2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumBernie's statement RE: SC
"I congratulate Secretary Clinton on her victory in South Carolina," Sanders said in the statement, going on to name-check a few of his major supporters in the state. "I will always be especially thankful for the courageous support of state Reps. Terry Alexander, Justin Bamberg, Joe Neal, Wendell Gilliard, Cesar McKnight, Robert Williams and former Democratic Party Chairman Dick Harpootlian."
Sanders said that his campaign wasn't over despite a huge loss.
"Let me be clear on one thing tonight," Sanders' statement read. "This campaign is just beginning. We won a decisive victory in New Hampshire. She won a decisive victory in South Carolina. Now its on to Super Tuesday. In just three days, Democrats in 11 states will pick 10 times more pledged delegates on one day than were selected in the four early states so far in this campaign. Our grassroots political revolution is growing state by state, and we won't stop now."
When we come together, and don't let people like Donald Trump try to divide us, we can create an economy that works for all of us and not just the top 1 percent," Sanders finished.
Read more: http://www.politico.com/blogs/2016-dem-primary-live-updates-and-results/2016/02/sanders-congratulates-clinton-south-carolina-219904#ixzz41Q06yBMB
Autumn
(45,120 posts)Milliesmom
(493 posts)senz
(11,945 posts)840high
(17,196 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Just read up. He was speaking of "us" us - all Democrats and others who are fighting anti-liberal, anti-Democrats forces and for economic improvement. Not sure why he intimated we could be significantly divided by Trump. Probably his relatively few cons might move right?
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)because she is tough. Doesn't matter that she is tough on the 99% and soft on Wall Street.
firebrand80
(2,760 posts)Still just beginning?
Joe the Revelator
(14,915 posts)....and Hillary will have gone through her best states. I think after Tuesday is important.
jeff47
(26,549 posts)There's 865 delegates to be won or lost on Super Tuesday. Most states are awarding delegates proportionally. And for scale, California alone has 475 pledged delegates, but won't vote until June.
And it's not like we're gonna win Alabama in the general election.
This is going to be a long primary.
Karma13612
(4,554 posts)pushing the meme after 4 states that it's over for Bernie.
JackRiddler
(24,979 posts)Before CA, NY, FL, etc.! Nuts to that.
Karma13612
(4,554 posts)LibDemAlways
(15,139 posts)Last edited Sat Feb 27, 2016, 10:46 PM - Edit history (1)
South Carolina, a state Democrats have no chance of winning in November. She'll do well in the South in the primary because of the AA vote, but it means nothing in the general. Let California, New York, Illinois, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Oregon, Washington, Massachusetts, Wisconsin, Ohio - in other words states that are Democratic strongholds or swing states - weigh in before a winner is crowned. The high-fiving is all a bit premature and very unseemly at this point in the process.
Karma13612
(4,554 posts)Pharaoh
(8,209 posts)arlington.mass
(41 posts)Who cares about these super conservative Southern states?
We have no chance of winning here, who cares who the conservative dems in this region prefer, they are irrelevant to the general election
If HRC landslides in MA, NY, OH, PA, CA, MI, MN, WI, etc - different story, lets see how the swing states vote
Number23
(24,544 posts)Never mind the fact that she is leading in every single one of the states that you mentioned.
SC doesn't matter because she won't win it in the GE? And what, Sanders will...?
jeff47
(26,549 posts)First, there was nowhere near as large an effort to get Clinton to give up after NH as we are seeing directed at Sanders after SC.
Thing is, NH has actually voted for the Democrat in the general election. We've won it in 5 of the 6 last presidential elections, with that loss being 1.3%.
SC has only voted for a Democrat in one general election since 1964. (In 1976)
We should not let a state we can not possibly win in the general be the one to choose our candidate.
Clinton did well. But it's going to be a long primary.
Number23
(24,544 posts)most of whom are minorities, and untold numbers of delegates because they come from the wrong states.
It's really too bad that nothing in the American political system correlates with this newfound "only states that vote Dems matter" philosophy. And I'm sure it's just a coincidence that the majority of the folks who hold this philosophy are Sanders supporters who now also hate the DNC, super delegates and apparently every thing else to do with how presidents are elected in America.
jeff47
(26,549 posts)The formula for delegates at the convention takes in to account past general election results. Because of that, SC has fewer delegates per person than many other states. IIRC, only Texas has fewer per person.
So the DNC is saying MILLIONS of Democrats, most of who are minorities, count less.
I eagerly await your condemnation of the DNC and their abandonment of "one person, one vote".....many years ago.
Number23
(24,544 posts)You were the one braying that SC and Southern votes don't and more importantly, SHOULD not matter. Now you're hollering that the DNC is somehow disenfranchising them.
I don't know what point you're trying to make beyond just wanting to argue for the sheer hell of it. Lots of people in pain do that, but I'm really not interested.
jeff47
(26,549 posts)The DNC gives SC fewer delegates per person than it gives to CA, IA, NH, and almost everywhere else. You are attacking me for this same position. And claiming that me talking about longstanding DNC policy is changing the subject when it does not agree with you.
elljay
(1,178 posts)Where I have seen dozens of Bernie stickers and shirts and only one Hillary sticker. Sure, we give up because South Carolina has voted conservative. Not.
Karma13612
(4,554 posts)elljay
(1,178 posts)Keep the money coming, folks!
Raster
(20,998 posts)...AND WE KNOW THAT IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN!
Go Bernie!
JonLeibowitz
(6,282 posts)Cal33
(7,018 posts)two-thirds. Yes, still the beginning.
Autumn
(45,120 posts)senz
(11,945 posts)He knows it and WE the people know it.
PatrynXX
(5,668 posts)who's getting plastered. Why is he worried about it??
TM99
(8,352 posts)staying the race long after she lost to Obama in 2008?
TM99
(8,352 posts)of your compatriots.
If he has the numbers of support and the cash, Sanders has every right to stay in until the convention. I fully support him in doing so.
If Clinton is the presumptive nominee, why should it matter to you if he does?
firebrand80
(2,760 posts)In fact, watching his supporters twist themselves into knots to explain why he's still viable will prove quite entertaining
TM99
(8,352 posts)that you are taking?
Cool.
I guess I am going to feel the same with Clinton supporters here on November 5th after she loses and I say I told you so.
Herman4747
(1,825 posts)Hey, but you don't do that, do you now? That's the funny part.
Fantastic Anarchist
(7,309 posts)sammythecat
(3,568 posts)libdem4life
(13,877 posts)they support...care to comment? And please focus on what power one vote has in the grand scheme of the big O.
SciDude
(79 posts)Until all investigations of her are concluded it would be foolish for Sanders to drop out prematurely and coronate a candidate that may be in jail.
Just in case.
TM99
(8,352 posts)But having many here fact this reality is another matter.
nxylas
(6,440 posts)If Bernie did drop out today, it would make the rest of her campaign (primary and general) about as exciting as a town council election in Buttfuck, Idaho.
TM99
(8,352 posts)She has tapped out many of her contribution sources.
They believe that if Sanders keeps running she will have to keep spending to fight him. If he leaves the race, then she can 'supposedly' get his donors and his supporters.
Then her war chest will be strong enough from a CU perspective to take on Trump.
Cui bono.
FangedNoumenom
(145 posts)That's the date that will decide whether or not his campaign is over.
dragonfly301
(399 posts)"My husband did not wrap up the nomination in 1992 until he won the California primary somewhere in the middle of June, right? We all remember Bobby Kennedy was assassinated in June in California. I don't understand it."
basselope
(2,565 posts)humbled_opinion
(4,423 posts)I guess we will be told by you and your blindly led associates that after Trump rolls out the Goldman transcripts we will be required to shut up about it and defend her, that is how bizarre this is, why aren't Democrats more up in arms about her refusal to release the transcripts?
hopemountain
(3,919 posts)in his speech (uncensored) on cspan1
Shadowflash
(1,536 posts)lame54
(35,328 posts)Hillary gave a very cordial victory speech
The gloating comments on this board - not so cordial
firebrand80
(2,760 posts)lame54
(35,328 posts)Continue to be arrogant and condescending
It's a winning strategy
jonestonesusa
(880 posts)Because at the end of the day, this election isn't just about primaries and horse races, it's about governance.
Sanders gets that, and that's why he's able to sincerely congratulate Clinton on her win in South Carolina, one moment in a long campaign that hopefully results in serving the public through good governance. And if Clinton does win, it's up to her to follow through and earn the support of all Dems and a national majority not just through campaign rhetoric, but through policies. So it very much is just the beginning.
DataDrivenFP
(7 posts)Holy Media Bias, Batman!!
See
"Congresswoman quits Democratic National Committee, endorses Bernie Sanders" for unbiased reporting.
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-sanders-gabbard-idUSMTZSAPEC2S9JDNKG
Media Blackout As Thousands of Bernie Sanders Supporters March in 45 Cities
From that radical state Tennessee, http://www.wsmv.com/story/31334144/bernie-sanders-supporters-march-through-nashville
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511357308
#MarchForBernie
Hillary won strongly
in a very conservative state that reliably votes Republican in presidential elections,
won narrowly and virtually tied in two tossup states, and
lost decisively in a state that usually goes Democratic.
It's too early to see if there's a pattern here, but you have to wonder.
Barack_America
(28,876 posts)Bold to put such an emphasis on Super Tuesday, though.
JimDandy
(7,318 posts)His states are coming up soon. I support him all the way there. GO BERNIE!!
HillareeeHillaraah
(685 posts)"Oh, was that tonight?"
PatrynXX
(5,668 posts)Cassiopeia
(2,603 posts)PonyUp
(1,680 posts)silvershadow
(10,336 posts)neighbors, and neighborhood. Register voters. Put up a yard sign. Slap on a bumper sticker.
Petrushka
(3,709 posts)chwaliszewski
(1,514 posts)Just did!
mainstreetonce
(4,178 posts).?
Joe the Revelator
(14,915 posts)mainstreetonce
(4,178 posts)Hill yes
Joe the Revelator
(14,915 posts)If you want a public shaming, keep looking.
mainstreetonce
(4,178 posts)Hill yes
Joe the Revelator
(14,915 posts)a year? Give it a rest.
senz
(11,945 posts)Geronimoe
(1,539 posts)He doesn't have a private jet that flies on his schedule and he doesn't take PAC money to be able to afford it.
SmittynMo
(3,544 posts)drray23
(7,638 posts)That Guy 888
(1,214 posts)Is it the sort of jet that could do a corkscrew landing into a hostile airspace?
Ghost Dog
(16,881 posts)so perfectly without damaging the lawn and while avoiding all cameras.
Agschmid
(28,749 posts)It was at one point but not anymore.
NJCher
(35,753 posts)Perhaps you haven't noticed, but Hillary copies Bernie; Bernie doesn't copy Hillary
Cher
humbled_opinion
(4,423 posts)time to release her goldman speech transcripts and stop playing with people, because when trump releases them in the GE it is going to destroy the Democratic party....
PeaceNikki
(27,985 posts)davidthegnome
(2,983 posts)A few states have voted... the nomination is not determined, the primaries have not reached their conclusion. We are absolutely still in this thing!
It's not over till it's over - and it's not over.
Moving forward, on to the next race. Congratulations on your victory, Clinton and Clinton supporters.
lovuian
(19,362 posts)are talking about healthcare and pharmaceuticals and college tuition
God Bless him
sorechasm
(631 posts)Without his cool head and his sincere desire to change the malaise, this campaign season would degenerate into a brawl. He should stay in until the convention, no matter the outcome of the elections just to keep the conversation going at an adult level.
With Trump in the GE, we'll have plenty of time for blood thirsty brawls.
tarheelsunc
(2,117 posts)When Hillary loses, she gives a concession speech and takes her loss like an adult. When Bernie loses, he hides behind a PR rep.
longship
(40,416 posts)There are no concession speeches for state primaries. Why? Because it ain't over with just one state. Why? Because everybody knew Hillary would win this one, especially Bernie.
Just like Hillary would have nothing to concede until Bernie would gain the nomination.
We've got a long way to go.
Please stop being silly.
There's the transcript of Clinton's speech in New Hampshire. Sanders didn't give one because he was campaigning elsewhere today. In the end, it's not a big deal, but yes concession speeches are given in primary elections.
Don Draper
(187 posts)It happens in the southern states all the time.
George II
(67,782 posts)But his decisive victory in New Hampshire was by 22% and about 50,000 votes.
Clinton's victory in South Carolina is by 50% and, with only 60% of the vote counted, by about 125,000 votes and growing.
As CNN's John King said just moments ago, "this isn't a victory, it's a thrashing".
Joe the Revelator
(14,915 posts)Funny, that.
George II
(67,782 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)SammyWinstonJack
(44,130 posts)azmom
(5,208 posts)Plucketeer
(12,882 posts)That's the key element. We must get it into voters heads that this is NOT a fucking horse race! It's a MOVEMENT OF the people, FOR the people. It's not some sport where you cheer from the bleachers - you get down ON THE FIELD and throw your shoulder into it.
Waiting For Everyman
(9,385 posts)Damn straight, Bernie!
4dsc
(5,787 posts)no surrender here.
Jenny_92808
(1,342 posts)Bernie will win.
NBachers
(17,149 posts)if he's the nominee. I know we've got a big either / or crowd here, but, really, I'd be proud to call either Bernie or Hillary my president.
And before the Hillary Haters pile on, I want to flash Exhibit A, which I've proudly been sporting around for a few months now:
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)AgadorSparticus
(7,963 posts)How can anyone not vote for him? I just REALLY like him and his messages. I believe he will do the right thing and be exactly what this country needs.
myrna minx
(22,772 posts)bread_and_roses
(6,335 posts)Not just Texas yesterday - Media Blackout As Thousands of Bernie Sanders Supporters March in 45 Cities
http://usuncut.com/politics/media-blackout-as-thousands-of-bernie-supporters-march-in-45-cities/
The Chicago photo looks like thousands there alone - evidently several thousands in Pittsburgh -