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Dick Morris: FBI Report Will Create Firestorm Against HillaryBreaking News at Newsmax.com http://www.newsmax.com/Newsmax-Tv/dick-morris-FBI-report-create/2016/02/24/id/715971/#ixzz41ZaMFCiV
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With Clinton "increasingly likely to be the Democratic nominee," Attorney General Loretta Lynch will not indict, Morris said Wednesday on "Newsmax Now."
The FBI report, however, will be released to the public, who "will see that she ought to have been indicted," he said. "It's going to create a firestorm akin to the Saturday Night Massacre in Watergate which alluded everybody to the fact that Nixon was not willing to release these tapes, and that led to his ouster from office."
http://www.newsmax.com/Newsmax-Tv/dick-morris-FBI-report-create/2016/02/24/id/715971/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dick_Morris
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)It's actually kinda sad.
NWCorona
(8,541 posts)But there is something to his words but I think that's kinda obvious.
SCantiGOP
(14,720 posts)I have to seriously question the intent of this post. It should be taken down immediately. And I would take the same attitude if it were directed at either candidate.
This is toxic.
NWCorona
(8,541 posts)leveymg
(36,418 posts)The author and the publication both suck.
DrDan
(20,411 posts)louis-t
(24,618 posts)for Hitler, Nazi, JFK conspiracy stuff now that History channel no longer deals with history.
NWCorona
(8,541 posts)History is His-story
razorman
(1,644 posts)Morris knows (or at least, knew) the Clintons well. But, his record of prognostications is not very good. He is the guy that predicted Hillary would never run for the senate.
NWCorona
(8,541 posts)Share a connection to the Clinton's that can't be overlooked.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)That he's being posted here is the surest sign of desperation I've ever seen.
Liberal_Stalwart71
(20,450 posts)many, many years.
Dick Morris needs to go suck on some more toes.
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TheBlackAdder
(29,981 posts)NWCorona
(8,541 posts)But her supporter's will want her to stay in the race IMHO.
Onlooker
(5,636 posts)Not only are quoting Newsmax, but you're quoting the highly ridiculous right-wing operative Dick Morris. No wonder there are so many liberals in minority community and elsewhere that don't trust Sanders. Some of his supporters use Republican talking points, right-wing sources, and are apparently completely insensitive.
Autumn
(48,962 posts)that's gonna leave a mark

Brock destroyed Anita Hill to give us Clarence and Hillary welcomed him with open arms.
Autumn
(48,962 posts)What was done to Anita Hill was disgusting. Forgiveness is all well and good but you don't take a fucking low life piece of shit to your nest.
NWCorona
(8,541 posts)That it was all lies.
senz
(11,945 posts)and then they run for office.
Liberal_Stalwart71
(20,450 posts)I trust Media Matters much more than I do Faux News or Newsmax.
Really, all ya'll have is Newsmax?
Autumn
(48,962 posts)the things he had done were coming out. I don't have Newsmax, I don't read Newsmax. I didn't read the article I commented on a single post in the thread. That's what people do on a message board, they either comment on an OP or respond to a post in a thread.
Liberal_Stalwart71
(20,450 posts)And as I said, I trust the work Media Matters is doing, going after right wing nuttery from Dick Morris and the trash on Faux News and even other news outlets.
And I also like the fact that he and his team have been debunking a lot of crap regarding Barack Obama.
I'm sorry if you prefer to champion wingnut causes just because your candidate is not doing so well.
Again, I think it's most sad.
Autumn
(48,962 posts)I don't care what he does or who he supports. I detest him, and it has not a fucking thing to do with my candidate.
senz
(11,945 posts)gotta love 'em, eh?
Liberal_Stalwart71
(20,450 posts)still_one
(98,883 posts)cause. There are enough legitimate sources where arguments can be made against Hillary. Instead, the OP by choosing to use this right wing rag doesn't seem to realize it is self-defeating.
Autumn
(48,962 posts)myself and toe sucker can eat shit as far as I'm concerned and the same goes for Brock but I'm adult enough to not bother clicking and reading the article past his name even if there were truth in the article. IMO the admins should make up a list of unacceptable sites but in the absence of that I'm just not into griping about sites.
still_one
(98,883 posts)unacceptable sites, though I could see some concerns by some, at the very least they could exclude the obvious right wing links
Autumn
(48,962 posts)acceptable or not. Most people will leave them because Democrats just aren't into censorship but an unacceptable list would sure cut down the hostility about some sites.
pdsimdars
(6,007 posts)Now THAT'S some right wing jujitsu. They always seem to flip thing on their head.
LOOK AT THE POLLS. . . Sanders is the MOST TRUSTED CANDIDATE in the 2016 race and Hillary is among the LEAST. Go do your homework.
still_one
(98,883 posts)garbage which isn't true.
LonePirate
(14,367 posts)Speaking of which, why are we linking to that RW trash site Newsmax?
Snotcicles
(9,089 posts)thereismore
(13,326 posts)WhiteTara
(31,260 posts)spewed that?
randr
(12,648 posts)Still a Dick, right?
nolabels
(13,133 posts)alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)From Newsmax.
A new low.
Losing is hard, but, dang.
So sad.
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)Brock and Morris are both persons I would not trust to water my plants while I went on vacation. Morris does not work for Sanders, he got his position from working with the Clintons.
KingFlorez
(12,689 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)tularetom
(23,664 posts)Dick Morris may actually be right about something.
There will be an FBI report and Lynch will not indict.
Whether it creates a firestorm or not is a bit more iffy. The media will do everything possible to keep a lid on the whole story and there are none more blind than those who will not see.
jeff47
(26,549 posts)First, the FBI report will come out. At the latest, it will be leaked in September. And that leak will say it recommends an indictment...whether or not the official report does.
The media will leap all over this. They love scandals and "scandals". It wasn't Republicans alone that kept Benghazi alive.
TheCowsCameHome
(40,270 posts)she'll be able to defend herself against any accusations or indictments if they are forthcoming.
Plus she has plenty of support here on DU.
KingFlorez
(12,689 posts)If the man who predicted that Romney would get over 300 electoral votes predicts an indictment, there won't be one.
NWCorona
(8,541 posts)I have been following this closely and I can't even say that with certainty.
KingFlorez
(12,689 posts)Clinton will be indicted and Bernie will automatically get the nomination, then go on to win all 50 states.
NWCorona
(8,541 posts)So no need to be childish.
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)NWCorona
(8,541 posts)And that's sad.
speaktruthtopower
(800 posts)so I doubt it will happen unless there is new information or a public outcry.
Hayden was on CNN this weekend saying he wouldn't respect a foreign intelligence agency if they weren't leafing through those e-mails.
To insiders who live in fear of slipping up every day, who have seen careers destroyed for less, this must be powerful stuff, and there is probably deep resentment to the political class being held to a different standard.
If Putin went on TV and started reading the juicy ones, he could probably influence the election. But then he would get a right wing President.
NWCorona
(8,541 posts)There's people who've been hammered for doing far less.
speaktruthtopower
(800 posts)NWCorona
(8,541 posts)But it happens frequently. Even if you look at General Petraeus. If you really look at the case Hillary situation is much worse. Even though others think differently.
speaktruthtopower
(800 posts)Petraeus actually gave it to someone.. and yes he got a slap on the wrist.
She apparently didn't give it to anyone but there was so much of it that was negligently left exposed.
NWCorona
(8,541 posts)"Petraeus actually gave it to someone.. and yes he got a slap on the wrist. "
Actually it was never proven (in court) that he gave his journal to his girlfriend. She had top secret clearance BTW but that would still be bad. He was convicted of mishandling classified information.
Now as to Hillary, it's much worse. Hillary had a server that was wide open with zero encryption for the first 3 months. She also gave/contracted with a server farm to host her server. That company has zero security clearances and aren't authorized to build or maintain DoD approved network devices. Hillary then gave her lawyer the flash drive containing the server data and he wasn't approved for the files and the FBI quickly confiscated that thumb drive.
Again this is much worse than Petraeus's case.
oasis
(53,695 posts)chattering class.
Armstead
(47,803 posts)oasis
(53,695 posts)If so, then what's your point?
Armstead
(47,803 posts)You've been personally conciliatory, which I appreciate.
However, I gotta be honest.
Morris was a GOP before during and after his time with the Clintons. The fact that Bill Clinton used Morris and his advice to drain the Liberal Blood out of the Democratic Party when he was governor and as President perfectly sums up the core problem I have with the Clintons, and the movement they represent.
I remember the churning feelings listening to the message Clinton and Morris crafted in the election against Dole.
Sorry I can't forget that, and I honestly feel like his spirit still lives inside the heart of the Clintons, despite the token trappings.
oasis
(53,695 posts)Hill and Bill have always been surrounded by some of the best minds in American politics. You give Morris too much credit.
Armstead
(47,803 posts)"A friend and advisor to Bill Clinton during his time as Governor of Arkansas, Morris became a political adviser to the White House after Clinton was elected president in 1992. Morris encouraged Clinton to pursue third way policies of triangulation that combined traditional Republican and Democratic proposals, rhetoric, and issues so as to achieve maximum political gain and popularity. He worked as a Republican strategist before joining the Clinton administration, where he helped Clinton recover from the 1994 midterm elections by advising the President to adopt more moderate policies. The president consulted Morris in secret beginning in 1994. Clinton's communications director George Stephanopoulos has said, "Over the course of the first nine months of 1995, no single person had more power over the president." Morris went on to become campaign manager of Bill Clinton's successful 1996 bid for re-election to the office of President. His tenure on that campaign was cut short two months before the election, when it was revealed that he had allowed a prostitute to listen in on conversations with the President."
scscholar
(2,902 posts)about his job then like he is now?
LexVegas
(6,959 posts)He is always looking for a toe to suck.
Nonhlanhla
(2,074 posts)because if Dick Morris says something, the opposite is true.
Godhumor
(6,437 posts)I thought everyone knew to avoid that site.
NWCorona
(8,541 posts)I felt kinda dirty afterwards
Godhumor
(6,437 posts)It is, and I don't their this kind of hyperbole around that much, one of the deepest possible pits of political discussion.
kstewart33
(6,552 posts)Autumn
(48,962 posts)riversedge
(80,814 posts)Armstead
(47,803 posts)riversedge
(80,814 posts)Armstead
(47,803 posts)She's made a few marketing readjustments to the packaging to co-opt and beat back the widespread movement that is driving Bernie, and acknowledge the realities of post-Crash America.
But her overall message is the same as the Clinton's message in the 1990's "Liberalism is a false hope, Democrats cant do much. Don''t try to change anything. Leave the Power Structure alone. We adults know what's best for you."
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)as of 20 minutes ago.
#whichhillary to be sure.
randome
(34,845 posts)I mean, really, they post this kind of bullshit all the time and then whine that they're not being 'courted' properly by the Clinton Camp.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]All things in moderation, including moderation.[/center][/font][hr]
left-of-center2012
(34,195 posts)Dick Morris, that is:
Involved with a hooker,
and had an 'out-of-wedlock-child' with someone else.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dick_Morris#Prostitute_scandal
brooklynite
(96,882 posts)sufrommich
(22,871 posts)Because why not?
Armstead
(47,803 posts)If he's good enough for the Clintons he should be good enough for DU
sufrommich
(22,871 posts)I wish I could say I'm surprised where desperation has led some of DUs Sanders supporters,but I'm not.
Armstead
(47,803 posts)He and the Clintons had a key role in draining Democratic politics of substance.
The fact the Clintons even allowed him in the door says a lot.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dick_Morris
"A friend and advisor to Bill Clinton during his time as Governor of Arkansas, Morris became a political adviser to the White House after Clinton was elected president in 1992. Morris encouraged Clinton to pursue third way policies of triangulation that combined traditional Republican and Democratic proposals, rhetoric, and issues so as to achieve maximum political gain and popularity. He worked as a Republican strategist before joining the Clinton administration, where he helped Clinton recover from the 1994 midterm elections by advising the President to adopt more moderate policies.[7] The president consulted Morris in secret beginning in 1994.[8] Clinton's communications director George Stephanopoulos has said, "Over the course of the first nine months of 1995, no single person had more power over the president."[9] Morris went on to become campaign manager of Bill Clinton's successful 1996 bid for re-election to the office of President. His tenure on that campaign was cut short two months before the election, when it was revealed that he had allowed a prostitute to listen in on conversations with the President."
SwampG8r
(10,287 posts)Oh wait....an hrc supporter.did that already.
Freddie Stubbs
(29,853 posts)Kelvin Mace
(17,469 posts)is NOT helping our cause.
Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)Armstead
(47,803 posts)MrWendel
(1,881 posts)OH! MY! GOD!
zappaman
(20,627 posts)That's the best you got?
tk2kewl
(18,133 posts)A friend and advisor to Bill Clinton during his time as Governor of Arkansas, Morris became a political adviser to the White House after Clinton was elected president in 1992. Morris encouraged Clinton to pursue third way policies of triangulation that combined traditional Republican and Democratic proposals, rhetoric, and issues so as to achieve maximum political gain and popularity. He worked as a Republican strategist before joining the Clinton administration, where he helped Clinton recover from the 1994 midterm elections by advising the President to adopt more moderate policies.[7] The president consulted Morris in secret beginning in 1994.[8] Clinton's communications director George Stephanopoulos has said, "Over the course of the first nine months of 1995, no single person had more power over the president."[9] Morris went on to become campaign manager of Bill Clinton's successful 1996 bid for re-election to the office of President. His tenure on that campaign was cut short two months before the election, when it was revealed that he had allowed a prostitute to listen in on conversations with the President.
JohnnyRingo
(20,872 posts)That 2008 book By Dick Morris is proof that he has his finger squarely on the pulse of American politics. He's a real political prophet.
SDJay
(1,089 posts)to this situation, that means that (a) Hillary will be indicted and (b) it'll have no effect on her campaign in any way whatsoever.
I'm trying to decide who has more of a consistent history of being absolutely wrong about anything he ever said, ever - this clown or Bill Kristol.
kimbutgar
(27,248 posts)Codeine
(25,586 posts)Fuckin' Newsmax.
OilemFirchen
(7,288 posts)It's not even the second.
And that's within the past few months.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(130,538 posts)I'm a Bernie supporter but I'm not going to take anything Dick Morris says seriously. He's disgusting.
demmiblue
(39,720 posts)One side is citing Stormfront-esque sites/weasel boy & his friends at Project Veritas... the other side, NewsMax/The Daily Caller... both sides citing everything between the two.
It is not about shooting the messenger, it is about posting links to reliable, non right-wing sources.
napi21
(45,806 posts)Mittens campaign. Hell, after Dickie, Carl, and the rest of the nuts failed so miserably during that campaign I figured NOBODY would pay any attention to any of them.
Zorra
(27,670 posts)farther than she can spit with a bad case of cotton mouth.
awake
(3,226 posts)Hillary has a big problem that could come back and bit her hard.
demmiblue
(39,720 posts)Tarc
(10,601 posts)- http://thehill.com/opinion/columnists/dick-morris/4714-helping-hillary-now-will-hurt-the-republicans-later
Pirro's campaign flopped after 2 months.
-http://www.rrstar.com/article/20150113/blogs/301139980
No explanation necessary.
Morris says Romney will capture 325 electoral votes while Obama will get 213, a significant difference.
- http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2012/11/05/dick_morris_stands_by_prediction_romney_will_win_325_electoral_votes.html
Obama beat Romney 332-206.
All in all, a Dick Morris endorsement is a political death warrant.
Orsino
(37,428 posts)G_j
(40,569 posts)To hell with Morris and Newsmax. ZERO credibility..
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Bwahahahahaha
MaggieD
(7,393 posts)book_worm
(15,951 posts)NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)PonyUp
(1,680 posts)Beacool
(30,518 posts)Some here got no shame.
On the other hand, everything that Dick Morris says happens in reverse.
PeteSelman
(1,508 posts)Dick Morris? Really? The toe sucking poll adjuster?
Aren't we better than this?
Seriously. It's disgraceful to be posting this crap.
grossproffit
(5,591 posts)leftynyc
(26,060 posts)The smell of desperation of the Bernie supporters is coming right through the screen.
SidDithers
(44,333 posts)Sid
Codeine
(25,586 posts)Pisces
(6,236 posts)He is wrong about everything. The people posting here lately are so bold they don't even bother to hide that they
are Republican trolls.
Gothmog
(179,870 posts)That is so very sad
Blue_Adept
(6,499 posts)I mean, seriously, it's such a minor fetish overall, but people just loooove to pile on about it because of him.
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)Agschmid
(28,749 posts)Wow.
arcane1
(38,613 posts)stonecutter357
(13,045 posts)Liberal_Stalwart71
(20,450 posts)desperation going on....
It's sad.
still_one
(98,883 posts)sources so there is no ambiguity where you are coming from
bluestateguy
(44,173 posts)because he has a track record of making wrong predictions 99% of the time.
And why you approvingly posted a link from Newsmax is beyond me.
Politicalboi
(15,189 posts)I think she will get indicted over her e-mail server.
asuhornets
(2,427 posts)DrDan
(20,411 posts)NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)MineralMan
(151,269 posts)Why post anything from such a right-wing source? Newsmax is among the most unreliable source of information you can find anywhere on the Internet. I'd be embarrassed to use it as a link in any post.
Beacool
(30,518 posts)Is nothing too low on this site to be used against Hillary?
Where the hell am I, on Free Republic????
Le Taz Hot
(22,271 posts)Really?
McCamy Taylor
(19,240 posts)grossproffit
(5,591 posts)Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)grasswire
(50,130 posts)If Lynch refuses to indict, then Comey will have to resign. It's going to be incendiary.
HereSince1628
(36,063 posts)Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)If I want shrimpy's opinion on something, I'll ask.