It's very likely if Hillary is the nominee she will lose to Trump.

[californiabernin]

I have posted the reasons numerous times....her foreign policy failures, the fact that she's been bought, she's sold workers short on trade deals, and everything else Trump can use against her we all know all too well. He'll also say she's become "socialist" like Sanders. Biggest reason is she's establishment, and the establishment will lose this election.

With Sanders all Trump has to use against him really is "he's a socialist" and that won't go far. Not farther than the very same charge he'll hurl at Hillary. But here's the big difference: Sanders has always stood up for what he's believes, and he's not part of the establishment. He's an independent from outside the established two-party system like Trump. And only an Independent can defeat Trump.

Turnout won't save us if Hillary is the nominee. The turnout will all be on the Trump side. The voters are angry, and both Sanders and Trump channel that anger (one by turning anger into hope, the other by inflaming the anger). Hillary is exactly what the people who will be motivated to vote don't want. Sure, she will go full on negative in a way we've never seen (her campaign has said this is her strategy). Nothing positive to run on, only fear of Trump...the guy who promises the people he will "make America great again," and with nothing else to offer on the other side, the voters will believe him.

An establishment candidate like Hillary running a negative campaign in a change election (the Clinton campaign has said that is their strategy) won't work in this election. It just won't work. But it's the only viable strategy they have against Trump.

Sanders will run on trust, populism (a better kind than Trump's), integrity, and inspire the people to stand up so that real change, hard change can really happen. He can do that because he's the real deal, and voters trust him. That's the only way Trump can be defeated: by restoring hope, not fear.

[alcibiades_mystery]

1. Booooookmarkin'

[HassleCat]

2. One thing is certain

Trump will run to the right of Clinton on some issues, and to her left on other issues. It will be extremely confusing for the voters, and the media will have much fun with it.

[californiabernin]

4. Yep. That's another reason why Clinton will be a very weak candidate against him.

He'll be all over her on trade and her foreign policy blunders.

[demigoddess]

3. We gotta face it. All the factors that brought Hitler to power

are alive in the US today. We just might get Trump, because some people will poke their eyes out rather than compromise. Hillary is the devil, Bernie is satan what else is new??

[JudyM]

5. ... And this has been consistently borne out over time in the matchup polls.

Bernie has had twice her point spread with trump and he npbeats Rubio, which, while she loses to him.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/2016_presidential_race.html

Her popularity and lead is not improving and will likely take a dive as these investigations move forward.

[TheFarseer]

6. I agree in a way but there's alot of variables

In a general election, the wacky things that Trump says will not be overall beneficial like they seem to be in a primary. It will scare away casual voters as opposed to hardcore Right wingers. If he says something too wacked out, it will hurt him. Other big variable is if Clinton gets indicted, like many think could easily happen. Even if not, it will be something Trump can whack her over the head with from August to November.

I will also say, the things Hillary people swallow by the shovel-full, like she's best for black people, women, latinos, foreign policy, she can get things done and she loves puppies and your grandmother, will NOT play with most voters. Poll after poll has shown she is the least trusted candidate in the election. She's going to be painted as the corrupt corporate candidate and a socialist all at the same time. Get used to it. She will constantly be on defense.

[lunamagica]

7. Blacks, Latinos, other PoC, Muslims Jews, REAL Christians, and most women will not vote for Trump

[thesquanderer]

8. Good article on this at...

http://static.currentaffairs.org/2016/02/unless-the-democrats-nominate-sanders-a-trump-nomination-means-a-trump-presidency

and a debate between the two of them would be a disaster, as I discussed at

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511335801

[NobodyHere]

9. I think both candidates would beat trump