Why is Bernie struggling to attract women?

[Cali_Democrat]

The latest Quinnipiac poll shows him trailing among women.....69% 24% in Florida.

That is massive.

http://www.quinnipiac.edu/news-and-events/quinnipiac-university-poll/florida/release-detail?ReleaseID=2328

[JanetLovesObama]

1. Because strong, intelligent women

see right through his pipe dreams.

[WillyT]

2. Ironic...

[Go Vols]

29. lol

[redstateblues]

37. Hey Go Vols-I sure miss Carl P

[Go Vols]

40. Seems like a lifetime ago

Good times were had tho while listening to KDF and Carl P Mayfield.

[KPN]

8. That fits my wife

... but she's voting for Bernie not Hillary ... and she adamantly tells me she won't vote for Hillary in the GE no less. "Why?" I asked her. "Because she says whatever she thinks will get her elected and always has."

[datguy_6]

19. Or they sexist...and are only supporting Clinton because she is a womam

Polling would suggest this as women 45+ are her strongest supporters...

[Bryce Butler]

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Or they sexist...and are only supporting Clinton because she is a womam
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1346817

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[beam me up scottie]

23. Really? The vast majority of women on DU support Bernie.

Are we weak and stupid?

[hobbit709]

44. I guess just about all the strong, intelligent women I know are faking those qualities.

[EndElectoral]

3. Because many women, not all, really want to see a woman president.

[all american girl]

10. Because women can't decide on there own....right

Sorry, but that's just rude.

[datguy_6]

20. No, because they are sexist

And are overlooking obvious things like her character and record of accomplishing anything other holding out her hand to get paid...

[all american girl]

21. No, I'm not over looking anything....I'm in form.... much to your chargin

[datguy_6]

22. So what would tip the balance one way or the other?

In terms of your support?

[all american girl]

32. I love both, but I have decided, for me, in the primary why I like her better.

And I decided for only for me, but when it comes to the general, I will vote...and I will vote for the person who won. See, i like both, but who I voted for the primary is only for me and no one else. When it comes to the general I will vote for the democrat, because that is who I am.

[NurseJackie]

4. Zipping my lips and biting my tongue! (Ouch!)

[Agnosticsherbet]

26. LOL

[Nonhlanhla]

14. WTF?????!!!!! nt.

[NurseJackie]

33. I know! It's VERY DISTURBING.

[Nonhlanhla]

42. OK, so I went and read the whole essay

(or at least as much as I could find). So I'm going to try to be as fair to him as I've asked Bernie supporters to be fair to Hillary regarding the superpredators thing.

Bernie is clearly arguing for a change in gender roles, and not advocating misogyny, although the scenarios he describes are disturbingly misogynist. I nevertheless find the essay rather badly written, and some aspects still disturbing: not so much the above quoted sections, but the section where he writes about men and women hating each other. Overall, I do NOT like the way he wrote the essay, but I'm inclined to believe that he had good intentions.

[bettyellen]

17. No wonder why Camille Paglia loves him so.

[beam me up scottie]

24. Oh please, it was an essay on gender stereotypes.

The only people who clutched their pearls over it are right wing troglodytes like the ones at youngcons.

No intelligent adult woman is going to read the essay and think it's about fantasies.

[ebayfool]

36. Jury results:

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This is smear, no link or source just cherry picking quotes to make it look like Sen Sanders is a misogynist.

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[beam me up scottie]

39. Good jury!

That kind of Rovian/Brockian tactic has no place here. Bernie is and has always been a true feminist.

[phleshdef]

25. Why don't you post the whole thing instead of perpetuating a dishonest meme?

It was an article encouraging society to embrace the changing roles of women. It was pretty shitty writing but its not what you are making it out to be and you know it.

[yawnmaster]

41. The entire essay with discussion can be found here...

http://www.snopes.com/bernie-sanders-essay/

[PonyUp]

6. His hair? n/t

[Orsino]

7. He doesn't appear to be struggling.

But if this is a seal-the-deal gloat, you should consider what such a poll would have shown last summer and last fall.

There's good reason, as far as I'm concerned, for women (and men) to default their support to the first woman with a real shot at the presidency. That Sanders has won support away from the Inevitable is a testimony to the value of his message. That's not an indictment of Clinton, depending on one's point of view, so you can relax; it's just what a primary is supposed to look like.

[djean111]

9. Funny, I am a woman, live in Florida, and I will be voting for Bernie, and so will my sister

and all of my friends.....I would be just as happy to vote for Liz Warren, by the way.

[Cali_Democrat]

13. You are part of the 24% then. bt

[phleshdef]

27. My wife and my grandmother are both supporting him here in Ohio.

[myrna minx]

11. All the women I know are voting for Bernie.

[Cali_Democrat]

12. Sure.....but "the women I know" doesn't constitute a scientific poll. nt

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

16. There are no facts, only interpretations. Friedrich Nietzsche

[redstateblues]

46. Everybody I knew at the time voted for McGovern

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

15. I guess that depends on the women in question.

My wife is a woman who will vote for Bernie. She won't vote for Hillary.

[RonnyK]

18. First of all, referring to "women" as some sort of homogeneous group is insulting and/or naive

Women vote all sorts of ways. Not all women, even if they should, vote for reproductive freedom, for example. And guess what? Women are different ages! And ethnicities! and socioeconomic statuses! Toss in the fact that it's Florida, and a better question might be why don't more RICH OLDER WOMEN go for Bernie? Well duh.

Another boring pointless exercise in cherry picking a stupid poll. Golfclap.

[still_one]

28. I will hold my tongue

[grntuscarora]

30. He's not.

At least, not the women I know.

One Florida poll does not a national trend make.

[BlueMTexpat]

31. But "the women you know" do?

Hmmm

[grntuscarora]

34. He's. not. struggling. with. the. women. I. know.

Clearer now?
Grow up.

[BlueMTexpat]

35. LOL - you certainly implied

that the women you know - rather than a scientific poll - constitute a national trend.

But whatever. Buh-bye!

[grntuscarora]

38. Florida does not constitute a national trend either.

Buh-bye - lol

[Enrique]

43. they're afraid of Madeleine Albright's curse

[jfern]

45. Bernie does great with young women, but Florida voters tend to skew old