2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumI Did Not Hear Mika on Morning Joe Mention The TRANSCRIPTS... Did I Miss Something?
After all, Mika said previously that the transcripts were in the hands of a Print Journalist...
I wonder why Mika would not confront Hillary in person about the transcripts... given that she spoke confidently on an earlier program that said transcripts were in the possession of a print journalist that she knows?
Mika... "I know a reporter that is in possession of the actual transcripts!"
Panelist..."The Exhaustion" with the Clintons...." Mika, "The Transcripts WILL Come out..."
The People are wondering... WHY won't Hillary release the transcripts... ?
So how much of this Clintonian obfuscation is the American Democratic electorate going to tolerate?
Hillary.... Hillary... psssstttt.... PSSSSST... Bernie released his... OOOOPPS... There ain't none Hillary!
stonecutter357
(12,697 posts)azurnoir
(45,850 posts)were they hand delivered to Jonathon Capehart?
CorporatistNation
(2,546 posts)It only gets more and more pathetic... The TRANSCRIPT MEME MUST ENDURE! As well the Super predator quip as well as her poor response to Ashley... Ground and Pound!!!!
bkkyosemite
(5,792 posts)not affect her run for President (her answer was absolutely absolutely) but what I paraphrased is not correct wording.
CorporatistNation
(2,546 posts)Trump..."Nothing too hard Mika... " So much for "The Fourth Estate!" IT IS GONE ... LONGGG AGO!
THIS is what you have with a Corporatist Nation... With the Oligarchs and Corporate America in charge through a RIGGED Election Finance System. We The People are NOT in a very good position if Bernie is DENIED the Democratic Nomination.
CorporatistNation
(2,546 posts)CorporatistNation
(2,546 posts)CorporatistNation
(2,546 posts)CorporatistNation
(2,546 posts)Hillary pandering to Wall Street! That is why we need the damn TRANSCRIPTS!
angrychair
(8,698 posts)After all this stonewalling and goal post moving even if she produced something and said "see nothing, no big deal" how would we even know the difference? She could literally scribble something on a napkin and how would we know the difference?
I mean she has sole control of them and oddly no one expect a comment here or there, has come forward to say what was in her speech at this business. She is not going to hand over a document that says she is in the tank for Wall St., she will hand over what she wants us to think and there is no one to tell us different. At least not so far. Even if someone came forward to say it was a lie, would you believe them? Most would not. Especially if they dig in their past and find out they contributed to republicans.the press would tear that person apart "vetting" them as a source.
It is a "no win" situation at this point. What happened was wrong but unless video evidence pops up of an actual event, I don't think e will ever know what was really said, no matter what documents are provided.
CorporatistNation
(2,546 posts)Try and disagree with any of these defining points...
http://www.rense.com/general37/char.htm
Fourteen Defining
Characteristics Of Fascism
By Dr. Lawrence Britt
Source Free Inquiry.co
5-28-3
Dr. Lawrence Britt has examined the fascist regimes of Hitler (Germany), Mussolini (Italy), Franco (Spain), Suharto (Indonesia) and several Latin American regimes. Britt found 14 defining characteristics common to each:
1. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism - Fascist regimes tend to make constant use of patriotic mottos, slogans, symbols, songs, and other paraphernalia. Flags are seen everywhere, as are flag symbols on clothing and in public displays.
2. Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights - Because of fear of enemies and the need for security, the people in fascist regimes are persuaded that human rights can be ignored in certain cases because of "need." The people tend to look the other way or even approve of torture, summary executions, assassinations, long incarcerations of prisoners, etc.
3. Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause - The people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived common threat or foe: racial , ethnic or religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists, etc.
4. Supremacy of the Military - Even when there are widespread
domestic problems, the military is given a disproportionate amount of government funding, and the domestic agenda is neglected. Soldiers and military service are glamorized.
5. Rampant Sexism - The governments of fascist nations tend to be almost exclusively male-dominated. Under fascist regimes, traditional gender roles are made more rigid. Divorce, abortion and homosexuality are suppressed and the state is represented as the ultimate guardian of the family institution.
6. Controlled Mass Media - Sometimes to media is directly controlled by the government, but in other cases, the media is indirectly controlled by government regulation, or sympathetic media spokespeople and executives. Censorship, especially in war time, is very common.
7. Obsession with National Security - Fear is used as a motivational tool by the government over the masses.
8. Religion and Government are Intertwined - Governments in fascist nations tend to use the most common religion in the nation as a tool to manipulate public opinion. Religious rhetoric and terminology is common from government leaders, even when the major tenets of the religion are diametrically opposed to the government's policies or actions.
9. Corporate Power is Protected - The industrial and business aristocracy of a fascist nation often are the ones who put the government leaders into power, creating a mutually beneficial business/government relationship and power elite.
10. Labor Power is Suppressed - Because the organizing power of labor is the only real threat to a fascist government, labor unions are either eliminated entirely, or are severely suppressed.
11. Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts - Fascist nations tend to promote and tolerate open hostility to higher education, and academia. It is not uncommon for professors and other academics to be censored or even arrested. Free expression in the arts and letters is openly attacked.
12. Obsession with Crime and Punishment - Under fascist regimes, the police are given almost limitless power to enforce laws. The people are often willing to overlook police abuses and even forego civil liberties in the name of patriotism. There is often a national police force with virtually unlimited power in fascist nations.
13. Rampant Cronyism and Corruption - Fascist regimes almost always are governed by groups of friends and associates who appoint each other to government positions and use governmental power and authority to protect their friends from accountability. It is not uncommon in fascist regimes for national resources and even treasures to be appropriated or even outright stolen by government leaders.
14. Fraudulent Elections - Sometimes elections in fascist nations are a complete sham. Other times elections are manipulated by smear campaigns against or even assassination of opposition candidates, use of legislation to control voting numbers or political district boundaries, and manipulation of the media. Fascist nations also typically use their judiciaries to manipulate or control elections.
angrychair
(8,698 posts)I agree completely.
NWCorona
(8,541 posts)That's the problem Hillary is facing. I do believe there's copies of transcripts or audio recordings that are in the hands of the other side. If Hillary tries to alter the record in any way it would be released in a heartbeat.
CorporatistNation
(2,546 posts)Primary! IF people care enough to pay attention...
angrychair
(8,698 posts)Because that would be the only way. Otherwise, it will be trashed.
NWCorona
(8,541 posts)But to think that
1. Republicans didn't learn from Romney's 47% moment
2. That there wouldn't be any Republicans in Hillary's audience's cognizant of the moment ready to record
Would be foolish.