Why Clinton is, unfortunately, beating Sanders on race

[a kennedy]

BY: Fred Mckissack Jr

It’s no longer silly season. This presidential contest is now in mondo bizarro mode, where almost nothing makes sense, particularly black adulation for the Clintons.

In the days before the South Carolina Republican primary, a black minister stood in front of a battalion of Donald Trump supporters and became an oracle. He told the mostly white audience that Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders won’t make it to the White House because, “I know you’re going to make sure we elected a man who believes in the name of Jesus Christ.”

Trump, whose advocacy for building walls drew a rebuke from Pope Francis, told the same audience about the tragically high unemployment rate for black people, specifically young black men. He blamed President Barack Obama.

“Amen,” someone cried out.

Hearing that must have been a gut punch to Sanders, who has largely failed in his efforts to woo black voters. Even when he’s talking to a black audience about income inequality, Sanders manages more cringe-worthy moments than a Larry David comedy.

Full article here: http://www.winonadailynews.com/news/opinion/columnists/other/fred-mckissack-jr-why-clinton-is-unfortunately-beating-sanders-on/article_3523076c-5f73-5d24-bbf2-3b9f61f40fa4.html

[Erich Bloodaxe BSN]

1. Sounds about right.

Clinton is willing to say whatever she needs to say, be whatever she needs to be to each audience, while Bernie is simply offering us Bernie. And Bernie is white, and has a white worldview. He may understand why he's not resonating, but unlike Clinton, he's not willing to pretend he's something he isn't.

[Tarc]

4. This encapsulates what is wrong with some Sanders supporters

When most of the African-American community decides to go with Clinton instead of Sanders, it can't be because they honestly believe in her message and vision. No, it must be because she tricked and hoodwinked them with lies and two-faced maneuvers.

Do you have any self-awareness here, of how demeaning that is to the A-A community? That they are easily duped rubes? Yes, "Bernie is simply offering us Bernie", and the majority of them did not agree with that. Sanders himself is an intelligent man, and no doubt will reflect on this after the election's over and think "what can I do do better appeal to this community of people"

He certainly will not take your tack and wonder "how did Hillary sucker these people away from me?"

What this primary season has show me so far is that Bernie Sanders, while he is not my #1 choice, is a fundamentally a good person. His supporters could learn a lot from him.

[giftedgirl77]

5. Nope, they are clueless.

This same behavior of white superiority has been going on for centuries. For whatever reason they feel that if a minority goes against their belief system then they must not be well informed or ignorant. It couldn't possibly be due to different goals & intentions.

[GoneFishin]

6. Wrong. It's not about a particular ethnic group even though your smear works best to say it is about

AA, because then you can put a racist spin on it.

It is about anybody who wants a better life and is not a millionaire. People who want to go to college, or get health care without haggling full time with the insurance companies. Or people who don't like the taste of fracking fluid in their drinking water. Or people who think cops should go to jail if they murder someone.

It's about people who want a better life. But you keep making it about race like the memo says. It is much more inflammatory.

[Tarc]

7. Perhaps you need to re-read what I replied to

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as that person was making it about a particular ethnic group.

This is boilerplate Camp Sanders rhetoric.

* "Sanders is losing" must mean "the DNC is conspiring with Clinton against him."
* "African-Americans prefer Clinton" must mean "She lied to them and they bought into it.

It never even enters into your head that the majority of people simply hold a different opinion.

[Snotcicles]

9. It doesn't, "must mean"! Stop with that old warn-out republican conflation tactic.

But I must agree, there are a whole lot of people that do think The DNC and Clinton have conspired. And that Clinton is less than truthful.

[Tarc]

11. It means exactly what he said

Bernie lost the A-A vote because more of them believe in Hillary's message than his. They are not dumb, they were not hoodwinked, they simply do not "feel the bern".

Nothing more sinister than that.

[RobertEarl]

14. You don't know what you are saying Tarc

Quote:
"When most of the African-American community decides to go with Clinton instead of Sanders,"

The turnout in SC was 8% of the Dem voters in SC.

That is in no way shape or form most of the AA community. So just stop claiming any such thing. Such claims are dumb.

87% of SC Dems didn't even vote.

[Tarc]

15. I love picking Sanders camp distortions apart with facts

Clinton garnered more A-A support than even Obama did in 2008;
[link:http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/27/politics/south-carolina-primary-exit-polls-democrats/|
Exit polls: Black share of South Carolina Democratic primary increases over 2008]

Minorities and moderate and conservative Dems showed up in larger numbers this year. What demographic did not show up? Your much-ballyhooed "young people".

[msanthrope]

16. This is offensive. Nt

[onenote]

2. I think its a lot simpler than that.

It comes down to this, in my opinion. If Clinton had walked away after losing the nomination to Obama, and had stayed on the sidelines, she would have burned her bridges to the AA community. But she didn't do that. She endorsed Obama. She campaigned for him and urged her supporters to work on Obama's behalf. And she became part of the Obama team after the election.

That, in my opinion, went a long way to solidifying her status in the AA community -- a community that still overwhelmingly supports Obama.

As a Sanders supporter (but one who expects Sanders to support Clinton if she ends up with the nomination and who will do the same), I'm honestly not sure what Bernie could do to overcome that advantage.

[Lucinda]

17. Plus they weren't voting against Hillary, the were voting FOR Obama once Iowa proved

he could win white voters. They never stopped believing in Hillary. And they didn't by the bogus Clinton's are racists nonsense.

[w4rma]

3. "It’s no wonder Cornel West called her the Milli Vanilli of the 2016 campaign — just as fake as she"

"It’s no wonder Cornel West called her the Milli Vanilli of the 2016 campaign — just as fake as she is fabulous."

[Blue_Tires]

8. Hey, I've been telling folks since last fall

that the BernieBros were alienating and downplaying the black vote when they should have been trying to win it...

But what do I know??

[Cali_Democrat]

10. Yep. We've been pointing this out to the for months.

I wonder if they're finally starting to get it.

[Orsino]

12. Article fails to document specifics.

And overlooks Clinton's biggest asset on race: nostalgia.

When Republicans were issuing dog-whistles and teasing genocide, the Clintons were there, quietly going along to get along on crime bills and welfare reform that disproportionately harmed people of color. They must have looked relatively benign, and still symbolize something akin to racial harmony.

Meanwhile, Sanders and his record are still relative unknowns.

[YCHDT]

13. Another article that ignores what blacks have been saying for over half a year. It sounds like ...

... however imperfect the relationship with HRC there's a relationship that exist while with Sanders there's a sense of tone deafness in asking for PoC votes while calling one of the people they love deeply weak.

Weak doesn't sound fair at all