"Why is the DNC trying to screw over Bernie Sanders?"

[hifiguy]

A question asked of me yesterday by my oldest friend, who lives in So Cal.

He's never been registered with either party but pays attention to the news, especially during presidential years. He likes a lot of Bernie's message; his wife does, too. He has no time for Her Majesty and would never vote for her.

The only thing I could tell him was that the the DINOs and other swillers at the corporate trough have the fix in for Herself, regardless of the consequences in November - which will be disastrous - that nothing else matters to them except continuing to get theirs by any means possible.

IOW it's all about the too-corrupt-to-describe haves and the sell-outs continuing to lne their pockets, starting with the Clintons. Party and country be damned. And the peasantry can just STFU and be happy Goldman still lets them have some crumbs. For now, anyway.

[NWCorona]

1. Because he's not a democrat

And really didn't think he would get this far.

[hifiguy]

4. I laugh in your general direction.

Heartily.

[NWCorona]

5. Care to explain?

[Bubzer]

72. If he's not a Democrat, She's not a Democrat either.

Actions matter more than words. By actions, she is GOP light... he's a full on liberal.

[Cal33]

101. He is more of an FDR New Deal Democrat than most DNC members, and they don't like that.

[senz]

100. LOL!

Cute, hifiguy.

[Live and Learn]

6. Except he is, so that meme is simply false. Try again:

[NWCorona]

9. How is he a democrat?

I'm a die hard Bernie supporter but I can see the chess move he made.

[Live and Learn]

14. He registered as one. How does anyone become a Democrat? nt

[NWCorona]

19. He registered only to run on the Democratic ticket.

And I agree with that move. Bernie knows that the game is rigged to shut out 3 party runs.

[Live and Learn]

20. Dos it matter why someone registers? No, the fact is once you do, you are a Democrat. nt

[dchill]

138. Yep.

[Dragonfli]

67. Hillary registered as a Democrat years ago for tactical purposes, her views are those of

a moderate Republican. There were advantages for her to do so at the time, I assume the same of Bill as well. They both agree with each and every Republican fiscal goal, Bill has even proven himself the best Republican President of our modern age by signing Republican born bills into law that other Republicans had failed to. He did a great job of rolling back Democratic FDR gains like no other Republican, including the regulations that kept us safe from Wall Street for 50 years as well as destroying welfare. He also expanded the Republican "war on some drugs" aimed at "certain darker citizens" that Reagan began, far more than even Reagan could have dreamed. He also managed to help his wealthy sponsors by signing NAFTA that destroyed jobs here in order to increase profits for the corporations by allowing them to use cheap labor elsewhere, undermining our own workforce.

By Registering as a Democrat, Bill was able to double the amount of impoverished in this country with the stroke of a pen, he also managed to more than double the non-violent population in incarceration, While taking the safeguards off our banks allowing them to plunder at will culminating in what we are now calling "the great recession."

Before working towards a Republican fiscal agenda he worked with other Republicans registered as Democrats for tactical reasons (using Koch and other corporate and banker funding) to help with his wife Hillary (both co-founders) in forming the DLC in order that other moderate Republicans had a ready home and financial banking from the financial elite within our party, which over time made it a Democratic party that was at best a hybrid Republican/Democratic NEW party, or as the like to call it the "New Democrat movement" (they choose to leave out the ic at the end of Democrat in all there institutions such as The New Democrat coalition etc. So don't blame me for the Republican description of "Democratic", they call themselves and their movement that, not I.)
READ ALL ABOUT IT HERE

In conclusion, we are told to call people what they Register as, so Bernie Sanders is equally a Democrat as is Hillary Clinton Joe Lieberman and Bill Clinton.

My Conclusion:

A Republican Registering as a Democrat in order to damage the legacy of the Democratic party and do everything possible to disrupt weaken and destroy the New Deal, Great Society, and Civil Rights. Is a tactical move I find appalling.

An FDR Democrat registering as an Independent for a time, because the party change to "New Democrat" and then for tactical reasons Registered as a Democrat to bring back the old Democratic party, is a tactic I can respect and even agree with!

[NWCorona]

76. And I agree with your conclusion whole heartedly

Unfortunately the question wasn't why did or should Bernie be allowed to be a democrat, and he definitely has that right. The question was why is Bernie being treated the way he is by the DNC? And I answered it with a video from Clinton herself. I can find some of Debbie, Bill too.

[pangaia]

99. You know what is really frightening?

Why should ANYBODY even HAVE to post what you just did?

Good work !!!

[Dragonfli]

111. It is frightening, I find it so hard to believe that so many are blind to what is in front of them

Everything I posted (sans my own personal conclusion, which I happen to believe is trut) is 100% true and well know to those that follow and have followed politics.

Perhaps it is the Pravda style media that is to blame or maybe, people don't want to see the truth, but here it is, they way it is.

I have to post the obvious because even the obvious has been so thoroughly lost to most eyes.

[haikugal]

118. They know, they're mouth pieces....or paid trolls. In my view. They know and don't care. nt

[Proud Liberal Dem]

129. She voted around 90% the same as Bernie in the Senate

So, is she an FDR Democrat (like Bernie) or is Bernie ALSO a "moderate Republican"?

[Dragonfli]

132. 90% on things such as naming stuff or things not related to war and fiscal Conservatism

Yes, I am well aware.

If you want to understand rather than cheer with talking points (that you must admit you know nothing about, come on cite those votes, you can't can you?)

Take a close look at the 10%
I didn't say she was a Republican, I said she was a moderate Republican (they no longer exist but pre-1980 they would likely have voted even closer to Sanders than Hillary did in her rather short time as a carpetbagger in MY state in the senate.) They were very different in that they were fiscally Conservative but socially liberal or reasonably so just as they are now since they became the right wing of our party when the Republicans went crazy and started electing only lunatics.

It is a shame you know so little about politics over the past 40 years as do some, it puts you at a disadvantage forcing you to rely on meaningless, or at times deceitful, talking points provided to you and your peers by such people as David Brock the Great Anita Hill feminist.

[disillusioned73]

139. Dragonfli..

u on fire..

[JimDandy]

131. Marvelous explanation Dragonfli!

[hifiguy]

15. Look at his policy positions.

Every one is a traditional Democratic plank. At least they were from FDR until the Clintons came along. That makes him a Democrat in my book.

[NWCorona]

17. Agreed! But that's not the point I'm making.

[Maedhros]

41. The point you're making is that inconsequential trivia should be considered important.

Not a great point.

If you want to make the point that the DNC is beholden to the same entrenched corporate interests that handle Hillary's puppet strings, and therefore attack Sanders because he refuses to have the strings attached, then I'm there with you.

[NWCorona]

43. It seems that your reply to me is inconsequential

I answered a question and stand by it.

[Maedhros]

44. Are you saying that Bernie deserves to have the DNC at odds with his campaign? [n/t]

[NWCorona]

45. No I'm not at all saying that. The rules are clear and Bernie followed them

That doesn't change the nature of the question tho.

[NRaleighLiberal]

58. ah. authoritarian.

[NWCorona]

60. Me? Hardly

I just like the rules to stay in place once the game starts.

[Maedhros]

66. Your point is not clear, and you seem pretty combative in responding to criticism

of its lack of clarity.

I don't think I need to read any more of your posts.

[NWCorona]

73. That's fine. I think I have been in fact very respectfully of others opinions

[pdsimdars]

93. The term you guys are looking for

to describe these responses is "smug pr*ck". or something like that.

[Maedhros]

107. More like "Ignore List". [n/t]

[kristopher]

98. Your point is clear - everyone is telling you why you are wrong.

And they are telling you are wrong because you are wrong. (HT to Organism)

[fredamae]

31. He holds the Same Values The Dem Party

Used to believe in and work for. Sanders represents the Dem Wing of the Dem Party. I don't personally-gara what political party he aligns with-thats superficial and holds no relevance, imo. Many current people/politicians who call themselves Dems - Vote With and Frequently Support GOP policies (Iraq War/Pat Act/Austerity/Perm Tax Cuts for Wealthy etc, etc, etc).......It's about Bernies life work, Long standing in Fighting For people and his policies.

People who criticize and demean the Dem Wing base for wanting to Increase the quality of Life for Millions and Millions of people, really don't represent Dem values, imo-They actually represent the Billionaire Class et al.
But, this is merely my opinion.

[NWCorona]

32. Agreed! I only answered the op question

[fredamae]

33. No worries....n/t :)

[pdsimdars]

90. A thing of beauty

And very creative, not to mention spot on. thanks

[frazzled]

22. If he's not a Democrat, then he's fortunate the Democrats graciously

let him run in their primary, gave him access to all their voter data, participate in all Democratic debates, and appear on their ticket. It seems to me the DNC has been exceptionally generous to someone who "is not a Democrat."

I think the real issue here is the voters. It's about the people, remember? The people will decide.

[NWCorona]

23. But the rub

Is that the DNC is now saying that Bernie isn't a true democrat. The Clinton's are saying the same thing now that he's a threat.

[frazzled]

24. Where did they say that?

Links to an official DNC statement, please.

[NWCorona]

25. It's on YouTube have a look.

[frazzled]

26. ?

[NWCorona]

27. Google is a wonderful tool!

[senz]

104. Mighty low.

So glad I'm a Bernie supporter.

[hifiguy]

105. There is literally nothing to which the Corporate DINOs

will not sink. As long is the $$$$ keep rolling in.

[NWCorona]

28. I'll wait for your response.

[hifiguy]

37. Don't hold your breath.

- crickets -

[NWCorona]

40. Yeah I'm use to it lol

I usually don't say anything unless I can back it up.

[LuvLoogie]

38. She said he wasn't a Democrat until he decided to run for President.

Even Bernie will tell you that is true because it is. There's a big difference between checking a box after the fact and being elected to your office as a Democrat. By the time a Democrat becomes a Senator, they usually start out as state legislators, and before that foot soldiers.

Bernie had never done THAT as a Democrat, and that is why he is likely to come up short in the DEMOCRATIC primary.

[NWCorona]

39. And how is that different than the point I'm making?

[LuvLoogie]

46. There is a difference between a citizen who votes as a Democrat

and one who would be the Democratic nominee for President. Both are Democrats. The expectations for each differ within the party. Hillary has laid the groundwork for a national campaign for the Democratic nomination. Barrack Obama laid the groundwork for the Democratic nomination.

Bernie did not. So, yes he is an outsider and a Bernie come lately--but that's on him and his choices throughout his political career.

He isn't getting screwed over. He woke up sometime in April of last year and decided to run for President after chillin' in Vermont for the last 35 years or so. That's just physics man.

[NWCorona]

47. Sorry but that's not physics if you want we can talk about that all day

What you are talking about is semantics and opinion.

[LuvLoogie]

51. Well it's physics because you can't make up

for lost time and distance. Hillary has been in more places, met more people and made more connections--physics.

[NWCorona]

59. Time in physics is a fundamental quantity that can't be lost

It's purely a measurement.

[LuvLoogie]

64. Fine. There is not enough time between now and November to

To cover the same distance and develop the same number of relationships that Hillary has traveled and connected. All that work is paying off for Hillary now.

It might gave been paying off for Bernie, too, had he done the work. Some thing about tilling the soil, planting theseed and tending the crop--before the harvest.

[NWCorona]

70. Lol

First to assume that Bernie had the same footing as Hillary you'd be wrong and that's really the point of why he's running.

[LuvLoogie]

75. She chose her ground and built her road with help from a huge network she (and Bill) cultivated.

They navigated Washington politics, they didn't create it.

[NWCorona]

78. Agreed and I'm not bashing her for that.

IMHO we need to change direction from that kind of revolving door politics.

I'm not a Clinton hater and have no problems giving her props when do.

[geardaddy]

80. Yet he stumped for Jesse Jackson, a Democrat

And was endorsed by Dean, Obama, and Schumer when he ran for Senate.

[LuvLoogie]

97. Jesse is more of a Democratic activist, not a politician or an elected representative.

I don't recall if Jesse had or has ever run for other offices.

I do know Bernie ran against the Democratic Governor of Vermont.

Yes, Bernie has received endorsements and other support from Democrats, but he has never been of them. Often times his rhetoric has kept Democrats at arms length.

He has never been completely embrased by the Democratic Party because he has never embraced the Democratic Party. He listed as Independant up until 10 months ago.

[snort]

57. How do we know that you are a Democrat?

Is it just because you say so? Because that's actually how it works. Say "I'm a Democrat". Then register as a Democrat and then vote and yep, that makes a person a Democrat. Or, register as a Democrat and then run for office, as a Democrat. This is what Bernie did. It's what you or I can do as well. Republicans too. Neat, huh?

[NWCorona]

61. The difference is that I don’t hold an elected office so the unknown is there.

So do you think Hillary's views are on this. Did you see the video I posted?

[MgtPA]

77. If Bernie is not a Democrat, then neither was FDR.

[NWCorona]

86. I want Bernie to emulate FDR in a big way

Look at the 1910 election and the effect on the Tammy machine. This was in the Senate

[Art_from_Ark]

102. OK, what was the earth-shattering effect of the 1910 election

on the "Tammy" (I assume you mean "Tammany&quot machine?

[NWCorona]

106. Yes I have a new phone and the auto correct is driving me crazy.

I should proofread before hitting submit lol! I'm always in a rush

[NWCorona]

112. Oh,it wasn't earth shattering

I brought the 1910 up because FDR had little chance and was more of a novelty but it laid the path forward.

[Art_from_Ark]

114. OK, I'm reading you a little clearer now

"On March 31, 1911, after a three-month-long deadlock in the New York State Legislature, (James) O'Gorman was elected as a Democrat to serve in the U.S. Senate.[3] Tammany boss Charles Francis Murphy wanted his upstate ally William F. Sheehan to be elected, but a faction of the Democratic Party, led by State Senator Franklin D. Roosevelt, blocked Sheehan's election. After 62 ballots in 73 days, and three dozens of names voted for, they compromised on Justice O'Gorman. He served a single term until March 4, 1917.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Aloysius_O'Gorman

[NWCorona]

116. Thanks!

I need to work on being more clear 😀

[lame54]

83. neither of those are good excuses...

but thanks for confirming that they are indeed screwing him over

[TryLogic]

84. He is way BETTER than most Democratic politicians.

[Jester Messiah]

85. Labels are for suckers. n/t

[NWCorona]

88. Indeed!

[Live and Learn]

2. Simple, they have been bought and paid for too. nt

[elleng]

3. Control.

They'd likely have none over him, but 'share' it with hrc. 'Get theirs by any means possible' is a good way to put it.

[Svafa]

12. +1

[demwing]

7. I can think of two reasons

This:

Or maybe this:

[sufrommich]

8. .......

[That Guy 888]

91. Gosh,it's hard to believe so Sanders aren't cozying up Clinton

when you put it like that.

[vi5]

10. If Hillary gets the nomination I won't be able to stomach the...

pathetic calls for unity and "Lets hear it for Bernie Sanders and his supporters!".

And I don't even consider myself a Sanders supporter beyond just him being the only alternative to Hillary.

This whole thing really is the saddest state of affairs I can imagine for my party of 35 years. Not Bernie losing but a candidate like Hillary winning and the way she's done it.

I'll spout the cliche. "I haven't left the party, the party has left me."

[WillyT]

18. My Stomach's Already In Knots, And It's Only February...

[Paper Roses]

69. Ditto! n/t

[NowSam]

29. Same here. n.t.

[nxylas]

62. I think I'd prefer calls for unity to what we'll actually get

Which is gloating, ROFL smilies, and reminders that if we end up with President Trump, it'll be all our fault.

[hifiguy]

103. When she goes down in flames, in a Goldwater/McGovern style blowout,

the Left and Bernie supporters will be blamed, and then all pretense of anything the party ever once stood for will be abandoned when the billionaires to which the party was crookedly sold by the Clintons and their greedy, self-serving ilk winch the party into full-on Raygun minus the jeebus.

There will be blood, but it won't be the Wall Streeters' blood.

[msongs]

11. you should present your evidence that this in fact true. nt

[hifiguy]

13. Three words:

Derpy Wasserman-Schulz. Case closed.

[UglyGreed]

16. He's not a Democrat

it's true, it's true - Hillary Clinton NV town hall.

[Gregorian]

21. They're at the top of the political ponzi pyramid.

Don't rock the boat.

Tim Canova is going to compete with DWS' seat, and he's having a horrible time. They won't communicate, he can't get media coverage.

It's all coming out into the light now. It has been a real revelation for me.

So we have a movement now. We can slowly start to reassemble the broken parts of the party. That's the first iteration that I can see.

[MisterP]

50. political sweatshop

[GoneFishin]

30. Yep. They've got theirs and screw the little people. "Poor people don't have $2700 to give us so why

should we give a shit what happens to them after we trick them into voting against their own interests."

[Armstead]

34. Because he's not a member of The Club

He's too normal and fraternizes with the little people, instead of having cocktails with the bigwigs and lobbyists.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

35. It was decided years ago that Herself was going to be president.

Why else would someone from Arkansas run for an open Senate seat for New York as soon as that seat became available? That was in 2000, as Bill's term as president was about to expire. So, with absolutely no previous relationship whatsoever with the state of New York but with lots and lots of connections and party support, she wins that election. But why New York? one might ask. Why not run for Senate for the state you lived in for years? Because Arkansas is Nowheresville, that's why; Little Rock does not have a Wall Street. Goldman Sachs is in New York. Money is in New York. Connections and political power are in New York, not Arkansas.

OK, then, the new Senator from New York starts collecting favors and sucking up to Wall Street and getting to be BFFs with the likes of Lloyd Blankfein (and Donald Trump). Eight years later everybody is sick of W and the Dems have a very good chance of returning to the White House - and Herself is ready.

But that well-funded juggernaut hit a pothole in '08 when Obama, who was almost as unexpected as the Spanish Inquisition, won the nomination despite a heinously dishonest and racist campaign on the part of Herself, aided and abetted by Himself, who evidently wanted, and still wants, to take up residence in the White House again almost as much as she does. Or maybe more. But she refused to cede the nomination to Obama until the last minute because "something might happen" before the convention, you saw what happened to RFK, after all, so Obama cuts a deal and she gets to be SoS. But she leaves that position after Obama's first term because you can't really charge Goldman Sachs $250K per speech while you're still a cabinet secretary, can you?

And here we are, eight years after the last nomination fight, and it's the same old, same old, for the Dem establishment. Or maybe worse. Bernie isn't the equivalent of Obama; he's lots scarier as far as the DNC and DWS are concerned. That's why the establishment thumb is pressing so hard on the scale this time. They knew Obama wouldn't derail the gravy train but they figure Bernie will at least try - and they will do whatever they can to prevent that from happening.

I think she will get the nomination by hook or by crook and that depresses me a great deal.

[hifiguy]

36. Excellent anlysis, TVO.

And I agree with every word.

My considered opinion is that the Clintons - all of them - are the most successful and sophisticted grifters this country has ever seen. As a teenager I watched the election, ascent and fall of Richard Nixon. Hunter Thompson's coverage of Watergate marked my political coming of age. I am getting powerful flashbacks to those times.

And I honestly never thought the day would come when I could truthfully and accurately unfavorably compare any Democratic candidate to Richard Nixon. The Clintons' sleaziness would leave even Nixon jealous and vaguely aghast.

[Jester Messiah]

89. And therefore she must not be allowed to win. n/t

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

92. She should not be allowed to win - but not because she's been

maneuvering for it for the last 16 years. She shouldn't win because she represents the entrenched interests of the 1% and Wall Street, and not those of the rest of us.

[Art_from_Ark]

124. I've got to disagree with some of your analysis

Arkansas in 2000 was not "Nowheresville". It was actually home to the one of the largest investment firms outside of the Northeast (Stephens, Inc), the country's wealthiest family, as well as the world's largest retailer (Walmart). The newly-opened airport at Fayetteville-Bentonville was offering non-stop flights to many major US cities (not just local hubs). And Arkansas had also just had two outstanding Democratic Senators (Dale Bumpers and David Pryor, who had both recently retired).

But in 2000, there was no US Senate election in the state, and for the 2002 election, the son of the Democrat who had occupied the seat (Mark Pryor; father David Pryor had held the seat from 1979 until he retired in 1997) was in all likelihood being groomed to challenge the Republican incumbent, Tim Hutchinson. It would have been poetic justice, actually, if Hillary had challenged and defeated Hutchinson, as Hutchinson had helped to lead the impeachment charge against Bill (and was later found to have had an affair himself). But I do believe the state establishment wanted the son to regain the father's seat. And it wouldn't have mattered what state Hillary was representing-- she would have automatically stood out because she was the wife of the outgoing President.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

125. True, but it couldn't compete with Wall Street.

Every state has its plutocrats and wealthy corporations, but New York has everybody beat in that regard. If you are the Senator from New York you have a better chance of taking advantage of those Wall Street connections than the Senator from Arkansas for the simple reason that Goldman Sachs and the other banksters are your constituents. So if you play their game they'll give you lots and lots of money.

[Art_from_Ark]

128. That's true, but

At the same time, even as Senator from Arkansas, Hillary wouldn't have been relatively unknown outside of her own state, like Blanche Lincoln was. She still would have been able to take advantage of the Wall Street contacts that she and Bill had made during her Rose Law Firm and their White House days. Of course, constant catering to Wall Street as a Senator from Arkansas wouldn't have played too well with the folks back home. But the point is moot anyway, because there wouldn't have been any Senate openings for her in Arkansas, since Pryor Jr. was likely already being groomed to run for Pryor Sr.'s old seat in '02, and the Senate election after that ('04) would have an incumbent Democrat, and a female one at that (Blanche Lincoln), so that would have been off-limits, too.

[geardaddy]

130. This should be its own OP.

[Raster]

135. Well said!

Excellent summation!

[amborin]

42. this sums it up; a sad commentary on the state of our democracy

and our electorate

[whatchamacallit]

48. Because he's doing better than they anticipated

He was supposed to go out with a whimper and let the coronation proceed apace.

[jalan48]

49. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

[hifiguy]

52. They do lurrve that sweet, delicious corporate cash, don't they.

They will do anything to keep getting that fix.

Junkies have more class and dignity.

[Art_from_Ark]

137. "That's what I want..."

[Matariki]

53. Because DWS was Hillary Clinton's campaign manager last time around

And she's using her position to get Clinton elected. Seems obvious.

[libdem4life]

54. The fact that the entire Democratic party was awaiting the Coronation kept well-qualified

Democrats OUT. That plus the DNC had victory assured HRH.

Then, a Dark Horse FDR Democratic Socialist was forced to join the D Party to run because of our silly dyadic rules. He'd have been shut down months earlier had he been a "real" Democrat. He wasn't a fan of Oligarchy...which is necessary within the Party.

The Democratic Party basically created their own "Frankenstein". I find it amusing.

[Half-Century Man]

55. Easy answer; for money

Continuation of wall street financing

[stupidicus]

56. he's the monkey wrench in their faltering machine

the respite they had after the Bush selection offered no solutions for the inevitable questions that would predictably arise after all the failures of the first Clinton admin -- welfare/criminal justice reform/etc -- became apparent. And in some respects it actually made things worse, given that the rising inequality under the dem watch as well continued unabated and is now a big issue as well.

Bernie has placed their 3rdway ways under indictment, which has served as a predictable clarion call that threatens to upset their little applecart...

[SoapBox]

63. Exactly.

The Elites haven't been able to hide in the shadows any longer.

They came rushing out in panic, to support the Entrenched Establishment, with the likes of the Annointed One.

The blatant and bias is a real eye opener for millions of us.

Seems there isn't much Democratic about todays DNC.

[Enthusiast]

65. Kicked and recommended! This primary race has really put things into perspective for us.

Regardless of the outcome I will never feel the same about various office holders and candidates.

[ChiciB1]

68. As Weird As It May Sound Our VERY OWN DEMOCRATIC

Party made the decision even BEFORE anyone else decided to run against her. I remember over a year ago that so many here were complaining that they wanted someone to run against her. Now that she has someone, many of those who wanted her to have an opponent have "decided" that he's NOT a Democrat even though he's ALWAYS caucused with them. AND IN FACT, what he proposes for our country are much more like The Democratic Party that so many, many of us who have been life long Democrats have ALWAYS stood for!

You can do some research on a man named Al From and his relationship with the Clintons! They came together way back in the early 90's to form the DLC, a conservative leaning Democratic Party that's now morphed into the The Third Way! Even though most here have always complained about how much to the right the Party lurched, they seem to have decided it's quite OKAY to have MORE OF THE SAME!

I scratch my head daily because she has a very "right leaning" history that has done so much to destroy what was once a BIG TENT Democratic Party!

PLUS, those who once fought for "we the people" as opposed to MONEY & GREED have become very comfortable with the way things are and have formed THE CLINTON MACHINE to STOP Bernie no matter what damage it does for "we the people!"

It's very sad, but pretty UN-DEMOCRATIC IMO!

[NorthCarolina]

71. Because Bernie is the champion of their enemies.

Bernies idea of what values constitute a civilized society cannot be given breathing room at any cost. They're bad for 'business'.

[hifiguy]

79. Love that balloon-pop graphic in your sigline!

And yes, he is.

[alfredo]

74. The candidate that brings in money for the party, gets support from the party.

Compare the two candidates to see who is sharing, and who is not.

[AgerolanAmerican]

81. which brings us full circle

to the fact that that money is coming from the large corporate sector, the same ones that have bought out the entire political system.

Are we OK with the party machinery being purchased outright by Goldman Sachs, Eli Lilly, etc.?

[alfredo]

96. I saw the same activity on the local level.

The party isn't helping you out of the kindness of their heart. If Bernie isn't giving much to the party, he won't get much support. I don't know if that is the case.

His recent conversion to the party might gall those who have been in the trenches for decades.

Party politics sucks.

Our primary is mid May. The game will be over by then, so I am not declaring now. I will support the eventual candidate, no matter what.

[Tarc]

82. It isn't the DNC's fault that the voters are rejecting Sanders at the ballot box

[TryLogic]

94. Voters can be manipulated like wet mud -- by the marketing tactics of the big corporations.

Voters vote against even their own best interests. Voters vote for people like Trump and Cruz, and Reagan. The DNC is all in with the manipulation.

[pdsimdars]

87. Because they don't own him like they do the Clintons

He's not for sale and has a 50 record to prove it.

[fbc]

95. You are right. They are all corrupt and it's about keeping the money flowing.

[senz]

108. Take back the Democratic Party for the people!

And kick the Third-Wayers out.

[MaggieD]

109. What horrible thing is the DNC doing to Bernie?

Do tell. Because all I see is most voters don't support him. Not the DNC's fault that Bernie is so out of step with the average Dem voter.

[hifiguy]

115. Three Words:

Derpy Wasserman-Schultz.

The list runs to reams, but you know that.

[MaggieD]

117. What is she supposedly doing to him?

Too hard to face the fact that voters just don't support Bernie? Sounds like you're just trying to blame somebody else for his failure.

[hifiguy]

119. i don't argue with Fan Clubbers.

Welcome to my ignore list.

[MaggieD]

121. LOL - she ain't doing nothing to him

He's not winning because the voters don't agree with his extremism. Stop blaming everybody else.

[Ford_Prefect]

110. The simple truth is that Hillary is a Neo-Liberal just like Debbie is.

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She has read the tea leaves and made her calculations about just how many progressive remarks she needs to make to fool Democratic voters just one more time. David Brock is helping by running the rat-fucking campaign and has lots of help from the campaign insiders left over from 2008.

As to why they are doing it? The answer is plainly written on the list of Wall Street, Big Pharma, and MIC Donors. They believe that power belongs to those willing to do what it takes to claim it, and in their book that means running the traditional Democrats out of the party. According to their calculations they do not need us except when the national office is voted. Therefore they do not need to agree with anyone they don't really like since Democrats of all incomes, colors, creeds, lifestyles, loves, and cultures, will always vote to keep the GOP out of the White House. In short they feel they own the Party because they were willing to take it over by any means necessary.

We have had that debate in North Carolina for the last 4 presidential cycles. It gets uglier every time we have it and I have seen life long peace loving Democrats ready to pound their Neo-Liberal neighbors into the 18th green (where many feel they belong) over Neo-lib trads-offs like Environment vs jobs, Peace vs war Technology, sustainable economy versus affordable healthcare. I cannot put into civilized language what I'd say about it. I saw my pension, 2 careers, and many friends destroyed by the arrogance of Neo-Liberal hubris. In my view if you cannot support the New Deal and the Great Society programs without trading them away to benefit your 1% friends you are not a Democrat. I can think of many words for what you are in that case but none of them belong here.

[hifiguy]

113. Very well said, sir.

They root for the laundry and could care less about the policies. Which tells me that they have no worries about the everyday issues of life.

Neoliberal "plutocrats first" economics combined with a belligerent, imperialistic, neo-con war-first foreign policy.

Nothing "Democratic" about a single part of it.

#BankLivesMatter

[moondust]

120. The Matrix is threatened.

They've spent years decades investing in HRH and stand to lose their ROI if some uppity intruder gets in the way.

But you knew that...

[AgingAmerican]

122. He threatens the corporate goose that lays the golden eggs

[hifiguy]

123. He already has the ax sharpened and ready to go.

[Depaysement]

126. Because he's a real democrat nt

[redstateblues]

127. Bernie and his campaign use victimhood and anger

to attract a segment of the electorate that resonates with those negative emotions.

[riversedge]

133. Yes. they do.

[Logical]

134. So true! nt

[Octafish]

136. The wealthy fear having to part with some of their lucre.

Like Wright said Steinbeck said:

“Socialism never took root in America because the poor see themselves not as an exploited proletariat but as temporarily embarrassed millionaires.”