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Waiting For Everyman

(9,385 posts)
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 05:08 PM Feb 2016

NEW VIDEO from BLM activist Ashley Williams is MUST SEE

Just tweeted from Ashley Williams 3 hours ago: she said...

ashley williams ‏@Ash_Bash23 3h
Please watch and share this video that drives home what we've been talking about! #WhichHillary






OMG, this video has it all, the whole story of Hillary's involveent in the Crime Bill, in video clips. It next covers her "work" for children. Then covers her use of race to her own advantage in the 2008 election. It's brought up to today, with her standing by Rahm Emanuel and the recent shooting protests, ending with a clip from Ashley Williams' own protest at HRC's private fundraiser the other day. This all in Hillary's own words and clips from the time. Posted just today. YOU MUST SEE THIS!
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NEW VIDEO from BLM activist Ashley Williams is MUST SEE (Original Post) Waiting For Everyman Feb 2016 OP
Tough stuff. Reality is tough, I dont like this but I accept it. But who needs to see this? Jackie Wilson Said Feb 2016 #1
Black activists are circulating it through the black community Waiting For Everyman Feb 2016 #10
Oh thank God. senz Feb 2016 #24
They, and she, sure could save us all. Waiting For Everyman Feb 2016 #27
Are you talking about *this* BLM? brer cat Feb 2016 #31
Yes, and I stand by both statements. You think that's a "gotcha"? Waiting For Everyman Feb 2016 #33
... brer cat Feb 2016 #44
????? ismnotwasm Feb 2016 #48
MLK called from 1963... tonedevil Feb 2016 #39
Spot on tonedevil! monicaangela Feb 2016 #72
What an awesome statement! eom passiveporcupine Feb 2016 #131
PLUS E9!!!!!!! MrMickeysMom Feb 2016 #158
Somebody get some Saran Wrap for this thread. Looks like Brer Cat is taking it home Number23 Feb 2016 #107
She was very effective answering questions this morning from Tamron Hall lostnfound Feb 2016 #159
So people voting for who they want to... Agschmid Feb 2016 #96
I do to an extent and I think everyone on this board does too, white_wolf Feb 2016 #148
Again, the presidency was stolen for GWB twice. Unknown Beatle Feb 2016 #180
So it was posted here by a black person who wants other black people to see it? Jackie Wilson Said Feb 2016 #46
Posted on Twitter by a black person who asked that it be circulated. Waiting For Everyman Feb 2016 #53
So brought to DU by a white person, with the intention of educating white people? Or......... ... . Jackie Wilson Said Feb 2016 #64
Brought by an anonymous internet poster becasue it's news. Gore1FL Feb 2016 #69
As the father of bi-racial children, I'm just aghast at this conversation. Akicita Feb 2016 #73
Thank you! I can't think of a more disgusting topic...who posted and how much melanin do they have. haikugal Feb 2016 #81
+1,000,000!!! cui bono Feb 2016 #167
Well, back to the issue. Is there anything in the video you dispute? Attacking messengers is so sabrina 1 Feb 2016 #76
As a white person I would never presume to tell POC who they should vote for or why. Jackie Wilson Said Feb 2016 #78
As a citizen I have the right and so do we all, not to be lied to by those asking for our votes. IF sabrina 1 Feb 2016 #88
Has NOTHING to do with Ashley and you know it. Ashley didnt post that on DU....grrrr Jackie Wilson Said Feb 2016 #89
What a terrible thing to say. You judge the MOTIVE of people you do not know. That could be sabrina 1 Feb 2016 #91
Why not? Aren't you an American? Aren't the POC you would try to convince Americans? Akicita Feb 2016 #90
OH my god. You folks have gone off the deep end, not one but two of you alleging I am the Jackie Wilson Said Feb 2016 #94
You said you would not presume to tell a POC how to vote. Akicita Feb 2016 #97
So funny! Matariki Feb 2016 #101
Why do you assume that video is made or posted to tell black people how to vote? Matariki Feb 2016 #99
Shouldn't all people, regardless of color, have access passiveporcupine Feb 2016 #132
Maybe we have friends who haven't made up their minds??? lostnfound Feb 2016 #160
As a white person I would never presume to tell POC who they should vote for or why. sulphurdunn Feb 2016 #170
Why must the poster be black? Politicalboi Feb 2016 #179
Hopefully FangedNoumenom Feb 2016 #20
I fear you missed the point. Jackie Wilson Said Feb 2016 #47
Oh FangedNoumenom Feb 2016 #52
Let's not forget this further exposition, about the other disses to MLK, Jessie Jackson, etc. TheBlackAdder Feb 2016 #63
Oh Keith FangedNoumenom Feb 2016 #68
We sure do miss that guy! nt Duval Feb 2016 #79
This message was self-deleted by its author Duval Feb 2016 #80
No, partisans will not change their minds, they are part of the problem. But today eg, three women sabrina 1 Feb 2016 #122
It's people of color that need to take a harder saidsimplesimon Feb 2016 #168
K&R kgnu_fan Feb 2016 #2
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Feb 2016 #3
You're welcome, Uncle Joe! :) Waiting For Everyman Feb 2016 #137
K & R! TIME TO PANIC Feb 2016 #4
She's a shape-shifting LIAR. Should never hold power again... AzDar Feb 2016 #5
This message was self-deleted by its author hack89 Feb 2016 #11
Want to bet about what? AzDar Feb 2016 #15
Misread your post. Sorry. Nt hack89 Feb 2016 #18
She really, really, really is. senz Feb 2016 #25
From your lips to God's ear, AzDar farleftlib Feb 2016 #85
she is! nt m-lekktor Feb 2016 #154
Jesus, I forgot about Farrakhan and Hamas. Wright-Farrakhan-Hamas-Obama. What utter crock of shit. thereismore Feb 2016 #6
It Always Astounded Me SDJay Feb 2016 #26
Frank Luntz used to pride himself on his ability to scramble logic. senz Feb 2016 #32
same way Clinton can condemn Farrakhan and then use his tactics MisterP Feb 2016 #67
"I really wish Hillary would rid herself of these dirtbags. They don't do her any favors." That Guy 888 Feb 2016 #139
KnR - Hillary seems always to be running away from her past actions & statements. nt 99th_Monkey Feb 2016 #7
Hillary doesn't run, she "evolves". BillZBubb Feb 2016 #34
Well, yes .. so much more 'refined'. nt 99th_Monkey Feb 2016 #66
Can one evolve back and forth? lob1 Feb 2016 #146
The liars and sycophants will be working overtime this weekend. arcane1 Feb 2016 #8
They've been working overtime for months. BillZBubb Feb 2016 #36
Food for thought Fairgo Feb 2016 #9
It's a wrap NWCorona Feb 2016 #12
K&R Nanjeanne Feb 2016 #13
I hadn't watched the latest video from the fundraiser... demmiblue Feb 2016 #14
She let them treat her like a criminal loyalsister Feb 2016 #75
Ashley Williams captures Hillary's real attitude toward AAs. senz Feb 2016 #16
More selectively edited propaganda from anonymous sources MaggieD Feb 2016 #17
I disagree obviously NWCorona Feb 2016 #23
Video footage, nearly all from news media. Familiar footage at that. senz Feb 2016 #37
Edited footage MaggieD Feb 2016 #41
All "clips" are technically "edited" b/c shortened. Not falsified. senz Feb 2016 #49
And also falsified MaggieD Feb 2016 #55
Prove it. senz Feb 2016 #56
Oh! I love this part. retrowire Feb 2016 #62
It seems to happen every day. nt Duval Feb 2016 #82
On Twitter, they just block you NWCorona Feb 2016 #125
#CapehartBlockParty Matariki Feb 2016 #144
*cricket* JonLeibowitz Feb 2016 #127
Well the first one I see is near the beginning.... MaggieD Feb 2016 #169
how can HRC's words and history heaven05 Feb 2016 #165
Breitbart, is that you? Pretty soon there will be a video refuting all these sliced and diced clips Jitter65 Feb 2016 #174
Lifelong Democrat here. Am sure Ms. Williams isn't Breitbart either. senz Feb 2016 #176
And don't be trashing BLM for criticizing Hill. senz Feb 2016 #177
Maggie, you wouldn't believe the truth about Hillary if it hit you in the head. BillZBubb Feb 2016 #43
Nor would you MaggieD Feb 2016 #45
You were WRONG about Hillary and super predators. You are wrong about this video too. BillZBubb Feb 2016 #50
Nope, I was not wrong at all MaggieD Feb 2016 #54
You perfectly portray one who has their hands over their ears whilst shouting retrowire Feb 2016 #60
Probably wearing this attire: BeanMusical Feb 2016 #117
Why bother? Matariki Feb 2016 #145
Calling Ms Williams a liar huh? retrowire Feb 2016 #59
She didn't create the video MaggieD Feb 2016 #105
But she believes the video. retrowire Feb 2016 #112
So what? She was in diapers back then MaggieD Feb 2016 #114
Hillary having one opinion at one time and then a different later retrowire Feb 2016 #147
Ashley Williams is anonymouse? nt grasswire Feb 2016 #103
She didn't create the video MaggieD Feb 2016 #104
so you only trust any video if you know the videographer?? grasswire Feb 2016 #106
I don't trust it if it's anonymous MaggieD Feb 2016 #109
"anonymous sources"... They're called video cameras whatchamacallit Feb 2016 #108
Edited bullshit interspersed with editorial MaggieD Feb 2016 #115
These are things she said whatchamacallit Feb 2016 #116
No they aren't - clearly you didn't even watch it MaggieD Feb 2016 #126
The parts where she was on screen sure were whatchamacallit Feb 2016 #135
Yes, waaayyy out of context. When BLM is called on the kind smearing they are doing folks will Jitter65 Feb 2016 #175
Your loyality is admirable, but she is not a friend of the 99%. Rationalize away, but she rhett o rick Feb 2016 #119
Aren't you the 1% though? MaggieD Feb 2016 #123
Not sure what your point is. I am definitely not in the 1% wealthiest of Americans. rhett o rick Feb 2016 #140
You know what my point is MaggieD Feb 2016 #143
You choose to side with the Clintons, Citibank, Goldman-Sachs and Wall Street. rhett o rick Feb 2016 #173
Well that explain a lot. Bobbie Jo Feb 2016 #157
Well, she apparently isn't the only one with money BainsBane Feb 2016 #129
LOL - crazy huh? MaggieD Feb 2016 #133
Never BainsBane Feb 2016 #134
LMAO!! MaggieD Feb 2016 #136
This message was self-deleted by its author rbrnmw Feb 2016 #149
What happened -- did you just look in the mirror? n/t brentspeak Feb 2016 #164
I've seen this video now all over Social Media. Unfortunately I believe the corrupt system sabrina 1 Feb 2016 #19
Are you sure you've seen THIS video -- it's new today? Waiting For Everyman Feb 2016 #29
Let me look again. I have seen the compilation of the history of the Clintons' relationship with sabrina 1 Feb 2016 #71
K&R libtodeath Feb 2016 #21
Wow..powerful! insta8er Feb 2016 #22
This isn't going away Cassiopeia Feb 2016 #28
The fact that she read the words on the sign speaks volumes. n/t Skwmom Feb 2016 #30
KICK,.KICK,..KICK! Segami Feb 2016 #35
Kick artislife Feb 2016 #38
kick krawhitham Feb 2016 #40
HUGE K & R !!! - THANK YOU !!! WillyT Feb 2016 #42
Very well done Oilwellian Feb 2016 #51
Kick azmom Feb 2016 #57
Did she really say it matters who candidates associate with???? AlbertCat Feb 2016 #58
It boggles my mind that she was given a pass after the '08 primary me b zola Feb 2016 #61
kick Agony Feb 2016 #65
K&R yuiyoshida Feb 2016 #70
K&R Little_Wing Feb 2016 #74
Tweeted! peacebird Feb 2016 #77
Kick, Baby, Kick! jalan48 Feb 2016 #83
Kicked and recommended. nt Duval Feb 2016 #84
Reminds me of Michael Moore docs when he still had the gift PatrynXX Feb 2016 #86
Kicking for the painful truth. n/t farleftlib Feb 2016 #87
Keep spreading the truth BostonBob Feb 2016 #92
God damn! That nails it! TM99 Feb 2016 #93
I've been asking for ages...WTH has she truly done for people of color??? SoapBox Feb 2016 #95
Not that much really Rosa Luxemburg Feb 2016 #111
Hillary did a graduate course internship with Children's Defense Fund Geronimoe Feb 2016 #141
Well done, effective and damning K&R whatchamacallit Feb 2016 #98
Hillary has the history of throwing black people and other minorities under the bus... backscatter712 Feb 2016 #100
K & R AzDar Feb 2016 #102
This video has the Jack Rabbit stamp of approval Jack Rabbit Feb 2016 #110
Cute. 840high Feb 2016 #113
Kick and R BeanMusical Feb 2016 #118
Too many crawling bug sig lines in this post. Leaving. cheapdate Feb 2016 #120
I like the crawling bug. To me, it has positive significance. delrem Feb 2016 #152
It's a visceral thing for me. The bugs make me uneasy. cheapdate Feb 2016 #155
This SHOULD Matter To So Many Blinded By Who Hillary Really Is, BUT ChiciB1 Feb 2016 #121
KICK!!! Raster Feb 2016 #124
K&R, Thanks for the thread. n/t JonLeibowitz Feb 2016 #128
Very welcome, JL! nt Waiting For Everyman Feb 2016 #138
K&R TheFarS1de Feb 2016 #130
If Hillary wins in Illinois after her support for Rahm, knowing what we know now about his coverup jillan Feb 2016 #142
i don't know how the primary in illinois will go but questionseverything Feb 2016 #172
Now that's a powerful vid. delrem Feb 2016 #150
Kick and recommended. Major Hogwash Feb 2016 #151
Excellent video. Ashley Williams is an incredible young woman. nt. polly7 Feb 2016 #153
K&R Very brave to take on a room of hissing super predators. nt raouldukelives Feb 2016 #156
Wow, some real talent went into that, powerful. braddy Feb 2016 #161
"BLM activist" ? No, label this woman for what she really is; Tarc Feb 2016 #162
Don't you know you're supposed to be "Ready for Hillary"? Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2016 #163
That is a great video, very well done. cui bono Feb 2016 #166
edited video tells you what you want to hear Horus T Light Feb 2016 #171
Very powerful (nt) CoffeeCat Feb 2016 #178

Jackie Wilson Said

(4,176 posts)
1. Tough stuff. Reality is tough, I dont like this but I accept it. But who needs to see this?
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 05:13 PM
Feb 2016

Are there white people on DU who will change their minds about Hillary after seeing this?

Waiting For Everyman

(9,385 posts)
10. Black activists are circulating it through the black community
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 05:26 PM
Feb 2016

to inform those who don't know about Hillary's past, regarding issues that matter to them. The older black leaders are pretending none of this ever happened. That's why I think the use of film clips is so effective.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
24. Oh thank God.
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 05:35 PM
Feb 2016

Last edited Fri Feb 26, 2016, 08:25 PM - Edit history (1)

I was afraid AAs were making a terrible mistake.

Millennials like Ashley Williams could save us all.

Note to jury: I believe everyone should have as much information as possible before making the decision of who to choose for president. For this reason, I applaud Ashley Williams, a young African American member of the BLM movement, for gathering video footage of Hillary Clinton that not everyone may have seen until today. Now, hopefully, voters will have more information at their disposal when they go into the voting booth.

Clearly, this is what Ms. Williams intended when she made this excellent video.

Waiting For Everyman

(9,385 posts)
27. They, and she, sure could save us all.
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 05:44 PM
Feb 2016

Ashley also tweeted about a follow up article on her protest in the Charlotte Observers (North Carolina). According to that article she is a student there:

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/politics-government/article62672712.html

I said earlier, I think she deserves an A+ in protesting skills.

brer cat

(27,588 posts)
31. Are you talking about *this* BLM?
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 06:01 PM
Feb 2016
They shouted slanderous lies at the crowd.

Lies, is that how to build a successful movement? What reaction did they expect?

They called a crowd of white progressives / liberals, "white supremacist liberals". That is not accurate, that is a lie -- an ugly, nasty, slanderous lie at that.

I was 13 when MLK gave his "I have a dream" speech, and I followed all the events in the years afterward. I don't remember him ever shouting lies at a crowd. If you look at film of the 1963 March on Washington crowd, there are a LOT of whites there (roughly 20%). He didn't tell them to shut up and they're part of the problem.

What he did do, is describe a better society, and lead concrete steps toward achieving it. That inspired people, and they followed of all colors. It's the "vision thing", that's what is entirely lacking here. People are motivated by that, not by being berated, and having their past efforts for equality whatever they may be, counted for absolutely nothing.

Wouldn't the natural impulse be to say to themselves after that, fine do it yourself then. What is so surprising about that? If that's the end BLM is trying to achieve, the Seattle Two are doing a good job of it.

They aren't demonstrating to me that Black Lives Matter to them, because they're doing everything they can to strip away the only white allies they have. That tells me they don't really care about effecting any change, regardless of their words. People encouraging this are encouraging that same failure, so how much do they really care as well?

I see it as an attempted psychological manipulation game, and not much more. I don't see it preventing one police shooting. Not now, not ever.


QUOTED VERBATIM FROM THE JOURNAL OF DUER WAITING FOR EVERYMAN August 15, 2015 who now thinks "They, and she, sure could save us all."

Waiting For Everyman

(9,385 posts)
33. Yes, and I stand by both statements. You think that's a "gotcha"?
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 06:06 PM
Feb 2016

I praise what's worthy of it and criticize what's worthy of that. As I always do. This shouldn't need a road map, it's common sense.

I think the two BLM actions could be a text-book study in what to do and what not to do, and why. The contrast couldn't be more complete.

 

tonedevil

(3,022 posts)
39. MLK called from 1963...
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 06:11 PM
Feb 2016

and wanted you to read this:

"First, I must confess that over the last few years I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in the stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Council-er or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate who is more devoted to "order" than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says "I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I can't agree with your methods of direct action;" who paternalistically feels he can set the timetable for another man's freedom; who lives by the myth of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait until a "more convenient season."

MrMickeysMom

(20,453 posts)
158. PLUS E9!!!!!!!
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 10:32 AM
Feb 2016

Saves me from writing all those 0's...

I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in the stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Council-er or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate who is more devoted to "order" than to justice;


IOW... this "bring them to heel" business, which is what Clinton was nodding to in a cryptic manner. Of THIS, there is NO DEFENSE.

Number23

(24,544 posts)
107. Somebody get some Saran Wrap for this thread. Looks like Brer Cat is taking it home
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 08:31 PM
Feb 2016


But please don't try to do this with all of these folks whooping and hollering over BLM now. Highlighting their two faced hypocrisy and dishonesty would be a full time job and I know you have better things to do.

lostnfound

(17,520 posts)
159. She was very effective answering questions this morning from Tamron Hall
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 12:32 PM
Feb 2016

answering questions this morning On tv

white_wolf

(6,257 posts)
148. I do to an extent and I think everyone on this board does too,
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 04:13 AM
Feb 2016

I think the fools who voted George W. Bush into office twice made a huge mistake. I think the voters who gave us a Republican controlled congress made a huge mistake. And yes, I think those voting for Hillary are making a mistake. It doesn't make them stupid or uninformed. It just means that I feel they are voting for a candidate who won't do much to help them in the same way I think Republicans have been voting against their own interests.

Unknown Beatle

(2,691 posts)
180. Again, the presidency was stolen for GWB twice.
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 09:03 PM
Feb 2016

And a lot of the congresscritters, governors, and other state officials are there because they too had the election stolen for them.

I'm glad Scalia is gone before he further damaged this country, like stealing elections for his pals the republicans, well, one election, but that decision came at great cost to tens of millions of people.

Jackie Wilson Said

(4,176 posts)
64. So brought to DU by a white person, with the intention of educating white people? Or......... ... .
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 06:39 PM
Feb 2016

You tell me, I dont know who originally posted it here and who they were educating.

Gore1FL

(22,951 posts)
69. Brought by an anonymous internet poster becasue it's news.
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 06:52 PM
Feb 2016

I searched the rules, and I found that there are none about people posting things written/created by those of other races.

Are you suggesting an African American's points are not worthy if someone suspected of being white shares it?

Akicita

(1,196 posts)
73. As the father of bi-racial children, I'm just aghast at this conversation.
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 07:10 PM
Feb 2016

Who the hell cares what the melanin content of the poster is or the melanin content of the target audience. The truthful information provided by the poster is important to all well meaning people to better make a voting decision no matter what their color is and I applaud the poster, no matter what their melanin content, for posting it here.

haikugal

(6,476 posts)
81. Thank you! I can't think of a more disgusting topic...who posted and how much melanin do they have.
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 07:21 PM
Feb 2016

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
167. +1,000,000!!!
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 02:18 PM
Feb 2016

Thank you. So sick of people fomenting this false racial divide just to promote/defend a candidate.

Stick to providing information and standing up for ethical and moral principles and then run with it.

.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
76. Well, back to the issue. Is there anything in the video you dispute? Attacking messengers is so
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 07:14 PM
Feb 2016

decades ago. Not a good way to deal with things that are presented. A better way is to make a good argument against the CONTENT.

Jackie Wilson Said

(4,176 posts)
78. As a white person I would never presume to tell POC who they should vote for or why.
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 07:18 PM
Feb 2016

The only reason I can see for this to be posted on this forum is to hope black people see it and especially black people who "dont have all the information yet".


Dont you? Dont you think that is why it is done here? Dont you think many many white Bernie supporters on DU believe many black supporters on DU dont have the information yet?

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
88. As a citizen I have the right and so do we all, not to be lied to by those asking for our votes. IF
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 07:34 PM
Feb 2016

you support the rights of ALL Americans, why on earth would you say 'as a White person I wouldn't tell a Black person who to vote for'?? You should not TELL anyone who to vote for!

Why the singling out of Black people?

But as a citizen, Black or White, who wants the best for this country you would surely want ALL voters to have as much information as possible so they can cast their votes based on FACTs, not on campaign rhetoric.

Your reasoning makes zero sense to me whatsoever.

How is providing information that a young woman who happens to be AA, wants people to have, 'telling Black People who to vote for'??? Where is the logic in that?

Would you deprive Black people from having all the information they need in order to make the best decision possible for THIS COUNTRY? Because that is what your answer sounds like to me. 'Let's not provide this information in case some Black people here see it'. Trust me, DU has little influence over what Black people. THEY are the people posting this information all over Social Media.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
91. What a terrible thing to say. You judge the MOTIVE of people you do not know. That could be
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 07:46 PM
Feb 2016

projection, perhaps when you post something it is with an agenda? Do you know 'Ashley' personally? Clearly she released this information on Social Media because she wants people to see it, but you do not wish to help her.

Fine, I do because I support and always have the Civil Rights of ALL Americans.

What I get from this conversation is that your real issue is not 'Ashley' or the issues facing AAs it is to try to protect a CANDIDATE, a politician.

Well, keeping it off DU won't do that. 'Ashley' and a growing number of very prominent as well as not so prominent people, Black and White are making sure the information gets to as many voters as possible, as it should

Akicita

(1,196 posts)
90. Why not? Aren't you an American? Aren't the POC you would try to convince Americans?
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 07:41 PM
Feb 2016

Why would you not try to convince someone on a political position because of their skin pigmentation? Are you racist? I don't get it.

Jackie Wilson Said

(4,176 posts)
94. OH my god. You folks have gone off the deep end, not one but two of you alleging I am the
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 07:47 PM
Feb 2016

racist.

wow...this is one for the books.

I wont engage with this level of dishonesty for one more minute.

Sick.

Akicita

(1,196 posts)
97. You said you would not presume to tell a POC how to vote.
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 07:52 PM
Feb 2016

So if you were phone banking for Bernie or Hillary, would you first ascertain the skin color of each person you called, and if they are not lily white, transfer the call to a phone banker of the proper race? That would be sick in my opinion. I guess if they were of mixed race you would have to have a group conversation.

You are wrong sir(or madam). Let the white guilt go. We are all in this together. You can campaign and try to convince people of any race to vote for your candidate. We're all Americans. It's ok.

If you got to know some POC, you would probably realize that you have much more in common on issues and in general than you think.

Matariki

(18,775 posts)
101. So funny!
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 08:00 PM
Feb 2016

Next political call I get I'm going to demand a scotch-irish chinese german jewish quorum. Or no talk!

Matariki

(18,775 posts)
99. Why do you assume that video is made or posted to tell black people how to vote?
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 07:55 PM
Feb 2016

Anyone who cares about racial justice should see that.

passiveporcupine

(8,175 posts)
132. Shouldn't all people, regardless of color, have access
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 11:39 PM
Feb 2016

to all the information out there concerning the candidates, so they can make their own informed decisions about whom to support?

Are you saying that information or truth should be silenced because the audience might not be able to tall truth from fiction?

lostnfound

(17,520 posts)
160. Maybe we have friends who haven't made up their minds???
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 12:35 PM
Feb 2016

I know I do.
Friends who have asked my thoughts on the election. Friends who might be interested in this.

 

sulphurdunn

(6,891 posts)
170. As a white person I would never presume to tell POC who they should vote for or why.
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 03:52 PM
Feb 2016

I would. Dear POC, vote for Sanders! Thank you.

 

Politicalboi

(15,189 posts)
179. Why must the poster be black?
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 06:30 PM
Feb 2016

Isn't racism everybody's concern? If this doesn't educate you then it's hopeless. But that's typical of the supporters of the Queen. Let's not look back unless it's good Hillary. Racist Hillary is a NO NO. Must not look or acknowledge, "on with the issues".

 

FangedNoumenom

(145 posts)
20. Hopefully
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 05:33 PM
Feb 2016
who will change their minds about Hillary after seeing this?


Anyone who is honest with themselves.
 

FangedNoumenom

(145 posts)
52. Oh
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 06:17 PM
Feb 2016

So you're saying this place is full of sycophants that refuse to be ethically and intellectually honest with themselves?

That's too bad.

TheBlackAdder

(29,981 posts)
63. Let's not forget this further exposition, about the other disses to MLK, Jessie Jackson, etc.
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 06:39 PM
Feb 2016

.


The really good screwing over happens at the 7 minute mark, MLK, Jesie Jackson, Rev. Wright, Obama...





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Response to Duval (Reply #79)

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
122. No, partisans will not change their minds, they are part of the problem. But today eg, three women
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 10:19 PM
Feb 2016

who had no knowledge of this history, did change their minds, that I personally know of. People don't like to be deceived. And when they feel they have been, they are often very angry at those who deceived them.

Most people are not political operatives who approach elections as team sports. Most people are serious about elections being about ISSUES that matter to them.

DU partisans in no way represent a majority of Americans.

It says a lot about a person how they react to FACTS and pretty much tells you if you are talking to a regular person or someone with an agenda.

What changed me from being a Clinton supporter was her vote on the Iraq War, to begin with. Then learning of their close relationship with the Bushes, which at first I doubted but once it became clear it was the truth, that ended my support for them.

saidsimplesimon

(7,888 posts)
168. It's people of color that need to take a harder
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 02:21 PM
Feb 2016

look at supporting Madame Fmr. Secty. Clinton. If she wins the nomination those of color can take credit, or blame for the "incremental" justice of the Clintons. imho

Waiting For Everyman

(9,385 posts)
137. You're welcome, Uncle Joe! :)
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 12:25 AM
Feb 2016

Thanks for helping it get noticed with an early thread kick. Much appreciated!

Response to AzDar (Reply #5)

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
25. She really, really, really is.
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 05:37 PM
Feb 2016

I don't know how she ended up like that, but it's horrible to witness.

 

farleftlib

(2,125 posts)
85. From your lips to God's ear, AzDar
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 07:27 PM
Feb 2016

I wish the Clintons would just go away and take their lies, scandals and schemes with them.

thereismore

(13,326 posts)
6. Jesus, I forgot about Farrakhan and Hamas. Wright-Farrakhan-Hamas-Obama. What utter crock of shit.
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 05:19 PM
Feb 2016

Excuse me while I

SDJay

(1,089 posts)
26. It Always Astounded Me
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 05:38 PM
Feb 2016

How HRC and then the repukes could assert Obama's ties to Reverend Wright at the SAME TIME as asserting he was a Muslim. Really? Was Reverend Wright a Muslim? No? How many Muslims do you see at your Christian service every week?

It was so incredibly and nauseatingly cynical that it didn't even matter to them that what they were attempting in these smears was a complete logical fallacy. As long as enough rubes out there believed one, the other or both, it was worth the effort.

I had forgotten about Farrakhan and Hamas as well. I do remember Reverend Wright and the "whispers" about Islam that came about right around that time the darkened photo of Obama was released.

Disgusting. No tactic is too low for some folks.

I wonder what that scumbag David Brock has in store if SBS continues on this unlikely march.

I really wish Hillary would rid herself of these dirtbags. They don't do her any favors.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
32. Frank Luntz used to pride himself on his ability to scramble logic.
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 06:05 PM
Feb 2016

Luntz went to work for the Republicans 15-20 years ago as they perfected the art of jumbling people's reasoning ability.

It takes tremendous cynicism. As we saw in 2008, Hillary has no problem with it.

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
67. same way Clinton can condemn Farrakhan and then use his tactics
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 06:49 PM
Feb 2016

it's the panpipe of dogwhistles!

 

That Guy 888

(1,214 posts)
139. "I really wish Hillary would rid herself of these dirtbags. They don't do her any favors."
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 12:41 AM
Feb 2016

I was excited the first time she ran, until I saw how her campaign was run.

At this point it must be that she won't rid herself of those dirtbags because she doesn't want to.

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
8. The liars and sycophants will be working overtime this weekend.
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 05:23 PM
Feb 2016

I won't be on DU much, sadly, so I'll miss the fun

demmiblue

(39,720 posts)
14. I hadn't watched the latest video from the fundraiser...
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 05:29 PM
Feb 2016

the way that the security/secret service man laid hands on Ms. Williams was really gross and disturbing. Hillary should have told him to back the fuck off!

Hillary showed her true face in that video... appalling!

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
75. She let them treat her like a criminal
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 07:12 PM
Feb 2016

It reveals a serious character deficiency and is most definitely counter to the feminism that challenges patriarchy.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
16. Ashley Williams captures Hillary's real attitude toward AAs.
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 05:31 PM
Feb 2016

We've been saying it until we were blue in the face.

I am so grateful this brilliant young AA woman came along when she did.

Thank you, Ashley.

retrowire

(10,345 posts)
62. Oh! I love this part.
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 06:38 PM
Feb 2016

This is where the typical Hillary Supporter shrugs away and doesn't return with any evidence. I would love to receive something other than that reaction for once, wouldn't you?

 

MaggieD

(7,393 posts)
169. Well the first one I see is near the beginning....
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 02:37 PM
Feb 2016

Where they omit that it was gangs she was calling "super predators" and only use the video from where she says "these kids" going forward. They didn't omit that for no reason. And that is the tactic they use through the whole thing, interspersing it with editorial from Bernie supporters.

I'm not going to go through the whole thing with you, because it's a waste of my time. But that video is for shit. I can see why whomever created doesn't want their name known.

I also heard (rumor) that Ashley Williams is a big Cornel West fan, and has worked with him. Do you know if that is true? If so, it would explain a lot about this whole thing.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
165. how can HRC's words and history
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 02:05 PM
Feb 2016

Be falsified? Her words, her actions, her voting record and support for mass incarceration, Iraq war ect are not falsified(lies). HRC is a centrist RIGHT democrat and that has a ring of conservatism that has weakened our Party and continues the "business as usual", kick the ball down the road attitude that are not helping Americans concerned with the direction that this country has taken, both politically and culturally, for the last 35 years. I fear, just like the Gov, Snyder and his knowledge years before that he was poisoning thousands of people in Flint, Michigan, goddamn politicians locally and nationally, just don't give a fuck. About anyone but their own twisted and hypocritical agendas.

 

Jitter65

(3,089 posts)
174. Breitbart, is that you? Pretty soon there will be a video refuting all these sliced and diced clips
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 05:15 PM
Feb 2016

When people realize what a smear job has been put forth by BLM they will lose much creditability.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
176. Lifelong Democrat here. Am sure Ms. Williams isn't Breitbart either.
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 05:22 PM
Feb 2016

I have seen the longer versions of those newscasts and there is no falsification whatsoever.

This is your candidate. You might as well accept her for what she is.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
177. And don't be trashing BLM for criticizing Hill.
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 05:30 PM
Feb 2016

I'm referring to this:

When people realize what a smear job has been put forth by BLM they will lose much creditability.


You need to understand that BLM are sincere and have a legitimate point of view.

BillZBubb

(10,650 posts)
43. Maggie, you wouldn't believe the truth about Hillary if it hit you in the head.
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 06:13 PM
Feb 2016

She's not what you think she is. You tried to pretend yesterday that Hillary was talking about gangs, not individuals as super predators. YOU WERE WRONG. You were either being dishonest or willfully ignorant.

And to claim this is selectively edited or that the sources are anonymous is absolute nonsense. Again you are wrong and being either dishonest or willfully ignorant.

I hope one day you wake up, but your coma is a deep one.

BillZBubb

(10,650 posts)
50. You were WRONG about Hillary and super predators. You are wrong about this video too.
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 06:16 PM
Feb 2016

I don't know if your head is in the sand or you are a paid propagandist.

retrowire

(10,345 posts)
60. You perfectly portray one who has their hands over their ears whilst shouting
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 06:37 PM
Feb 2016

"Lalalala I can't hear youuuu"

Your normal counter arguments of "Nuh uh." are already submitted so there's no need to reply to this post.

Matariki

(18,775 posts)
145. Why bother?
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 01:17 AM
Feb 2016

the responses about as intelligent as 'neener-neener' and 'nuh-uh you are'

retrowire

(10,345 posts)
112. But she believes the video.
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 09:16 PM
Feb 2016

You didn't create the font you're writing your denial with either. lol

 

MaggieD

(7,393 posts)
114. So what? She was in diapers back then
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 09:40 PM
Feb 2016

The fact that she is suspectible to propaganda doesn't change my mind about anything. I've seen 20 years of this anonymous smear stuff. Whatever.

retrowire

(10,345 posts)
147. Hillary having one opinion at one time and then a different later
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 04:04 AM
Feb 2016

isn't propaganda. it's fact.

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
106. so you only trust any video if you know the videographer??
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 08:30 PM
Feb 2016

Ridiculous.

Absurd.

Ludicrous.

Dishonest.

 

MaggieD

(7,393 posts)
109. I don't trust it if it's anonymous
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 08:32 PM
Feb 2016

There is a reason they don't want anyone to know who created it. Because it's bullshit, edited propaganda.

 

MaggieD

(7,393 posts)
115. Edited bullshit interspersed with editorial
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 09:41 PM
Feb 2016

.... By an anonymous source too cowardly to reveal their name. Last I checked video cameras don't do that.

whatchamacallit

(15,558 posts)
116. These are things she said
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 09:47 PM
Feb 2016

If you're certain expanding the cuts for context will result in an entirely different interpretation of what she said, I invite you to make that video to set the record straight. Just claiming the edits lie, doesn't really get it.

whatchamacallit

(15,558 posts)
135. The parts where she was on screen sure were
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 11:44 PM
Feb 2016

if you consider who the pundits offering commentary were, there's no reason to believe they actually said good things that got edited out. Again, make a rebuttal video.

 

Jitter65

(3,089 posts)
175. Yes, waaayyy out of context. When BLM is called on the kind smearing they are doing folks will
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 05:17 PM
Feb 2016

become dismissive of them.. and that is a shame.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
119. Your loyality is admirable, but she is not a friend of the 99%. Rationalize away, but she
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 10:00 PM
Feb 2016

is a friend of Goldman-Sachs. She wants power and money.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
140. Not sure what your point is. I am definitely not in the 1% wealthiest of Americans.
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 12:53 AM
Feb 2016

The Clintons are not only in the top 1% of wealthy Americans they are in the top 1% of the top 1%. I hate to break it to you but they don't love you. They love wealth and power. Their wealth comes at the expense of 50,000,000 Americans living in poverty.

Two sides to the class war. The Clintons and their $150,000,000 that they got from graft and the 50,000,000 Americans living in poverty. Whose side are you on?

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
173. You choose to side with the Clintons, Citibank, Goldman-Sachs and Wall Street.
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 04:30 PM
Feb 2016

They will not only not help the 16,000,000 of our children, they will work for higher profits which will undoubtedly make the poverty problem worse.

"The choice is stark, keep living under corporate rule under Hillary and watch things get worse, or go with Bernie and fight TPTB to regain our Representative Democracy!"

BainsBane

(57,757 posts)
129. Well, she apparently isn't the only one with money
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 11:18 PM
Feb 2016

considering some of Bernie's campaign contributors have so much money they contribute amounts over legal limits that puts him in violation of campaign finance law. http://www.burlingtonfreepress.com/story/news/politics/2016/02/26/feds-flag-bernie-sanders-campaign-contributions/80985898/

Since I've never been in a position to have anywhere near that amount of money, I can only speculate that those those who do must have investments with Wall Street themselves. Perhaps not Goldman but its competition? Million dollar houses don't get bought on their own.

But I know what you mean about Hillary. It's just unseemly when women earn money that rightfully belongs to their betters.

 

MaggieD

(7,393 posts)
133. LOL - crazy huh?
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 11:40 PM
Feb 2016

Luckily nobody HERE would ever rail against the 1% while being one AND excessively donate to a candidate illegally. Right? Never happen. Would it?

Response to BainsBane (Reply #129)

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
19. I've seen this video now all over Social Media. Unfortunately I believe the corrupt system
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 05:32 PM
Feb 2016

has gained so much power that either Hillary or one of the Repub Corporate puppets will win this election. Still, the first steps have been taken to shake them to their core and the political revolution that is needed wont' end with this RIGGED election.

There is only one genuinely qualified candidate in this race which is why they are working so hard to stop him.

Waiting For Everyman

(9,385 posts)
29. Are you sure you've seen THIS video -- it's new today?
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 05:47 PM
Feb 2016

The short time left bothers me too, Sabrina. You never know, this could grab some attention in time.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
71. Let me look again. I have seen the compilation of the history of the Clintons' relationship with
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 07:06 PM
Feb 2016

AAs which was available about a week ago and frankly it is quite shocking. I feel bad that I ever supported them, my only excuse being that I did not know much about them and was busy fending off rabid right wingers which tended to distract from what we know are learning.

I thought this might be the one, but I will watch this one too to be sure. Thanks for posting it. We MUST have facts no matter how inconvenient to those in power, in order to correct the wrongs currently going uncorrected in this country.

Cassiopeia

(2,603 posts)
28. This isn't going away
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 05:45 PM
Feb 2016

Rightfully so.

Clinton has told us how she really feels over and over again. We know her by her actions, not her campaign rhetoric.

me b zola

(19,053 posts)
61. It boggles my mind that she was given a pass after the '08 primary
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 06:38 PM
Feb 2016

This powerful video pulls back the thin veil that she operates behind.

PatrynXX

(5,668 posts)
86. Reminds me of Michael Moore docs when he still had the gift
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 07:29 PM
Feb 2016

and again we sorely need Keith Olbermann back if not just for a few nights for a chat about whats going on today in politics. With James Thurber or without him.

 

BostonBob

(18 posts)
92. Keep spreading the truth
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 07:47 PM
Feb 2016

This elitist predatory white woman must be brought to heel. A posting of these clips was taken down elsewhere on this site. Must have strucken a nerve.

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
95. I've been asking for ages...WTH has she truly done for people of color???
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 07:49 PM
Feb 2016

Of course...never an answer.

 

Geronimoe

(1,539 posts)
141. Hillary did a graduate course internship with Children's Defense Fund
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 12:59 AM
Feb 2016

That was about 40 years ago and is about all she has done.

backscatter712

(26,357 posts)
100. Hillary has the history of throwing black people and other minorities under the bus...
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 07:59 PM
Feb 2016

...yet by the logic of her supporters, somehow, we're all supposed to think that Bernie Sanders is the racist shitlord.

delrem

(9,688 posts)
152. I like the crawling bug. To me, it has positive significance.
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 04:30 AM
Feb 2016

Where are the LOoniXs of yesteryear?
I guess you have to have been there, and cared.

ChiciB1

(15,435 posts)
121. This SHOULD Matter To So Many Blinded By Who Hillary Really Is, BUT
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 10:09 PM
Feb 2016

I wonder if it will. I've been baffled as to why so many here STILL are unable to grasp what her actions have lead to from the past. Not just 3, 4 or 5 of them, but may. many of them.

Hillary will be who you want her to be WHEN it suits her. IT IS A PATTERN many of us have seen and know.

jillan

(39,451 posts)
142. If Hillary wins in Illinois after her support for Rahm, knowing what we know now about his coverup
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 01:04 AM
Feb 2016

in the murder of Laquan McDonald, I give up.

#WhichHillary?

questionseverything

(11,841 posts)
172. i don't know how the primary in illinois will go but
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 04:25 PM
Feb 2016

if hc is the candidate for the general, i am terrified illinois will go red

we have a repub senator and gov now so losing illinois in the general is a real possibility

downstate the clintons are hated by repubs and i don't see chicago bothering to vote for her after her rahm support

Tarc

(10,601 posts)
162. "BLM activist" ? No, label this woman for what she really is;
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 01:24 PM
Feb 2016

She is employed by Cornell West and a Sanders supporter. This woman's "interruption" was a planned political move, no one is falling for this except for people already committed to Sanders anyways.

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
166. That is a great video, very well done.
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 02:10 PM
Feb 2016

I still can't get over the way Hillary treats BLM in person. Both clips show her disdain for them. That one where she just points in their faces like a typical politician, in such a condescending manner, when she should have been having a real conversation as a real person with compassion is so awful. Then the way she pretends to be talking to Ashley while Ashely is being forcibly ejected, who does that? Have her ejected or address her. You can't have it both ways. That was Hillary in a nutshell. Ignoring the real issue while trying to show she cares about it by saying something, anything. And then once she sees Ashely is gone it's "back to the issues". So BLM is apparently not an issue for Hillary.

Despicable.

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