Let's Face It Folks... What Bernie Is Up Against, Is Handing Out Pink Slips To The Establishment...

[WillyT]

And Most Of Them Have Never Experienced Such A Thing...And Are Scared Shitless...

And Will Fight To Their Last Breath To Prevent It.

Although apparently it's Ok for the rest of us plebes...

Right/Left, Civil Rights Hero Or Not... For the first times in their comfortable lives, from their perches of power, their guarantee of a revolving door retirement is under siege.

There is a man out there that wants to smash it all.

DULink: http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511346662



He, and many of us, believe that that is what prevents our government for full-filling its duty:

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

This IS the Peoples Revolution... this is our time, and our one chance.

Everything else is just theater.

[hack89]

1. Non-voting revolutionaries seem to be an issue for Bernie at the moment. Nt

[rhett o rick]

4. Be smug as we see these people losing their jobs and knowing that Clinton supports

shipping jobs out of the country. She takes millions from the companies and pretends to worry about the people.

It's easy to be smug when one sides with the Big Money, but sooner or later we will throw the Big Money puppets out of Wash DC.

[hack89]

7. The OP is smug - trumpeting a "revolution" as his candidate gets his ass handed to him

by a broad and diverse coalition of Democrats. It is almost as smug as those "revolutionaries" lecturing those Democrats for having the nerve to disagree with them.

[rhett o rick]

12. Let me put it another way. Siding with Clinton is siding with the corporation that

is firing these people that you seem not to care about. We need a revolution to save our jobs, save our homes, save our retirements, and keep the neocons from sending our families to die. Mock us as you will but we will continue to fight the hubris of the wealthy and their followers that turn their heads from the 50 million American living in poverty.

[Cary]

32. Mocking is the wrong word

As I have ever told you, and as you refuse to hear, some of us agree with your goals. I cannot speak for anyone but myself of course but I happen to believe that you have no idea how to achieve your goals.

I see you cutting off your nose to spite your face.

So I do not mock you. I see you as part of the problem and not part of.the solution.

It would do you some good to try to actually understand someone with a different perspecitve, instead of projecting.

[VulgarPoet]

44. Perspective nothing when people in jobs that get shipped off to fuckin China, Taiwan or Mexico

wind up paying for putting in Clinton. When our men and women in the military-- who y'all claim the Clintons did so much for-- are dying in another illegal, unwarranted intervention in the Middle East. When the Democratic Party just becomes a palette swap of the Republican Party in blue ties.

So if Hillary is the nominee? It doesn't matter to me, because Texas is predominantly a red state. But I'm not voting for her. She has no part of the solution that you speak of.

[dchill]

77. "The OP is smug..."

But you're not? I could almost retire on your smugness. Seriously. You have too much time on your hands, and not enough self-awareness.

[hack89]

85. You just broke my irony meter. Nt

[dchill]

87. I hope you can get it fixed soon!

[hack89]

91. I suspect after the primaries are done with it won't get so much abuse.

Peace.

[WillyT]

8. As Are People Voting Against The Own Interests... Joyously... What Do You See Happening In November

I may eventually, begrudgingly vote for HRC, But...

I will not phone bank, I will not donate funds, I will definitely not go door-to-door...

Because I find it most difficult to spew lies in defense of ANYONE.

And... I WANT the Establishment sweating it out... I want them to know what the end of their good job feels like.

[hack89]

10. I was thinking more of that massive wave of new and young voters that would bring about revolution

you know - the ones that decided to stay at home playing xbox instead of voting.

I see Hillary winning in November.

[rhett o rick]

16. Your logic is backwards. Those that I've stood shoulder to shoulder with are not

as you disparage. They are concerned citizens that see what the wealthy greed has done to our country. How can people calling themselves Democrats support the wealthy 1% in lieu of the middle and working classes?

And Clinton and her supporters are not trying to be friends with the young voters, but disparage them as you've done. Then they will wonder why the young won't support Clinton in the General. The hubris will be Clinton's downfall.

[hack89]

25. The young are not bothering to support Bernie much less Clinton

it is not disparaging to point out they are not turning out in the numbers Bernie expected and needs.

[rhett o rick]

31. This is disparaging, "the ones that decided to stay at home playing xbox instead of voting."

But the hubris of those supporting the Oligarchy includes disparaging the young, the working class, students, vets, seniors, etc. To some the profits of the Wealthy is all there is.

[hack89]

33. So what were they doing instead of voting? Nt

[rhett o rick]

80. They were probably looking for jobs, but they are hard to find thanks to the Wealthy 1% that

you seem to admire. The wealth gap is literally killing people and you support a candidate that has benefited personally and will do nothing to slow this mess down. You don't really think she cares about the wealth gap? In another 8 years the 99% will all be paupers. We have a chance to change the corrupt culture of Big Money running our government but you side with the American Aristocracy.

[hack89]

86. Because all older people enjoy full employment and live fulfilling lives?

Black women have the highest voting rates in America. Is that because they have it so good they can afford the luxury of voting?

[rhett o rick]

96. You like to try to carry on a discussion using questions. Sorry, but if you have something

to say, just say it.

[hack89]

98. Just pointing out the flaw in your logic

lots of people are struggling to survive - they don't seem to have problems finding time to vote. What is stopping young voters from voting at the same rate as black women. Simple question.

[Duval]

95. My grandkids have jobs, but an enormous college debt.

They are trying to make ends meet! That's why they support Bernie.

[rhett o rick]

97. I see a lot of people in their 30's and 40's working part time or contract jobs with no

benefits. I also see people in their 50's that can't find work. No one will hire them. Sooner or later all in the 99% will join the movement, except those that worship at the alter of wealth.

[Dont call me Shirley]

26. The ones Debbie never encouraged to vote, but discouraged from voting by giving them nothing to

vote for?

[hack89]

28. Revolutions are supposed to be hard

if they needed help and encouragement from the establishment they are supposed to overthrow
then no wonder Bernie can't count on them.

I thought Bernie was the reason they would come out to vote.

[Dont call me Shirley]

61. We weren't yet talking about a political revolution during the huge Democratic losses in 2010 &

2014, due to D's unwillingness to put forth and support winning candidates. People are sick and tired of being lied to by establishment revolving door corporate owned politicians.

We don't want anymore liars, thieves and poisoners. We want good jobs. We want a clean environment to live and play in. We want a life of sanity not daily shock doctrine. We want a real community to raise our kids in. We want a guarantee of quality healthcare when we get sick or injured. We want a self-determined education. We want dignity! That is what this Revolution is about, not about one person.

Revolutions are not "supposed to be hard". Revolutions are only hard when natural evolution is fought against. Bernie is telling us, showing us how to cooperate with natural change.

The .01% fight change, they fight against life with every speck of their being. We're sick and tired of living our lives their way!

[hack89]

63. Then you need more reliable foot soldiers

ones that you can count on to show up when needed.

[WillyT]

73. Sorry You've Opted Out...

[hack89]

82. I always vote. Always.

don't blame me for Bernie's problems.

[think]

30. Goldman Sachs has it in the bag. They know how to pay it forward,,,,,,

[hack89]

36. Doesn't say much for young progressives, does it?

when the corporations they consider the enemy of society can manipulate them into not voting.

[think]

75. What does it say about you?

[hack89]

83. That I am strong in my convictions and always vote.

I don't silence myself nor let others silence me.

[think]

90. That is abundantly clear

[retrowire]

34. Hi, I'm a millenial and you're being an ass.

"the ones that decided to stay at home playing xbox instead of voting" Seriously?

Please, show yourself the door.

[hack89]

37. So what were they doing instead of voting?

Because they have certainly let Bernie down so far.

[retrowire]

39. They were uploading dank memes and watching lets plays on youtube. LOLOL

Again, show yourself the door. You messed up already with your condescending attitude so don't expect a reply from me. Not like I'm apart of a fucking hive mind of millenials.

Say whats your age and demographic? Maybe I could return the favor and make a mocking generalization of your type?

Nah, I'm better than that.

[hack89]

40. Bernie made a huge mistake betting his candidacy on young voters

they are the fools gold that entrance some populist politician every election only to let them down time and time again.

[retrowire]

41. you're pretty good with that shovel! lmao

Young voters are the fools eh? XD

You're starting to sound like a chicken! MOCK mock mock mock MOOOCK mock mock mock...

Keep going, you're shaping up to be exactly what I thought.

[hack89]

45. I said "fools gold" not "fools". It is the politicians that are fools for chasing their support. Nt

[retrowire]

47. They're fools for chasing the majorities support?

They're fools for going after the support of those who inherit the future?

Interesting theory you've got there buddy. XD

[hack89]

50. They are fools for chasing a demographic with historically low voting rates

"this time it will be different" is the battle cry of such politicians. But it never is.

[retrowire]

53. And you want to mock the optimism and hope of those that it may actually be different this time?

There is a first time for everything. And your pessimism being slathered over every reply when speaking to others about it is not a solution, it is a disease. It does not help anyone. It might solidify your own deep feelings of what you feel is concrete, but it does nothing to aid progress.

That attitude is akin to being Eeyore the donkey. "Oh well, what's the point."

So you'll excuse me if I point you out as being abrasive. You think you're being pragmatic and realistic. But in a presidential campaign where people like me see the opportunity for real change, you'll understand if we get a little pissed off for being equated to an Xbox playing teen who does nothing productive with their time.

You'll understand if your kind of language doesn't encourage others to follow your ideals. You'll understand that people aren't just looking at this as fun and games, and our hearts are actually invested in this. Sure, you may be older and you've "seen it all before" but I'm sorry to repeat it to you again, no matter how many times you may shake your head, "this time may be different."

I'll leave you with this...

"Come mothers and fathers
Throughout the land
And don't criticize
What you can't understand
Your sons and your daughters
Are beyond your command
Your old road is
Rapidly agin'
Please get out of the new one
If you can't lend your hand
For the times they are a-changin'."

[hack89]

58. No. I question their political commitment and reliability

Their hopes and optimism are thrown away the moment they choose not to vote.

[MrMickeysMom]

43. You wish...

But, I doubt seriously that you explore the subject with first time voters and 20-30 somethings... You're too busy spitting up and slipping over the foam on what you WISH would be the outcome.

Should I share your rubbish with the young, they'll do this with me....

[hack89]

46. We are far enough into the primaries to see who is turning out to vote.

it has nothing to do with what I think.

[MrMickeysMom]

49. It has everything to do with what you think....

and it has everything to do with what you and followers of the DLC quiver over...

and it has everything to do with what you think will persuade others with low information...

and it has EVERYTHING to do with how you stopped thinking long ago...

Hey, come here!... Woo-Hoo! Come on, Homer! Let's follow these lemmings off that thing that looks like our big old new horizon!

[hack89]

51. Which has nothing to do with why young voters are not turning out in large numbers for Bernie. Nt

[MrMickeysMom]

52. You don't know that, either...

Iowa, NH, Nevada and SC seem to portend your predicted outcome. No doubt, that Tarot deck you keep next to your tea leaves is your trick.

Well, good for you!

[hack89]

55. After Super Tuesday what will be your excuse?

he is predicted to lose Massachusetts - lots of young progressive voters there. Would that loss convince you?

[MrMickeysMom]

57. Is it important that I be convinced by what you say?

Do yourself a favor and follow the same news we all do. Try not to focus your negativity on what others think.

I don't live in fear of an outcome. I live to try to do my best in this life. Outside of giving you further energy, I'll continue doing that.

[hack89]

59. No. Reality is convincing enough for most people. Nt

[MrMickeysMom]

60. Well, isn't that special?

You are a wad of wasted conversation. Please join the other waste of times in my ignore list. I'm sure you will have much in common.

[redstateblues]

64. When you can't counter a point mount a personal attack

nice work!

[MrMickeysMom]

66. So nice of you to bait with a comment never sent to you...

Nice try.

[hack89]

67. The election results are reality and are convincing

I don't have to convince her of anything if she accepts the voting results. My only point.

[redstateblues]

65. Telling it like it is

[dchill]

76. Until they come for you, eh?

[hack89]

84. Are you saying they are violent?

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or, like young voters are apt to do, will they start voting as they get older?

And why should I fear them? I have said many a time that I would vote for Bernie if he was the nominee. His ideas and his supporters don't scare me.

[upperatmos]

99. No, it ain't "non-voting" revolutionaries. It's the sea of ignorance called the USA.

The American pleb must be told how to think. Why do you think the entertainment industry spends 75% of its outlays in marketing? Why do you think a corrupt, lying profiteer like HRC has such a big following? Because she's a name brand that's been around a while. It ain't rocket science. It's a product of Corporate marketing.

Fortunately, alternative media is making steady inroads into the American psyche, educating them (for better or worse) to distrust the MSM.

Unfortunately, it hasn't yet the impact necessary to inform them as to what the stakes are in this election. And they are high.
It is, essentially, INTEGRITY vs CORRUPTION.

Bernie's a once-in-a-lifetime candidate -- a man with integrity.

Hillary's just another power-hungry sociopath who'll do or say anything to get elected. Who will take anybody's money to enrich her self. Who will flout any rule, law, or principle that stands in her way.

But she's got a hell of marketing apparatus, backed by every crooked, crony POS hypocrite in government and business.

[hack89]

100. Bernie was supposed to usher in a revolution with a tidal wave of new and young voters.

where are they?

[72DejaVu]

2. Revolution postponed

Spring break.

[rhett o rick]

6. How sad that you mock those losing their jobs because the billionaires and their puppet

politicians are letting their greed kill the working class. While these poor workers seek other employment, HRC is raking in abt 2.5 million dollars per year from corporate gifts. Easy to be smug when one sides with the billionaires. Sooner or later we will prevail and throw out the corrupt, corporate owned politicians.

[72DejaVu]

13. Sad that someone would co-opt the Carrier workers

to try to prop up their failing candidate.

[timmymoff]

20. sadly

More than likely due to one of those glorious trade agreements the third way achieved for us. You know the ones Hillary supporters agree with when they cast a vote for her.

[rhett o rick]

22. Clinton doesn't care about the workers, she only cares about amassing wealth. nm

[TexasTowelie]

38. Considering that Donald Trump also co-opted this video

it means that he cares about the workers too? Give it a break, Rhett.

[rhett o rick]

79. The 99% can't stand another 8 years of more of the same and that's exactly

what Clinton will bring. She takes money from the wealthy and has amassed a huge wealth herself. We need to change the culture from the Citizens United, Big Money that she represents.

I won't give it a break until we get the Fat Cats out of politics.

[amborin]

3. the establishment gravy train is imperiled & they will stoop to any level to prevent this

[hack89]

9. You mean the voters will stoop to vote for someone else? How horrible! Nt

[amborin]

11. no, they will stoop to every kind of dirty trick, smear, and outright fraud, such as circulating fli

fliers making false claims, using surrogates to spread lies, etc.

[bigwillq]

5. The establishment does need to be laid off

But folks keep voting the same folks in over and over.

Most people in Congress, both parties, need to lose their job because they don't know how to do their job.

[WillyT]

14. Yep... Congress Has a 9% Approval Rating...

[shanti]

15. bernie is talking about messing with their money

(a good thing, imo) and they will not have that! absolutely, they're scared shitless.

[Uncle Joe]

17. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread, WillyT.

[TheProgressive]

18. The oligarchy has declared war on the American people...

Either we stand together to stop them, or they win... until we do stand up...

[AzDar]

19. Yep. They'll do anything to keep the Gravy Train a' rolling...

[FangedNoumenom]

21. As Upton Sinclair said

“It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends on his not understanding it.”

[WillyT]

23. + 1,000,000,000 - What You Said !!!

[rhett o rick]

62. I don't disagree but a lot of what we are seeing is those supporting Clinton are

doing so because she is a tough authoritarian figure. They don't care what she did or what she stands for.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/127710250

[redstateblues]

68. Bullshit. Your condescension does not help your cause

The constant insults that you heap on HRC supporters will not win you any converts. I happen to like Bernie but I choose to support who I think will be the best President. Your personal attacks reflect poorly on you.

[rhett o rick]

74. It's not my cause, it's a cause for the 16,000,000 children living in poverty because of the greed

of the Wealthy 1% that Clinton is well involved in. I heard a good quote on the Oscars tonight, "If you don't want a government controlled by Big Money, don't vote for a candidate that accepts Big Money."

"The choice is stark, keep living under corporate rule under Hillary and watch things get worse, or go with Bernie and fight TPTB to regain our Representative Democracy!"

For 30 years we've lived under the thumb of the wealthy oligarchy and people are literally dying because of their greed. It's time to stop this corrupt culture.

[Major Hogwash]

89. Great quote!!!

Thanks for bringing it here.

[stupidicus]

24. I disagree in part

I don't see his candidacy as a "chance" but rather as another step towards a wider awakening as to both what is and what is possible, and with that, increasing energy for and more inroads made by every step that follows towards the goal.

other than that, good post. I'm hopeful in a measure I'd not thought possible a year ago.

[me b zola]

27. Votes For People

[Enthusiast]

29. Kicked and recommended a bazillion times! Because fuck this shit!

Thank you, WillyT!

[dchill]

78. "Because fuck this shit!"

Now THERE'S a campaign slogan!

[Waiting For Everyman]

35. Exactly, WillyT!

Well put! It's their turn to rearrange their lives.

[PatrynXX]

48. Obama referred to this as the silly season

yeah nothing to be said about it but people angrily defending each others whatever. Problem is this time someones trying again and she hasn't changed at all. And even more people dislike her now than in 2008. But whatever happens Bernie finaly has the ball rolling on a NUMBER of issues. (he's no single issue candidate. ) god Free education going Corruption on wall Street. improving welfare. taking care of our Vets etc. Hillary? I have no idea what she plans to do. take Obama's stuff and throw it down the drain I assume

[smiley]

54. K&R

[merrily]

56. He's not handing out pink slips to the establishment, only to corruption and other

forms of greed that result in harm to people.

[Milliesmom]

69. Everyone darn well better

get out and vote and take everyone you know with you, call to see if anyone needs a ride, help get the vote out, this may be the last time we can save our democracy, it may be our last time to help save the earth, don't laugh, if the republicans get control, bend over and kiss your butts goodbye, the earth will be in more trouble, women will no longer count, you have already had a taste of how they operate. They will take everything away that has helped all of us. I personally am scared to death, I am 74 and try to survive on $1,079.00 per month, it's not fun. The Republicans might even take that away, then I have nothing, so many will have nothing, this is no way to live. Please vote.

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

70. So heartbreaking to witness those people hear that news.

Cold-hearted corporations need to be reigned in by We The FuckING PEOPLE!!

[captainarizona]

71. African americans in south carolina hand bernie the pink slip

We will see what the latino democratic vote does in texas tuesday. If they support hillary the writing is on the wall for white liberal elitists opinion makers. The black community is threatened by a white cop with a gun not billionaires dark money. The democratic coalition strikes back!

[GoneFishin]

72. She supports U.S. backed coups to overthrow democratically elected leaders. You think she will have

any sympathy for the plight of average Americans. She is working her ass off to make sure the system stays the same. She is getting filthy rich from the current corrupt system. She doesn't give a shit about us.

[rhett o rick]

81. Who do you think militarized the white cops with guns? Who do you think fought for stiff drug

laws and private Prisons For Profits? Who do you think turned their backs on Ferguson? The billionaires. Clinton doesn't side with the AA community she sides with the rich white men.

[Major Hogwash]

88. Kick and recommended.

I stayed away from the DU all weekend.

When I saw this thread, I wished I hadn't.

[Bern2WinUSA]

92. Everyone Should Read this Post!!!

Well done WillyT!!!

This may truly be our last chance to save our Country and undo all of the damage from the 1%!

[raouldukelives]

93. K&R One is the face of the system, the other is facing the system. nt

[WHEN CRABS ROAR]

94. Yes it IS a peoples revolution and we need to defend ourselves. n/t

[felix_numinous]

101. Yep shredders are running overtime

ZZzzzzzZzZZZZzzzzzzzzz!!!! Shred shred those papers, hurry up!

[Octafish]

102. The word 'revolution' frightens people, WillyT.