correction on your Clinton quote
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 07:49 PM
Feb 2016

she said: "Uh, OK, back to the issues, the issues that I think are important."

That gives it an entirely new meaning.

Peace Patriot

(24,010 posts)
80. I object to you implying that BLM issues are "some sick s--t."
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 01:13 AM
Feb 2016

That is how I understand what you said, and others will understand it that way as well. It's kind of like Clinton's use of "super-predators," though in her case, since I now know the origin of that word, I think it was no mistake but rather a deliberate political use of a buzz word, given to her by an academic, that is code for black, in her pursuit of establishing a lucrative "prison-industrial complex" for mass incarceration.

Please explain "This is really some sick s--t." Do you mean Ashley's protest? Do you mean BLM issues? And if not, what do you mean?

As it stands, we have a Clinton supporter seeming to say that protest against the murders of innocent blacks by the cops, and massive imprisonment of blacks, is "some sick s--t."

 

artislife

(9,497 posts)
103. She could have said to the man escorting Ashley out "Wait."
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 06:16 PM
Feb 2016

And then she could have given her the attention she was seeking. Then answer.

Instead of talking over and averting and allowing her to be swept away from her hired staff.



I guess hillary is really done with her "listening tours".

72DejaVu

(1,545 posts)
21. Hashtags are more powerful than voters!
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 11:23 PM
Feb 2016

Obviously, since Bernie has more hashtags and Hillary has more voters.

 

JackRiddler

(24,979 posts)
42. You seem to be confused.
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 11:46 PM
Feb 2016

Clinton appears to have better numbers in polls using a variety of methods to take samplings of potential voters in future (note: "future&quot Democratic primaries and caucuses. ("Future" would mean such primaries and caucuses as have not yet been held, by the way. It seems necessary to define terms in this thread.) She does indeed have leads in many of these polls among these theoretical voters, at least, in polls so far. These aren't voters, however. They are no more voters than hashtags are voters. They may turn out to be less so.

72DejaVu

(1,545 posts)
44. Interesting take on things
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 11:49 PM
Feb 2016

My state doesn't caucus until March 6, but more than 8,000 votes have already been cast via absentee ballot. That's a decent number of non-entities in my book.

 

JackRiddler

(24,979 posts)
48. Do you have a count on the mail ballots?
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 11:52 PM
Feb 2016

Then you are quite the insider, but I wouldn't think you would want to make that so obvious. Thinking Tammany again? Pride goeth before the fall...

zappaman

(20,627 posts)
43. The internet seems to be working fine.
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 11:49 PM
Feb 2016

So as much as you hope this tanks Clinton, it won't.
Sorry.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
57. Yup, there is increasing evidence the hash tag was removed from trending maps
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 12:08 AM
Feb 2016

⭐ ⭐BERNIE ✊2016 ⭐ ⭐ ‏@TheLinzpooh 35s36 seconds ago
#WhichHillary, top trend, removed from Twitter while out-trending GOP debate!
#SHAMEONTWITTER

That is one of the reactions. And this should creep people out. Ah #somos132 all over again.

Beartracks

(14,591 posts)
62. Twitter can de-trend a hashtag?
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 12:19 AM
Feb 2016

That sort of goes against the whole notion of "trending."

Twitter's value (and there is $ value) as a finger on the pulse of "what's happening right now" hinges strongly on them NOT trifling with those trends.

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nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
65. Yes they can
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 12:21 AM
Feb 2016

but in my memory they have never done it in CONUS.

I am extremely familiar with #somos132... that lasted a week. Every time the new hash was removed, the kids started a new one. Finally twitter gave up and let the last one go though it's natural course.

Beartracks

(14,591 posts)
84. I see it trending now @ 322K...
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 01:59 AM
Feb 2016

Oh, wait: There's also a WhichBernie hashtag? I think the answer is "Same one there's always been!"

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nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
87. I can see it on the San Diego one
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 02:12 AM
Feb 2016

not the general

here

San Diego Trends · Change
#GOPDebate
#IdolTop10
#WorkFromHome
#EddieWouldGo
#WhichHillary
The 1975
Tony Burton
Octavia
Zodiac Killer
#MyFamilyIn4Words

But not in a general trend.

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
59. Oh god... I was wondering what you meant about Rubio so I did some digging. I hadn't seen the debate
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 12:14 AM
Feb 2016

All I can say is

WOW!!! He was a like a parody of a phony politician!!!

Nyan

(1,192 posts)
83. Republican establishment seems to like robotic types.
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 01:52 AM
Feb 2016

Remember Mitt? Rubio is their Hispanic Mitt. They do seem to be reaching out to minorities.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
61. Read the paras I posted
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 12:16 AM
Feb 2016

none is saying that. Though I would not completely discount it. Two days before, no polling data can account for this. Best case, and that is my personal outlier, polls will be off by 10 points.

Since Saturday is far from the last primary...

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
71. it was the top story on AOL news all day.
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 12:36 AM
Feb 2016

And lordy, the comments on facebook are just red hot. I see a lot of AA young people tagging their friends to see it.

zappaman

(20,627 posts)
91. your site went down because of all the traffic?
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 03:52 AM
Feb 2016

Wow!
That must have been some article you wrote!

Congrats!!!

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
94. Yup,
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 02:43 PM
Feb 2016

some of our local leaders (I "follow" them on FB), have been... well... a few have been not that polite.

tazkcmo

(7,419 posts)
67. I agree
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 12:29 AM
Feb 2016

and disagree. My feeling is Sec Clinton will win but not by as large a margin as before and possibly significantly less. Any ground Sen Sanders can gain keeps the total delegate count closer and there's still a lot of primary left. Just my 2 cents worth that's lost all of its value to inflation.

BillZBubb

(10,650 posts)
81. Maybe, but turning an oil tanker takes time. The SS Hillary is Yuuuge!
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 01:13 AM
Feb 2016

The effect probably won't be felt much until after Super Tuesday. Hillary is still going to win big in all the southern primaries. She'll still own the conservative states--that's her base of support.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
92. Actually it is in the OP
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 05:06 AM
Feb 2016
Ashley Williams demonstrated the power, not only of Black Lives Matter, but also individual acts of courage. With social media, a single voice can trigger an avalanche.


Given the quite is straight from the article.
 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
95. By the way, this is one of the more impressive memes
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 02:48 PM
Feb 2016

and lord knows many great ones have gone though...

:large

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
104. I get the feeling she isn't too crazy about black people. She doesn't lean back for anyone else.
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 06:17 PM
Feb 2016

I swear, in that first video, she's damn near falling over backward trying to distance herself.

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
106. Come on, everyone loves having fingers pointed in their face! The true sign of compassion.
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 06:21 PM
Feb 2016
 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
114. You are being too kind
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 07:21 PM
Feb 2016

the way some of these folks are laughing this up, tells me this is a talking point at this point. Then again I might be under estimating the level of ignorance regarding social media with older Americans. But I have a small sample of those, and a few can keep their own with the kids. So I might have a very biased sample



Oh hells bell, some are that ignorant though. But the way this became quickly a point of derision and a talking point was quite well, impressive. I wonder if this was just one of the many talking points that never made it to the twitter? This one would take ten minutes to be laughed out of there. They would not even bother with hitting the horse, let alone making into pulp.

Babel_17

(5,400 posts)
118. Do you see the narrative driving our primary as having changed?
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 08:00 PM
Feb 2016

Has there been in an increase in the general reservation towards Secretary Clinton's history, among her supporters, and the undecideds? If so, will that persist?

From where I sit, the electorate looks polarized. But I have to acknowledge that it's likely that in the later primary states a large percentage of voters are very far from being in either camp.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
119. Too early to tell
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 08:07 PM
Feb 2016

If this has any effect on Super Tuesday or tomorrow, no poll can account for it. Super Tuesday they might.

We will know soon though relatively speaking.

And as far as my state. All polling information so far has Clinton leading, but my primary is in June... so there are some NATIONAL add buys on the cables... none on local tv or radio. As far as the lcoals are concerned the primary is news reporting in the paper (some) and the tv... and that is the extent of it.

So where I can see this is on Twitter, and facebook. Some of the NON political folks I follow, and they follow me, reacting quite badly to that video. That mind you is is far from scientific. Just as the HRC supporter berating the Sanders supporter at the meat department in my supermarket before this happened.

So I agree with the writer of that piece. It will take a little time to percolate, but if we are going to see an effect it will take some folks by surprise. For the moment, peeled the curtain a tad more, and working on a piece on how social media is used in elections. 2008 was an excellent example for instance. The obama team was way ahead of the curve. This election... to be honest, nobody is doing a very good job out of it.

Babel_17

(5,400 posts)
122. Thanks ...
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 08:22 PM
Feb 2016

Yeah, I think an important question is if this will have a lasting impact on those "non political folks". Like the national election probably will, this primary shows the importance of the undecided voters, and the voters who don't reliably show up.

I don't see Sanders or Clinton as being generic candidates. And they have contrasting differences of opinion on some issues that are important to Democratic primary voters. So I think that goes to why we see a polarized electorate. And that makes doubly interesting those voters who haven't been polarized into either camp.

I'm hoping a lot of them just haven't gotten to know Senator Sanders. Needless to say, his meteoric improvement in the polls is due in part to getting himself known. I'm also hoping that if these uncommitted voters have "deal breakers" in mind, they'll break in Senator Sanders favor.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
123. Well we live in a polarized country
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 08:26 PM
Feb 2016

and it is just getting worst.

Some of it though is the we know there is corruption in DC and they are not listening to us. This IMO is a change election, like 2008 was. And if people do not get real change though the ballot box, sooner or later they will conclude the only place left is the streets.

Oilwellian

(12,647 posts)
121. My favorite photo at #whichhillary
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 08:13 PM
Feb 2016

It was captioned, "Who put Rosa Parks at the back of the H?"

So clever.

Rosa Luxemburg

(28,627 posts)
125. Hilllary is starting to be exposed
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 08:43 PM
Feb 2016

She will probably win in SC but this ongoing exposure of what she really is will deter people from supporting her in the later races.

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